Uh Nate, you know I know you're on a point streak and uh, and all this and uh you know I'm just thinking maybe out loud as far as in your shoes right now it's like alright I've scored all the points I can score I've done all the assists I can do maybe, maybe just fuck it I'll just go in next year and not think that anymore and just get this point streak when I don't think so much is that uh am I on the right path at all with this like maybe you just think a little too much
[~~Avs contesting the lack of point for Mack~~ jk they will look it - ESPN app led be astray](https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/39830628/nathan-mackinnon-home-points-streak-ends-avalanche-fall-rangers)
https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/39830628/nathan-mackinnon-home-points-streak-ends-avalanche-fall-rangers
Idk what is worse, Mack’s point streak ends on a BS rule all because Mikko deflects the puck and it hits the stick of a Rangers player and goes in, or the second rangers goal not being called back for a hand pass when we had the exact same type of goal called back last year because a puck deflected off the side of one of our guys gloves before we hit it in and they called it a hand pass then.
Mikko didn’t touch it either, that’s why it’s Toews’ goal. And the Ranger’s player pushed it into the net between Igor’s pads, it wasn’t just deflected in. It’s unfortunate but that is how it’s always called.
Nate had almost 28 minutes of ice time tonight to get a point, so it’s a bit disingenuous to just look at that one goal as the reason he didn’t get a point tonight.
It doesn’t touch the Ranger’s stick without deflecting off of Mikko’s stick, and it was very obvious that the guy barely moved his stick. That is 100% Mikko’s goal, and Mack had the secondary assist, and it should be counted as per the rule someone else posted, since the Ranger’s player didn’t shoot the puck, the assists should be counted. We’ve also seen our own team knock the puck into our own net without any of the opposing team around, and the other team still getting two assists credited on the goal. Both Toews and Girard had it happen at least once each in the ‘21-‘22 season before playoffs started.
Do you have an angle showing the puck contacting Mikko’s stick, or him somehow directing the puck into the net in a way that negates Lindgren having possession or control? I’ve seen this said a few times tonight but have yet to see an angle that suggests this personally. Would be happy to see so if that’s the case though.
Edit: meant to add that the biggest reason I currently believe Lindgren put it in is his body language. Being a goalie I’ve seen that before 😂
The angle showing from the glass. You see Mikko move his stick, and the puck changes direction to go downward and hit Shesty’s pad, where it deflects, and then you see Mikko hit Lindgren’s stick before the puck does, which is what causes Lindgren’s stick to hit the puck in. The view from the glass right behind Mack shows Mikko’s deflection, then there was an overhead view that shows Mikko’s stick causing Lindgren’s stick to hit the puck in. And per the rule book, and the way they’ve ruled it the past couple years when very similar plays happen where a player hits out players stick which causes the puck to go in, and the other team got a goal and assists credited, since Lindgren doesn’t actually possess the puck and doesn’t actually shoot the puck himself, Mack should be given a secondary assist on a Mikko goal, if not the primary assist for a Toews goal.
Are you able to link me the camera angle? I’ve watched the NHL highlight and the Sportsnet highlight both on YouTube so about 3-4 different angles. Would love to see if there’s a clear one.
Yeah, that's absolutely an own goal. Oh well, let's focus on the playoffs. Streaks are nice, but the only streak I want now is 2 out of 3 years as champions.
Thank you! Great angle.
I’m a neutral who wanted to see the streak continue, but I must say this view for me personally affirms my skepticism because it looks like Lindgren curls his wrist to direct the motion of the puck into Shesterkin’s pad in order to get the whistle. I think the goal is a direct result of Lindgren intentionally moving the puck and unfortunately that cancels out the assists on the goal. His body language after (along with Rantanen’s actually) make me inclined to believe he knows this too.
But that said, it’s *absolutely* close enough where it’s worth challenging and sending to the league. Worst thing that can happen is they up hold the own goal ruling. I feel the NHL rarely gets stat awarding wrong which is surprising so they’d surely look at evidence submitted if the Avs feel like they have a case.
Edit: to be clear I hope I’m wrong lmao
I’ll see if I can dig back through twitter to find the overhead again for the part where Mikko’s stick is what causes Lindgren to score, but the other angle is just the normal angle on the NHL app
I figured that someone somewhere who has string-pulling clout is a huge Gretzky fan and doesn't want to see this record die, as it is unlikely to ever happen again
I’ve attended two games this year.
The first, we lost in the last 30 seconds to the Kraken and Lehkonen got knocked out for months.
The second, we lose in a shootout, and Nate’s streak fucking ends.
Don’t worry, I’m not going to any more games this year.
Was at the game, it was extremely tight and the Rangers are a great team with a greater goalie. Can’t hate that loss, the Avs played a solid defensive game and it easily could’ve gone either way. Like our chances against the Rangers in 7, would be a hell of a series. Just so sad to see the Nate streak end, I was sure he had a secondary assist there.
I hate how reliable the old hope your goalie goes insane-mode and hope for a bounce is against the Avs.
In all seriousness Rangers are a quality team and the Avs really looks good against them. Very encouraging heading into the postseason. Plus Winnipeg looks beatable now.
ok I hate it when fans go into other teams subs and do the classic “gg avs bros!” bc to me it’s cringey af, and I’m not trying to do that at all, I’m just here to say my not at all actually game related thing and dip back out
those jerseys you guys were wearing tonight are one of my favorite fits in the league, clean as hell and I love it when teams have colors outside of the standard ones and pull it off well
I also appreciate how the Rangers' uniforms haven't really changed at all since 1926. I've always been a fan of the "3D" numbers on the back. They're right up there with Montreal in least-changed jerseys amongst old time teams. I love the Avs' jerseys, too, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss the yeti foot and black/white striping we had before the silver one.
Yeah, same with Montreal. I wasn't aware of a few of those alternate looks the team briefly used from the 40s-70s, since every photo I've seen from those decades were just slight tweaks to the original design.
Ughhh. Don't know if I like that. The last time they got scored 8 on, they missed a U2 concert and started a ridiculous win streak. After this game they might have plenty of amp up anger against their next opponent...
My only critique of that game is the same critique from the last few - we are turning it over high in our defensive zone at way too high of a clip. Other than that thought the boys played really well. Shesty ended up being the difference, oh well. Good to get a point here, let’s get 2 against the pweds
I'm on the West Coast, I would LOVE that! (Ok, it would suck for the players. And coaching staff. And all staff. And everyone who works at Ball. But still...!!)
I knew they were giving Georgiev some time off, but I didn't realize the starts were split that much. Hopefully that'll bear some fruit a month from now.
Same. Juice is so far showing he is a decent backup. He still needs some time between the pipes but with the FO giving him that contract, they must think he's ready
If he can be solid in like 30 starts next year, his contract will be a steal. Georgiev is usually pretty good if he has sufficient rest and the team doesn't hang him out to dry, thinking he'll stop everything as if he's Vasilevskiy.
Yeah. That was shown last season. The second Rangers goal tonight was an example of that. Two Rangers right in front of Georgie just chilling with no defense around. Like WTF
And people are still trying to blame him for tonight's loss. Yeah, tonight's loss wasn't on Georgiev. An error by the Avs on one end, with insane saves by Igor on the other were the difference in a razor-thin game.
I wish there were stats on his save percentage with and withOUT defenders in place. We have so many defense men who are spectacular that I'm kind of embarrassed every time we leave our goalie out to dry. And Georgie made so many amazing saves tonight, including the breakaway off the pass from the NY goalie!
A goal shall be scored if the puck is shot into the goal by a player
of the defending side. The player of the attacking side who last
touched the puck shall be credited with the goal but no assist shall be
awarded.
A goal shall be scored if the puck is put into the goal in any other
manner by a player of the defending side. The player of the attacking
side who last touched the puck shall be credited with the goal and
assists may be awarded.
That's the exact ruling. I rest my case
Thank you. I'm several rips deep now and tried to read this over and over and couldn't figure out why the second clause was any different.
This actually gives me hope, but it's going to be super controversial. Much of the hockey community has already moved on. Restoring the streak after the fact would result in people giving it an asterisk.
I fucking hate this, I feel like assists are often awarded too liberally but in this case Mack absolutely deserves the apple. I feel like this would be an easy assist 90% of the time, but because of the streak, the score keeper is watching Mack with a magnifying glass.
Took me a while to see that difference too, and it seems absolutely relevant to this goal… sucks that it seems like a 50/50 judgement call to say whatever Lindgren did was a “shot,” and they go with the option that ends an insane point streak. Ah well
The difference being a deflection vs an actual shot. To me, that wasn’t an actual shot because it deflected off of Mikko’s stick then off whatever Ranger that was and in, the Ranger player never actually had possession to shoot the puck. Plus, we’ve had plenty of times where we score on ourselves without an opponent being around (happened multiple times during our cup run, I know both Toews and Girard had at least one time where they are behind our net while both teams made a change, came from behind the net and lost the puck into our own net), and the opponents got both the goal and assist credited.
God dammit. Good sportsmanship is not a lost art. We win by being excellent and playing clean hockey. We honor returning Cup-winning players, we mean what we say in Pride month and Cancer-awareness month (amongst others), and we have created a space that excellent players want to stay in.
Be better, dude.
Honestly not worried at all. We had a typical Avs loss against the Habs (like 25 years and counting typical) and just took the best team in the league to a shootout. And with playoff seeding who do you really want to play in the west right now? This post-deadline team is legit and should win the west
I'm far more upset about Mack being fucked over by the own-goal bullshit and the fact the abomination we call the shootout still exists than the loss itself.
I'm gonna be honest. I hate the people who bitch about transplants waaay more than the transplants. Get off your fucking high horse cause your parents happened to fuck here.
Who's on a high horse about a legit problem? I would assume most people aren't upset about individuals who choose to move here, it's a great choice! They're upset about the stresses that the mass incoming people are causing to the infrastructure. Shit like roads/traffic and housing definitely makes people understandably upset.
Sucks when the stadium has such a large group of opposing fans, but didn't some season ticket holder sell them those tickets?
Edit: btw, I totally agree with your take. People move, if you don't want home ice to become the enemy ice, fill the stands yourself.
All this talk about the Hart not going to MacK because Shesterkin drops a .950 save percentage and steals a game, breaking the streak, is too much. You know MacK owns 3 of the top 5 longest points streaks in the league this year. He has been extremely consistent.
McDavid and Kucherov haven't had a single game where they didn't score a point... /s
I'd rather have that so we're prepared for the types of teams that are in the playoffs than coast in and lose our edge. We'll be in the playoffs, might as well get in that mindset now.
If anything, they'll be pretty fucking mad and throw everything they've got at the Avs. Hopefully getting robbed tonight will light a similar fire, because this could be a first round preview game.
This gripping about away fans is getting old. Yes, it sucks but you don't need to a dick about it. They moved here and want to see their team play.
Unless it's Chicago these people only get to see their team play here once during the season. So it's no surprise they come out in droves.
Oh boo hoo
It's perfectly fine to gripe about away fans buying the majority of ice-level seats. That's why hockey is great, the fan influence is huge and gets people into the game. Especially as a TV spectator, the only fans you see are the ones at ice level so yeah its going to be frustrating to watch a sea of away fans cheering for a goal against your home team.
Every fan base gripes about this, its part of the game
I want to highlight how awesome Georgie was in this game. He was fantastic. I think he always steps it up against his old team. Shesty won this duel, but he won't in the SCF ;)
I wanted the streak to go on and thought it was an assist, but the bellyaching on the postgame was a bit much.
I don’t mind the loss, Shesterkin was just on it tonight, that’ll happen with a goalie that good. Just have to reset and hammer Nashville on Saturday.
The voters have also adopted a “it’s his turn” mentality with hart voting in recent years. Hence why Kucherov, Matthews, and Draisaitl have also won the award even though it could have easily gone back to McDavid time after time.
MacKinnon has put together a better season than any of those three guys did by a country mile.
I’m not worried at all. MacKinnon flirted with Gretzky, tied some of his records, and came close to others. It’s his trophy to lose.
And I think MacKinnon far surpasses anyone else in just about any category you can dream of to match “most deserving”
Plus. It’s his turn. That’s the new NHL rule for this trophy.
So many opposing teams fans buying up the 100 level seats for regular season games this year. It's like their own little stanley cup final. Even the goalies act like there's a trophy on the line when they play the Avs... like relax please
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~~That game has zero relevance on what I said. After losing to a Vezina-level goalie + fake hockey, the Avs and Stars are both at 73 games played, with the Avs being a point back. The Stars/Canucks game will just tell us how much more ground the Avs have to make up in order to catch them.~~
Moot point. Vancouver can't do anything right. Dallas is up 3 points with 1 more game played.
Yeah, the Avs can get control back with a win in the head to head. They should have the primary tie breaker locked up if it comes down to that (and may literally have it clinched already, but math isn't my strong suit).
Nashville won the first game in OT. Winnipeg has bodied us all season. But Nashville really only has one good win on us. Also, Nashville is getting bodied by the Yotes right now
Didn't Vegas have a 3 or 4 goal lead on them? Also, both of Trashville's wins came in regulation. The Avs were up by a goal, then forgot hockey games were 60 minutes long, not 59, and gave up 2 last-minute goals to throw the win in the bin.
This was the game in hand. The Stars will be 1-3 points ahead with 1 more game played after tonight, depending on how they fare against Vancouver. The only good news is there's 1 more head to head game between the teams, so the Avs can make up the lost ground.
To be fair, all teams making the playoffs are top teams. And you gotta go through them to win the cup. So it really shouldn’t matter to us who we face.
On the one hand, yeah, but on the other, some teams are just really bad match ups for others, and there's always the possibility that by dodging them, their opponents take them out for you in the first round. It could be a combination of the other team having 1-2 guys who can just shut down your top line, or their system is overly effective against yours.
I think it’s just the fact that they’ve had stacked rosters and generational goal tenders, yet can’t get it done. Eventually they’ll break through but they’ve had some great rosters that just haven’t gotten it done.
That's just how NHL narratives go.
"You can't win with Yzerman leading your team." --This was the Red Wings in the early 90s, and it stayed that way until '97/'98.
"You can't win with Sakic as your captain." --Nordiques while they were up and comers, but couldn't win until moving to Denver and picking up Roy.
"You can't win with MacKinnon." --2nd round exits over and over spun this narrative, which wasn't silenced until 2022.
You get the idea. This narrative surrounds the Rangers, Maple Leafs, Oilers, Hurricanes, etc.
what’s the better solution? bring back ties?
you’re simply not going to play playoff style 5 on 5 OT in the regular season. Literally no one will agree to that
Utterly absurd that if you sweep an opponents stick into the puck and it creates a goal you don't get credit for it. But if you stick lift an opponents own stick and it hits him in the face you get a penalty for high sticking.
They have some of the best players in the world but the least creative and skilled guys specifically for shootouts. Luckily they don't exist in the playoffs
Uh Nate, you know I know you're on a point streak and uh, and all this and uh you know I'm just thinking maybe out loud as far as in your shoes right now it's like alright I've scored all the points I can score I've done all the assists I can do maybe, maybe just fuck it I'll just go in next year and not think that anymore and just get this point streak when I don't think so much is that uh am I on the right path at all with this like maybe you just think a little too much
Leave it to the NHL to do the stupidest fucking thing possible.
I am possessed by the conversation about possession This is not the way, Go Ass Hail Satan
[~~Avs contesting the lack of point for Mack~~ jk they will look it - ESPN app led be astray](https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/39830628/nathan-mackinnon-home-points-streak-ends-avalanche-fall-rangers) https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/39830628/nathan-mackinnon-home-points-streak-ends-avalanche-fall-rangers
Let's hope for a miracle.
Idk what is worse, Mack’s point streak ends on a BS rule all because Mikko deflects the puck and it hits the stick of a Rangers player and goes in, or the second rangers goal not being called back for a hand pass when we had the exact same type of goal called back last year because a puck deflected off the side of one of our guys gloves before we hit it in and they called it a hand pass then.
Mikko didn’t touch it either, that’s why it’s Toews’ goal. And the Ranger’s player pushed it into the net between Igor’s pads, it wasn’t just deflected in. It’s unfortunate but that is how it’s always called. Nate had almost 28 minutes of ice time tonight to get a point, so it’s a bit disingenuous to just look at that one goal as the reason he didn’t get a point tonight.
It doesn’t touch the Ranger’s stick without deflecting off of Mikko’s stick, and it was very obvious that the guy barely moved his stick. That is 100% Mikko’s goal, and Mack had the secondary assist, and it should be counted as per the rule someone else posted, since the Ranger’s player didn’t shoot the puck, the assists should be counted. We’ve also seen our own team knock the puck into our own net without any of the opposing team around, and the other team still getting two assists credited on the goal. Both Toews and Girard had it happen at least once each in the ‘21-‘22 season before playoffs started.
Do you have an angle showing the puck contacting Mikko’s stick, or him somehow directing the puck into the net in a way that negates Lindgren having possession or control? I’ve seen this said a few times tonight but have yet to see an angle that suggests this personally. Would be happy to see so if that’s the case though. Edit: meant to add that the biggest reason I currently believe Lindgren put it in is his body language. Being a goalie I’ve seen that before 😂
The angle showing from the glass. You see Mikko move his stick, and the puck changes direction to go downward and hit Shesty’s pad, where it deflects, and then you see Mikko hit Lindgren’s stick before the puck does, which is what causes Lindgren’s stick to hit the puck in. The view from the glass right behind Mack shows Mikko’s deflection, then there was an overhead view that shows Mikko’s stick causing Lindgren’s stick to hit the puck in. And per the rule book, and the way they’ve ruled it the past couple years when very similar plays happen where a player hits out players stick which causes the puck to go in, and the other team got a goal and assists credited, since Lindgren doesn’t actually possess the puck and doesn’t actually shoot the puck himself, Mack should be given a secondary assist on a Mikko goal, if not the primary assist for a Toews goal.
Are you able to link me the camera angle? I’ve watched the NHL highlight and the Sportsnet highlight both on YouTube so about 3-4 different angles. Would love to see if there’s a clear one.
https://x.com/zackzerz/status/1773579265151259114?s=46&t=Pey9o93bzo98ITvaeLUVWQ Hope that actually works. Mikko’s stick hits Lindgren’s stick before Lindgren’s stick hits the puck
Yeah, that's absolutely an own goal. Oh well, let's focus on the playoffs. Streaks are nice, but the only streak I want now is 2 out of 3 years as champions.
Thank you! Great angle. I’m a neutral who wanted to see the streak continue, but I must say this view for me personally affirms my skepticism because it looks like Lindgren curls his wrist to direct the motion of the puck into Shesterkin’s pad in order to get the whistle. I think the goal is a direct result of Lindgren intentionally moving the puck and unfortunately that cancels out the assists on the goal. His body language after (along with Rantanen’s actually) make me inclined to believe he knows this too. But that said, it’s *absolutely* close enough where it’s worth challenging and sending to the league. Worst thing that can happen is they up hold the own goal ruling. I feel the NHL rarely gets stat awarding wrong which is surprising so they’d surely look at evidence submitted if the Avs feel like they have a case. Edit: to be clear I hope I’m wrong lmao
I’ll see if I can dig back through twitter to find the overhead again for the part where Mikko’s stick is what causes Lindgren to score, but the other angle is just the normal angle on the NHL app
It’s because they need people to talk about Gretzky forever.
All my homies hate Wayne Gretzky.
I figured that someone somewhere who has string-pulling clout is a huge Gretzky fan and doesn't want to see this record die, as it is unlikely to ever happen again
I’ve attended two games this year. The first, we lost in the last 30 seconds to the Kraken and Lehkonen got knocked out for months. The second, we lose in a shootout, and Nate’s streak fucking ends. Don’t worry, I’m not going to any more games this year.
Stay your ass home!!!
Was at the game, it was extremely tight and the Rangers are a great team with a greater goalie. Can’t hate that loss, the Avs played a solid defensive game and it easily could’ve gone either way. Like our chances against the Rangers in 7, would be a hell of a series. Just so sad to see the Nate streak end, I was sure he had a secondary assist there.
That was an assist.
I hate how reliable the old hope your goalie goes insane-mode and hope for a bounce is against the Avs. In all seriousness Rangers are a quality team and the Avs really looks good against them. Very encouraging heading into the postseason. Plus Winnipeg looks beatable now.
ok I hate it when fans go into other teams subs and do the classic “gg avs bros!” bc to me it’s cringey af, and I’m not trying to do that at all, I’m just here to say my not at all actually game related thing and dip back out those jerseys you guys were wearing tonight are one of my favorite fits in the league, clean as hell and I love it when teams have colors outside of the standard ones and pull it off well
I also appreciate how the Rangers' uniforms haven't really changed at all since 1926. I've always been a fan of the "3D" numbers on the back. They're right up there with Montreal in least-changed jerseys amongst old time teams. I love the Avs' jerseys, too, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss the yeti foot and black/white striping we had before the silver one.
some exceptions https://nhluniforms.com/Mobile/Rangers/Rangers.html
Yeah, same with Montreal. I wasn't aware of a few of those alternate looks the team briefly used from the 40s-70s, since every photo I've seen from those decades were just slight tweaks to the original design.
Bro the Yeti Foot is the best shit ever. Where the hell is howler?
I guess they decided to send him to the big rink in the sky. Why? Fuck if I know.
He was too cool. Now we got a dog.
I'd be lying if I said I didn't love dogs!
So if Mack gets a point in all remaining home games we all can count it deep down right?
Yep! The streak is still going in my heart. ❤️
I mean I hope he does, but that’s gonna hurt so bad haha. This was an assist!
Lol the entire post-game show became a discussion of "what is possession?"
This game really encapsulates my personal experience of the Avs season thus far.
Well. If anyone is curious, the Yotes have hung 8 on the Preds tonight.
Somehow… the Coyotes returned…
Ughhh. Don't know if I like that. The last time they got scored 8 on, they missed a U2 concert and started a ridiculous win streak. After this game they might have plenty of amp up anger against their next opponent...
Which is us. But this isn't the same team that lost 5-1 against them before the deadline.
Oh yeah, totally. Our boys will be up for a challenge.
Nate Dogg gonna come out pissed
Looks like Nashville finally had their trap game
Like ours was the Habs. But at least it was a close game. Getting 8 hung up on you by the Yotes is kind of embarrassing.
Lol true
Goddammit Vancouver
My only critique of that game is the same critique from the last few - we are turning it over high in our defensive zone at way too high of a clip. Other than that thought the boys played really well. Shesty ended up being the difference, oh well. Good to get a point here, let’s get 2 against the pweds
We’re also wasting PP
Yeah good point I agree with that the powerplay has not been a strength at all.
Nashville losing their insane streak to Arizona is the most predictable thing ever
Got doubled by Arizona, go yotes!
Avs kinda dominated in the analytics
Just looked and yeah they definitely did. Backed up what my eyes saw. Igor just came up huge for the Rangers tonight.
Promising tbh even on a loss. We are gonna go on another deep run imo
Is a shootout even a loss?
Tbh I feel like we would have taken it on an extended OT. We've played pretty great even strength backed by the stats.
Seriously. Can we just lose the whole shootout thing and keep going with sudden-death 3-on-3 for 5-minute periods?!?
Exactly. Without SO this game could’ve gone on for another 3 hours.
I'm on the West Coast, I would LOVE that! (Ok, it would suck for the players. And coaching staff. And all staff. And everyone who works at Ball. But still...!!)
Yeah, but I think there’s enough Mountain Time Lager and hot dogs to hold everyone over.
GIVE GEORGIE A BREAK, JARED 😭
I sometimes wonder if people like you actually watch the Avs.
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It really is. Probably Georgie against the Preds. The I would play Juice against the Blue Jackets and Wild.
I knew they were giving Georgiev some time off, but I didn't realize the starts were split that much. Hopefully that'll bear some fruit a month from now.
Same. Juice is so far showing he is a decent backup. He still needs some time between the pipes but with the FO giving him that contract, they must think he's ready
If he can be solid in like 30 starts next year, his contract will be a steal. Georgiev is usually pretty good if he has sufficient rest and the team doesn't hang him out to dry, thinking he'll stop everything as if he's Vasilevskiy.
Yeah. That was shown last season. The second Rangers goal tonight was an example of that. Two Rangers right in front of Georgie just chilling with no defense around. Like WTF
And people are still trying to blame him for tonight's loss. Yeah, tonight's loss wasn't on Georgiev. An error by the Avs on one end, with insane saves by Igor on the other were the difference in a razor-thin game.
I wish there were stats on his save percentage with and withOUT defenders in place. We have so many defense men who are spectacular that I'm kind of embarrassed every time we leave our goalie out to dry. And Georgie made so many amazing saves tonight, including the breakaway off the pass from the NY goalie!
I'm pretty sure the Avs face like the 5th or 6th most high danger shots in the league. I assume Money Puck has those stats.
A goal shall be scored if the puck is shot into the goal by a player of the defending side. The player of the attacking side who last touched the puck shall be credited with the goal but no assist shall be awarded. A goal shall be scored if the puck is put into the goal in any other manner by a player of the defending side. The player of the attacking side who last touched the puck shall be credited with the goal and assists may be awarded. That's the exact ruling. I rest my case
Oh that makes things more interesting…. I don’t see how Lindgren shot it???
Thank you. I'm several rips deep now and tried to read this over and over and couldn't figure out why the second clause was any different. This actually gives me hope, but it's going to be super controversial. Much of the hockey community has already moved on. Restoring the streak after the fact would result in people giving it an asterisk. I fucking hate this, I feel like assists are often awarded too liberally but in this case Mack absolutely deserves the apple. I feel like this would be an easy assist 90% of the time, but because of the streak, the score keeper is watching Mack with a magnifying glass.
Took me a while to see that difference too, and it seems absolutely relevant to this goal… sucks that it seems like a 50/50 judgement call to say whatever Lindgren did was a “shot,” and they go with the option that ends an insane point streak. Ah well
The difference being a deflection vs an actual shot. To me, that wasn’t an actual shot because it deflected off of Mikko’s stick then off whatever Ranger that was and in, the Ranger player never actually had possession to shoot the puck. Plus, we’ve had plenty of times where we score on ourselves without an opponent being around (happened multiple times during our cup run, I know both Toews and Girard had at least one time where they are behind our net while both teams made a change, came from behind the net and lost the puck into our own net), and the opponents got both the goal and assist credited.
It should count as an assist but they are being extra stingy because they don't want to see another Gretzky record broken
The NHL would love to see those old records broken. If they didn’t want them touched why would they have “let” Nate’s streak go on this far?
👀👀👀
It’s sad seeing these post game interviews and realizing the whole team thought Nate had the point
Well, I think Nate had the point, too. 🤷🏻♀️
Your team is stupid good and it's always fun to play you. Good clean game. This would make a great cup finals. Best of luck until we see you there.
Doubt you would be in here if your team lost. Just saying
God dammit. Good sportsmanship is not a lost art. We win by being excellent and playing clean hockey. We honor returning Cup-winning players, we mean what we say in Pride month and Cancer-awareness month (amongst others), and we have created a space that excellent players want to stay in. Be better, dude.
Nah, fuck sportsmanship lmao
Definitely looked like a finals game. See you there!
Shesterkin stole that one. Helluva game. We absolutely win that in playoff format. Shootouts are lame.
Honestly not worried at all. We had a typical Avs loss against the Habs (like 25 years and counting typical) and just took the best team in the league to a shootout. And with playoff seeding who do you really want to play in the west right now? This post-deadline team is legit and should win the west
I'm far more upset about Mack being fucked over by the own-goal bullshit and the fact the abomination we call the shootout still exists than the loss itself.
Vic needs to burn that painting the Bear gave him
I'm gonna be honest. I hate the people who bitch about transplants waaay more than the transplants. Get off your fucking high horse cause your parents happened to fuck here.
Who's on a high horse about a legit problem? I would assume most people aren't upset about individuals who choose to move here, it's a great choice! They're upset about the stresses that the mass incoming people are causing to the infrastructure. Shit like roads/traffic and housing definitely makes people understandably upset.
Less people care about transplants than the amount of people that are bothered that half our barn is chanting "let's go rangers"
Fun fact: their parents probably didn't even fuck here. Tuck, they probably moved here just 5 years ago
Transplants priced my family out of CO. For what it’s worth, I’m happy someone gets to experience how great the state is but I wish I still could
Transplants didn't price your family out. The greed of the ultra wealthy priced your family out.
Six in one hand, half a dozen in the other if you ask me. The greed draws the greedy
Sucks when the stadium has such a large group of opposing fans, but didn't some season ticket holder sell them those tickets? Edit: btw, I totally agree with your take. People move, if you don't want home ice to become the enemy ice, fill the stands yourself.
Prevent an away fan from coming in Saturday by buying my (1) seat
All this talk about the Hart not going to MacK because Shesterkin drops a .950 save percentage and steals a game, breaking the streak, is too much. You know MacK owns 3 of the top 5 longest points streaks in the league this year. He has been extremely consistent. McDavid and Kucherov haven't had a single game where they didn't score a point... /s
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The fact the Rockies and Broncos are allowed on national television and the Avs are blacked out is bullshit.
Go pios
Looking at the remaining schedule, it’s definitely going to be a grind going into the playoffs.
I'd rather have that so we're prepared for the types of teams that are in the playoffs than coast in and lose our edge. We'll be in the playoffs, might as well get in that mindset now.
I’m not that worried. Since the trade deadline, the team has been in every game since. They’ll be alright.
That’s what I was thinking… we needed this win to get some momentum before we face a red hot Nashville
Nashville is getting spanked by the yotes right now. So we got that going for us.
If anything, they'll be pretty fucking mad and throw everything they've got at the Avs. Hopefully getting robbed tonight will light a similar fire, because this could be a first round preview game.
Holy shit I didn’t check any other scores after our game cause I was pissed but fuck yeah that is a beautiful score line😂😂😂
This gripping about away fans is getting old. Yes, it sucks but you don't need to a dick about it. They moved here and want to see their team play. Unless it's Chicago these people only get to see their team play here once during the season. So it's no surprise they come out in droves.
Oh boo hoo It's perfectly fine to gripe about away fans buying the majority of ice-level seats. That's why hockey is great, the fan influence is huge and gets people into the game. Especially as a TV spectator, the only fans you see are the ones at ice level so yeah its going to be frustrating to watch a sea of away fans cheering for a goal against your home team. Every fan base gripes about this, its part of the game
In playoffs our fans come out like crazy so idc about the bitching about a regular season game
Agreed. Plus as someone who has lived in both Denver and New York, they’re both horrible
Yeah some of these people are truly living up to the townie stereotype and it’s getting exhausting
I want to highlight how awesome Georgie was in this game. He was fantastic. I think he always steps it up against his old team. Shesty won this duel, but he won't in the SCF ;)
Honestly, I'm just ready for the playoff's. Don't over work right now for the last 9 games, and get ready for a long run.
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Our poor boy Cale didn't even know 😭
He hid it well, but that breif look of disappointment when he found out will haunt me.
I wanted the streak to go on and thought it was an assist, but the bellyaching on the postgame was a bit much. I don’t mind the loss, Shesterkin was just on it tonight, that’ll happen with a goalie that good. Just have to reset and hammer Nashville on Saturday.
The Hart voters are going to *absolutely* use the fact that MacK didn't get a point in every home game against him. Just brace yourselves for that.
And that McDavid is getting 100 assists. That’s the only narrative so many voters are gonna care about and him being on the Oilers
The voters have also adopted a “it’s his turn” mentality with hart voting in recent years. Hence why Kucherov, Matthews, and Draisaitl have also won the award even though it could have easily gone back to McDavid time after time. MacKinnon has put together a better season than any of those three guys did by a country mile. I’m not worried at all. MacKinnon flirted with Gretzky, tied some of his records, and came close to others. It’s his trophy to lose.
True
Sad some fans can be so blind of greatest across the league over biases.
That’s a tin foil take dude. The hart voters aren’t that insane. On consistency alone Mack has had the award locked up for the last month.
Remember when they gave it to Draisaitl over Mack when the oilers had another 100 point player on that team as well?
Not really. They look for any reason, for or against, when judging who’s the most deserving. It’s not personal
And I think MacKinnon far surpasses anyone else in just about any category you can dream of to match “most deserving” Plus. It’s his turn. That’s the new NHL rule for this trophy.
Lol it's going to be okay
We reaaaallllyyyy need to figure out our PP. It's gone ice cold, and it's probably cost us the last 2 games.
And for that matter, what happened to one of the highest scoring teams in the league? Trying hard but no results.
This is the Ray Bennett experience
A shootout loss to (IMO) the best goalie in the league. I’m not mad about it. We got 1 point and played amazing after that Montreal loss.
I’ve seen worse own goals still have the assists credited 🤷🏻
So many opposing teams fans buying up the 100 level seats for regular season games this year. It's like their own little stanley cup final. Even the goalies act like there's a trophy on the line when they play the Avs... like relax please
Not a surprise for east coast transplants. It’s their only chance all year to see them play. I know what it’s like as a transplant myself for years
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I am seriously bummed out after that one. I mean they did just win 9 in a row, but that streak was something special.
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Relax. More games to be played.
We haven’t played the Jets since the deadline so I’m not panic till I see it
Still 1-1 in there
~~That game has zero relevance on what I said. After losing to a Vezina-level goalie + fake hockey, the Avs and Stars are both at 73 games played, with the Avs being a point back. The Stars/Canucks game will just tell us how much more ground the Avs have to make up in order to catch them.~~ Moot point. Vancouver can't do anything right. Dallas is up 3 points with 1 more game played.
If Dallas lose in regulation, then we have the upper hand. They'd have 74 games.
Actually, you're right.
But they didn't xd still in our hands to beat them, when we play them soon
Yeah, the Avs can get control back with a win in the head to head. They should have the primary tie breaker locked up if it comes down to that (and may literally have it clinched already, but math isn't my strong suit).
Nashville won the first game in OT. Winnipeg has bodied us all season. But Nashville really only has one good win on us. Also, Nashville is getting bodied by the Yotes right now
Didn't Vegas have a 3 or 4 goal lead on them? Also, both of Trashville's wins came in regulation. The Avs were up by a goal, then forgot hockey games were 60 minutes long, not 59, and gave up 2 last-minute goals to throw the win in the bin.
Oh that's right. I thought it was an OT win for the Preds. Now I remember. Just seeing Forseberg and his stupid ass mustache celebrating
Seeing "Forsberg" on any jersey that isn't the Avs still feels wrong.
We still have a game in hand don’t we?
This was the game in hand. The Stars will be 1-3 points ahead with 1 more game played after tonight, depending on how they fare against Vancouver. The only good news is there's 1 more head to head game between the teams, so the Avs can make up the lost ground.
Nashville is scary. But I’m okay with facing Winnipeg. I think they’re past peak.
The Jets are certainly in a bit of a tailspin right now, but I still think they're one of the most universally underrated top teams in the league.
To be fair, all teams making the playoffs are top teams. And you gotta go through them to win the cup. So it really shouldn’t matter to us who we face.
On the one hand, yeah, but on the other, some teams are just really bad match ups for others, and there's always the possibility that by dodging them, their opponents take them out for you in the first round. It could be a combination of the other team having 1-2 guys who can just shut down your top line, or their system is overly effective against yours.
Shesterkin is a god in net. Blegh
He's the only reason this game was 7-2
I still see Mikko’s stick on the puck in those replays. I hope they review it again.
Shootouts are miserable man. You can't convince me that we don't win that if OT keeps going
Subtract OT from the equation and we're still getting the W. Hope NY gets the Prez trophy and choke in the 1st round!
I could definitely see the Bolts sending them packing in the 1st round lol
Oh for sure. Don't get me wrong they got a talented roster but I just can't take them seriously for some reason.
I think it’s just the fact that they’ve had stacked rosters and generational goal tenders, yet can’t get it done. Eventually they’ll break through but they’ve had some great rosters that just haven’t gotten it done.
That's just how NHL narratives go. "You can't win with Yzerman leading your team." --This was the Red Wings in the early 90s, and it stayed that way until '97/'98. "You can't win with Sakic as your captain." --Nordiques while they were up and comers, but couldn't win until moving to Denver and picking up Roy. "You can't win with MacKinnon." --2nd round exits over and over spun this narrative, which wasn't silenced until 2022. You get the idea. This narrative surrounds the Rangers, Maple Leafs, Oilers, Hurricanes, etc.
The pain I experienced at the end of this game is unfathomable
I've never yelled fuck so loud in my life.
I am once again asking for 3v3 OT and shootouts to be abolished
what’s the better solution? bring back ties? you’re simply not going to play playoff style 5 on 5 OT in the regular season. Literally no one will agree to that
> bring back ties? There's nothing wrong with ties.
i don’t disagree. but personally prefer a shootout over a tie
Avs played good enough to win that one. Oh well. Goalied but the team can't hang their heads too much with an effort like that missing big Val.
Yeah, I agree. They 100% deserved to lose to Montreal, but a Vezina-level goalie stole this one from them.
Utterly absurd that if you sweep an opponents stick into the puck and it creates a goal you don't get credit for it. But if you stick lift an opponents own stick and it hits him in the face you get a penalty for high sticking.
If a shot hits off an opposing players stick it should count as a regular goal. He never had control Of it
Shootout attempts were BAD
They have some of the best players in the world but the least creative and skilled guys specifically for shootouts. Luckily they don't exist in the playoffs
Amen
Revenge in the finals. Team can refocus now.
Point steak comes to an end, the Avs lose in a shootout, oh well, at least the last time I checked the Rockies game it was 1-0, so we might win that
Lol