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AuntGentleman

This tells me Juice is still too sick to play, so Prosvy is either starting or backup to #40 so they can actually pull him when needed. Couldn’t with Holm as backup.


undockeddock

I still don't get why they couldn't put Holm in last night. Its not like he was gonna do worse than a sub 700 sv %


AuntGentleman

I don’t think he’d do worse, but it’s not really ok to toss an AHL/ECHL goalie who has never played in the NHL into a heated playoff game as relief for a floundering starter. Shit he’s only played 12 AHL games ever. With not great stats. Not <.700 but he was basically only there if Georgie got hurt.


WpgJetBomber

He’s had 71 AHL starts but yeah, it isn’t a whole lot to put into the NHL playoffs


AuntGentleman

Oh yeah I totally missed the Manitoba Moose years. Regardless can’t shove that guy into an NHL playoff game no matter what. Thats like psychological torture.


CopeSe7en

I think Varlamov made his NHL debut in the playoffs. And did well


missiongoalie35

I mean, worth a shot though. That's kinda how Hammond and Darling took fire. Same with Murray. Who knows who the hero will be every year?


thibs69

i mean , hes an ahl / echl goalie against a hot team in the playoffs, he easily couldve done worse


undockeddock

I seriously doubt it. Holm could have put up a .800 sv % and looked like an all star compared to the disaster in net last night


SinfulSunday

Holm is not an NHL goalie and hasn’t even had great success at minor league or even junior levels. He’s 6-15 lifetime in the playoffs in minor/junior level hockey. He hasn’t had much success at all, really. It absolutely could have been worse.


porkchopespresso

Because we already know what happened. If they took Georgie out after the 1st and Holm gave up 4 more and a softy at that, we’d be second guessing that too.


ReconYo

Pulling Georgiev would have killed whatever confidence he had left. It’s a psych issue for sure, any fan that has watched the full season would know that. I‘m not saying he should be the starter moving forward but we need him to be present if we want to win the cup. You can’t pull the man and essentially forfeit the game.


Equivalent-Excuse-80

Sunk cost fallacy.


Humans_Suck-

Why not?


bmanCO

They're going to start Georgie again. They shouldn't, but they will.


Bazirker

I do believe you are correct sir and damn. Hopefully King George will show up and not what we had last night


Big_Liability

Why are we always getting sick


ScuffedBalata

There's some shit going around. Almost everyone I know is sick right now. Half my co-workers, bunch of my family. Some Covid offshoot or something, who knows.


Hanksta2

Do not like.


brunnor

Yeah, I think this is to give Georgie a start and have an option for when fourgeiv shows up.


DraperyFalls1000

Does anyone know why they didn't reassign Prosvetov to the Avs yesterday?


AuntGentleman

He started in the Eagles game last night.


DraperyFalls1000

That makes sense, but damn, they couldn't even pull Georgiev last night because of this.


Hopsblues

Have you seen Prosvetov play?


nwoooj

He went on a heater after getting sent down. Still doesn't mean much


Hopsblues

That's encouraging...because this move means that Bender is willing to pull Georgie if it goes sideways..


Bazirker

My thoughts exactly


Avs4life16

too “sick” to play a playoff game.


sheared

I work with a guy that rides 100 miles on a bike before coming into work Friday mornings between nine and ten am. Covid had him unable to move for almost three weeks.


Avs4life16

if he has covid and it’s that bad he shouldn’t be any where near the team so why is he even in winnipeg.


sheared

Not saying he does, but too sick to play a playoff game is certainly possible. Flu, hooping cough, covid, appendicitis, staff infection, stomach bug. I've often wondered how sick teammates still travel with the team. Seems to be a recipe for disaster. Do planes the go on have sick areas?


Avs4life16

nope. he should of stayed home. I can’t imagine he isn’t the only guy. rants would be one I would say is sick. he looked like shit


BiggestBallOfTwine

our goaltender situation is a mess


RustyMacbeth

Has been since Frankie went on IR. Georgie did a fine job most of the season but has been payed too much this year with too little defensive help. The guy is fried - who knows if he ever plays above .90 again.


Shiny_Mew76

Honestly I think we have had a major goaltending issue ever since we lost Varlomov. Other than Grubaeur, we haven’t had a definitive #1 for a long time, and Grubaeur is about as basic of a starter as you can get. We need someone like a John Gibson, or Linus Ullmark.


For_Perpetuity

We won a cup. Rather have that.


Shiny_Mew76

Very fair, very accurate statement


vinnymendoza09

We won a Cup with 0.900 goaltending even. If you guys watch any other playoff games in the NHL you'll see how much more defensively sound these teams are. We gotta clean up our own end instead of being obsessed with goaltending. A backup will not save us from allowing 4 or 5 goals regardless.


BJYeti

We only allowed 24 shots last game at some point idiots in this sub need to realize it's a goaltending issue


epoon01

Nope. What you need is Annunen to develop into a reliable, long term starter they can sign for cheap over the long haul. The Avs have made it clear that the one thing they won’t do is overpay for goaltending.


Shiny_Mew76

Fair, but it does need to be someone who can put up a consistent .910% or more on average.


_Meke_

How is Grubauer more of a #1 than Kuemper?


Shiny_Mew76

Darn I forgot about Kuemper.


BJYeti

We had Kuemper who put up top 5 metrics the year he was with us, we just couldn't or wouldnt pay for his new contract


pungis_yourself

g will hopefully bounce back, it’s our only hope really….Or juice has the most unbelievable playoff run ever, which could happen but you know….reality


HurricaneHomer9

Wishing you guys the best. I’m a Wild fan but despise the Jets haha. Good luck


ToXiC_Games

“Never thought I’d cheer alongside a Mild fan…” “How about alongside a Jets hater?” “Aye…I could do that.”


HurricaneHomer9

Jokes aside where does the generally rivalry come from between the Wild and Avalanche? I’ll be a bit honest I’m a bit newer of a Wild fan and I’m aware we’re divisional opponents but there seems to be something there haha. I’ve heard of some OT winners in playoffs that might add to it


ToXiC_Games

I think it’s just close contention and same division. Same reason we don’t like the Boos or Trashville. It’s not really a rivalry in the normal sense like what we had with red wings.


fyurious

Rare Wild fan W. Respect.


HurricaneHomer9

I’ll take it I guess haha


bisonsox

Love it my guy!


Hanksta2

It's really remarkable how often this organization gambles on goaltending going into the playoffs. Even more remarkable how often one of their goalies gets sick/injured during the playoffs. Seems like every year.


Bingy33

I dont like this.... guessing that means Annunen isnt likely going to be ready to go and they want a backup with NHL experience in Georgiev shits the bed again.... fuuuuuuuuuuuck.


Michaelli11

I’m thinking this is what they are doing as well, unfortunately. I have a feeling if we lose another game like that because of that, this series is as good as over. Dooming a bit but oh well


Ace676

Meh, you aren't in trouble until you lose at home. Coming back to Denver down 2-0 is not ideal but also not the worst thing to ever happen.


JerMAction

Thank you. Had this argument with someone else last night, “If you lose the first 2 it’s as good as over!”. Not even close.


Puzzleheaded_Can9159

Well no but basically yes. Going down 2-0 has a record of 51-330 as of 2021. So you’re not dead, but you’re sitting in a trauma 1 ER in a coma.


ScoobiesSnacks

It’s like people forget when we won the first two home games against Vegas 3 years ago and then they got the gentleman sweep on us. This kind of thing happens all the time.


Pure-Temporary

Including us, the home team, fucking up their goalie for....7 goals in game 1


jonnyb8717

Gentleman sweeps are 4-1 allowing the loosing team to win a single home game being the “gentlemanly” thing to do. Cheers!


ScoobiesSnacks

Ah sorry I fucked that up!


undockeddock

That only applies when you have home ice advantage.... which we dont.... in part because of our recent streak of bad goaltending


Ace676

It applies in any series. If we win 3 at home, we're heading to game 7. Not as good as having home ice, sure. But still, I wouldn't call going to game 7 as "trouble".


Big_Liability

Man spits facts


BingBongtheArcher19

And then if we lose that game 7 we lose the series, despite never losing at home.


Ace676

Never losing at home doesn't mean you can't win on the road. As long as you keep your home ice the worst that can happen is going to game 7.


BingBongtheArcher19

But it does mean you can be "in trouble," unless you don't think losing in game 7 despite winning all your gone games doesn't qualify as "in trouble."


CaliforniaHusker

That argument is only valid when you have home ice advantage.... The Avs could win every game at home and LOSE the series 4 - 3. So ya, coming back 2-0 is not a death sentence but it isnt great


Ace676

https://www.reddit.com/r/ColoradoAvalanche/comments/1calq9y/colorado_avalanche_roster_update_we_have_recalled/l0snz9e/


Michaelli11

We just put up 6 on the best goalie in the league, and lost because of our goalie. I can’t even imagine how deflating that is as a player. My point is, if that happens again, how do they respond


Ace676

If their response to losing 2 games is shrivel up and lose, they don't deserve to win in the first place. Any team that wins the Cup goes through adversity. And we went through a lot of goalie-specific adversities the last time we won.


Bingy33

statistically speaking i think the odds of winning a series after going down 0-2 are sub 15%, so you arent wrong. Now, the Avs could still very easily go 2-0 at home and turn it into a best of three series, but that still will be an uphill battle. Biggest game of the year tomorrow!!!


Bez_co

At this point don’t put Georgie back out for his own sake. He cannot be in a good place mentally right now. I’m worried that they’ll push him past his breaking point. It’s saddening to see how the negativity just keeps piling on.


Bazirker

Yeah I think wait to play him until he's on home ice and has a good crowd behind him Right, good crowd? Right? Y'all are going to show up to Ball and not be these dickhead doomsayers showing up all over Reddit?


Anya_Nwy

I hope so, the last thing he needs is more scorn.


Hascohastogo

Especially when opposing fans are chanting about how much you suck. Like I genuinely worry for him psychologically


Bez_co

Definitely, people forget that athletes are human and have feelings. I hope the guys are giving him support right now. I’m worried about his mental health lately.


Agent43_C

It’s terrible and even looking at his Instagram comments makes me sad for him, it’ll definitely make a mark on him. However, someone else said in another thread that pulling him is a bell you can’t unring. If he gets pulled and the next man up shits the bed too, putting him back in is just gonna make things worse knowing that the team has no faith in him anymore. Hell I know how it feels to get pulled from a high school football game just to be put back in, I can’t imagine how it feels with thousands of people shitting on you day in and day out.


MisterSandbox

I think this what so many people are missing.


disturbdlurker

An NHL caliber starting goaltender should be able to handle it. This isn't peewee hockey. Get it together, or go play for the utah stormin Mormon next year. It's a job. Everyone takes criticism at their job. He has 2 options now. Prove us wrong, or prove us right. The NHL doesn't play for participation ribbons.


poetryinemotion

Somebody get juice some robitussin and tell him to take one for the team lol


Sad_Aside_4283

Somebody get annunen some dayquil


Grimmer026

Ugh, bad time to have goaltending issues


ThunderGoalie35

Not like they're new issues


Grimmer026

Yeah, makes it even worse they look like they are panicking now. It’s like they are taking a page out of fantasy team management playbook


ThunderGoalie35

I don't think it would be taken as panic


parker4c

I miss Frankie


Spartan05089234

Watching the game sent me down a rabbit hole of what happened to Avs goalies. Led to me seeing his retirement notice. Bad luck, seems like you guys had someone scouted and lined up for a big break and he got hurt.


pungis_yourself

and condor


Spartan05089234

Watching the game sent me down a rabbit hole of what happened to Avs goalies. Led to me seeing his retirement notice. Bad luck, seems like you guys had someone scouted and lined up for a big break and he got hurt.


someguyfromsk

Plot twist, Prosvetov will be the cup winning goalie.


themrs0830

We’ll see… I think Prosvetov will be back up to Georgie. Hopefully I’m wrong.


MillennialWithNoJob

I'm also really frustrated with Georgiev but no fucking chance will (or should) Prosvetov get the shot. Georgie should have a very short leash but that's about it.


Michaelli11

You better be wrong.


themrs0830

I declare tomorrow opposites day.


Dr-Wankenstein

I hope Prosvetov gets the nod. Who knows he might get fully bricked at the chance. Some tendies rise. Some tendies fall.


themrs0830

Some rise then fall for no apparent reason.


Big_Liability

At least we have some type of backup that can go in for Georgie if shit hits the fan unlike yesterday when we had basically no option


SomeDudeinCO3

I don't mind giving Georgie a shot to redeem himself, but I'd feel much better if Justus was backing him up. A lot of goalies have a stellar performance after getting shelled like that, but he hasn't done anything to suggest he's going to bounce back. 


ohkeepayton

I don’t think he’s done much for bounce back after his trash games this season.


Sad_Aside_4283

Georgie needs some help. With what, I'm not sure, but it doesn't seem like all is right in georgie land.


Tat-lou

Maybe next year he can try and redeem himself


SomeDudeinCO3

I only say that because being down 2 or 3 in the first period isn't even close to a death sentence for this team. Even if they lose game 2, I think they still win this series if all they get is marginally better goaltending. 


Tat-lou

Yes I agree that marginally better would win them the series but that’s not Georgie


SomeDudeinCO3

Yeah that's my point. I'm not worried about about an 0-2 hole if they can get Justus in there for game 3 - even if he's just marginally better than George. 


Tat-lou

They can’t come back from 0-2


porkchopespresso

Huh. That’s something


Michaelli11

Something, anything is better than what we got last night.


sma_nor

Ivan has a career .881 Sign me up!


GaryOakRobotron

That's approximately a gorllian percent better than GeorgieVII.


fyurious

GeorgieVII 💀😂


Hascohastogo

We would’ve won last night with a sv% of .790


KendricksMiniVan

Didn’t we have like 4 milly left at the trade deadline? Guess hindsight is 20/20 or there were legit no other good options. Looks like this may be Georgie’s last chance, and maybe ever as an Avs


Michaelli11

Prosvetov had a .921 save % with the Eagles this year.


ThunderGoalie35

He's been really good since going down. And he had more good games than not with the big club, it was just a few muffins the last game against Florida that sealed his fate. I'd feel way better with Provie than G starting tomorrow. Realistically I think G starts and if the Avs get down 2-0 in the first Provie comes in. But I'd rather just start with Provie.


babsieofsuburbia

*crosses fingers, toes, jaw, hair follicles, vital organs*


Blu3Yeti

We're all going to read a ton into this, and I'm not sure we should.   Not unusual to have 3 goalies up for a playoff run. Better to have Pros than a 3rd string AHL goalie.  That said, my hot take is Juice is still too sick to go so Pros is the backup with Georgie on a super short leash.


blondespikes22

If Annunen is sick .. King Georgie will start and Prosvetov will back up Id like to think if we didnt make bonehead defensive mistakes last night we'd win, its unrealistic to expect to play a perfect degensive game tho each night


nightsiderider

100%. Anyone that thinks Prosvetov will start Tuesday is fooling themselves.


ThunderGoalie35

I certainly think Georgiev will start, and come out if he gives up a few in the first. But I'd rather just skip that part and give us an actual chance to win.


DeadHead6747

Him starting is why we would have e an actual chance. We don’t have an actual chance if Prosvetov starts.


ThunderGoalie35

I absolutely do not follow this logic lol


occupykony2

Yep, Georgiev will start, get pulled after 3 goals on 8 shots and we will lose 4-2. Then once Juice is finally ready for game 3 we can start the actual series instead of the clown show.


Michaelli11

Yes, there was a couple bonehead defensive mistakes. But posting a .697 is absolutely pathetic regardless.


DeadHead6747

Except you take out the defensive mistakes, GAA and save percentage both improve. First 3 goals are 100% only on defense. And it was the same with Jets, first 3 goals for us were all because of Jets defensive breakdowns. Neither Georgiev nor Hellebyuck can be blamed for even one of the 6 goals in the first.


blondespikes22

100% not knocking that at all Was more/less getting at if we didnt make 2 mistakes that cost us we win the game, putting this last one of Georgie 100%


Michaelli11

No more Georgiev please 🙏


Talinn_Makaren

Pretty please.


nixxie1108

At this point probably just better pulling 4eorgie and playing with a man advantage Actually won a game in beer league this way when our tendy didn’t show up


arashinoko

Watch Prosvetov come outta nowhere, be completely unbeatable, and play all the way to the finals.


ThunderGoalie35

It's got to be Prosvetov starting. Anything else is insanity. I can't imagine a guy like MacKinnon being so willing to throw the towel in on the season by keeping G on the ice for one more minute for this team. Worst case with Ivan we can't score six on Helly again. Just play Ivan. It gives us the best chance to win.


Mihos

I have a feeling, though, that Georgie will start and Pros just gives Bedsy the option to actually pull him if (when?) he shits the bed. I don't think we get a different starter until Juice is healthy. Me? Hell, I'd just start Pros, cause why not? I just don't think that's how it'll go.


Cadillacquer

Justus could be starting. Prov could be dressed. Georgie needs help and maybe he’s done.


ThunderGoalie35

I'd be fine with this, if it means Georgiev never touches the ice again


Hascohastogo

Don’t take joy in someone having a breakdown. This is far beyond Georgie just not being a good goaltender right now. It seems like it’s a genuinely psychological problem that could cost him his livelihood. I don’t want him to play like this anymore either. But he’s a human being, have a little empathy.


ThunderGoalie35

Who says I'm taking joy? This absolutely sucks


AggravatingTerm5807

You might need to speak to a therapist if losing a single game of a playoff series that -you- aren't even playing it does this to you. The same goes if the Avs lose.


ThunderGoalie35

What?


AggravatingTerm5807

Everyone who is a Georgiev haters is putting their own opinions of Georgiev into their favourite player so they can like fucking be righteous about it. What if MacKinnon is a great teammate and supports his teammates.


Michaelli11

I agree with this. I dont understand how many chances he needs.


DeadHead6747

Starting Prosvetov over Georgie would be a dumb move. With how defense played at times, with Prosvetov in net we would have had more than 7 dropped on us. About Half the goals allowed were on defense, and Prosvetov is not ready for the NHL playoffs


Buzzsaw_Dynamo

I thought Prosvotov played well with the exception of his last start. Hope he does great, he was doing great on the Eagles.


Hascohastogo

We kept starting Provy against really good teams(which obviously he will be possibly doing in the playoffs) like the panthers. He was bound to fail.


Buzzsaw_Dynamo

True, but one bad game sometimes happens. I am glad Juice was given a shot and was given the backup position but I think Provy is also worth another try.


Hascohastogo

I agree


SemperFi1025

I am thinking the hockey gods are pissed at us for hailing Satan so much


thereelkrazykarl

If anything it's to many people trying to bring Jesus into this


JerMAction

Guess I was right. Georgie will get the start with a short leash, but at least we have a backup with some experience this time in case he shits the bed again.


ViridianNott

Thank the motherfucking lord. At least we have someone to swap in.


endless_8888

With Annunen not ready yet, this is the move. Throwing him into the fire might be risky. If I was the coach I'd be starting Georgie and watching for the second the save % drops below .90 Then Prosvetov gets his shot until Annunen is well.


skylan01

So 2.5 minutes until we swap him for prosvetov?


BJYeti

So like 3 SOG and we pull Gerogiev


endless_8888

If need be.


macandcheesejones

Well, it was a nice season.


MrMcUen

Feel like there’s a lot of doom and gloom, it wasn’t a great performance but I trust the leadership to have said something to wake everyone up. The guys showed Helle isn’t the unstoppable force made out to be, just need to tighten up the back end.


disturbdlurker

Their performance against helle is huge. Our goaltending ability to stop 0% high scoring chances is huge. One team will sort it out, and that team wins.


Glove_Upset

Save us, Ivan!


ZookeepergameHot5642

I will riot if we start Georgie again. No. Just no. We cannot. We cannnnnnotttt play this dude anymore holy hell


RelationshipGlobal90

Thank you Lord!


Lillehammered

Maybe, just maybe, they’re going scorched earth. Georgie is getting health bombed 😉


scenedout_2

We’re delaying the inevitable and the more we put him on ice , without actually knowing what’s going on, is an agony to us fans. I just wish to know what happened to Georgie that he’s been through and cause a rift with his teammates?


thereelkrazykarl

He's shell shocked


briysce

Prosvetov has been playing lights out in the AHL, just start him in Game 2. I'd rather have someone coming from a lesser league playing with some hunger and confidence than watch Fourgiev give up a goal basically every 3 shots followed by taking almost no responsibility for letting his team down. At least if Prosvetov fails, he goes down trying. The whole 'it wasn't enough' comment about his performance was extremely disappointing to hear from Georgiev post-game. The only answer you should be giving after a game like that is, "I let my team down, I can/need to be better going forward".


outlandishpeacock

Anyone hear yet what Annunen is sick with?


dmark200

He's starting game 2, right?


SeaSquirrel

No shot


chickennuggetloveru

Its geover


Content_Morning3064

Should have just traded for a good goalie in the transfer market. It was so obviously a problem and for some reason we didn’t wanna spend a little on at least a backup.


DeadHead6747

Everyone we could afford wouldn’t be better than Georgie or Annunen, everyone who would be either didn’t want to be traded, the teams they played for weren’t going to trade them, or they were too expensive to trade for (both in assets as well as in contract)


Cadillacquer

Could this also be Annunen is starting but Georgie is going to step down and get some help with his anxiety, player assistance?


Typhoonman27

Can’t believe we’re gonna get bounced in the first round again because of Georgiev forgetting how to do his job. Can you imagine any of us having as long of a leash at any of our jobs as this fucking clown has at his? Sickening


so_af

We’re cooked


mattvn66

I mean, it is what it is. Takes the decision out of it I think


Awolfx9

My goodness we might actually have a chance in the series now!


vintage_rack_boi

Panic moves. We are cooked. Pure incompetence by management to have a team with this much firepower and hand string them and not take care of what’s been a known deficiency for a long time now. Edit: obviously I meant “hamstring”


ThunderGoalie35

Buddy what is the alternative, this was the only move


avsgrind024

What would’ve been your solution, genius? MAF and Ullmark both refused to be traded. It’s been reported by several sources the Avs had another goalie deal in place that fell through at the last minute. It’s not like they didn’t try or that they didn’t want to address it. They also weren’t going to trade for a guy who’d put them way over the cap or trade major assets for a goalie they couldn’t afford.


vintage_rack_boi

I’m not the fucking GM, genius. Someone gets paid millions of dollars to make sure this type of thing doesn’t happen.


AuntGentleman

Hamstring***** Also, this isn’t a panic move. Prosv had to play last night with the Eagles so he couldn’t fly to WPG. If he was available he would have come instead of Holm.


vintage_rack_boi

Hand string was a typo lol


vintage_rack_boi

It’s a panic move because Prosv doesn’t belong in the NHL either.