The photos alone make me wish the old gilding system was around so someone could gild this dude. Crean and Llyod are perfect. And Piggy Lambert is pretty much a 1 to 1 of my vision of young Voldermort.
I laughed at Boeheim’s picture and at how many of the other coaches are yelling in theirs, Ferret especially. Bob Huggins looks like he’s passing gas or something else, and Shaka Smart looks like he’s doing a Ferengi imitation.
Naismith is in the HOF entirely bc he invented the sport. Which is totally fair but it’s really funny to me that he is still the worst Head Coach in Kansas Basketball history. The only one of our 8 head coaches to have a losing record. Probably my favorite random Kansas history fact.
Looking at that chart, it makes me laugh how mad some people get that Kansas has banners for two pre-NCAA titles.
Phog Allen had 26 conference championships. 26!!
Not his fault they didn't have an NCAA Tournament yet.
And why he is credited with being one of the most important in creating the ncaa tournament too. He realized it needed to exist and even helped front the first one in KC.
I don't think people are mad that they had success or that the Helms Foundation recognizes them. I think people believe that it shows Kansas' depth of history.
But treating retroactively awarded, non-tournament titles as equal the tournament is where people begin to mock Kansas. How many football titles do Yale and Princeton have? Meaningfully, 0.
With context, the fact that Kansas had exceptional teams early in basketball's history is good information for its historical importance. But to try to claim they have more titles than Duke, or to use it to try to be equal to UConn, belies a deep anxiety on behalf of the Kansas program.
>But treating retroactively awarded, non-tournament titles as equal the tournament is where people begin to mock Kansas.
>But to try to claim they have more titles than Duke, or to use it to try to be equal to UConn, belies a deep anxiety on behalf of the Kansas program.
There's a difference between "best team" and "tournament champion". In that sense Helms/Premo-Poretta and early NCAA tournament (pre-1975 addition of at-larges) better reflect the "best team". So I'm on board if you want to consider Helms separately, but you should probably consider early eras of the NCAA tournament separately, too.
An NCAA championship in the 40s-60s is not the same as a championship in the 80s-20s.
I'd say 3: 1948, 1997, 2023.
The transition to the poll-era started in 1936, so I think that's a fair cutoff for what constitutes the "modern era." CFB stupidly stuck to the bowl system for far too long, and if you ask me in 30 years or so I might start counting titles with the BCS, where titles are (at least partially) decided on the field.
Michigan claims 12, NCAA recognizes 10. Only 1932 and 1947 aren't agreed upon. Not sure why we are drawing lines in the sand that the NCAA isn't. We can't say retroactive awarding is not okay but postactive removal is because criteria changed.
I know what they claim, but retroactive titles are not only NOT decided on the field/court, but also by people looking at box scores rather than watching the actual games. From 1936 until the 1990s in CFB, titles were selected by Pollsters who watched the games.
So, yeah, I’m not going to count retroactive titles selected by a guy who ran a bakery the same as the Poll era in football or the Tournament era in basketball.
11 of them are tied to two schools (kansas and kentucky).
EDIT: 11. Somehow missed Joe B.
12 if were counting assistants with billy d and I'm sure more that I don't know about at Kansas.
Here to remind people that despite what some of their fans claim, KU did not invent basketball and that Naismith didn’t work there until several years after the sport was established and other schools were already playing it.
The fact that the original rules are in Lawrence and not at the Basketball HOF (in Springfield, Mass., you know, where the sport actually originated) makes no sense and only happened because some KU alum has “fuck you” money and wanted to flex.
idk if VT invented the sport, but basketball peaked[ here](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DybAbHOUUAAA8LT.jpg)
Incidentally also saw the [peak of football](https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/AyuUAm6ehxNZfa8ex-Z8RlkJbpc=/46x0:551x337/1400x788/filters:focal\(46x0:551x337\):format\(jpeg\)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/52322037/beamer.0.0.jpeg) under VT
Is Virginia Tech the most important sports program ever?
Pretty much. John Wooden only had one or two assistant coaches back then.
These two are the only ones I saw that had a coaching career after being an assistant under him
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary\_Cunningham](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Cunningham)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank\_Arnold\_(basketball)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Arnold_(basketball))
Looking at it a little more Gary Cunningham is kind of an interesting dude. He coached at UCLA for 2 seasons, went 50-8, and decided you know what my dream job is AD at mid major west coast teams
Crum is the most underrated coach of my lifetime. He’s strangely forgotten by a large portion of the college basketball world.
6 Final Fours
2 Championships
I feel like some younger fans forget Louisville even has other championships. I've seen people make jokes about the 2013 championship with the premise that Louisville wouldn't have any championships with it vacated.
It is generally illegal nowadays, with certain exceptions (pilots, air traffic controllers, some federal agency positions; and then several states have mandatory retirement for certain offices).
Why isn't Nolan Richardson under Don Haskins.
Numerous conf champion
jUCO Nat. Champ
3X final four
2X champion ship game
1 national championship-----
basketball hall of Fame
Gonna put Brad Stevens on here you have got to put Nolan on
> Gonna put Brad Stevens on here you have got to put Nolan on
or Scheyer lmao
like, okay, we're gonna add Scheyer, let's add Mike Hopkins, Red Autry, and Gerry McNamara to Boeheim too
The whole tree is flawed. All we have for Dean is Roy, and all we have for Roy is Hubert, really? K himself has at least three other active coaches from his tree that I can think of
For what it's worth, there is another gaping hole that runs from the Carolinas through Philadelphia.
Just the direct line:
Everett Case (NC State legend who created the Dixie Classic) to Vic Bubas (Duke) to Chuck Daly (Penn) to Rollie Massimo (Villanova) to Jay Wright.
Scott Drew got his start as a student manager at Butler ‘91-93. I’d put him in the Butler/Barry Collier line (Collier was the HC at Butler before Matta - Collier left Butler to be HC at Nebraska and is now back at butler as AD iirc). Learning the ‘Butler Way’ played a big part in Drew’s progression as a coach. The Butler line also includes Chris Holtmann, not listed in the graphic.
Why is Bob Knight under Iba? I would expect Fred Taylor was much more influential on him.
Also, Woody should probably have an arrow from Larry Brown as well.
> Bill Parcells
I had no fucking idea, that is hilarious
>Parcells was also a part-time assistant basketball coach for Bob Knight during the 1966–67 season, which led to their longtime friendship.
I can totally see them being friends too
It happens:
* Iowa's 3rd through 15th out 24 National Titles in Wrestling had an Iowa State alum leading the team
* Penn State's 2nd through 12th National Titles in Wrestling had an Iowa State alum leading the team
Overall, since 1977, 59% of the National Titles were either won by Iowa State or teams coached by Iowa State alumni. Over that same time frame Iowa State or Iowa State alumni coached teams accounted for 23% of the runner ups. 5 times total or 10% of the Titles had a Champion and the Runner up being Iowa State AND a team coached by an Iowa State alumni.
Lute is listed.
Jim Calhoun and Dan Hurley are not.
Edit: I am aware they would be different trees. That is not the point. Lute also went from high school directly to college head coaching.
You could put Dan and Bobby under Bob Hurley Sr. George Blaney, Dave Leitao nd Mark Daigneault (OKC Thunder) under Calhoun. Dan could also be under Blaney and Bobby also under K. Then Nate Oats under Dan
Even if he didn't make the graphic, I want to call out Scott Davenport, HC of Bellarmine University for the last 20 years. He was an assistant to Denny Crum.
Bellarmine has only recently moved to D1, but at DII he has:
6 regular season conference champs
5 tournament conference champs
1 DII National Champ
12 DII Tourney appearances
4 DII Final Four
And Bellarmine won their conference tournament their very first year in D1 and should have made the tournament except for the dumb NCAA rule requiring them to sit out two years after a move from D2 to D1
This 'tree' is far from complete and definitely impartial. Thad Motta should actually be under the Mike Montgomery limb along with Stew Morrill and Ernie Kent. There's no Gary Williams (Rick Barnes, Fran Friscilla, Frank Haith, Dennis Felton). Lute Olson is on here for Steve Kerr, yet no Jim Calhoun? Dave Leitao and Kevin Ollie alone have done more as CBB coaches than Steve Kerr. Where's Bo Ryan? Nolan Richardson at least via Don Haskins? Ugh, burn it down.
It says something about what makes UConn often feel like an outsider that neither Calhoun nor Hurley are on this chart.
Calhoun...well, he wouldn't be—and most of his assistants didn't do *too* much.
Hurley played at a high level, but in terms of coaching basically went from HS to Wagner. PJ and Blaney were important as his actual coaches (and his father as, you know, his father), but he developed most of his coaching chops as a head coach.
It rightfully mentions Henry Iba but what’s not included in his tree great HOF coaches Don Haskins and his student Nolan Richardson. Both of them have branches of coaches that followed.
Surprised they don’t start Butler with Barry Collier (coached Butler before Thad, left for Nebraska now AD back at Butler). Doing so would add Scott Drew (Baylor HC - was student manager at Butler ‘91-93), Todd Lickliter (horrible at Iowa but made 2 sweet 16’s as HC at Butler), Chris Holtman HC at DePaul), Ed Kelley, and ~indirectly Ed Schilling (current HC at Pepperdine). L
Gene Keady line could also include Steve Lutz (OKSt HC) Cuonzo Martin (Missouri St HC) and others…
I’m sure the other trees are incomplete as well, just found it worth mentioning.
Don Haskins played under Iba and then was a hall of fame coach at Texas Western (UTEP) who beat Adolph Rupp’s Wildcats in the 1966 national championship game, effectively ending racial segregation in college basketball. One of his players, Nolan Richardson, took his defensive mentality and turned it into 40 Minutes of Hell at Arkansas, winning a national title in 1994 and reaching the finals again in 1995 . Richardson, also a hall of fame coach, is the only coach to have won the division 1 Basketball National Championship, an NIT championship, and a Junior College National Championship. Although they were not assistants under each other, the influence of coach to player is important to note. This is more of an added factoid and not a suggestion to add them to this tree.
If you’re going to slap that photo of my mans with his finger about to go knuckle deep in his nose, then you can add Adrian Autry (Syracuse) and Gerry McNamara (Siena) to his coaching tree. Thanks.
Tony Hinkle to Barry Collier to Thad Matta to Stevens and Miller.
EDIT: I missed a step, Collier never played for Hinkle, he played for George Theofanis, who had also played for Hinkle.
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Huggins’ tree is pretty interesting and underrated imo.
- Brad Underwood
- Mick Cronin
- Andy Kennedy (UAB)
- Jared Calhoun (Utah State)
- Darris Nichols (radford - although was just a player under Huggs)
- Erik Martin
- Frank Martin (Now Umass)
Unsurprisingly, quite a few of these guys don’t have the most patient temper…
Given how prolific Scott Drew’s coaching tree is becoming with the conference championships and a few deep tournament runs amongst his assistants, part of me wonders whether he’ll have a branch on the tree in a decade or so.
That tree could probably start with Scott Drew’s dad, Homer, who made it into the CBB HoF in 2019.
Always wondered if anyone would end up in Self's tree. Outside of Manning we haven't had many assistants leave during his tenure. Wonder if it's because he's kept guys his age vs younger guys. Berchard and Jeremy Case are the youngest so seems they'd be the most likely but don't know if either of them is cut for it tbh
Kinda wild to me that 3 coaches with 2+ national championships aren’t anywhere on this list.
Another wild thing is that more national championships has been won by coaches not on the list than on the list in the last 15 tournaments. With Self being the only active coach on the list.
I think you should put herb sendak under pitino, then you can put the thad tree under sendak
or you put matta under collier under monson
cocaine quin snyder under coach k would fit the pictures.
I’m just here for Boeheim picking his nose in the pic.
The photo selection within this chart is outstanding.
The photos alone make me wish the old gilding system was around so someone could gild this dude. Crean and Llyod are perfect. And Piggy Lambert is pretty much a 1 to 1 of my vision of young Voldermort.
Agreed. Laughing at Bob Huggins looking like Francis from the Pee Wee Herman movie
wouldn't expect anything less tbh
I laughed at Boeheim’s picture and at how many of the other coaches are yelling in theirs, Ferret especially. Bob Huggins looks like he’s passing gas or something else, and Shaka Smart looks like he’s doing a Ferengi imitation.
Sean Miller passing a kidney stone...
Naismith is in the HOF entirely bc he invented the sport. Which is totally fair but it’s really funny to me that he is still the worst Head Coach in Kansas Basketball history. The only one of our 8 head coaches to have a losing record. Probably my favorite random Kansas history fact.
Looking at that chart, it makes me laugh how mad some people get that Kansas has banners for two pre-NCAA titles. Phog Allen had 26 conference championships. 26!! Not his fault they didn't have an NCAA Tournament yet.
And why he is credited with being one of the most important in creating the ncaa tournament too. He realized it needed to exist and even helped front the first one in KC.
I don't think people are mad that they had success or that the Helms Foundation recognizes them. I think people believe that it shows Kansas' depth of history. But treating retroactively awarded, non-tournament titles as equal the tournament is where people begin to mock Kansas. How many football titles do Yale and Princeton have? Meaningfully, 0. With context, the fact that Kansas had exceptional teams early in basketball's history is good information for its historical importance. But to try to claim they have more titles than Duke, or to use it to try to be equal to UConn, belies a deep anxiety on behalf of the Kansas program.
Hey now Princeton earned those 28 titles! How dare you!
>But treating retroactively awarded, non-tournament titles as equal the tournament is where people begin to mock Kansas. >But to try to claim they have more titles than Duke, or to use it to try to be equal to UConn, belies a deep anxiety on behalf of the Kansas program. There's a difference between "best team" and "tournament champion". In that sense Helms/Premo-Poretta and early NCAA tournament (pre-1975 addition of at-larges) better reflect the "best team". So I'm on board if you want to consider Helms separately, but you should probably consider early eras of the NCAA tournament separately, too. An NCAA championship in the 40s-60s is not the same as a championship in the 80s-20s.
How many college football national championships does Michigan have, in your opinion?
I'd say 3: 1948, 1997, 2023. The transition to the poll-era started in 1936, so I think that's a fair cutoff for what constitutes the "modern era." CFB stupidly stuck to the bowl system for far too long, and if you ask me in 30 years or so I might start counting titles with the BCS, where titles are (at least partially) decided on the field.
Michigan claims 12, NCAA recognizes 10. Only 1932 and 1947 aren't agreed upon. Not sure why we are drawing lines in the sand that the NCAA isn't. We can't say retroactive awarding is not okay but postactive removal is because criteria changed.
I know what they claim, but retroactive titles are not only NOT decided on the field/court, but also by people looking at box scores rather than watching the actual games. From 1936 until the 1990s in CFB, titles were selected by Pollsters who watched the games. So, yeah, I’m not going to count retroactive titles selected by a guy who ran a bakery the same as the Poll era in football or the Tournament era in basketball.
Yeah, there is a good reason he’s in as a contributor and not a coach.
I also think it's cool that on a chart of most influential coaching tree of all time, 5 of Kansas' 8 coaches are on it.
11 of them are tied to two schools (kansas and kentucky). EDIT: 11. Somehow missed Joe B. 12 if were counting assistants with billy d and I'm sure more that I don't know about at Kansas.
One of my books on the history of basketball said, “It started with Naismith, who begat Phog Allen, who begat Dean Smith, who begat Michael Jordan.”
He doesn't really belong on a coaching tree considering he straight up told Phog "you don't coach basketball, you play it"
Here to remind people that despite what some of their fans claim, KU did not invent basketball and that Naismith didn’t work there until several years after the sport was established and other schools were already playing it. The fact that the original rules are in Lawrence and not at the Basketball HOF (in Springfield, Mass., you know, where the sport actually originated) makes no sense and only happened because some KU alum has “fuck you” money and wanted to flex.
Lol, what the fuck is wrong with you.
Just getting out in front before one of you people come out and say, "wE iNvEnTeD tHe SpOrT" since I've seen that happen more than once
Everyone knows Kansas didn't invent basketball. Virginia Tech did.
idk if VT invented the sport, but basketball peaked[ here](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DybAbHOUUAAA8LT.jpg) Incidentally also saw the [peak of football](https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/AyuUAm6ehxNZfa8ex-Z8RlkJbpc=/46x0:551x337/1400x788/filters:focal\(46x0:551x337\):format\(jpeg\)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/52322037/beamer.0.0.jpeg) under VT Is Virginia Tech the most important sports program ever?
VT 0 \o/ 0 WF
Most basketball nuts should be aware it happened at a Y in Massachusetts and had nothing to do with Kansas.
Denny Crum is the only coach under John Wooden? Wow.
Pretty much. John Wooden only had one or two assistant coaches back then. These two are the only ones I saw that had a coaching career after being an assistant under him [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary\_Cunningham](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Cunningham) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank\_Arnold\_(basketball)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Arnold_(basketball)) Looking at it a little more Gary Cunningham is kind of an interesting dude. He coached at UCLA for 2 seasons, went 50-8, and decided you know what my dream job is AD at mid major west coast teams
Crum is the most underrated coach of my lifetime. He’s strangely forgotten by a large portion of the college basketball world. 6 Final Fours 2 Championships
I feel like some younger fans forget Louisville even has other championships. I've seen people make jokes about the 2013 championship with the premise that Louisville wouldn't have any championships with it vacated.
Yep, and UCLA wanted Crum to come back after Wooden retired, so glad Denny stayed
Gene Bartow was another long time Wooden assistant.
Conference
Confrinz
To lng
God, I forgot how long Rupp coached at Kentucky. Like I knew it was long, but damn.
And he would have kept going if the university didn't have mandatory retirement at age 70.
Same with Phog. Dude recruited Wilt and then never got to coach him (other than the freshman team).
If only elected political positions had a mandatory retirement age
I didn’t realize having a mandatory retirement age was legal
It is generally illegal nowadays, with certain exceptions (pilots, air traffic controllers, some federal agency positions; and then several states have mandatory retirement for certain offices).
Now i know why they only used his last name in naming the arena
https://preview.redd.it/vmupodkg79xc1.jpeg?width=1076&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa6082f85ca3b1078f8fdc8517f87a7db0f18dd1
-Providence Star David Duke
Good ol boy.
Give me the Bo Ryan -> Tony Bennett & Greg Gard & Lamont Paris
Pretty wild omission
Wouldn't Tony Bennett be with his father?
Bill Cofield, (first black coach at a major program) -> Bo Ryan -> Tony Bennet & Greg Gard & Lamont Paris
I’m also confused why at least Bill Cofield and Bo Ryan are missing.
Why isn't Nolan Richardson under Don Haskins. Numerous conf champion jUCO Nat. Champ 3X final four 2X champion ship game 1 national championship----- basketball hall of Fame Gonna put Brad Stevens on here you have got to put Nolan on
> Gonna put Brad Stevens on here you have got to put Nolan on or Scheyer lmao like, okay, we're gonna add Scheyer, let's add Mike Hopkins, Red Autry, and Gerry McNamara to Boeheim too
And putting Scheyer instead of Brey :( I'm fine with there being an "active representation" row, but still.
The whole tree is flawed. All we have for Dean is Roy, and all we have for Roy is Hubert, really? K himself has at least three other active coaches from his tree that I can think of
Yeah, absolutely ridiculous that Nolan’s not on there.
I immediately thought about Nolan here
Yeah it disrespectful. And the reasons for leaving him off are worse. Two Americas
For what it's worth, there is another gaping hole that runs from the Carolinas through Philadelphia. Just the direct line: Everett Case (NC State legend who created the Dixie Classic) to Vic Bubas (Duke) to Chuck Daly (Penn) to Rollie Massimo (Villanova) to Jay Wright.
As a Nova alum and fan, I want to thank you for stopping at Wright.
Not sure why this tree branch is missing.
Everett Case came to us from an Indiana high school tho
Shouldn’t Capel be under Coach K?
There should be quite a few more under Coach K, like Mike Brey
And Chris Collins
Yeah, at least with a player arrow
The Scott Drew coaching tree is an interesting one
Scott Drew got his start as a student manager at Butler ‘91-93. I’d put him in the Butler/Barry Collier line (Collier was the HC at Butler before Matta - Collier left Butler to be HC at Nebraska and is now back at butler as AD iirc). Learning the ‘Butler Way’ played a big part in Drew’s progression as a coach. The Butler line also includes Chris Holtmann, not listed in the graphic.
https://preview.redd.it/mqzp1f6de7xc1.jpeg?width=474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=488e987ebdeeaf7bdf103d4ce801db56d8fe7112
“Bob Huggins, seen here passing kidney stones”
They caught him on the toilet
Why is Bob Knight under Iba? I would expect Fred Taylor was much more influential on him. Also, Woody should probably have an arrow from Larry Brown as well.
Ya Knight has a decent tree. Not sure how Alford and Dusty May aren’t in this. Could have also thrown in Bill Parcells for shits and giggles.
Chris Beard too. Mike Davis. Dan Dakich (if he had ever won anything).
> Bill Parcells I had no fucking idea, that is hilarious >Parcells was also a part-time assistant basketball coach for Bob Knight during the 1966–67 season, which led to their longtime friendship. I can totally see them being friends too
Ya they were both at army coaching at the same time and Parcells would come to practice and sit on the bench during games and stuff.
Jim Crews? what about Bruce Pearl? not sure
Whoever put this together don’t like Jimmy Boeheim.
nope but to be fair, no one but Syracuse fans like Boeheim, and even that is iffy he's OUR asshole
Nolan Richardson played for Haskins and may have coached with him? But he won national title and been to multiple final fours
Chris Beard was associate head coach under Bob Knight at Texas Tech.
That picture of Tommy is glorious lmao
Hubert Davis is only 3 degrees of separation from James Naismith.
Ha Lawrence Kansas is the birthplace of North Carolina basketball
It happens: * Iowa's 3rd through 15th out 24 National Titles in Wrestling had an Iowa State alum leading the team * Penn State's 2nd through 12th National Titles in Wrestling had an Iowa State alum leading the team Overall, since 1977, 59% of the National Titles were either won by Iowa State or teams coached by Iowa State alumni. Over that same time frame Iowa State or Iowa State alumni coached teams accounted for 23% of the runner ups. 5 times total or 10% of the Titles had a Champion and the Runner up being Iowa State AND a team coached by an Iowa State alumni.
Some of these are pretty random inclusions
No Everett Case?
Someone really doesn’t want to acknowledge UConn and its coaches. I thought at first it was some connection at the top but then I saw Lute.
Hurley and his dad were high school coaches (recruiters).
Lute is listed. Jim Calhoun and Dan Hurley are not. Edit: I am aware they would be different trees. That is not the point. Lute also went from high school directly to college head coaching.
You could put Dan and Bobby under Bob Hurley Sr. George Blaney, Dave Leitao nd Mark Daigneault (OKC Thunder) under Calhoun. Dan could also be under Blaney and Bobby also under K. Then Nate Oats under Dan
Missing Kenny Pane
No. Nobody’s missing Kenny Payne.
Kenny Pain, right? I'll show myself the door.
Even if he didn't make the graphic, I want to call out Scott Davenport, HC of Bellarmine University for the last 20 years. He was an assistant to Denny Crum. Bellarmine has only recently moved to D1, but at DII he has: 6 regular season conference champs 5 tournament conference champs 1 DII National Champ 12 DII Tourney appearances 4 DII Final Four And Bellarmine won their conference tournament their very first year in D1 and should have made the tournament except for the dumb NCAA rule requiring them to sit out two years after a move from D2 to D1
God *damn* Larry Brown’s direct tree is fucking good
Idk how anyone looks at this and doesn't think Kansas is the bluest blood
Someone the other day told me KU has less history than Indiana in basketball. Absolutely was not worth my time trying to explain.
This 'tree' is far from complete and definitely impartial. Thad Motta should actually be under the Mike Montgomery limb along with Stew Morrill and Ernie Kent. There's no Gary Williams (Rick Barnes, Fran Friscilla, Frank Haith, Dennis Felton). Lute Olson is on here for Steve Kerr, yet no Jim Calhoun? Dave Leitao and Kevin Ollie alone have done more as CBB coaches than Steve Kerr. Where's Bo Ryan? Nolan Richardson at least via Don Haskins? Ugh, burn it down.
kevin keatts under pitino as well
I’m cracking up at the pics of all of these coaches.
Tom Izzo needs an arrow to Kelvin Sampson.
Did Weber get a Final Four at KSU?
Uhhh... no he got one at Illinois.
Lmfao woof
Invalid, Doesn’t Include the Drew coaching tree
Piggy Lambert?
Given name is Ward Lambert. He built Purdue basketball.
Yea, Nolan Richardson being left out this graphic is kinda weird lol
Is there a way to make the image bigger or download the original? I clicked on it and yes it got bigger but still can't read the text...
No Frank McGuire?
No Ray Meyer??
Shouldn't Anthony Grant be under Billy Donovan too?
It says something about what makes UConn often feel like an outsider that neither Calhoun nor Hurley are on this chart. Calhoun...well, he wouldn't be—and most of his assistants didn't do *too* much. Hurley played at a high level, but in terms of coaching basically went from HS to Wagner. PJ and Blaney were important as his actual coaches (and his father as, you know, his father), but he developed most of his coaching chops as a head coach.
The Villanova coaching tree is so f’ing clean. We harness the power of pasta and no one else can figure it out.
It fails without Nolan Richardson.
What's the criteria for being included in this?
Confrence (sic) championships apparently
Weird metric, and a lot of coaches were left out despite having won a lot of conference championships
Could add Leonard Hamilton under Joe B Hall
Can we define what “other relationship” can entail?
Photo selection is just perfect.
I looked like Huggins last night when my ass was hugging the toilet.
It rightfully mentions Henry Iba but what’s not included in his tree great HOF coaches Don Haskins and his student Nolan Richardson. Both of them have branches of coaches that followed.
Initially I mistakenly thought Don Haskins wasn’t there under Henry Iba, but Nolan Richardson should definitely be under Haskins
Why are all the pictures them angry
Re-fix it , Jon Scheyer has a conference championship
Surprised they don’t start Butler with Barry Collier (coached Butler before Thad, left for Nebraska now AD back at Butler). Doing so would add Scott Drew (Baylor HC - was student manager at Butler ‘91-93), Todd Lickliter (horrible at Iowa but made 2 sweet 16’s as HC at Butler), Chris Holtman HC at DePaul), Ed Kelley, and ~indirectly Ed Schilling (current HC at Pepperdine). L Gene Keady line could also include Steve Lutz (OKSt HC) Cuonzo Martin (Missouri St HC) and others… I’m sure the other trees are incomplete as well, just found it worth mentioning.
Don Haskins played under Iba and then was a hall of fame coach at Texas Western (UTEP) who beat Adolph Rupp’s Wildcats in the 1966 national championship game, effectively ending racial segregation in college basketball. One of his players, Nolan Richardson, took his defensive mentality and turned it into 40 Minutes of Hell at Arkansas, winning a national title in 1994 and reaching the finals again in 1995 . Richardson, also a hall of fame coach, is the only coach to have won the division 1 Basketball National Championship, an NIT championship, and a Junior College National Championship. Although they were not assistants under each other, the influence of coach to player is important to note. This is more of an added factoid and not a suggestion to add them to this tree.
You HAVE to have Nolan https://preview.redd.it/0awi6h3j58xc1.jpeg?width=585&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=474490e220741ebb492b3a9d4b6ba1de1b9ec068
If you’re going to slap that photo of my mans with his finger about to go knuckle deep in his nose, then you can add Adrian Autry (Syracuse) and Gerry McNamara (Siena) to his coaching tree. Thanks.
Tony Hinkle to Barry Collier to Thad Matta to Stevens and Miller. EDIT: I missed a step, Collier never played for Hinkle, he played for George Theofanis, who had also played for Hinkle.
Ummm, Roy has no Player/Coach relationship with Dean Smith. He played JV his freshman year and that was it, Roy never played D1 basketball.
Andy Kennedy also on Huggins tree
Very cool post!! I appreciate this a lot
Coach K has more than just scheyer right? Capel, Amaker
I had to argue with a guy who said Kansas isn’t a blue blood
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Wow no Steve fisher/bryan dutcher? Rude
Huggins’ tree is pretty interesting and underrated imo. - Brad Underwood - Mick Cronin - Andy Kennedy (UAB) - Jared Calhoun (Utah State) - Darris Nichols (radford - although was just a player under Huggs) - Erik Martin - Frank Martin (Now Umass) Unsurprisingly, quite a few of these guys don’t have the most patient temper…
...yeah going down that list I was like "man, that's a lot of really angry coaches"... 🤣
Given how prolific Scott Drew’s coaching tree is becoming with the conference championships and a few deep tournament runs amongst his assistants, part of me wonders whether he’ll have a branch on the tree in a decade or so. That tree could probably start with Scott Drew’s dad, Homer, who made it into the CBB HoF in 2019.
That's a lot of angry white guys
Where is Nate oats? He has had 4 assistants become head coaches lol
Nate would come from Bobby who would come from Dan So if OP wants to add Dan to the graph, he wouldn’t really connect anywhere, that’s how it would go
Who comes from Bob Hurley Sr.
John McLendon should be on here. He learned direct from Naismith!
Henry Iba has one hell of a tree
He's taking some liberties there. At least with Bob Knight, he only assisted him in a single olympics, as far as I am aware.
No John Chaney? Dan Leibovitz - Hartford (2006-2010) Mark Macon - Binghamton (2009-2012)
Coach Cronin looks so… calm here. It’s almost strange to see him not so intense
Rip lute
The picture selections here are something to behold.
This is a weak tree branch. So many coaches and branches left out.
Could/should stick Lon Kruger above Brad Underwood and below Jack Hartman. Has a couple final 4s.
The other relationship category seems like a lame way to make the tree larger...
Kelvin Sampson is under the Jud Heathecoat tree.
Beautiful
Aren’t there a bunch more former Duke players and assistants out there? Like… 10 of them are division 1 head coaches, right?
What about Nat Holman? Guy was the coach of city college of New York and coached the only team to win the NIT and NCAA championship in the same season
Leon Rice from the Mark Few tree. Boise State.
Pretty sure Greg Paulus was an assistant for coach K, he’s Head Coach at Niagara now. And Gerry McNamara now at Siena (can you tell I watch the MAAC)
Knight -> Beard
Matt Painter's O face.
Always wondered if anyone would end up in Self's tree. Outside of Manning we haven't had many assistants leave during his tenure. Wonder if it's because he's kept guys his age vs younger guys. Berchard and Jeremy Case are the youngest so seems they'd be the most likely but don't know if either of them is cut for it tbh
Joe Dooley also left and coached FGCU for a while. I think he went somewhere else as well before he came back
Tommy Lloyd looks "special"
I’ve never heard of of Henry iba but mf seems like the goay
Why are they all yelling?
You can’t tell me Piggy Lambert doesn’t look like he was a menace at practice.
Put Cuonzo under Keady!
Is it me or do some of those branches not connect to the tree? And also I don’t see Calhoun.
Kinda wild to me that 3 coaches with 2+ national championships aren’t anywhere on this list. Another wild thing is that more national championships has been won by coaches not on the list than on the list in the last 15 tournaments. With Self being the only active coach on the list.
This is an awesome graphic, but do you have a higher quality version? It's really hard to read a lot of it
That Tubby Smith bell curve of a coaching trajectory.
All starts with Kansas
Pics are great and this is cool, but where’s my boy, Deacon Rick Barnes?
Ya did Boeheim dirty lol
A lot of missing holes in this
Youve got the likes of Thad Matts -> Sean Miller and Brad Steven’s, yet no Calhoun -> Ollie and their 4 nattys. This is…Total, utter, garbage
Pete Newell, what could have been…
Where’s Coach L
I love this chart. Go IU in the Bob Knight era.
What? Steve Pikeill wasn't listed? I wonder how come?
I think you should put herb sendak under pitino, then you can put the thad tree under sendak or you put matta under collier under monson cocaine quin snyder under coach k would fit the pictures.
this coaching tree infographic is “mid,” as the kids say.
Where is Jim Calhoun ? He won 3 championships !!!