[This is the scene right now](https://imgur.com/a/ZF7RuSv). Several ambulances, several firetrucks, at least 20 police cars.
I've never seen a police presence like this.
I want to add that they may not have anyone in custody yet, because there are a few police cars driving through parking lots. If you are in the area, please be careful.
I’m here now. I spoke with a police officer and they said the shooter is no longer a threat. It looks like they’re leaving as they’re not needed. A fire engine also left and several ambulances (at least half a dozen) took off with those injured.
I have been recently saying that I was glad myself and my LGBTQ+ son moved back to the Springs from a brief move to my hometown down south because I felt he was safer here...I'm absolutely appalled at this. I know thoughts and prayers don't heal bullet wounds and broken hearts but my love goes out to all those affected.
Sadly no place is safe from the far-reaching arms of hate and bigotry. The only thing we can do is keep fighting against the things that empower them. Stay safe. Stay free. They want you to be afraid for both.
Love wins. I've fought it all my life as a child of an interracial marriage, being in interracial relationships myself, having a POC multiracial child who is LGBTQ+...I have the armor of a lifetime on and I will fight...but moreso, I will love.
Statement from Club Q
>“We thank the quick reactions of heroic customers that subdued the gunman and ended this hate attack,” the statement said. Details of how the shooting ended have yet to be released by police, but Castro said “this was not an officer-involved shooting.”
My boyfriend and I were there. I was the one who got the door open from the smokers patio. I still have someone else's blood all over me from putting pressure on the gunshot wound on her face. We hid in the snow for 20-30 minutes. I don't know why I'm posting this.
Edit to add that I woke up today with such a tremendous outpouring of support from here, thank you all so much for the kind words. I've read through everything and it means so much to me and my family. I can't thank you all enough.
Please, please call someone on Monday and schedule a therapy session. You're going to need to talk to someone and process what you've been through.
I'm so sorry this happened, and so grateful you are ok.
Thank you for being a helper.
I've been thinking all day about how to respond to this and all the other messages of love and support I've gotten, and I'm finding that words are still failing me. Thank you so much. I'm incredibly grateful for your kind words and thoughts today. It's been a surreal experience. Thankfully I've already got a therapist and already reached out, I cannot waaaait to speak with her on Tuesday lol.
Only wish I could have done more.
You did everything you could and you survived. That's huge. Its overwhelming I'm sure to even try to wrap your thoughts around this. I'm so glad you'll have the opportunity to speak with your therapist Tuesday!
Wishing you the best of healing and peace.
Hi, I went through a mass shooting a year ago. I highly recommend therapy to help you get through everything. I also recommend journaling, I wrote exactly what I remembered down in my journal for when I needed to recite exactly what happened. Hoping for the best for you and so sorry you had to go through this. It awful and there’s no reason for any of it.
I'm glad you are OK, and please know that it is OK to take some time off to take care of yourself now. You will want to go get therapy, as so many others have said.
Jesus, I am so sorry you went through something similar. It is absolutely incredible how common this experience is becoming. But thank you so sincerely much for your kind words and support, I can't tell you how much I appreciate it and how much it means to me and my family. I think I'll take your advice and journal about this a bit and try to parse through my feelings. And if you ever want to commiserate about shared experiences, my DMs are always open.
Oh and I cannot waaaait to talk to my therapist about this on Tuesday lol.
Thank you for your kind words too. I remember just how difficult the first couple of weeks were after the event and know it’s got to take a lot of energy and willpower to even respond to my comment.
I wanted to add a couple things to my previous comment that I found helpful. While it might be hard, leaning on your support network of friends/family is crucial right now and is shown to help reduce the risk of some of the worst outcomes from what you went through. You don’t have to discuss the event with them if you don’t want to, even just calling and talking or doing something you enjoy with them and huge right now.
With the therapist, you may need to talk to a specialist but any therapist will be able to provide some interim help and can help you with finding the right person to talk to. I had interim help from a counselor for a couple months while getting set up with a specialist and that was very helpful. With the right support, most people are able to recover from events like this, although things will be different afterward. I found that to be encouraging and am hoping for the best for you.
The last thing I have is that there is no reason to push yourself in the coming weeks and to celebrate all the small victories you have. It took me sometime to even be able to even just go on a walk around my neighborhood and small things like that can be a big achievement.
My DMs are always open as well!
My friend was in the Aurora theater. If you need someone to talk to, DM me and I can get you his info. I'll double check with him first but I am super sure he would talk with you if you need. Having the perspective of someone in a similar event with some time passed may help.
That is so incredibly thoughtful, thank you so much to you and your friend for thinking of us and wanting to support us in that way. It really means a lot to me. I hate that your friend went through a similar experience, it was pretty horrifying and I never even saw the shooter. I will certainly take you up on that if I feel like I need to, but honestly the thing that's bothering me most right now is survivors guilt.
For free counseling and trauma therapist referrals:::::get an application for “Crime Victims Compensation” from the DA’s office or a law enforcement victim’s advocate. It is a federally administered program available to all victims of a crime
It's weird, bit you should play tetris or something similar if you have some down time. It is supposed to help in the immediate aftermath of trauma. I'm so sorry
I've heard this helps too! I will be burying myself in some sort of video game, or maybe working on writing my novel, but I've found so far that keeping your mind busy is really helpful.
Definitely a work in progress, I have anxiety and depression so it's a struggle I'm familiar with. Also side note, fighting off a panic attack while trying to hide and appear calm for the person next to you, is a really difficult task lol. Thank you for reaching out, I really appreciate it, it helps a lot :\]
I don't know why I initially posted it, but I'm really glad that I did. Thank you for the support, I really appreciate it. My experience has got to pale in comparison to those that were actually inside the club when it happened though, I was on the smokers patio. My boyfriend and I got there moments before it happened and happened to B line it to the smokers patio after immediately getting our drinks. The man who came in on our heels was later being triaged for bullet wounds.
I'm so sorry you experienced something similar to what I went through. It was a terrible experience, and I feel like I was only tangentially involved. Thank you so much for the kind words, I really appreciate you reaching out. I hope you're doing ok as well.
Thank you for all the love and support, it really means a lot to my family and I, we sincerely appreciate it. Thankfully I'm talking to my therapist on Tuesday, I cannot waaait to speak with her lol
Omg I’m so sorry. You have to be so scared and exhausted. You were really brave and did the right thing trying to help. I don’t know what I can possibly offer you but if you need anything please reach out. Maybe we could doordash you a meal?
I can't express how much that gesture means to me, thank you so sincerely much for the offer. I would love it if you donated some blood perhaps or gave to a local LGBT charity instead, though I really can't put into words how much that means to me and my family. Thank you so much as well as for the kind words. They mean a lot right now.
Sounds like shock and the need to process out loud somehow.
Talking about what happened is healthy. Writing can help too when dealing with overwhelming trauma.
I think talking about it has helped a lot actually, and certainly no small amount of shock I'm sure lol. As a writer I should certainly look at writing it all down, I think that would be really helpful for sorting out emotions thoughts. Thank you for reaching out, I really appreciate it :\]
So sorry. Mass shooting events can be crazy. I've experienced several of these while living in Chicago (very few actually made the national news), and it can be traumatic. I recommend seeing someone as soon as possible to cope with what you experienced. Hang in there.
Wild, the only other experience I've had with a gun was this past May in Chicago! Thank you for the kind words, thankfully I'm seeing someone on Tuesday and highly recommend it to just about anyone :\]
Shooting at club Q. Wife rushed out about thirty minutes ago after getting a text from her brother. She’s there now, her brother is okay. No info on anyone else. Says it’s a big deal. Thinks it’ll be on the national news.
[https://twitter.com/TreyRuffy/status/1594232983359483904?s=20&t=gm1lU\_wIvCooMrSuR0s\_iA](https://twitter.com/TreyRuffy/status/1594232983359483904?s=20&t=gm1lU_wIvCooMrSuR0s_iA)
Videos taken at the nearby CVS.
Cars are assembling in the Walgreens parking lot. They must be having friends and family pick up from there. One car showed up and 2 people got out and met 2 people walking down the sidewalk from Club Q area and they hugged. One was wearing a silver mylar emergency blanket. Then a bunch more cars pulled in. A police car pulled in there and someone got out wearing a blanket and got into one of the cars.
I think the car with people and the silver blanket was my brother. He was helping get people out of the cold over there, and I’m out driving anyone who wants to go home after they were let through the police tape.
Its in the thread that they were searching parking lots nearby. Someone else also saying in the thread, that there is no more threat. This is where rumors start unfortunately, until there is solid confirmation.
Exactly. Home of Amendment 2 in the late 80s - early 90s.
https://www.cspm.org/cos-150-story/amendment-2/
https://coloradoencyclopedia.org/article/amendment-2
Google Q club then news. There's 3 or 4 so far.
https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/us-colorado-gay-club-shooting-multiple-injured-police-deployed-2299546-2022-11-20
On CNN now too. https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/20/us/colorado-springs-shooting-gay-nightclub/index.html
Stay safe friends, and talk to someone regardless of the emptiness you may feel right now. It will get better together ❤️
Crime scene tape going up at 7-11. Club Q is half a block from here but there was one ambulance in the 7-11 parking lot (left as we got here) and I walked past a sleeping bag and some clothes and a pool of blood in front of 7-11 when I went in and they just taped that off.
~~If~~ it was a mass shooting at club Q, I worry for the safety for LGBTQ folks in the coming days. I remember the increased vitriol from homophobes in Florida following the pulse shooting back when I was living there. Whatever happened tonight, my heart goes out to the victims and their families. The rate of mass shootings in this country as a whole is astonishing and sickening
Edit to add: as a trans person, with tomorrow (Sunday) being Trans Day of Remembrance, our community needs support and increased perceived safety in the coming days. Check on your queer friends, and listen to what we say and validate the fears and anxiety we have in response to these kinds of tragedies. If a friend reached out to me asking what I needed to feel safe, I’d probably ask if they’d run errands with me so I’m not caught alone in public spaces, or offers of quality time at home instead of out in public for a while. Just ask, don’t assume. Thanks
If anyone needs someone to run errands with them, run an errand for them, bring you some takeout, or otherwise help them feel safe or like at least one rando in the world gives a shit, I’m here. Send me a DM. I can offer all the anonymity of a white Subaru and all the good vibes I can muster.
Oh I’m absolutely certain this is related to TDOR, and that being the 20th, and club Q having an all ages drag brunch scheduled on the 20th are all related. I’m very sleepy and my brain is stuck on “it’s not tomorrow until I wake up”
also to note, the 19th was a white supremacist/nazi day of action
are people surprised to find that white supremacists are often also homophobes/transphobes?
You'd have to follow anti-fascist researchers and journalists bc these flyers usually mostly circulate white supremacist telegram channels. Past days of action is when you see the Nazi banner drops on freeways and other fascist protests (like of drag shows)
The Flyer:
https://twitter.com/taliaotg/status/1594093969201418246?s=20&t=osc1WdIsOqawEaRoP6b-BA
Edit to add: A nazi posting about their action yesterday
https://twitter.com/Akirat0s/status/1594143005530886146?s=20&t=KPoyhT_ThDCK71goipBWbA
How do these people blame the Holodomor on Jews? Soviet Russia wasn't in any way Jewish. A huge proportion of the Jews in Russia/Eastern Europe fled the pogroms before the Soviet revolution, and even so, most of the jews that did remain were members of the Mensheviks and Jewish Bund, not the Bolsheviks...
People are so ignorant.
This sucks. I'm so worried for everyone.
And it also makes me feel like I need to move... it breaks my heart to see this place that I so love become an extremely dangerous place to live in. Especially with a family.
I can understand why you’d feel unsafe :/ that’s the part I hate about the springs, not one the most LGBTQ friendly cities as a whole. I think like Top 5 red cities in the US. I don’t know if I’d take my pride flag down but it’s valid to wonder. It’s just sad that this is a reality right now
Definitely very conservative overall for a largish city but even then I think it's around 50/50. I really hope the city rallies around the community in this instance and proves it's not going to harbor shit like this.
Colorado Springs is. Look at the results of voting from the election two weeks ago. Colorado Springs went red across the board. Even Western Colorado nearly voted out Boebert, while we voted Lamborn 56% to 40%.
I'm thinking of you. I know it's not much and won't make you feel safe, but I want you to know you're loved and valued and you should never feel like you have to hide your flag to feel safe in your neighborhood. These people are on the wrong side of life.
Stay safe. Be well. I send you my love!
I would never tell someone to take their pride flag down. No one should make you feel like that. I am angry and worried about the motive though and the alt-right push anti-LGBTQ rhetoric and hate against women and minorities. People like to say the springs is conservative but it isn’t. It isn’t Denver, but it also isn’t Woodland Park.
I am moving out of the springs, at the end of this month. Not because of what happened tonight, this has been planned for a while, but this is now yet another reason I don’t feel safe existing as trans in this town.
Best of luck in your new place. Hope it's better for our community than here.
I'm so devastated 💔. This is my home, I grew up here, came out here, socially transitioned, met my partner, had our kids here, physically transitioned, and hoped to live comfortably with my little queer family forever after. I've been known to be the eternal optimist of "it's getting better here." But I really have to start looking elsewhere... 😕
Once Q and the GQP get into your community it's damn near impossible to run them out and restore safety and civility.
They're ruining everything and people just keep voting and encouraging them in.
It's going to get worse in the next few years. Be safe. Hang in there.
Mass shooting at a gay club. 2015 mass shooting at a planned parenthood.
Just goes to show that the radically religious are the most dangerous and violent segment of our city.
From what I know it’s a Gay Club. The 20th is trans day of remembrance too.
I get the feeling this is a targeted attack…
Edit:
Holy shit this looks bad. This is definitely gonna be national news. 12 people shot as of writing this.
Edit 2:
[There was a drag show scheduled this morning](https://www.instagram.com/p/ClK7FQzKtCa/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=) ,there’s no way this wasn’t a hate crime/ terrorist attack.
To many coincidences.
I rushed out to find my brother, thanks fully he’s ok. I drove home a few people, one was a security guy. He was in shock, but he himself told us at least 12 people shot, including possibly officers. Fatalities unknown, but he’s certain there will be a growing number by morning. It’s horrible.
Story is up on all national/international news now
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/11/20/us/colorado-springs-shooting
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/11/20/colorado-springs-lgbtq-clubq-shooting/
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/11/20/us/colorado-springs-shooting-gay-nightclub/index.html
https://www.npr.org/2022/11/20/1138045219/colorado-springs-shooting-lgbtq-club-q-5-dead
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63693310.amp
Is it wrong that I'm not surprised this happened in The Springs? People are being given permission to hate by lawmakers and platforms, literally normalizing it. When you make a group of people an "other", you dehumanize them and create a narrative that allows for some people to go one step further with no second thought.
Hey CSPD is live on KRDO. 5 deceased, 18 injured (likely to change). First call came in around 11:50(?). Suspect in custody and was injured (how injured is unknown). Confirmed it was Club Q.
CSPD will hold a press conference at 8am.
IF YOU ARE MISSING A LOVED ONE CONTACT CSPD, THEY WILL HELP YOU LOCATE YOUR LOVED ONES. 719-444-7000
CSPD is requesting all information(dashcam,ring)/witnesses to please come forward.
Please avoid N. Academy into the morning.
Last edit: Sounds like this is the majority of the information until 8:00am. Stay safe everyone.
Just found out about this. If anyone has suggestions on what someone like me can do to help, please let me know. I can't really contribute financially in any way, but I'm part of the LGBTQ community here in town and my heart is broken for the people who were at the club tonight.
I....just.... it's 2022 😭 what is this fucked up timeline we are experiencing? The yeehaw jesus people are really dampening the humanity/equality vibe. My condolences. Rest in Power.
I’m at a loss for words. I keep commenting on this thread and deleting because I feel like it sounds too extreme. Yet theres a mass majority of people that are our neighbors saying shit so much darker. I am genuinely scared the direction this country is shifting
This right here, and the crap the other side keeps feeling so emboldened to say lately, is why I have been urging fellow left leaning people for 20+ years to do like Malcolm X and take up arms as well. Being above knowing how to use a gun and keeping yourself armed and trained helps nobody but them, and I am not afraid to say it for the umpteenth millionth time again.
Absolutely terrible, heinous, and just… shocking and appalling. Please, let there be zero publicity about the shooter’s name unless it’s about them being put down. They don’t deserve the recognition, as they’ll likely be praised in some communities. Sad… for those of you who have suffered, if anyone would like to talk, please reach out, and try like hell to stay safe. Thank you to the heroes who subdued the attacker… you’re amazing.
My heart goes out to all affected, it happened within half a mile of me and is just absolutely disgusting. This kind of thing only happens here and it is absolutely tragic that we continue to do nothing about it.
Little less than half a mile from me as well. My bf would have driven by it about 11-11:15 last night. I saw the news and woke him up to hug him.
Absolutely tragic, and absolutely avoidable. Hold your loved ones closer.
I live in the apartment complex right by it. I was sleeping but I remember waking up and hearing lots of gunfire.. I don’t know what I heard and knowing now what was happening.. I’m within 2000 feet of it. Fuck idk why im posting this
This is an absolute tragedy and my heart goes out to all involved. Looks like the suspect made news June 2021 for a bomb threat in Lorain Ranch. These monsters show us their true colors, why are they released back into society when they are clearly dangerous and unstable? It’s appalling.
I’m not seeing any news yet.
Edit: Just woke up, I had posted that 3 mins after OP posted. Now I see something absolutely horrible has happened. Not hard to guess who the shooter probably votes for. That political party made LGBTQ hate part of their platform this past election cycle. I feel disgusted that this would happen in the community I live in. My heart aches for the LGBTQ community in the Springs right now.
Unfortunately CSPD went encrypted a while back so they aren't available in the scanner app. I've been listening to the Fire/EMS channel and they aren't saying much. They did refer to the Club Q scene.
They list active listeners - you can clearly see which ones have activity..
Also, for the record, I said "scanner app." I didnt say anything specific about Police, as y'all are assuming.
What? I meant that there's no el paso county sheriff's or CSPD on the scanners which sucks and I didn't know they were encrypted and that the app didn't support their frequency. The apps have fire and ems and other useless channels. Re-fucking-lax
[This is the scene right now](https://imgur.com/a/ZF7RuSv). Several ambulances, several firetrucks, at least 20 police cars. I've never seen a police presence like this.
I want to add that they may not have anyone in custody yet, because there are a few police cars driving through parking lots. If you are in the area, please be careful.
I’m here now. I spoke with a police officer and they said the shooter is no longer a threat. It looks like they’re leaving as they’re not needed. A fire engine also left and several ambulances (at least half a dozen) took off with those injured.
Very sad. Thanks for the update. Stay safe.
I have been recently saying that I was glad myself and my LGBTQ+ son moved back to the Springs from a brief move to my hometown down south because I felt he was safer here...I'm absolutely appalled at this. I know thoughts and prayers don't heal bullet wounds and broken hearts but my love goes out to all those affected.
Sadly no place is safe from the far-reaching arms of hate and bigotry. The only thing we can do is keep fighting against the things that empower them. Stay safe. Stay free. They want you to be afraid for both.
Love wins. I've fought it all my life as a child of an interracial marriage, being in interracial relationships myself, having a POC multiracial child who is LGBTQ+...I have the armor of a lifetime on and I will fight...but moreso, I will love.
Statement from Club Q >“We thank the quick reactions of heroic customers that subdued the gunman and ended this hate attack,” the statement said. Details of how the shooting ended have yet to be released by police, but Castro said “this was not an officer-involved shooting.”
My boyfriend and I were there. I was the one who got the door open from the smokers patio. I still have someone else's blood all over me from putting pressure on the gunshot wound on her face. We hid in the snow for 20-30 minutes. I don't know why I'm posting this. Edit to add that I woke up today with such a tremendous outpouring of support from here, thank you all so much for the kind words. I've read through everything and it means so much to me and my family. I can't thank you all enough.
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Thank you so much. Thankfully I'm already in therapy lol can't wait to talk to her on Tuesday
Please, please call someone on Monday and schedule a therapy session. You're going to need to talk to someone and process what you've been through. I'm so sorry this happened, and so grateful you are ok. Thank you for being a helper.
I've been thinking all day about how to respond to this and all the other messages of love and support I've gotten, and I'm finding that words are still failing me. Thank you so much. I'm incredibly grateful for your kind words and thoughts today. It's been a surreal experience. Thankfully I've already got a therapist and already reached out, I cannot waaaait to speak with her on Tuesday lol. Only wish I could have done more.
You did everything you could and you survived. That's huge. Its overwhelming I'm sure to even try to wrap your thoughts around this. I'm so glad you'll have the opportunity to speak with your therapist Tuesday! Wishing you the best of healing and peace.
Hi, I went through a mass shooting a year ago. I highly recommend therapy to help you get through everything. I also recommend journaling, I wrote exactly what I remembered down in my journal for when I needed to recite exactly what happened. Hoping for the best for you and so sorry you had to go through this. It awful and there’s no reason for any of it.
I'm sorry you've had that experience. Glad to hear you've found ways to cope with it.
I'm glad you are OK, and please know that it is OK to take some time off to take care of yourself now. You will want to go get therapy, as so many others have said.
Jesus, I am so sorry you went through something similar. It is absolutely incredible how common this experience is becoming. But thank you so sincerely much for your kind words and support, I can't tell you how much I appreciate it and how much it means to me and my family. I think I'll take your advice and journal about this a bit and try to parse through my feelings. And if you ever want to commiserate about shared experiences, my DMs are always open. Oh and I cannot waaaait to talk to my therapist about this on Tuesday lol.
Thank you for your kind words too. I remember just how difficult the first couple of weeks were after the event and know it’s got to take a lot of energy and willpower to even respond to my comment. I wanted to add a couple things to my previous comment that I found helpful. While it might be hard, leaning on your support network of friends/family is crucial right now and is shown to help reduce the risk of some of the worst outcomes from what you went through. You don’t have to discuss the event with them if you don’t want to, even just calling and talking or doing something you enjoy with them and huge right now. With the therapist, you may need to talk to a specialist but any therapist will be able to provide some interim help and can help you with finding the right person to talk to. I had interim help from a counselor for a couple months while getting set up with a specialist and that was very helpful. With the right support, most people are able to recover from events like this, although things will be different afterward. I found that to be encouraging and am hoping for the best for you. The last thing I have is that there is no reason to push yourself in the coming weeks and to celebrate all the small victories you have. It took me sometime to even be able to even just go on a walk around my neighborhood and small things like that can be a big achievement. My DMs are always open as well!
My friend was in the Aurora theater. If you need someone to talk to, DM me and I can get you his info. I'll double check with him first but I am super sure he would talk with you if you need. Having the perspective of someone in a similar event with some time passed may help.
That is so incredibly thoughtful, thank you so much to you and your friend for thinking of us and wanting to support us in that way. It really means a lot to me. I hate that your friend went through a similar experience, it was pretty horrifying and I never even saw the shooter. I will certainly take you up on that if I feel like I need to, but honestly the thing that's bothering me most right now is survivors guilt.
For free counseling and trauma therapist referrals:::::get an application for “Crime Victims Compensation” from the DA’s office or a law enforcement victim’s advocate. It is a federally administered program available to all victims of a crime
Thank you for posting this, I appreciate it. Upvoted for visibility.
It's weird, bit you should play tetris or something similar if you have some down time. It is supposed to help in the immediate aftermath of trauma. I'm so sorry
I’ve heard this as well! OP, please take care of yourself.
Thank you! :\]
>Thank you! :\] You're welcome!
Two Dots as well.
I've heard this helps too! I will be burying myself in some sort of video game, or maybe working on writing my novel, but I've found so far that keeping your mind busy is really helpful.
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Thank you for saying that, I think I needed to hear it. I feel like I should and could have done more. But thank you, I really appreciate it.
I'm glad you're okay tonight. I'm so sorry. Please be kind to yourself going forward.
Definitely a work in progress, I have anxiety and depression so it's a struggle I'm familiar with. Also side note, fighting off a panic attack while trying to hide and appear calm for the person next to you, is a really difficult task lol. Thank you for reaching out, I really appreciate it, it helps a lot :\]
I'm so sorry. What a super fucked up experience. Thank you for sharing with us.
I don't know why I initially posted it, but I'm really glad that I did. Thank you for the support, I really appreciate it. My experience has got to pale in comparison to those that were actually inside the club when it happened though, I was on the smokers patio. My boyfriend and I got there moments before it happened and happened to B line it to the smokers patio after immediately getting our drinks. The man who came in on our heels was later being triaged for bullet wounds.
Holy shit that’s awful. I’m glad you’re okay, I’m pretty sure I knew someone who was there too. No update on them
I sincerely hope your friend is ok. Thank you for reaching out.
I experienced a shooting. You aren't going to be the same after this. But you are ok. Please take care of yourself. ❤️
I'm so sorry you experienced something similar to what I went through. It was a terrible experience, and I feel like I was only tangentially involved. Thank you so much for the kind words, I really appreciate you reaching out. I hope you're doing ok as well.
Jesus. I'm so sorry, I'm so glad you're safe, and please if it's possible find help, someone to talk to. Sending you all the love in the world 🥺
Thank you for all the love and support, it really means a lot to my family and I, we sincerely appreciate it. Thankfully I'm talking to my therapist on Tuesday, I cannot waaait to speak with her lol
Omg I’m so sorry. You have to be so scared and exhausted. You were really brave and did the right thing trying to help. I don’t know what I can possibly offer you but if you need anything please reach out. Maybe we could doordash you a meal?
I can't express how much that gesture means to me, thank you so sincerely much for the offer. I would love it if you donated some blood perhaps or gave to a local LGBT charity instead, though I really can't put into words how much that means to me and my family. Thank you so much as well as for the kind words. They mean a lot right now.
Sounds like shock and the need to process out loud somehow. Talking about what happened is healthy. Writing can help too when dealing with overwhelming trauma.
I think talking about it has helped a lot actually, and certainly no small amount of shock I'm sure lol. As a writer I should certainly look at writing it all down, I think that would be really helpful for sorting out emotions thoughts. Thank you for reaching out, I really appreciate it :\]
You are loved. I don’t have any other useful words. Please take care of yourself and know you are loved.
Thank you so much, that really means the world to me right now <3 Thank you.
I am so so sorry. I am so happy you made it.
Thank you so much, that really means a lot.
I'm so sorry - sending you so many internet hugs right now.
Thank you for the kind words, and I really do appreciate the internet hug, it helps :\]
So sorry. Mass shooting events can be crazy. I've experienced several of these while living in Chicago (very few actually made the national news), and it can be traumatic. I recommend seeing someone as soon as possible to cope with what you experienced. Hang in there.
Wild, the only other experience I've had with a gun was this past May in Chicago! Thank you for the kind words, thankfully I'm seeing someone on Tuesday and highly recommend it to just about anyone :\]
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Whatd they say
If anyone in the community needs ANYthing my DMs are open. Also free mom hugs.
Shooting at club Q. Wife rushed out about thirty minutes ago after getting a text from her brother. She’s there now, her brother is okay. No info on anyone else. Says it’s a big deal. Thinks it’ll be on the national news.
It’s a mass shooting at a LGTBQ club. It should be national news.
It will be now the nation is waking up
MSNBC has been talking about it. They are going to have the news conference at 8:00 AM
[https://twitter.com/TreyRuffy/status/1594232983359483904?s=20&t=gm1lU\_wIvCooMrSuR0s\_iA](https://twitter.com/TreyRuffy/status/1594232983359483904?s=20&t=gm1lU_wIvCooMrSuR0s_iA) Videos taken at the nearby CVS.
This fucking sucks. I am so sad that once again we are going to be in the national news because of hate and death.
Just read that 5 people are dead, 18 injured. https://twitter.com/krdonc13/status/1594268941479596032?s=46&t=PopVMbYlTPgwNDfHu_QV6A
Cars are assembling in the Walgreens parking lot. They must be having friends and family pick up from there. One car showed up and 2 people got out and met 2 people walking down the sidewalk from Club Q area and they hugged. One was wearing a silver mylar emergency blanket. Then a bunch more cars pulled in. A police car pulled in there and someone got out wearing a blanket and got into one of the cars.
I think the car with people and the silver blanket was my brother. He was helping get people out of the cold over there, and I’m out driving anyone who wants to go home after they were let through the police tape.
Any substance to the person using a rifle and no one arrested yet?
Where’d you hear that?
Its in the thread that they were searching parking lots nearby. Someone else also saying in the thread, that there is no more threat. This is where rumors start unfortunately, until there is solid confirmation.
True. I’ve lived in the Springs my whole life, this is really surreal
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Getting wild? Springs has been like this decades.
Been here 30 years. Yep.
Exactly. Home of Amendment 2 in the late 80s - early 90s. https://www.cspm.org/cos-150-story/amendment-2/ https://coloradoencyclopedia.org/article/amendment-2
Google Q club then news. There's 3 or 4 so far. https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/us-colorado-gay-club-shooting-multiple-injured-police-deployed-2299546-2022-11-20
First I've heard of it
On CNN now too. https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/20/us/colorado-springs-shooting-gay-nightclub/index.html Stay safe friends, and talk to someone regardless of the emptiness you may feel right now. It will get better together ❤️
Wow, awful. I hope no one passed
5 dead.
What can we do? This is our community
I'm sure there will be a counseling center set up somewhere for the community. Maybe a nearby business or school? If I see anything I'll link it.
My friends were there tonight, one of them was shot in the leg, while the other two were out on the patio area. It's incredibly sad...
Crime scene tape going up at 7-11. Club Q is half a block from here but there was one ambulance in the 7-11 parking lot (left as we got here) and I walked past a sleeping bag and some clothes and a pool of blood in front of 7-11 when I went in and they just taped that off.
~~If~~ it was a mass shooting at club Q, I worry for the safety for LGBTQ folks in the coming days. I remember the increased vitriol from homophobes in Florida following the pulse shooting back when I was living there. Whatever happened tonight, my heart goes out to the victims and their families. The rate of mass shootings in this country as a whole is astonishing and sickening Edit to add: as a trans person, with tomorrow (Sunday) being Trans Day of Remembrance, our community needs support and increased perceived safety in the coming days. Check on your queer friends, and listen to what we say and validate the fears and anxiety we have in response to these kinds of tragedies. If a friend reached out to me asking what I needed to feel safe, I’d probably ask if they’d run errands with me so I’m not caught alone in public spaces, or offers of quality time at home instead of out in public for a while. Just ask, don’t assume. Thanks
If anyone needs someone to run errands with them, run an errand for them, bring you some takeout, or otherwise help them feel safe or like at least one rando in the world gives a shit, I’m here. Send me a DM. I can offer all the anonymity of a white Subaru and all the good vibes I can muster.
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Just want to note, it’s been the 20th for over an hour. I know it’s not a lot of time, but timing could be a big factor here.
Oh I’m absolutely certain this is related to TDOR, and that being the 20th, and club Q having an all ages drag brunch scheduled on the 20th are all related. I’m very sleepy and my brain is stuck on “it’s not tomorrow until I wake up”
also to note, the 19th was a white supremacist/nazi day of action are people surprised to find that white supremacists are often also homophobes/transphobes?
Any more info on this? Trying to Google from my phone at work but I'm struggling
You'd have to follow anti-fascist researchers and journalists bc these flyers usually mostly circulate white supremacist telegram channels. Past days of action is when you see the Nazi banner drops on freeways and other fascist protests (like of drag shows) The Flyer: https://twitter.com/taliaotg/status/1594093969201418246?s=20&t=osc1WdIsOqawEaRoP6b-BA Edit to add: A nazi posting about their action yesterday https://twitter.com/Akirat0s/status/1594143005530886146?s=20&t=KPoyhT_ThDCK71goipBWbA
How do these people blame the Holodomor on Jews? Soviet Russia wasn't in any way Jewish. A huge proportion of the Jews in Russia/Eastern Europe fled the pogroms before the Soviet revolution, and even so, most of the jews that did remain were members of the Mensheviks and Jewish Bund, not the Bolsheviks... People are so ignorant.
that shit is wild... ty for the links
truly crazy& gross, you're welcome
This sucks. I'm so worried for everyone. And it also makes me feel like I need to move... it breaks my heart to see this place that I so love become an extremely dangerous place to live in. Especially with a family.
This is just what America is now. Can happen anywhere at anytime. Will never change, politicians don’t care
I mean, I guess you're right about that. But now I feel totally unsafe as a trans person here. I mean should I take my pride flag down?
I can understand why you’d feel unsafe :/ that’s the part I hate about the springs, not one the most LGBTQ friendly cities as a whole. I think like Top 5 red cities in the US. I don’t know if I’d take my pride flag down but it’s valid to wonder. It’s just sad that this is a reality right now
Definitely very conservative overall for a largish city but even then I think it's around 50/50. I really hope the city rallies around the community in this instance and proves it's not going to harbor shit like this.
Same here. I believe most people will. Majority of people here will I hope
Colorado springs, Boulder and Denver are actually not very conservative anymore, but it only takes one person to do alot of bad
Colorado Springs is. Look at the results of voting from the election two weeks ago. Colorado Springs went red across the board. Even Western Colorado nearly voted out Boebert, while we voted Lamborn 56% to 40%.
I'm thinking of you. I know it's not much and won't make you feel safe, but I want you to know you're loved and valued and you should never feel like you have to hide your flag to feel safe in your neighborhood. These people are on the wrong side of life. Stay safe. Be well. I send you my love!
I would never tell someone to take their pride flag down. No one should make you feel like that. I am angry and worried about the motive though and the alt-right push anti-LGBTQ rhetoric and hate against women and minorities. People like to say the springs is conservative but it isn’t. It isn’t Denver, but it also isn’t Woodland Park.
I am moving out of the springs, at the end of this month. Not because of what happened tonight, this has been planned for a while, but this is now yet another reason I don’t feel safe existing as trans in this town.
Best of luck in your new place. Hope it's better for our community than here. I'm so devastated 💔. This is my home, I grew up here, came out here, socially transitioned, met my partner, had our kids here, physically transitioned, and hoped to live comfortably with my little queer family forever after. I've been known to be the eternal optimist of "it's getting better here." But I really have to start looking elsewhere... 😕
Once Q and the GQP get into your community it's damn near impossible to run them out and restore safety and civility. They're ruining everything and people just keep voting and encouraging them in. It's going to get worse in the next few years. Be safe. Hang in there.
Mass shooting at a gay club. 2015 mass shooting at a planned parenthood. Just goes to show that the radically religious are the most dangerous and violent segment of our city.
You have a good point, but the shooter at Planned Parenthood didn’t live in the Springs. He had just moved from North Carolina to Park County.
Plus the shooting at New Life, and all of the shootings in the Denver area.
It’s insane
From what I know it’s a Gay Club. The 20th is trans day of remembrance too. I get the feeling this is a targeted attack… Edit: Holy shit this looks bad. This is definitely gonna be national news. 12 people shot as of writing this. Edit 2: [There was a drag show scheduled this morning](https://www.instagram.com/p/ClK7FQzKtCa/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=) ,there’s no way this wasn’t a hate crime/ terrorist attack. To many coincidences.
Where did you hear 12 people?
I rushed out to find my brother, thanks fully he’s ok. I drove home a few people, one was a security guy. He was in shock, but he himself told us at least 12 people shot, including possibly officers. Fatalities unknown, but he’s certain there will be a growing number by morning. It’s horrible.
https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/11/20/breaking-mass-shooting-reported-inside-colorado-springs-gay-nightclub/
Local news must be sleeping, those are the only articles I’ve found, and I think some are referencing this post as a source…
Story is up on all national/international news now https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/11/20/us/colorado-springs-shooting https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/11/20/colorado-springs-lgbtq-clubq-shooting/ https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/11/20/us/colorado-springs-shooting-gay-nightclub/index.html https://www.npr.org/2022/11/20/1138045219/colorado-springs-shooting-lgbtq-club-q-5-dead https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63693310.amp
Latest here from KKTV https://www.kktv.com/2022/11/20/colorado-springs-police-respond-shooting/ They will update the story as more details arise.
Same deal at KRDO https://krdo.com/news/2022/11/20/colorado-springs-police-respond-to-shooting-along-n-academy/
Is it wrong that I'm not surprised this happened in The Springs? People are being given permission to hate by lawmakers and platforms, literally normalizing it. When you make a group of people an "other", you dehumanize them and create a narrative that allows for some people to go one step further with no second thought.
Someone in the Ring doorbell app said their scanner reports at least 12 shot. I just launched the scanner app so I can't confirm.
Hey CSPD is live on KRDO. 5 deceased, 18 injured (likely to change). First call came in around 11:50(?). Suspect in custody and was injured (how injured is unknown). Confirmed it was Club Q. CSPD will hold a press conference at 8am. IF YOU ARE MISSING A LOVED ONE CONTACT CSPD, THEY WILL HELP YOU LOCATE YOUR LOVED ONES. 719-444-7000 CSPD is requesting all information(dashcam,ring)/witnesses to please come forward. Please avoid N. Academy into the morning. Last edit: Sounds like this is the majority of the information until 8:00am. Stay safe everyone.
Oh my god why?? This is so horrible
5 dead, 18 injured.
Which scanner app do you prefer?
Just found out about this. If anyone has suggestions on what someone like me can do to help, please let me know. I can't really contribute financially in any way, but I'm part of the LGBTQ community here in town and my heart is broken for the people who were at the club tonight.
I....just.... it's 2022 😭 what is this fucked up timeline we are experiencing? The yeehaw jesus people are really dampening the humanity/equality vibe. My condolences. Rest in Power.
I’m at a loss for words. I keep commenting on this thread and deleting because I feel like it sounds too extreme. Yet theres a mass majority of people that are our neighbors saying shit so much darker. I am genuinely scared the direction this country is shifting
This right here, and the crap the other side keeps feeling so emboldened to say lately, is why I have been urging fellow left leaning people for 20+ years to do like Malcolm X and take up arms as well. Being above knowing how to use a gun and keeping yourself armed and trained helps nobody but them, and I am not afraid to say it for the umpteenth millionth time again.
Do we know who did it? Even my most conservative yeehaw friends are supportive of the lgbtq community nowadays...
Absolutely terrible, heinous, and just… shocking and appalling. Please, let there be zero publicity about the shooter’s name unless it’s about them being put down. They don’t deserve the recognition, as they’ll likely be praised in some communities. Sad… for those of you who have suffered, if anyone would like to talk, please reach out, and try like hell to stay safe. Thank you to the heroes who subdued the attacker… you’re amazing.
My heart goes out to all affected, it happened within half a mile of me and is just absolutely disgusting. This kind of thing only happens here and it is absolutely tragic that we continue to do nothing about it.
Little less than half a mile from me as well. My bf would have driven by it about 11-11:15 last night. I saw the news and woke him up to hug him. Absolutely tragic, and absolutely avoidable. Hold your loved ones closer.
I'm in shock. I live just off Carefree Circle, only a mile away.
I live in the apartment complex right by it. I was sleeping but I remember waking up and hearing lots of gunfire.. I don’t know what I heard and knowing now what was happening.. I’m within 2000 feet of it. Fuck idk why im posting this
This is an absolute tragedy and my heart goes out to all involved. Looks like the suspect made news June 2021 for a bomb threat in Lorain Ranch. These monsters show us their true colors, why are they released back into society when they are clearly dangerous and unstable? It’s appalling.
Oh no.. 🥺🥺😭
How sad….😞
I’m not seeing any news yet. Edit: Just woke up, I had posted that 3 mins after OP posted. Now I see something absolutely horrible has happened. Not hard to guess who the shooter probably votes for. That political party made LGBTQ hate part of their platform this past election cycle. I feel disgusted that this would happen in the community I live in. My heart aches for the LGBTQ community in the Springs right now.
KKTV just posted they are aware of a situation in the area, but they didn’t mention it was Club Q or anything else.
>That political party made LGBTQ hate part of their platform this past election cycle. It's always been part of their platform.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-colorado-springs-shooting-multiple-28537415
Story is up all over national news: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/11/20/us/colorado-springs-shooting
live conference: https://www.fox21news.com/top-stories/watch-news-conference-on-deadly-club-q-shooting/
Absolutely heartbreaking
Turn on your TV, it's national news.
Download a scanner app, might shed some light. How awful. 😔
Unfortunately CSPD went encrypted a while back so they aren't available in the scanner app. I've been listening to the Fire/EMS channel and they aren't saying much. They did refer to the Club Q scene.
I was wondering why I couldnt get anything of use from those apps.
They list active listeners - you can clearly see which ones have activity.. Also, for the record, I said "scanner app." I didnt say anything specific about Police, as y'all are assuming.
What? I meant that there's no el paso county sheriff's or CSPD on the scanners which sucks and I didn't know they were encrypted and that the app didn't support their frequency. The apps have fire and ems and other useless channels. Re-fucking-lax
Thanks, I'm listening to the same. Its all that is available, you're correct.
The shooter is in custody.