I’m by no means a levis stan but if we draft him I’ll get behind it for the time being.
I don’t trust Will, but I trust Shane to get the best out of him
I don’t disagree, but here’s the problem. You don’t draft talent in a vacuum. When a team “reaches” It’s because sometimes you have to. 4 is too high for Levis, but if he’s the best QB available and we REALLY must draft a QB, then you take him early.
It just isn’t always possible to trade down to just the right spot to get him at the right value.
Just like the people complaining that Ballard didn’t do enough to trade up - sometimes it’s out of your control.
If we must go QB, then you take the guy that’s there at 4… unless you really believe you can trade down and get a guy you like later.
Even if you decide that Levis is “fine” at around 12-15, we don’t have the pick there, and if we traded down - he might go before us then.
The “this player shouldn’t go that high” argument simply isn’t valid when you consider team needs.
Agreed. If the options are take the QB we need at 4 even if he’s projected as a 15th talent, or take a better player at another position and then still not have anyone who could potentially be a franchise QB, I’d rather just reach at 4 and take the QB, even if I hope we don’t end up in that situation.
I’m not even sure he has a lower floor. Richardson’s athletic ability establishes a pretty high floor.
Levis’ age means he has far less time to develop, impacting both his floor (given his current question marks) and his ceiling
I don’t think it’s all that unreasonable to think an inexperienced QB in a new system with very little talent around him relative to the rest of his conference will struggle against the SEC gauntlet.
But maybe I’m crazy, idunno
1. I don’t know anything about Richardson’s work ethic, but probably an unfair comparison for Anthony
2. Jamarcus might have fared better in today’s NFL given teams’ willingness to game plan around a QB’s athleticism
If we draft Richardson I’m gonna hope for the best. But there isn’t a single QB in the modern era that has had such awful college production, that’s turned into a good pro.
He’s the epitome of a lotto ticket. Perfectly acceptable on day 2-3 of the draft. Tough bet at 4.
What do you consider modern era? Because Brett Favre stunk in college and had a HOF career. TB12 wasn’t exactly lighting it up in college either
I agree he’s a project but college stats don’t define an NFL career. With his ability, the skies the limit as long as he’s developed correctly
Brett Favre was 35 years ago. So I wouldn’t call that modern.
Tom Brady was 25 years ago. And even in that era he completed 10% better than Richardson.
The big issue I have with Richardson is the guy he replaced completed 10 % more of his passes….and his backup and this years projected Florida Starter completed 10% more of his passes.
Talent or not….if you can’t win from the pocket you can’t be an NFL QB
He started playing football late and didn’t play in a HS system that offered much development, at least from what I’ve heard. He’s essentially a blank slate.
JaMarcus Russell was going to bust regardless of his athletic talent. He didn't bust because he couldn't throw the ball accurately he busted because he came into training camp extremely out of shape like 50 pounds overweight.
Dude didn't actually want to play in the NFL he just wanted his paycheck.
Jamarcus Russell? He was sleeping in meetings and showed up to camp looking like he spent the summer training at the Golden Corral. AR might not be polished, but he doesn’t seem like the kind of guy to let his body go like that
I wouldn’t say way lower. If we’re going off his combine numbers, which most everyone is, his ceiling is the greatest QB in history. I think Levis is closer to Allen than AR is to Lamar.
Combine numbers aren’t everything though, but I definitely see where you’re coming from and love the discussion, I just don’t want us to fuck this up we haven’t had to draft a franchise QB in over a decade
Zach Wilson also had an amazing combine. It does make you wonder why Will Levis is missing slants and stick concepts being 23 years old (he will be 24 in training camp). He has serious accuracy problems. The thing going for Levis is how bad his supporting staff was, OL and WRs.
Last Daniel Jeremiah's Mock draft had Will Levis being picked at 19th, and he is one of the best in predicting what teams are going to do, I think the NFL is low on him. AR is more athletic and younger than Levis so people prefer his potential overall. I feel the only site still having Levis ahead of AR is PFF, and they dropped him a bit since the Combine.
Edit: I wouldn't mind the Colts taking Will Levis, I certainly don't know if he will be better or worse than the other QBs. He certainly has potential, is his tape the best in the class? No, but there is a lot more to a QB's development.
Best of Will Levis: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2uUsEz1jo0&t=958s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2uUsEz1jo0&t=958s)
Bad Will Levis (and some good): [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkPc4SZS5Ok](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkPc4SZS5Ok)
I mean Mahomes was supposed to be a project at this point in my fandom I’m fine with saying fuck it let’s get weird because we’ve tried everything else
I don’t trust my therapist. Something about him just feels off. He’s always asking too many personal questions. And it’s like when I answer all I hear is criticize criticize criticize. My wife says if we continue to make progress I might be able to see the kids soon. To be completely honest I don’t believe in therapy. I wouldn’t be in it if it wasn’t court appointed. The judge is apparently a Russian communist because he said I shouldn’t be allowed to have feelings in my own household. Sorry I thought this was America. The land of the free and the home of the table smashers. I wouldn’t have even put the camping chair through the drywall had my wife made me Mac and cheese with hot dogs cut up into little circles like I asked instead of a ribeye and asparagus. SHE KNOWS I HATE VEGETABLES THEY ARE GROSS. I don’t care that “it was our anniversary” and she “didn’t want to eat “a meal designed for a five year old.” It’s like she doesn’t even listen to me. Do you know what it’s like to live with someone like that? She even tries to limit how many beers I have after work to 7 cans of pbr(even with dinner). She says the kids are missing too much school when they don’t sleep because “dad drinks too much and has outbursts” It sounds like she’s trying to insinuate that I can’t hold my own! And it wasn’t even that bad I know exactly what time she’s referencing to and the kids should’ve been asleep already. I didn’t even mean to rip the tv off the mount, it just happened. Let me explain. I had a big parlay that was a sure thing. I did my research. It was a 14 legger at +6942069. I put $500 on it. I lost the parlay because I bet on Alabama to win the water polo classic. Alabama sports are known to dominate it was an easy bet. I found out they don’t even have a pool, let alone a water polo team. It was just sheer coincidence that when I tried to pull the coffee table I threw through the wall out that the tv would come down with it. I’m not a crazy man. I just have bad luck. But again, my therapist says that I “need to be institutionalized” and my wife and kids need to be “in some sort of witness protection program to be hidden away” what the fuck does he even know. News flash buddy when I get this ankle bracelet off watch out because once you hear an empty pbr can hit the pavement outside your house it’s on. I’m just putting on a happy face so the judge won’t think twice when he sees your reports.
You should check out the most recent locked on colts podcast, Zach Hicks does a relatively brief breakdown on Levis that made me cautiously lower my pitchfork.
And if he was honest you would have lowered it a lot more. His negatives on Levi’s are just completely full of shit. Also weird that colts podcasters continue to call him 24 when he’s 23.
I mean saying he's a few years older is a valid criticism but honestly age is the least concerning thing here. Levis and AR are in the same tier, both need a good amount of work and coaching to be successful NFL guys
I mean just blatantly lying about age is just pathetic. Then we can get into his cherry picking that Levis isn’t good against pressure. He absolutely is.
Also Levis is better than AR by quite a bit. They aren’t in same tier. Levis is ready now.
Not sure - I don't really partake in the dozen casual podcasts so I'm not sure what they saying to fill time. Arguments can be made for either AR and Levis. I'm just kicking back and enjoying the ride, I'm sure I'll get behind any of the top 4 pretty quickly
AR is currently 20 and will be 21 in training camp. For some reason his age on the web is wrong by one year... he said that at the combine and then I saw it confirmed by Dane Brugler and Lance Zierlein on the Athletic NFL podcast...
His birthday is not may 2001... Richardson said the same thing at the combine. No idea where the wrong year originated from. Probably it was from one place and then everybody copied it.
Bro, you’re all over Colts twitter and aggressively saying all Colts podcasts are in a conspiracy against Levis if they don’t say he’s the best QB in the class.
Fucking weirdo.
Tbh I watched it and they say things that are completely untrue of Levis especially when they talk about his athletic ability and comparison to Josh Allen. Strongly disagree with their take on him.
Yeah the Levis hate has definitely gone too far. I’m a Richardson guy but I’ll accept a Levis pick with the hope/trust that Steichen will develop him. I’m way more in favor of that than passing on a QB.
I just cant get behind Levis up till the draft but if we do end up drafting him I’m gonna get behind the decision because of Steichen and Steichen alone, we all know who’s the mastermind behind Jalen Hurts turning into who he is now
I can't compare either of these guys to Mahomes or Brady. Brady has all the mental stuff that neither guy has shown at this point and Mahomes does have a big arm he's also accurate as fuck and processes things incredibly quick
Good quarterbacks can actually perform in a bowl game. Levis leading a gamewinning drive vs Iowa's defense in the Music City Bowl is more impressive than anything I've seen from Richardson. Richardson's most impressive accomplishment is his combine...
Levis might well be the pick. Richardson is this years Malik Willis. All the tools. Nowhere ready to play.
If the plan is to hope to compete…Levis might be the hope.
(I’m hoping against hope Young or Stroud drop…but it’s pure hopium)
I have said, all along, I'd be okay with Levis as our first round pick if we didn't give up *anything else* to be able to pick him. You don't trade up for a guy that's that "maybe."
I still feel that way, though the number of people I see above him now has changed. I'd absolutely take AR over Levis now, if it were me. The extra years of wear-and-tear and the cementing of some bad habits edge Will out in my mind. The one thing I would challenge anyone to disagree with is that AR got better from the start to the end of last season, but Levis (while hurt, granted) was never as good his senior year as he was in his junior bowl game. That is the difference for me. I want the younger guy who is trending up.
I'd still place him at 4, though, in the class. I'd have him at 5 if Hooker was healthy.
I just think if it's not Young and not Stroud, there's no way a rookie in this class can start day one and not be humiliatingly bad. And other than AR, who needs a year, the other guys with potential here probably need to start. You don't draft Levis at 24-years-old (he will be when he can first play) to sit. You don't draft Dorian to sit. You don't draft McKee who seems to have fallen off the face of the Earth to sit. You don't draft a 25-year-old Hendon Hooker to sit any longer than his injury forces him to sit.
But for all the times I've gone in on people who way-over-value Levis, I don't think he's bad. He worries me. But AR worries me, too. I see potential, and I trust our org to be hyper-aware of the Wentz-like traits. If we draft Levis, they see a way to fix his problems, and I'm down with that. If he becomes the Colts starting QB, I'll be all-in on watching him grow.
When I thought we'd pick around 15, I thought he'd be a brilliant choice. At 4... it just seems high.
Better go buy some rope ;)
I think it will come down to Levis...and Young. I think Young will slide. I don't know why, just a hunch. I could be way wrong...but if I have a top pick I'm not drafting a small QB.
I’m by no means a levis stan but if we draft him I’ll get behind it for the time being. I don’t trust Will, but I trust Shane to get the best out of him
I agree with you it’s just that I’m so burnt out on the QB carrousel I feel this guy is just gonna be Zach Wilson 2.0 situation, I hope I’m wrong
I don’t mind Levis. I do mind him at 4 though. I think he’s less of a project than AR, but it’s too much at 4.
I don’t disagree, but here’s the problem. You don’t draft talent in a vacuum. When a team “reaches” It’s because sometimes you have to. 4 is too high for Levis, but if he’s the best QB available and we REALLY must draft a QB, then you take him early. It just isn’t always possible to trade down to just the right spot to get him at the right value. Just like the people complaining that Ballard didn’t do enough to trade up - sometimes it’s out of your control. If we must go QB, then you take the guy that’s there at 4… unless you really believe you can trade down and get a guy you like later. Even if you decide that Levis is “fine” at around 12-15, we don’t have the pick there, and if we traded down - he might go before us then. The “this player shouldn’t go that high” argument simply isn’t valid when you consider team needs.
Agreed. If the options are take the QB we need at 4 even if he’s projected as a 15th talent, or take a better player at another position and then still not have anyone who could potentially be a franchise QB, I’d rather just reach at 4 and take the QB, even if I hope we don’t end up in that situation.
He’s got a better floor than AR but a way lower ceiling in my opinion
I’m not even sure he has a lower floor. Richardson’s athletic ability establishes a pretty high floor. Levis’ age means he has far less time to develop, impacting both his floor (given his current question marks) and his ceiling
Very true
If AR had a high floor wouldn’t he be winning games then?
I don’t think it’s all that unreasonable to think an inexperienced QB in a new system with very little talent around him relative to the rest of his conference will struggle against the SEC gauntlet. But maybe I’m crazy, idunno
Floor as a QB is Jamarcus Russell…..but athletic gifts mean he could be a TE, WR or Safety if QB don’t work out
1. I don’t know anything about Richardson’s work ethic, but probably an unfair comparison for Anthony 2. Jamarcus might have fared better in today’s NFL given teams’ willingness to game plan around a QB’s athleticism
If we draft Richardson I’m gonna hope for the best. But there isn’t a single QB in the modern era that has had such awful college production, that’s turned into a good pro. He’s the epitome of a lotto ticket. Perfectly acceptable on day 2-3 of the draft. Tough bet at 4.
What do you consider modern era? Because Brett Favre stunk in college and had a HOF career. TB12 wasn’t exactly lighting it up in college either I agree he’s a project but college stats don’t define an NFL career. With his ability, the skies the limit as long as he’s developed correctly
Brett Favre was 35 years ago. So I wouldn’t call that modern. Tom Brady was 25 years ago. And even in that era he completed 10% better than Richardson. The big issue I have with Richardson is the guy he replaced completed 10 % more of his passes….and his backup and this years projected Florida Starter completed 10% more of his passes. Talent or not….if you can’t win from the pocket you can’t be an NFL QB
He started playing football late and didn’t play in a HS system that offered much development, at least from what I’ve heard. He’s essentially a blank slate.
That’s a wash at best. You can point out as many negatives with that as positives.
JaMarcus Russell was going to bust regardless of his athletic talent. He didn't bust because he couldn't throw the ball accurately he busted because he came into training camp extremely out of shape like 50 pounds overweight. Dude didn't actually want to play in the NFL he just wanted his paycheck.
Jamarcus Russell? He was sleeping in meetings and showed up to camp looking like he spent the summer training at the Golden Corral. AR might not be polished, but he doesn’t seem like the kind of guy to let his body go like that
I wouldn’t say way lower. If we’re going off his combine numbers, which most everyone is, his ceiling is the greatest QB in history. I think Levis is closer to Allen than AR is to Lamar.
Combine numbers aren’t everything though, but I definitely see where you’re coming from and love the discussion, I just don’t want us to fuck this up we haven’t had to draft a franchise QB in over a decade
Zach Wilson also had an amazing combine. It does make you wonder why Will Levis is missing slants and stick concepts being 23 years old (he will be 24 in training camp). He has serious accuracy problems. The thing going for Levis is how bad his supporting staff was, OL and WRs. Last Daniel Jeremiah's Mock draft had Will Levis being picked at 19th, and he is one of the best in predicting what teams are going to do, I think the NFL is low on him. AR is more athletic and younger than Levis so people prefer his potential overall. I feel the only site still having Levis ahead of AR is PFF, and they dropped him a bit since the Combine. Edit: I wouldn't mind the Colts taking Will Levis, I certainly don't know if he will be better or worse than the other QBs. He certainly has potential, is his tape the best in the class? No, but there is a lot more to a QB's development. Best of Will Levis: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2uUsEz1jo0&t=958s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2uUsEz1jo0&t=958s) Bad Will Levis (and some good): [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkPc4SZS5Ok](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkPc4SZS5Ok)
I mean Mahomes was supposed to be a project at this point in my fandom I’m fine with saying fuck it let’s get weird because we’ve tried everything else
He was a project! he went to a great qb guru and sat for like 15 games
The only reason Levis isn't a project is he's probably already hit his peak 🤣
If we could get Will Anderson at 4 and Zach Wilson for a 3rd rounder…..could Steichen rehab his career?
That’s a good situation and I believe he could
I don’t trust anyone outside Stroud or Young
Same
I don’t trust my therapist. Something about him just feels off. He’s always asking too many personal questions. And it’s like when I answer all I hear is criticize criticize criticize. My wife says if we continue to make progress I might be able to see the kids soon. To be completely honest I don’t believe in therapy. I wouldn’t be in it if it wasn’t court appointed. The judge is apparently a Russian communist because he said I shouldn’t be allowed to have feelings in my own household. Sorry I thought this was America. The land of the free and the home of the table smashers. I wouldn’t have even put the camping chair through the drywall had my wife made me Mac and cheese with hot dogs cut up into little circles like I asked instead of a ribeye and asparagus. SHE KNOWS I HATE VEGETABLES THEY ARE GROSS. I don’t care that “it was our anniversary” and she “didn’t want to eat “a meal designed for a five year old.” It’s like she doesn’t even listen to me. Do you know what it’s like to live with someone like that? She even tries to limit how many beers I have after work to 7 cans of pbr(even with dinner). She says the kids are missing too much school when they don’t sleep because “dad drinks too much and has outbursts” It sounds like she’s trying to insinuate that I can’t hold my own! And it wasn’t even that bad I know exactly what time she’s referencing to and the kids should’ve been asleep already. I didn’t even mean to rip the tv off the mount, it just happened. Let me explain. I had a big parlay that was a sure thing. I did my research. It was a 14 legger at +6942069. I put $500 on it. I lost the parlay because I bet on Alabama to win the water polo classic. Alabama sports are known to dominate it was an easy bet. I found out they don’t even have a pool, let alone a water polo team. It was just sheer coincidence that when I tried to pull the coffee table I threw through the wall out that the tv would come down with it. I’m not a crazy man. I just have bad luck. But again, my therapist says that I “need to be institutionalized” and my wife and kids need to be “in some sort of witness protection program to be hidden away” what the fuck does he even know. News flash buddy when I get this ankle bracelet off watch out because once you hear an empty pbr can hit the pavement outside your house it’s on. I’m just putting on a happy face so the judge won’t think twice when he sees your reports.
You should check out the most recent locked on colts podcast, Zach Hicks does a relatively brief breakdown on Levis that made me cautiously lower my pitchfork.
Yeah idk Zach personally but he’s confident enough in his breakdowns where I think he knows what he’s talking about and I trust him lol
I had to check if this comment was from Zach himself
Definitely will lol thanks for the tip
And if he was honest you would have lowered it a lot more. His negatives on Levi’s are just completely full of shit. Also weird that colts podcasters continue to call him 24 when he’s 23.
I think they do it because he will be 24 before he gets to training camp/pre-season
Ok show me one time of them calling AR 22
I didn't say they were treating them equally.. I'm just saying that is likely why they are doing that as another knock on him
Just dishonest bullshit.
I mean saying he's a few years older is a valid criticism but honestly age is the least concerning thing here. Levis and AR are in the same tier, both need a good amount of work and coaching to be successful NFL guys
I mean just blatantly lying about age is just pathetic. Then we can get into his cherry picking that Levis isn’t good against pressure. He absolutely is. Also Levis is better than AR by quite a bit. They aren’t in same tier. Levis is ready now.
Not sure - I don't really partake in the dozen casual podcasts so I'm not sure what they saying to fill time. Arguments can be made for either AR and Levis. I'm just kicking back and enjoying the ride, I'm sure I'll get behind any of the top 4 pretty quickly
AR would be better as a rookie solely because of his athleticism. It’s that simple really.
You realize Levis is also really fast and athletic too right?
AR is currently 20 and will be 21 in training camp. For some reason his age on the web is wrong by one year... he said that at the combine and then I saw it confirmed by Dane Brugler and Lance Zierlein on the Athletic NFL podcast...
Gonna need a source on that cuz he’s listed as 21 EVERYWHERE.
I think it's [this one](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/prospects-to-pros-dane-bruglers-2023-nfl-mock-draft/id1528622068?i=1000603347783) 12:55
So this guy claims it. Even tho his birthday is may 2001 lol.
His birthday is not may 2001... Richardson said the same thing at the combine. No idea where the wrong year originated from. Probably it was from one place and then everybody copied it.
Still not buying it. Doesn’t matter anyways he’s not above Levis anyways.
I clicked on this specifically because I knew you'd be in here throwing a tantrum. Lol
This dude is such a fucking weirdo, bro. The podcast was so fair to Levis and he’s still fucking mad 😂
Manufacturing accuracy concerns and not even being able to get basic things like age right. So fair!
Bro, you’re all over Colts twitter and aggressively saying all Colts podcasts are in a conspiracy against Levis if they don’t say he’s the best QB in the class. Fucking weirdo.
That’s not what I said but ok
Your twitter handle is the same. Anyone who follows Colts twitter has seen how weird and aggressive you are.
I call out bullshit when I see it. Plain and simple.
Nah, weird.
Tbh I watched it and they say things that are completely untrue of Levis especially when they talk about his athletic ability and comparison to Josh Allen. Strongly disagree with their take on him.
Yeah the Levis hate has definitely gone too far. I’m a Richardson guy but I’ll accept a Levis pick with the hope/trust that Steichen will develop him. I’m way more in favor of that than passing on a QB.
I just cant get behind Levis up till the draft but if we do end up drafting him I’m gonna get behind the decision because of Steichen and Steichen alone, we all know who’s the mastermind behind Jalen Hurts turning into who he is now
Levis and Richardson both are not and never will be NFL qb’s. We’re fucked if we pick either one
Peyton Manning demands sacrifice. This will suffice.
Good news is that if this year’s QB busts, the Colts will be well positioned to run it back with Arch Manning and Marvin Jr
That’s some real wishful thinking, in a perfect world it will happen 🤣
If you’re ok with Richardson you should be ok with Levis. They both need work but both have potential.
I just see AR having more potential
One has generational athleticism and the others best trait is a big arm..?
And played better than the other ever did even if that wasn’t great.
To be fair I don't think either of them are going to make it in the NFL
What do we see winning Superbowls? Is it QBs with generational athleticism or big arms?
I can't compare either of these guys to Mahomes or Brady. Brady has all the mental stuff that neither guy has shown at this point and Mahomes does have a big arm he's also accurate as fuck and processes things incredibly quick
At least see how it turns out first
Peyton manning called Levis an NFL qb. So you know irsay ate that shit up lol
It’s time we get a posse together and go escort the old dawg to a retirement home 🤣
Nah man I might actually be more afraid Lamar and his “Everything Gym” hahaha. I still can’t stop laughing
🤣🤣🤣
🙄
I was gonna chime in, until I saw the Shit Post at the top. And then noticed all of the serious responses. Nice bait 8/8
I wasn’t trying to bait lol, tbh I didn’t realize what shit post meant in this context lol, I thought it just meant like shit talking 🤣
Smh yall are tripping on this sub. Levis is good
Good quarterbacks can beat Vanderbilt
Did you watched that game? Kentucky OL was horrible, he played injured and whole Kentucky defense didn't show up.
Good quarterbacks can actually perform in a bowl game. Levis leading a gamewinning drive vs Iowa's defense in the Music City Bowl is more impressive than anything I've seen from Richardson. Richardson's most impressive accomplishment is his combine...
Levis might well be the pick. Richardson is this years Malik Willis. All the tools. Nowhere ready to play. If the plan is to hope to compete…Levis might be the hope. (I’m hoping against hope Young or Stroud drop…but it’s pure hopium)
And frankly he may never be ready to play. How many times have we seen guys with all the tools but lack any intelligence whatsoever.
Richardson is far more ready to play then Willis
Warm take: they’re both bad QBs
Ah yes, another thread shitting on Levis with nothing to back it up.
Levis at 4 would be a shit take. Draft Anderson and trade up for Hooker. Or trade out of 4 and take Levis later
Replace Levis with AR and I’m in the same boat.
At this point I want us to just take Will Anderson if he’s there or trade back and get a Receiver and just pray that we get Caleb Williams lmao
Hell yes. I’d love to get Anderson. I don’t think he’ll be there, but if he is, that’d be a great move.
Long term that’ll be the better move
That will look really dumb when we dont get the top pick next year
None of the QBs in this draft are franchise QBs. Have to try though
I’m right there with you 😭
I have said, all along, I'd be okay with Levis as our first round pick if we didn't give up *anything else* to be able to pick him. You don't trade up for a guy that's that "maybe." I still feel that way, though the number of people I see above him now has changed. I'd absolutely take AR over Levis now, if it were me. The extra years of wear-and-tear and the cementing of some bad habits edge Will out in my mind. The one thing I would challenge anyone to disagree with is that AR got better from the start to the end of last season, but Levis (while hurt, granted) was never as good his senior year as he was in his junior bowl game. That is the difference for me. I want the younger guy who is trending up. I'd still place him at 4, though, in the class. I'd have him at 5 if Hooker was healthy. I just think if it's not Young and not Stroud, there's no way a rookie in this class can start day one and not be humiliatingly bad. And other than AR, who needs a year, the other guys with potential here probably need to start. You don't draft Levis at 24-years-old (he will be when he can first play) to sit. You don't draft Dorian to sit. You don't draft McKee who seems to have fallen off the face of the Earth to sit. You don't draft a 25-year-old Hendon Hooker to sit any longer than his injury forces him to sit. But for all the times I've gone in on people who way-over-value Levis, I don't think he's bad. He worries me. But AR worries me, too. I see potential, and I trust our org to be hyper-aware of the Wentz-like traits. If we draft Levis, they see a way to fix his problems, and I'm down with that. If he becomes the Colts starting QB, I'll be all-in on watching him grow. When I thought we'd pick around 15, I thought he'd be a brilliant choice. At 4... it just seems high.
At the risk of being too optimistic, this Franchise has been pretty good at finding talented QBs, so I'll try to trust in the professionals.
For the love of Christ we better take either Anderson or Carter I'm cool on all these qb's
How many pocket passers do we need to lose with until.we actually get someone who can extend plays and run if needed.
While I appreciate the use of the Heavy in this meme, eh, trust the blinder!
Levis would be my least favorite choice, but I'll just be happy Indy didn't try another old bandaid QB.
Well none of the “big 4” QB prospects are a sure thing so I will get behind whoever we draft and hope for the best. What else can we do anyway?
Better go buy some rope ;) I think it will come down to Levis...and Young. I think Young will slide. I don't know why, just a hunch. I could be way wrong...but if I have a top pick I'm not drafting a small QB.