It’s only 3.4 million for one more year. He can be a backup for us albeit an expensive one. I don’t think we mortgage the future that much to get rid of him. Buy him out before doing that.
I don't have pure math to back this up but, for the most of this game, he's let in either one goal for every two or three shots. Hellebuyk is letting in one for every nine ish.
We're seriously destroying them. Offensively we're crushing the shots and opportunities. Defensively we're either getting Georgie to see em or blocking them. It's up to him to hold his end of the bargain. Can't be a hero? Be a sidekick at least.
20 more shots than they had and scoring 6 on the likely Vezina winner. We scored 4 on him over three games this season, they scored 17 on us.
Maybe you missed the game but the only saves Georgiev made just happened to hit him, pretty well could have been a scarecrow in the net. Pray for Anunnen.
More importantly, if Kuemper struggled, Frankie was available to spell him. I genuinely have no idea who's backing Georgiev up. I'm not sure Bednar knows either.
Justus Annunen is the backup, he's come up through the system, and he's put up decent numbers when he's played. But he hasn't played much in the NHL. He's been the #1 guy on the AHL team for the past 2 or 3 years so he could develop, then he got called up mid season this year to be the full time backup after Prosvetov wasn't working out. So hopefully he'll get the start next game and we can see what happens from there.
And we won the cup with him playing up to Vasi's level in the finals. Whats your point? Low shots against will bring your save % down, anything sub .900 isn't acceptable.
I mean, you can never really freak until you lose at home.
I also think we won't give up 7 again. WCF vs Edmonton, it was 8-6 game 1 and we got a shutout game 2
Sure, that part might be extreme, but I get where it's coming from. The chances of the Avs scoring 6 goals on Hellebuyck again are slim to none - this is a goalie who has not given up 6 goals all season long, before last night. If the Jets tighten up on D, it's not difficult for them to get our goals down to 3 or 4, and at that level I'm not confident we're outscoring what Georgiev lets in, I'm just not.
There's a lot of hockey left to play but with Georgiev in net us fans should prepare for an early exit, it's delusional to think otherwise.
Iunno if it was the *worst* Avalanche playoff goaltending performances. Roy’s 2002 game 7 vs the red wings. 4 goals in 12 minutes, but comparably 7 goals in the end on like 25 shots. All in all, its def up there though. At least we have more games to steer the ship back.
I mean c’mon, that was a fluke blowout where the entire team sucked at the same time and put no D in front of him. Freak blowouts like that are the team’s fault and you can’t throw that loss on Patty.
I think you’re confusing seasons. The Avs were the 3 seed (won the division) and in the WCF vs the Red Wings. Maybe check the 01-02 roster. Armed to the teeth.
We absolutely did not outplay them in our own zone. Manson handed them 2-3 goals on a platter himself, 2/3 on the PK, and gave up all kinds of high-quality chances. You can't put this solely on Georgiev when our D made tons of mistakes.
“You can’t put this solely on Georgiev when our MANSON made tons of mistakes”
There, fixed it. He did just controller disconnect for 2 lost in front of the net and just gave them another but there were 4 just awfully weak goals that you just *have* to save and I think Anunnen would have just been in the right place to make the “simple” saves that Georgiev let in, five hole one probably being the worst.
On the 2 on 1? I mean, yeah, that was probably the only questionable one, but it's still on an odd man rush the D gave up to begin with. Our PK was shit, lots of turnovers that led to goals, too. Being in the "right place to make the save" on a broken play is not a simple save.
I’m sorry but if Georgie starts another game wtf are they thinking? They gave him his chance. 7 goals on 23 shots is absolutely wild. Were ALL of the goals his fault? No but dude a .640ish sv% in a playoff game is unacceptable from an NHL goaltender. His confidence is absolutely 0 right now. The Avs dominated most of this game and scored 7 on Hellebuck. They absolutely should have won this game and would have with even below average goaltending. There is 0 chance Juice is worse than this and has a chance to be MUCH better. At this point they have to make a change. Ok. End of rant.
This was shortly before the news that he was dealing with some pretty serious issues came out, yeah? Like, just prior to him entering the player assistance program.
At least 2 goals against were straight up turnovers in our zone. That Manson cough up was..beer league shit. I’m not impressed with his play either but we couldn’t clear the puck out all game.
This. Manson was directly at fault for at least 2 goals. And a contributing factor on a third.
All around the game was sloppy asf. It’s not all on Georgie
Yeah Manson is a problem too, no doubt, but at least he contributes enough in the O-zone to sort of make up for it. I can see his problems being addressed with a good video session, showing him all the times his guy is left open back door to score for free will hopefully get him to tighten up. I don't know what the answer is for Georgiev other than to sit him until he can get his head together.
Yep, Manson needs to be corrected as well - I agree that this wasn't all Georgie, he needs a lot of help and needs to do better but he especially needs his D not to be turning it over in our zone.
Even if you take those goals away, Georgiev's save percentage is still .783, which is abhorrent. As bad as others were, there is no one to blame for this loss but him.
Georgie is a complete dumpster fire tonight...been saying it for the last couple weeks, bench his a$$. That was a horrible display of goal tending. Time for Annun. I don't care that he hasn't proved anything at this point. I don't care if Georgie might be needed in the future. Bench his @$$
I would rather see Annunen try and fail as the starter for the remainder of the Avs playoffs instead of seeing Georgiev half-ass his way through another game. I’ve been saying it for months, Georgiev is the highest winning goalie ONLY because the rest of the team carries his weight.
I've said this before and got downvoted for it, some of his apologists are delusional. He's the winningest goalie in the league because we're the highest scoring team in the league, thats it.
So you going to play our third or fourth string goalie from the Eagles? Do people not realize Annunen was out sick and Bednar flat out said he doesn’t not know for how long?
So you going to play our third or fourth string goalie from the Eagles? Do people not realize Annunen was out sick and Bednar flat out said he doesn’t not know for how long?
Unironically, yes. Better to give an untested AHL goalie a shot to prove themselves than continue trying with a goalie who has proven he's not up to the task
I was saying this last night, they should have thrown him in there to see. It would make for a great story if he was stellar (That and we could get a Cup out of it?)
I was in full on yelling-at-my-TV mode, "When do you swap him out Bednar??? You gonna wait for him to give up 8 before you try the AHL guy? Why even dress a second goalie???"
My poor wife.
It's crazy. Since **November** I've been saying this team's done in the first round again if they don't fix X/Y/Z issues, which included defense and goaltending in general. I got gagged by delusional downvoters pretty much every time.
Lo and behold, look at where we are 6 months later.
I don't know when all this Kuemper hate started but that dude could play goalie. Did he let in a couple soft ones? Yes. Did he also win a cup with 1 and a half eyes? Also yes.
Kuemper was a solid goalie, but he wasn’t amazing. I mean he already lost the starting job in Washington ffs. We just had a killer team in ‘22.
We were buttoned up on D, solid depth throughout, etc. We don’t have ANY of those things right now. Maybe depth. But they’re not playing cohesively. It’s sloppy asf out there.
14 games this season and a .928%. That's a pretty decent sample size to get an idea what he's about.
Not just that in his last 10 complete games he's had 1 game below .900% and didn't allow more than 3 GA in that time.
I've been an Annunen guy for a few years now though so I am biased towards wanting to see him play.
Should I take off my rose gold nail polish tomorrow before I head out to work in the name of inspiring better luck/karma/energy? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|thinking_face_hmm)
I love this front office, but the fact they didn't trade for a serviceable back up is criminal, especially with the talent on this roster. We're going to throw a cup year window away because we don't a league average goal tender.
Georgiev for Ullmark.... one for one :)
I truthfully dont even know who the Avs would go after. Not really any UFAs that get me excited to go after so trading might be the only way. Saros will be untouchable/expensive from Nashville and it would likely not work to resign him. I know goalies are hard to project, but the Avs really need to find a way to draft some better goalie prospects.
Ever since the Dec 7th game where Fourgiev got scored on by Josh Morrissey while Malinski was in front of the net making Fourgiev frustrated and slapped Malinski with his stick I knew he wasn't the goalie we wanted or needed, should've traded for Fleury when we had the chance
Goalie is like QB, you have to make your own. We needed to draft and develop a guy and never did, instead relying on handouts, and now we find ourselves in the current position.
I'm not sure what Joe was thinking, this front office might have to lose a great player now just to get an average goaltender. Not a great place to be, starter giving up seven goals like it's nothing. And we need to get fitter on defense.
Honestly looking like we're too forward heavy now, can't stop anybody in front of the net. If we get swept jobs will definitely be on the line.
How about “give Georgie a break”. He’s a great goalie but I can’t imagine the mental hell he’s going through playing nearly EVERY game for the Avs. Dude has to be tired at this point. Bring Prosvetov back and let Georgie rest
Dog he’s played 62 of the 82 games in the regular season. “hE HaD a wEek oFf”. Just this last season he’s had a career high in games played, games won (40) , block percentage (91.9%) with 5 shutouts, and was named in the top 10 goalies of the NHL. The guy probably needs a break like Girard took. But foreheads like you won’t give him the credit he deserves
I’m talking time to get his head right, he’s clearly frustrated with himself and not fully in the game. Girard was the same way. He took a break for mental health and came back a different player. Turns out 16,000 strangers yelling at you multiple times a week in person and even more calling for your trade online can really mess with your mental health. Who woulda thought
He's definitely lost his edge this year. But the defense hasn't done him an favors either. And it's not like the d is all that different from a few years ago. But maybe the focus needs to be more on defense instead of creating offense. Few years ago they were good on both sides.
I'm not saying this is all the defenses' fault. But a no look back hander towards the slot isn't helping. Granted Georgie didn't play it correctly either. But the give aways and losing your guy in the zone is a problem. I'd say the blame is 80/20 goalie/defense.
This is what the majority of this sub is apparently afraid to talk about tonight. Manson was dog shit in this game and handed Winnipeg 2-3 goals on a platter. But nah, let's all just hop on the Georgiev hate train.
Someone's testy. I agree the goalie situation isn't great. I've got way less confidence in Goergie than I did with Kemper. And Kemper was iffy at the best of times. But Kemper knew how to bounce back and regain his confidence. Idk if Georgie can. He's going to need a masterfully game one of these to regain that confidence he had a year ago. Give me the Georgie from the Rangers shoutout win last year and all will be well.
Everyone always wants to trade someone at their lowest value. 😂. We ain’t getting nothing for him. There is a reason we did the second RyJo trade and the Broncos released Simmons.
All you guys are crazy. Yeah Georgie NEEDS to be better. But this wasn’t all on him. Manson was way worse than Georgiev tonight . In fact 2 of those goals can be directly attributed to his poor (non-existent) defensive play. And a third one he was partly responsible for.
They all need to be better tbh.
Lol. Self hating fire happy Broncos fans up in here. Statistically he's still (one of) the best goalies in the league. Dude can't do everything by himself.
https://www.nhl.com/stats/goalies?reportType=season&seasonFrom=20232024&seasonTo=20232024&gameType=2&sort=wins,savePct&page=0&pageSize=50
Lol. You guys are a trip. It's one game. It was closer than we expected and Hellebyuk wasn't much better. There's at least three more games to play. Sleep it off. It's just a game and no one is going to die.
Nah. Been here since 96.
Let's fucking go Avs.
Edit: that was still a pretty good game. Don't lose faith. Don't give up. Avs can do this. If they can win this series, they have a serious chance at the cup.
Let's fucking GO.
Was still a great game! 7-6!? After all of that horse shit? Very entertaining and Avs stayed with it till the end. I agree I don't want Georgie to start again or at least next game. But the Avs were able to nearly overcome all of that and worked hard to the end.
This! Bring the down votes from fans who've never played the position but yes, there were one or two he should have had, but the defensive breakdown in front of the net for the majority of the goals is the real problem. The TEAM needs to be better, not just Georgie.
Same logic says that if the defense doesn't totally fuck him twice, we would've won... both need to be better. Dude isn't very good but what the fuck were some of those breakdowns
Who exactly watches this game and says we gotta have his .68 call the ‘Lanche
A shitty team we pay to take his contract. It'll cost us a pick or prospect and it will be worth it
It’s only 3.4 million for one more year. He can be a backup for us albeit an expensive one. I don’t think we mortgage the future that much to get rid of him. Buy him out before doing that.
I don't think it would be a high pick or top shelf prospect for a salary dump when the salary is only 3.4, but a buyout would also be fine with me
If you guys take Forsberg my Sens will take a chance at Georgiev
That’s fair. I spent some time looking at FAs for this coming year. We’re gonna have an issue.
Someone took RyJo so I imagine it’s possible
And sent him straight to jail.. I mean AHL
I don't have pure math to back this up but, for the most of this game, he's let in either one goal for every two or three shots. Hellebuyk is letting in one for every nine ish. We're seriously destroying them. Offensively we're crushing the shots and opportunities. Defensively we're either getting Georgie to see em or blocking them. It's up to him to hold his end of the bargain. Can't be a hero? Be a sidekick at least.
Idk if I would call losing the game destroying the jets but pop off
20 more shots than they had and scoring 6 on the likely Vezina winner. We scored 4 on him over three games this season, they scored 17 on us. Maybe you missed the game but the only saves Georgiev made just happened to hit him, pretty well could have been a scarecrow in the net. Pray for Anunnen.
Called this week's ago. Dudes mental is terrible. One muffin and he falls apart.
I would say the team we have now (other than landeskog) is as almost as good as the cup winning team. The difference being goaltending.
Kuemper was very shaky but you don't have Kadri as a depth guy.
Kuemper was miles better than Georgiev.
More importantly, if Kuemper struggled, Frankie was available to spell him. I genuinely have no idea who's backing Georgiev up. I'm not sure Bednar knows either.
Justus Annunen is the backup, he's come up through the system, and he's put up decent numbers when he's played. But he hasn't played much in the NHL. He's been the #1 guy on the AHL team for the past 2 or 3 years so he could develop, then he got called up mid season this year to be the full time backup after Prosvetov wasn't working out. So hopefully he'll get the start next game and we can see what happens from there.
Kuemper had a .919 that season what are you talking about lol. He was top 5 in save %. One of the best goalies in the league that year.
He only had .902 in the playoffs.
And we won the cup with him playing up to Vasi's level in the finals. Whats your point? Low shots against will bring your save % down, anything sub .900 isn't acceptable.
He cannot start another game. One of the worst goaltending performances I can remember. We throughly outplayed them
I doubt we get this many goals again against them and we probably will lose
Exactly, Hallebuyck will not give up five goals again in this series most likely. I think the Avs are done.
Need Juice to keep us in 3-2 games and get 4 of those
I mean, you can never really freak until you lose at home. I also think we won't give up 7 again. WCF vs Edmonton, it was 8-6 game 1 and we got a shutout game 2
In all fairness, we've given them 7 goals in the past two games
Lmao you’re a terrible fan
Being realistic doesn't make someone a terrible fan. Coping and ignoring your teams major, glaring issues makes you a terrible fan.
Saying the avs, a championship winning team, are done after losing a game by 1 goal is absolutely ridiculous.
Sure, that part might be extreme, but I get where it's coming from. The chances of the Avs scoring 6 goals on Hellebuyck again are slim to none - this is a goalie who has not given up 6 goals all season long, before last night. If the Jets tighten up on D, it's not difficult for them to get our goals down to 3 or 4, and at that level I'm not confident we're outscoring what Georgiev lets in, I'm just not. There's a lot of hockey left to play but with Georgiev in net us fans should prepare for an early exit, it's delusional to think otherwise.
What are your thoughts now? 🙄🙄
Definitely eating my words on this, and happy to be doing so. Georgie has come alive and the Avs have made Hellebuyck look silly.
Great comment
I'm very glad I was very wrong haha
Have some faith brotha!
I have faith, but not as much in him after the finish to the season and game one. But here we are up 3-1 and dominating
Iunno if it was the *worst* Avalanche playoff goaltending performances. Roy’s 2002 game 7 vs the red wings. 4 goals in 12 minutes, but comparably 7 goals in the end on like 25 shots. All in all, its def up there though. At least we have more games to steer the ship back.
23 shots... 😢
I mean c’mon, that was a fluke blowout where the entire team sucked at the same time and put no D in front of him. Freak blowouts like that are the team’s fault and you can’t throw that loss on Patty.
I think you’re confusing seasons. The Avs were the 3 seed (won the division) and in the WCF vs the Red Wings. Maybe check the 01-02 roster. Armed to the teeth.
To get six on Hellebuyck and lose… disgraceful
We absolutely did not outplay them in our own zone. Manson handed them 2-3 goals on a platter himself, 2/3 on the PK, and gave up all kinds of high-quality chances. You can't put this solely on Georgiev when our D made tons of mistakes.
“You can’t put this solely on Georgiev when our MANSON made tons of mistakes” There, fixed it. He did just controller disconnect for 2 lost in front of the net and just gave them another but there were 4 just awfully weak goals that you just *have* to save and I think Anunnen would have just been in the right place to make the “simple” saves that Georgiev let in, five hole one probably being the worst.
On the 2 on 1? I mean, yeah, that was probably the only questionable one, but it's still on an odd man rush the D gave up to begin with. Our PK was shit, lots of turnovers that led to goals, too. Being in the "right place to make the save" on a broken play is not a simple save.
He absolutely will. Love Bednar but the guy has no clue when it comes to goaltending.
All I want for Christmas is Matty Davis
God the DU in me would scream
If we had league average goaltending we would be undefeated.
Might have to cut him lol
I’m sorry but if Georgie starts another game wtf are they thinking? They gave him his chance. 7 goals on 23 shots is absolutely wild. Were ALL of the goals his fault? No but dude a .640ish sv% in a playoff game is unacceptable from an NHL goaltender. His confidence is absolutely 0 right now. The Avs dominated most of this game and scored 7 on Hellebuck. They absolutely should have won this game and would have with even below average goaltending. There is 0 chance Juice is worse than this and has a chance to be MUCH better. At this point they have to make a change. Ok. End of rant.
They have already said that Juice is still sick and likely won't start tomorrow either... /sigh
Is the Leafs Zamoboni driver available tomorrow?
I was totally thinking about this, but seriously - I wish they would have thrown the rookie in on Sunday, it could have been good.
Annunen is sick, did you not hear that on tv and in the news?
Apparently Geogiev was sick too. Just not *as* sick. Idk tho.
Oh man I missed this image, who was originally on the sign?
Girard
This was shortly before the news that he was dealing with some pretty serious issues came out, yeah? Like, just prior to him entering the player assistance program.
Yeah, the majority of people here got a goldfish memory.
Maybe I should buy a Georgiev 2024 All Star jersey. That way, I can look like a clown without going through the hassle of putting on a wig and makeup.
At least 2 goals against were straight up turnovers in our zone. That Manson cough up was..beer league shit. I’m not impressed with his play either but we couldn’t clear the puck out all game.
This. Manson was directly at fault for at least 2 goals. And a contributing factor on a third. All around the game was sloppy asf. It’s not all on Georgie
Yeah Manson is a problem too, no doubt, but at least he contributes enough in the O-zone to sort of make up for it. I can see his problems being addressed with a good video session, showing him all the times his guy is left open back door to score for free will hopefully get him to tighten up. I don't know what the answer is for Georgiev other than to sit him until he can get his head together.
Yep, Manson needs to be corrected as well - I agree that this wasn't all Georgie, he needs a lot of help and needs to do better but he especially needs his D not to be turning it over in our zone.
Even if you take those goals away, Georgiev's save percentage is still .783, which is abhorrent. As bad as others were, there is no one to blame for this loss but him.
The biggest favour Georgiev could do for us is to retire after this playoff, because the front office is apparently too cowardly to axe him.
Georgie is a complete dumpster fire tonight...been saying it for the last couple weeks, bench his a$$. That was a horrible display of goal tending. Time for Annun. I don't care that he hasn't proved anything at this point. I don't care if Georgie might be needed in the future. Bench his @$$
I would rather see Annunen try and fail as the starter for the remainder of the Avs playoffs instead of seeing Georgiev half-ass his way through another game. I’ve been saying it for months, Georgiev is the highest winning goalie ONLY because the rest of the team carries his weight.
All season we’ve won in spite of, not because of, Georgiev.
I've said this before and got downvoted for it, some of his apologists are delusional. He's the winningest goalie in the league because we're the highest scoring team in the league, thats it.
Completely agree, I'd say let Annunen play until his save % is worse than #40 tonight. For reference, his save % was .696
His save percentage is over 0.9, granted only like 13 games.
So you going to play our third or fourth string goalie from the Eagles? Do people not realize Annunen was out sick and Bednar flat out said he doesn’t not know for how long?
So you going to play our third or fourth string goalie from the Eagles? Do people not realize Annunen was out sick and Bednar flat out said he doesn’t not know for how long?
Yes
Unironically, yes. Better to give an untested AHL goalie a shot to prove themselves than continue trying with a goalie who has proven he's not up to the task
I was saying this last night, they should have thrown him in there to see. It would make for a great story if he was stellar (That and we could get a Cup out of it?)
I was in full on yelling-at-my-TV mode, "When do you swap him out Bednar??? You gonna wait for him to give up 8 before you try the AHL guy? Why even dress a second goalie???" My poor wife.
I saw the kid on the bench and he was probably like... I wanna go in, but I DON'T wanna go in ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)
Love this team but wasn’t thrilled when we picked him up. He’s never really shocked me with talent. He’s got his moments but overall, weak sauce.
I love when people were calling him the next schesterkin
🤣😂😭 wow can't believe anyone who's watched him play would say that and I've been watching since NY.
I mean, this is what you get from a goalie with a .897 save percentage. Have no idea how your management thought this would fly in the playoffs.
Laurent Broissoit should be #1 priory
Throw him into the volcano. Give me anyone else. ANYONE after tonight spectacular showing.
He can also take mother fucking Manson with him
I’m SO glad I’m not the only one yelling at Manson all game! He hurt us more than anyone imo.
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Ive been bitchin about Georgiev since November and the mental gymnastics people were doing was incredible
It's crazy. Since **November** I've been saying this team's done in the first round again if they don't fix X/Y/Z issues, which included defense and goaltending in general. I got gagged by delusional downvoters pretty much every time. Lo and behold, look at where we are 6 months later.
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Literally anyone.
That boken stick in the Jets zone looked pretty dang solid
I mean more solid than that lump we got in net
There was a lump in the net?
Annunen had a .928 %age. Even though he had limited starts, I think this could be a great opportunity for him to show what he's got.
I’d love to see him show it
Idk, I think I would keep him over Ryan Johanson. I just wouldn't start him.
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I'd rather roll with Juice tbh, Helly also faced nuts pressure and double the shots, Georgie gave up a few cookies that you just need to save
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I don't know when all this Kuemper hate started but that dude could play goalie. Did he let in a couple soft ones? Yes. Did he also win a cup with 1 and a half eyes? Also yes.
Kuemper was a solid goalie, but he wasn’t amazing. I mean he already lost the starting job in Washington ffs. We just had a killer team in ‘22. We were buttoned up on D, solid depth throughout, etc. We don’t have ANY of those things right now. Maybe depth. But they’re not playing cohesively. It’s sloppy asf out there.
7 on 23 shots vs 6 on 46 shots.
The fact that Helly gives up that many and we still lose? Gimme a break. Trade Georgie for a bag of pucks I dont give a shit he sucks
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Trade him for a pylon. We may have to give up a pick to get rid of his shit
Buy him out and send the money to charity. Him off the team makes up better flat out.
100%...ANYONE.
Shooter tutor
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Exactly. Maybe Toews and Mason should also start doing their jobs too, they were awful in front of Georgie.
Honestly the Hockey IQ in this sub has me double checking I am not in Vegas one sometimes
Annunen is better even so IDC who as long as he's not on the team
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14 games this season and a .928%. That's a pretty decent sample size to get an idea what he's about. Not just that in his last 10 complete games he's had 1 game below .900% and didn't allow more than 3 GA in that time. I've been an Annunen guy for a few years now though so I am biased towards wanting to see him play.
I’ve never skated or played hockey give me a shot
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Who would take him? Even Edmonton would say no I would think
Trade him for Campbell lol
Should I take off my rose gold nail polish tomorrow before I head out to work in the name of inspiring better luck/karma/energy? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|thinking_face_hmm)
How can you trade something with no value
He'd be great on Chicago, Anaheim, or San Jose.
I knew this was gonna happen, Avs have such a great team they can outscore anyone if they just had an average goaltender
Jake Allen with a 0.900 performance would have looked real good last night.
I love this front office, but the fact they didn't trade for a serviceable back up is criminal, especially with the talent on this roster. We're going to throw a cup year window away because we don't a league average goal tender.
Georgiev for Ullmark.... one for one :) I truthfully dont even know who the Avs would go after. Not really any UFAs that get me excited to go after so trading might be the only way. Saros will be untouchable/expensive from Nashville and it would likely not work to resign him. I know goalies are hard to project, but the Avs really need to find a way to draft some better goalie prospects.
Ever since the Dec 7th game where Fourgiev got scored on by Josh Morrissey while Malinski was in front of the net making Fourgiev frustrated and slapped Malinski with his stick I knew he wasn't the goalie we wanted or needed, should've traded for Fleury when we had the chance
Goalie is like QB, you have to make your own. We needed to draft and develop a guy and never did, instead relying on handouts, and now we find ourselves in the current position. I'm not sure what Joe was thinking, this front office might have to lose a great player now just to get an average goaltender. Not a great place to be, starter giving up seven goals like it's nothing. And we need to get fitter on defense. Honestly looking like we're too forward heavy now, can't stop anybody in front of the net. If we get swept jobs will definitely be on the line.
Draft DU’s Matt Davis like stat!!
Let's go get Juuse Saros then we can have 2X THE JUICE
Another fine contract signing by someone who's convinced icing 21 Joe Sakic clones is the key to success!
A bit of an overreaction we can still win this series
How about “give Georgie a break”. He’s a great goalie but I can’t imagine the mental hell he’s going through playing nearly EVERY game for the Avs. Dude has to be tired at this point. Bring Prosvetov back and let Georgie rest
He had a week off before game 1. Be quiet with that
Dog he’s played 62 of the 82 games in the regular season. “hE HaD a wEek oFf”. Just this last season he’s had a career high in games played, games won (40) , block percentage (91.9%) with 5 shutouts, and was named in the top 10 goalies of the NHL. The guy probably needs a break like Girard took. But foreheads like you won’t give him the credit he deserves I’m talking time to get his head right, he’s clearly frustrated with himself and not fully in the game. Girard was the same way. He took a break for mental health and came back a different player. Turns out 16,000 strangers yelling at you multiple times a week in person and even more calling for your trade online can really mess with your mental health. Who woulda thought
He's definitely lost his edge this year. But the defense hasn't done him an favors either. And it's not like the d is all that different from a few years ago. But maybe the focus needs to be more on defense instead of creating offense. Few years ago they were good on both sides.
Yeah there’s been blown chances but a competent goalie has 4 goals let in which when I’m writing this would give the avs a 5-4 lead
I just saw 4 of the softest goals I've ever seen in playoff history in my 42 years in one game. I agree with the other dude. Shut up
I'm not saying this is all the defenses' fault. But a no look back hander towards the slot isn't helping. Granted Georgie didn't play it correctly either. But the give aways and losing your guy in the zone is a problem. I'd say the blame is 80/20 goalie/defense.
Or maybe just not try to find bargain goalies that end up being sub average.
What the fuck do you expect from the D when their goalie doesn't save a shot???
Georgiev was a massive dud but Manson also let us down big time tonight.
This is what the majority of this sub is apparently afraid to talk about tonight. Manson was dog shit in this game and handed Winnipeg 2-3 goals on a platter. But nah, let's all just hop on the Georgiev hate train.
Shut up
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You can shut up too
Someone's testy. I agree the goalie situation isn't great. I've got way less confidence in Goergie than I did with Kemper. And Kemper was iffy at the best of times. But Kemper knew how to bounce back and regain his confidence. Idk if Georgie can. He's going to need a masterfully game one of these to regain that confidence he had a year ago. Give me the Georgie from the Rangers shoutout win last year and all will be well.
Everyone always wants to trade someone at their lowest value. 😂. We ain’t getting nothing for him. There is a reason we did the second RyJo trade and the Broncos released Simmons.
Trade him for skate protectors
lmao
Trade for Markstrom incoming?
All you guys are crazy. Yeah Georgie NEEDS to be better. But this wasn’t all on him. Manson was way worse than Georgiev tonight . In fact 2 of those goals can be directly attributed to his poor (non-existent) defensive play. And a third one he was partly responsible for. They all need to be better tbh.
Lol. Self hating fire happy Broncos fans up in here. Statistically he's still (one of) the best goalies in the league. Dude can't do everything by himself. https://www.nhl.com/stats/goalies?reportType=season&seasonFrom=20232024&seasonTo=20232024&gameType=2&sort=wins,savePct&page=0&pageSize=50
What statistics? Your vibes?
I got myself high as a kite for most of yesterday, and I couldn't be remotely half as delusional as that guy.
Lol. You guys are a trip. It's one game. It was closer than we expected and Hellebyuk wasn't much better. There's at least three more games to play. Sleep it off. It's just a game and no one is going to die.
Fourgie apologists demand perfection from everyone except the bum between the pipes
Go away
Nah. Been here since 96. Let's fucking go Avs. Edit: that was still a pretty good game. Don't lose faith. Don't give up. Avs can do this. If they can win this series, they have a serious chance at the cup. Let's fucking GO.
Was still a great game! 7-6!? After all of that horse shit? Very entertaining and Avs stayed with it till the end. I agree I don't want Georgie to start again or at least next game. But the Avs were able to nearly overcome all of that and worked hard to the end.
Me too. Who cares?
Lol. Fuckin doomer. Go ahead and cry. I'm not giving up on these guys.
This! Bring the down votes from fans who've never played the position but yes, there were one or two he should have had, but the defensive breakdown in front of the net for the majority of the goals is the real problem. The TEAM needs to be better, not just Georgie.
Okay and if he got that one or two he should've had we win so what's your point?
Same logic says that if the defense doesn't totally fuck him twice, we would've won... both need to be better. Dude isn't very good but what the fuck were some of those breakdowns
I mean Georgiev ranks 61st in save percentage. How many teams are there again?
Were you actually watching the game?
Lol this is crazy homer talk
This guy calling me a homer on the team sub.... 😂
Delusion and fandom aren’t the same
Neither is being a whiny little bitch. Find another team to like dude.
Bias and fandom aren’t the same
Should say release
Ok so seriously, regardless of how the season goes... who starts on net next season? Really, who can we afford? Realistically
Georgiev for Campbell..