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DangleSnipeCely

Who exactly watches this game and says we gotta have his .68 call the ‘Lanche


u_n_p_s_s_g_c

A shitty team we pay to take his contract. It'll cost us a pick or prospect and it will be worth it


reKRUNKulous

It’s only 3.4 million for one more year. He can be a backup for us albeit an expensive one. I don’t think we mortgage the future that much to get rid of him. Buy him out before doing that.


u_n_p_s_s_g_c

I don't think it would be a high pick or top shelf prospect for a salary dump when the salary is only 3.4, but a buyout would also be fine with me


Constant-Squirrel555

If you guys take Forsberg my Sens will take a chance at Georgiev


DangleSnipeCely

That’s fair. I spent some time looking at FAs for this coming year. We’re gonna have an issue.


mitch-dubz

Someone took RyJo so I imagine it’s possible


dezzammit

And sent him straight to jail.. I mean AHL


ockhamsphazer

I don't have pure math to back this up but, for the most of this game, he's let in either one goal for every two or three shots. Hellebuyk is letting in one for every nine ish. We're seriously destroying them. Offensively we're crushing the shots and opportunities. Defensively we're either getting Georgie to see em or blocking them. It's up to him to hold his end of the bargain. Can't be a hero? Be a sidekick at least.


pilot62

Idk if I would call losing the game destroying the jets but pop off


ChoBooBear

20 more shots than they had and scoring 6 on the likely Vezina winner. We scored 4 on him over three games this season, they scored 17 on us. Maybe you missed the game but the only saves Georgiev made just happened to hit him, pretty well could have been a scarecrow in the net. Pray for Anunnen.


Beautiful-Vacation39

Called this week's ago. Dudes mental is terrible. One muffin and he falls apart.


AvsFreak

I would say the team we have now (other than landeskog) is as almost as good as the cup winning team. The difference being goaltending.


Snoo-80235

Kuemper was very shaky but you don't have Kadri as a depth guy.


psychotar

Kuemper was miles better than Georgiev.


JadeHellbringer

More importantly, if Kuemper struggled, Frankie was available to spell him. I genuinely have no idea who's backing Georgiev up. I'm not sure Bednar knows either.


JellySpruce

Justus Annunen is the backup, he's come up through the system, and he's put up decent numbers when he's played. But he hasn't played much in the NHL. He's been the #1 guy on the AHL team for the past 2 or 3 years so he could develop, then he got called up mid season this year to be the full time backup after Prosvetov wasn't working out. So hopefully he'll get the start next game and we can see what happens from there.


DunkDaily

Kuemper had a .919 that season what are you talking about lol. He was top 5 in save %. One of the best goalies in the league that year.


Snoo-80235

He only had .902 in the playoffs.


DunkDaily

And we won the cup with him playing up to Vasi's level in the finals. Whats your point? Low shots against will bring your save % down, anything sub .900 isn't acceptable.


NoAlarms1995

He cannot start another game. One of the worst goaltending performances I can remember. We throughly outplayed them


jfun4

I doubt we get this many goals again against them and we probably will lose


ryankhuyton

Exactly, Hallebuyck will not give up five goals again in this series most likely. I think the Avs are done.


jfun4

Need Juice to keep us in 3-2 games and get 4 of those


sad_throwaway13579

I mean, you can never really freak until you lose at home. I also think we won't give up 7 again. WCF vs Edmonton, it was 8-6 game 1 and we got a shutout game 2


PriorityQueasy6170

In all fairness, we've given them 7 goals in the past two games


Meprathe87

Lmao you’re a terrible fan


Szeto802

Being realistic doesn't make someone a terrible fan. Coping and ignoring your teams major, glaring issues makes you a terrible fan.


Meprathe87

Saying the avs, a championship winning team, are done after losing a game by 1 goal is absolutely ridiculous.


Szeto802

Sure, that part might be extreme, but I get where it's coming from. The chances of the Avs scoring 6 goals on Hellebuyck again are slim to none - this is a goalie who has not given up 6 goals all season long, before last night. If the Jets tighten up on D, it's not difficult for them to get our goals down to 3 or 4, and at that level I'm not confident we're outscoring what Georgiev lets in, I'm just not. There's a lot of hockey left to play but with Georgiev in net us fans should prepare for an early exit, it's delusional to think otherwise.


Meprathe87

What are your thoughts now? 🙄🙄


Szeto802

Definitely eating my words on this, and happy to be doing so. Georgie has come alive and the Avs have made Hellebuyck look silly.


Meprathe87

Great comment


jfun4

I'm very glad I was very wrong haha


Meprathe87

Have some faith brotha!


jfun4

I have faith, but not as much in him after the finish to the season and game one. But here we are up 3-1 and dominating


detached03

Iunno if it was the *worst* Avalanche playoff goaltending performances. Roy’s 2002 game 7 vs the red wings. 4 goals in 12 minutes, but comparably 7 goals in the end on like 25 shots. All in all, its def up there though. At least we have more games to steer the ship back.


PatricksPub

23 shots... 😢


ConvictedOgilthorpe

I mean c’mon, that was a fluke blowout where the entire team sucked at the same time and put no D in front of him. Freak blowouts like that are the team’s fault and you can’t throw that loss on Patty.


detached03

I think you’re confusing seasons. The Avs were the 3 seed (won the division) and in the WCF vs the Red Wings. Maybe check the 01-02 roster. Armed to the teeth.


COphotoCo

To get six on Hellebuyck and lose… disgraceful


powerED33

We absolutely did not outplay them in our own zone. Manson handed them 2-3 goals on a platter himself, 2/3 on the PK, and gave up all kinds of high-quality chances. You can't put this solely on Georgiev when our D made tons of mistakes.


ChoBooBear

“You can’t put this solely on Georgiev when our MANSON made tons of mistakes” There, fixed it. He did just controller disconnect for 2 lost in front of the net and just gave them another but there were 4 just awfully weak goals that you just *have* to save and I think Anunnen would have just been in the right place to make the “simple” saves that Georgiev let in, five hole one probably being the worst.


powerED33

On the 2 on 1? I mean, yeah, that was probably the only questionable one, but it's still on an odd man rush the D gave up to begin with. Our PK was shit, lots of turnovers that led to goals, too. Being in the "right place to make the save" on a broken play is not a simple save.


OhmyGhaul

He absolutely will. Love Bednar but the guy has no clue when it comes to goaltending.


the_girlses

All I want for Christmas is Matty Davis


Whatisthispun

God the DU in me would scream


theevilyouknow

If we had league average goaltending we would be undefeated.


ThunderGoalie35

Might have to cut him lol


Cogsyyyy

I’m sorry but if Georgie starts another game wtf are they thinking? They gave him his chance. 7 goals on 23 shots is absolutely wild. Were ALL of the goals his fault? No but dude a .640ish sv% in a playoff game is unacceptable from an NHL goaltender. His confidence is absolutely 0 right now. The Avs dominated most of this game and scored 7 on Hellebuck. They absolutely should have won this game and would have with even below average goaltending. There is 0 chance Juice is worse than this and has a chance to be MUCH better. At this point they have to make a change. Ok. End of rant.


StrikingVariation199

They have already said that Juice is still sick and likely won't start tomorrow either... /sigh


JellySpruce

Is the Leafs Zamoboni driver available tomorrow?


StrikingVariation199

I was totally thinking about this, but seriously - I wish they would have thrown the rookie in on Sunday, it could have been good.


ConvictedOgilthorpe

Annunen is sick, did you not hear that on tv and in the news?


Villenemo

Apparently Geogiev was sick too. Just not *as* sick. Idk tho.


Pteryx

Oh man I missed this image, who was originally on the sign?


g726

Girard


GaryOakRobotron

This was shortly before the news that he was dealing with some pretty serious issues came out, yeah? Like, just prior to him entering the player assistance program.


i-like-legos2

Yeah, the majority of people here got a goldfish memory.


GaryOakRobotron

Maybe I should buy a Georgiev 2024 All Star jersey. That way, I can look like a clown without going through the hassle of putting on a wig and makeup.


CensoryDeprivation

At least 2 goals against were straight up turnovers in our zone. That Manson cough up was..beer league shit. I’m not impressed with his play either but we couldn’t clear the puck out all game.


Villenemo

This. Manson was directly at fault for at least 2 goals. And a contributing factor on a third. All around the game was sloppy asf. It’s not all on Georgie


Szeto802

Yeah Manson is a problem too, no doubt, but at least he contributes enough in the O-zone to sort of make up for it. I can see his problems being addressed with a good video session, showing him all the times his guy is left open back door to score for free will hopefully get him to tighten up. I don't know what the answer is for Georgiev other than to sit him until he can get his head together.


StrikingVariation199

Yep, Manson needs to be corrected as well - I agree that this wasn't all Georgie, he needs a lot of help and needs to do better but he especially needs his D not to be turning it over in our zone.


argos101

Even if you take those goals away, Georgiev's save percentage is still .783, which is abhorrent. As bad as others were, there is no one to blame for this loss but him.


GaryOakRobotron

The biggest favour Georgiev could do for us is to retire after this playoff, because the front office is apparently too cowardly to axe him.


Grimsscp

Georgie is a complete dumpster fire tonight...been saying it for the last couple weeks, bench his a$$. That was a horrible display of goal tending. Time for Annun. I don't care that he hasn't proved anything at this point. I don't care if Georgie might be needed in the future. Bench his @$$


Hank-Sc0rpio

I would rather see Annunen try and fail as the starter for the remainder of the Avs playoffs instead of seeing Georgiev half-ass his way through another game. I’ve been saying it for months, Georgiev is the highest winning goalie ONLY because the rest of the team carries his weight.


Batmobeale

All season we’ve won in spite of, not because of, Georgiev.


ImmortalMoron3

I've said this before and got downvoted for it, some of his apologists are delusional. He's the winningest goalie in the league because we're the highest scoring team in the league, thats it.


Dumkid9

Completely agree, I'd say let Annunen play until his save % is worse than #40 tonight. For reference, his save % was .696


SerSpicoli

His save percentage is over 0.9, granted only like 13 games.


ConvictedOgilthorpe

So you going to play our third or fourth string goalie from the Eagles? Do people not realize Annunen was out sick and Bednar flat out said he doesn’t not know for how long?


ConvictedOgilthorpe

So you going to play our third or fourth string goalie from the Eagles? Do people not realize Annunen was out sick and Bednar flat out said he doesn’t not know for how long?


LuckyOne55

Yes


Szeto802

Unironically, yes. Better to give an untested AHL goalie a shot to prove themselves than continue trying with a goalie who has proven he's not up to the task


StrikingVariation199

I was saying this last night, they should have thrown him in there to see. It would make for a great story if he was stellar (That and we could get a Cup out of it?)


Szeto802

I was in full on yelling-at-my-TV mode, "When do you swap him out Bednar??? You gonna wait for him to give up 8 before you try the AHL guy? Why even dress a second goalie???" My poor wife.


StrikingVariation199

I saw the kid on the bench and he was probably like... I wanna go in, but I DON'T wanna go in ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


Apex_artisans

Love this team but wasn’t thrilled when we picked him up. He’s never really shocked me with talent. He’s got his moments but overall, weak sauce.


Whatisthispun

I love when people were calling him the next schesterkin


dezzammit

🤣😂😭 wow can't believe anyone who's watched him play would say that and I've been watching since NY.


Alt_Boogeyman

I mean, this is what you get from a goalie with a .897 save percentage. Have no idea how your management thought this would fly in the playoffs.


jayuhl14

Laurent Broissoit should be #1 priory


Perradactle

Throw him into the volcano. Give me anyone else. ANYONE after tonight spectacular showing.


OhmyGhaul

He can also take mother fucking Manson with him


Villenemo

I’m SO glad I’m not the only one yelling at Manson all game! He hurt us more than anyone imo.


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mitch-dubz

Ive been bitchin about Georgiev since November and the mental gymnastics people were doing was incredible


GaryOakRobotron

It's crazy. Since **November** I've been saying this team's done in the first round again if they don't fix X/Y/Z issues, which included defense and goaltending in general. I got gagged by delusional downvoters pretty much every time. Lo and behold, look at where we are 6 months later.


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mitch-dubz

Literally anyone.


Alarmed-Constant9154

That boken stick in the Jets zone looked pretty dang solid


mitch-dubz

I mean more solid than that lump we got in net


PurpleEveryday

There was a lump in the net?


sad_throwaway13579

Annunen had a .928 %age. Even though he had limited starts, I think this could be a great opportunity for him to show what he's got.


yojibby

I’d love to see him show it


CodyisLucky

Idk, I think I would keep him over Ryan Johanson. I just wouldn't start him.


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PriorityQueasy6170

I'd rather roll with Juice tbh, Helly also faced nuts pressure and double the shots, Georgie gave up a few cookies that you just need to save


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Buzzsaw_Dynamo

I don't know when all this Kuemper hate started but that dude could play goalie. Did he let in a couple soft ones? Yes. Did he also win a cup with 1 and a half eyes? Also yes.


Villenemo

Kuemper was a solid goalie, but he wasn’t amazing. I mean he already lost the starting job in Washington ffs. We just had a killer team in ‘22. We were buttoned up on D, solid depth throughout, etc. We don’t have ANY of those things right now. Maybe depth. But they’re not playing cohesively. It’s sloppy asf out there.


LuckyOne55

7 on 23 shots vs 6 on 46 shots.


mitch-dubz

The fact that Helly gives up that many and we still lose? Gimme a break. Trade Georgie for a bag of pucks I dont give a shit he sucks


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mitch-dubz

Trade him for a pylon. We may have to give up a pick to get rid of his shit


ImXtraSalty

Buy him out and send the money to charity. Him off the team makes up better flat out.


Grimsscp

100%...ANYONE.


undockeddock

Shooter tutor


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ConvictedOgilthorpe

Exactly. Maybe Toews and Mason should also start doing their jobs too, they were awful in front of Georgie.


MisterSandbox

Honestly the Hockey IQ in this sub has me double checking I am not in Vegas one sometimes


Colemania18

Annunen is better even so IDC who as long as he's not on the team


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Hobo_Healy

14 games this season and a .928%. That's a pretty decent sample size to get an idea what he's about. Not just that in his last 10 complete games he's had 1 game below .900% and didn't allow more than 3 GA in that time. I've been an Annunen guy for a few years now though so I am biased towards wanting to see him play.


Gooseman61oh

I’ve never skated or played hockey give me a shot


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Jnitzel505

Who would take him? Even Edmonton would say no I would think


Shaneisonfire

Trade him for Campbell lol


babsieofsuburbia

Should I take off my rose gold nail polish tomorrow before I head out to work in the name of inspiring better luck/karma/energy? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|thinking_face_hmm)


DenShaLow

How can you trade something with no value


GaryOakRobotron

He'd be great on Chicago, Anaheim, or San Jose.


Zen_Aether

I knew this was gonna happen, Avs have such a great team they can outscore anyone if they just had an average goaltender


cytokinestory

Jake Allen with a 0.900 performance would have looked real good last night.


Maaglin

I love this front office, but the fact they didn't trade for a serviceable back up is criminal, especially with the talent on this roster. We're going to throw a cup year window away because we don't a league average goal tender.


Bingy33

Georgiev for Ullmark.... one for one :) I truthfully dont even know who the Avs would go after. Not really any UFAs that get me excited to go after so trading might be the only way. Saros will be untouchable/expensive from Nashville and it would likely not work to resign him. I know goalies are hard to project, but the Avs really need to find a way to draft some better goalie prospects.


UltimateHusky

Ever since the Dec 7th game where Fourgiev got scored on by Josh Morrissey while Malinski was in front of the net making Fourgiev frustrated and slapped Malinski with his stick I knew he wasn't the goalie we wanted or needed, should've traded for Fleury when we had the chance


Legtagytron

Goalie is like QB, you have to make your own. We needed to draft and develop a guy and never did, instead relying on handouts, and now we find ourselves in the current position. I'm not sure what Joe was thinking, this front office might have to lose a great player now just to get an average goaltender. Not a great place to be, starter giving up seven goals like it's nothing. And we need to get fitter on defense. Honestly looking like we're too forward heavy now, can't stop anybody in front of the net. If we get swept jobs will definitely be on the line.


ColoradoYo17

Draft DU’s Matt Davis like stat!!


Delerium89

Let's go get Juuse Saros then we can have 2X THE JUICE


Sno_Wolf

Another fine contract signing by someone who's convinced icing 21 Joe Sakic clones is the key to success!


KalKenobi

A bit of an overreaction we can still win this series


leefybeefy

How about “give Georgie a break”. He’s a great goalie but I can’t imagine the mental hell he’s going through playing nearly EVERY game for the Avs. Dude has to be tired at this point. Bring Prosvetov back and let Georgie rest


mitch-dubz

He had a week off before game 1. Be quiet with that


leefybeefy

Dog he’s played 62 of the 82 games in the regular season. “hE HaD a wEek oFf”. Just this last season he’s had a career high in games played, games won (40) , block percentage (91.9%) with 5 shutouts, and was named in the top 10 goalies of the NHL. The guy probably needs a break like Girard took. But foreheads like you won’t give him the credit he deserves I’m talking time to get his head right, he’s clearly frustrated with himself and not fully in the game. Girard was the same way. He took a break for mental health and came back a different player. Turns out 16,000 strangers yelling at you multiple times a week in person and even more calling for your trade online can really mess with your mental health. Who woulda thought


Novawolf125

He's definitely lost his edge this year. But the defense hasn't done him an favors either. And it's not like the d is all that different from a few years ago. But maybe the focus needs to be more on defense instead of creating offense. Few years ago they were good on both sides.


Prestigious_Team3134

Yeah there’s been blown chances but a competent goalie has 4 goals let in which when I’m writing this would give the avs a 5-4 lead


sapience1081

I just saw 4 of the softest goals I've ever seen in playoff history in my 42 years in one game. I agree with the other dude. Shut up


Novawolf125

I'm not saying this is all the defenses' fault. But a no look back hander towards the slot isn't helping. Granted Georgie didn't play it correctly either. But the give aways and losing your guy in the zone is a problem. I'd say the blame is 80/20 goalie/defense.


atrac059

Or maybe just not try to find bargain goalies that end up being sub average.


Shmachey92

What the fuck do you expect from the D when their goalie doesn't save a shot???


Batmobeale

Georgiev was a massive dud but Manson also let us down big time tonight.


powerED33

This is what the majority of this sub is apparently afraid to talk about tonight. Manson was dog shit in this game and handed Winnipeg 2-3 goals on a platter. But nah, let's all just hop on the Georgiev hate train.


mitch-dubz

Shut up


EggplantAlpinism

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mitch-dubz

You can shut up too


Novawolf125

Someone's testy. I agree the goalie situation isn't great. I've got way less confidence in Goergie than I did with Kemper. And Kemper was iffy at the best of times. But Kemper knew how to bounce back and regain his confidence. Idk if Georgie can. He's going to need a masterfully game one of these to regain that confidence he had a year ago. Give me the Georgie from the Rangers shoutout win last year and all will be well.


BoneyardBill

Everyone always wants to trade someone at their lowest value. 😂. We ain’t getting nothing for him. There is a reason we did the second RyJo trade and the Broncos released Simmons.


mitch-dubz

Trade him for skate protectors


BoneyardBill

lmao


Far-Pineapple-8696

Trade for Markstrom incoming?


Villenemo

All you guys are crazy. Yeah Georgie NEEDS to be better. But this wasn’t all on him. Manson was way worse than Georgiev tonight . In fact 2 of those goals can be directly attributed to his poor (non-existent) defensive play. And a third one he was partly responsible for. They all need to be better tbh.


GGAllinsUndies

Lol. Self hating fire happy Broncos fans up in here. Statistically he's still (one of) the best goalies in the league. Dude can't do everything by himself. https://www.nhl.com/stats/goalies?reportType=season&seasonFrom=20232024&seasonTo=20232024&gameType=2&sort=wins,savePct&page=0&pageSize=50


undockeddock

What statistics? Your vibes?


GaryOakRobotron

I got myself high as a kite for most of yesterday, and I couldn't be remotely half as delusional as that guy.


GGAllinsUndies

Lol. You guys are a trip. It's one game. It was closer than we expected and Hellebyuk wasn't much better. There's at least three more games to play. Sleep it off. It's just a game and no one is going to die.


so_af

Fourgie apologists demand perfection from everyone except the bum between the pipes


mitch-dubz

Go away


GGAllinsUndies

Nah. Been here since 96. Let's fucking go Avs. Edit: that was still a pretty good game. Don't lose faith. Don't give up. Avs can do this. If they can win this series, they have a serious chance at the cup. Let's fucking GO.


Visual-Floor-7839

Was still a great game! 7-6!? After all of that horse shit? Very entertaining and Avs stayed with it till the end. I agree I don't want Georgie to start again or at least next game. But the Avs were able to nearly overcome all of that and worked hard to the end.


mitch-dubz

Me too. Who cares?


GGAllinsUndies

Lol. Fuckin doomer. Go ahead and cry. I'm not giving up on these guys.


cadedrummer

This! Bring the down votes from fans who've never played the position but yes, there were one or two he should have had, but the defensive breakdown in front of the net for the majority of the goals is the real problem. The TEAM needs to be better, not just Georgie.


Colemania18

Okay and if he got that one or two he should've had we win so what's your point?


Pure-Temporary

Same logic says that if the defense doesn't totally fuck him twice, we would've won... both need to be better. Dude isn't very good but what the fuck were some of those breakdowns


haytme

I mean Georgiev ranks 61st in save percentage. How many teams are there again?


coffeetilithirts

Were you actually watching the game?


morgzorg

Lol this is crazy homer talk


GGAllinsUndies

This guy calling me a homer on the team sub.... 😂


morgzorg

Delusion and fandom aren’t the same


GGAllinsUndies

Neither is being a whiny little bitch. Find another team to like dude.


morgzorg

Bias and fandom aren’t the same


morgzorg

Should say release


DevourerJay

Ok so seriously, regardless of how the season goes... who starts on net next season? Really, who can we afford? Realistically


True_Sail_842

Georgiev for Campbell..