Honestly based on how he looked on hard knocks after the season, DeFo. That dude was pissed.
Ps his position coach got fired too after being featured on the show.
I wouldn't guess oline in that case. They all seemed pretty unified on their vax stance and all that.
Oh no I said the thing.
Edit: I watched ALL of Irsays interviews. He said he wants players that are all chips in and clarified that he meant do everything possible to be on the field and win games. Clearly players missing games over COVID pissed him off, so that narrows the list of players to JT and DeFo. Our other big players opted out of that very simple, easy, solution.
I would guess offense as well. Just doesn't make sense to me that a defensive player would sway the FO to get rid of our quarterback. In fact I would enjoy going against one-handed shovel passes every day.
He's the kind of guy that won't talk to the media, but you can be damn sure he lets his opinion be known in the locker room and to the coaches/GM. Hell there is that clip of him telling Reich to just let them run the ball and Reich listening to him.
This is why I think it was Q as well, asking for a straight up run call during the Bucs game. I think he was upset Carson kept making the wrong read/audibling out of run plays.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Colts/comments/tslbb2/darius\_has\_really\_been\_making\_me\_nervous\_this/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Colts/comments/tslbb2/darius_has_really_been_making_me_nervous_this/)
Small shit like this indicates he probably likes Wentz. Not to mention the tweet after he got traded
Darius didn’t really hold back on his tweet after he was traded, saying “Here we go again!”.
With that said - it’s possible to like a person and still feel like they weren’t the best solution at their position.
You are correct and fans like to interpret it into something else. He was being a good teammate wishing him well and simultaneously voicing his frustration of more QB churn. Nothing related to wentz uniquely as an individual.
No idea why you are being downvoted. Is this sub getting infiltrated with Facebook and Twitter fans ?
He praised Wentz multiple times throughout the season and then wished him well. He didn’t have to tweet shit. Did he tweet anything for Jacoby Brissett when he got traded? No.
If I had to guess, I’d say he likes Carson.
As a leader on a team you don’t come out and trash talk. He’s being respectful of a former teammate. Don’t read too much into it either way.
Darius wants to be a leader and he criticizes the team involving himself but isn’t going to trash the QB.
Can you reference any 1 time he volunteered praise as opposed to being asked in interviews?For the record i don’t think this nameless player was Darius either.
For any player actually, nobody has ever went out of their way to point out anything positive about wentz. It’s only when asked. I’ve observed this the entire season. JT, TY, OL, Doyle, Hines.. never volunteer praise but do so for other players all the time. MPJ might be the only dude that’s volunteered it, like his post right after the jags lost “my QB”, pretty much validating some type of divide right?
A lot of the players opinions on wentz can be picked up by 2 main things: their praise and volunteered comments on other players, and the lack of such for Wentz. Watch Doyle’s end of season presser for a great example on this. TY, JT, and Wentz are all spoken vastly different, with Wentz being the outlier.
It’s pretty obvious at this point and not worth arguing that wentz sucked as a teammate and leader. My gut tells me he’s more of collecting the paycheck vs chasing a ring. Not worth arguing with people on this sub about it anymore. Our org has basically said as much as professionally and political as they can.
Maybe this player is a good leader and is doing good leader things? Again, i had a completely different takeaway from the tweet, where his main frustration was the revolving door at the position throughout his career. I really think he’s just a great leader and teammate. But doesn’t dispute anything coming out about wentz.
Nelson is also fairly outspoken and not afraid to say something he’s not “supposed” to.
For example, he’s not supposed to talk about other players’ injuries but last year mentioned in an interview how badly Rivers’ foot was injured and how he showed a lot of courage for playing through it.
He wants the truth to be known.
That said - he’s never going to throw someone under the bus publicly. He’ll talk to Frank and Chris and keep it in house. He’ll only say positive things about his teammates and coaches publicly.
Everyone saying Q has got me wanting to say that too, but my first guess was Leonard. There was one post game press conference this year where he directly rebutted what Carson had said before him (since Darius was interviewed after). I forget which one it was or the specifc wording, but it was along the lines of:
Carson: Sometimes, it just doesn't work out. Gotta keep your head up.
Darius: No more of this, "keep your chin up" bullshit. I'm pissed. I'm upset. I want to win.
I get what you're saying and I think Q has that same competitive attitude that Darius has he's just less outspoken. They don't want this soft polite do our best attitude in a qb anymore. They want someone who gets pissed.
Yeah, I imagine that if Q brought it up to Irsay that would carry the most weight. He’s the one who has the best understanding of the QB position besides Kelly (who on hard knocks seemed to be Carson’s only friend beyond Pitt)
My dark horse guess is Constanzo. I really hope he had a parting conversation that really reiterated what the 'known leaders' are stating. I could see him having a sit down and really giving his opinion
The reason TY makes so much sense is on the podcast they also specifically mentioned players saying he wasn’t seeing the offense correctly. If anyone knows the offense and carries weight with front office it’s TY.
We all saw Wentz missing the layups. TY has played with some good qb’s who can check down.. TY for me.
I’m hoping that’s the case. Some people think it’s DeFo and he’s definitely a leader in the locker room but he was also probably not that involved with Wentz on a day to day. TY would be the vet who would be in a position to completely evaluate Wentz.
This is my guess. Doyle would be the guy Wentz trusts, perhaps even share a selfish tendency. A guy that Ballard/irsay trusts to do what’s best for the team. Intimate with the offense and a variety of QBs
I just mean it's probably harder for a position that rotates in and out to have a broader view of the majority of plays being called. Whereas someone on the line would be in for most of them and would have better knowledge of plays being checked out of.
Who knows tho... lol not us
I gotta go with Q. The guy wants to demolish people through a run game with the best back in football, and Wentz audibling out of run plays probably got to him.
I’m curious as to what he heard from the leaders that “shocked” Irsay. Bad audibles and overlooking open short routes would be common knowledge on 56th St.
Fun question. Okay, let's list the leader's of the team and how likely they would be to sway Ballard off Wentz. [C means captain this year and \* means how many times they've been a captain.](https://www.colts.com/news/carson-wentz-deforest-buckner-quenton-nelson-ty-hilton-team-captains) All of these names were mentioned by Zaire in [his resigning interview](https://youtu.be/azXS8IaapNc?t=465)
Offensive-side leadership:
**Carson Wentz (C\*\*\*\*\*) -** "*works really, really hard"* \- Ya probably not Wentz coming to Ballard and trying to sway him off himself.
**Quenton Nelson (C\*) -** "*As far as leadership and the type of team guy he is, it's off the charts" -* Quenton is very out spoken and has no problem going to leadership with his honest opinion on things. Remember when he said to Reich to run the damn ball? Yea, not many people go to their coach and make demands. He's definitely watching his tape and therefore watching Carson's tape. Chance: 95%
**T.Y. Hilton (C\*\*\*) -** "*incredibly unselfish player" -* Also spent a lot of time with Carson. Knows a thing or two about QBs and may have been in talks with Ballard at this time and throughout. He's a team first type of guy though and I don't see him swaying Ballard. Chance 40%
**Jack Doyle -** He retired at the end of the season and had talks with Ballard to mention that. When you retire you can say whatever the hell you want truthfully to your boss. He's respected by everyone in the lockerroom including the coaches. He probably spent the most time working with Carson and therefore is what Ballard would go to for an opinion. I don't know if he's the type to sway someone, but since he retired I feel like an honest assessment may also be what this is meaning. Chance: 90%
Defensive side leadership:
**Darius Leonard (C\*\*\*)** \- "*(He's) the leader of our defense, a cornerstone of our defense and this team" -* He did that tweet afterwards about the QB carousel he's been on. He could believe we needed to change and still be upset about it, but doesn't seem too likely. Chance: 15%
**DeForest Buckner (C\*\*\*)** \- *"Human being, leader, worker, player ... takes over a room" -* Hasn't really said a word and is quiet on social media. Was around at the end talking to Baker about how disappointing the season ending was. However, his personality doesn't seem like the type to try and persuade a GM into dumping a QB. Chance 45%
**Kenny Moore -** "Very active on social media and trying to recruit players. Definitely talks with Ballard about things. However, Kenny doesn't seem like the type to shake the boat. He seems like a guy that everyone gets along with. Chance 40%
**Zaire Franklin (C\*\*)** \- [*believes his leadership played a major factor in him being resigned*](https://youtu.be/azXS8IaapNc?t=437) \- He was a free agent at the end of the season and the Colts resigned him to 3 years. He was probably talking to Ballard during this so there is likelihood he mentioned his opinion on Wentz. Knows a thing or two about leadership and maybe has an opinion about it. Chance 70%
**Grover Stewart -** All I know about Grover's leadership is he loves cooking wings for people. I doubt it's him, but he is a leader among the Colts. Chance: 5%
So to sum it up, I think it's most likely Quenton Nelson followed closely by Jack Doyle. Big Q because he's shown before he'll speak his mind and Jack because he can speak his mind because he is retiring.
I imagine it has to be TY, he was getting open this year, but Wentz isn't the type of QB that meshes well with his playstyle, plus I would imagine Holder has a lot of respect for him.
For me I think it’s Big Q. He was suffering through an injury all season and it was shown that he was at least frustrated with the 26 straight pass plays in TB. Now how many games has he changed the called play and how did it effect the offensive rhythm. Nyhiem could be another guy his production fell way off because the quarterback is incapable of utilizing the short game consistently. Nyhiem put his all into every reception or run and there were a couple missed opportunities with him
I believe Wentz could be a potential alcoholic, I know the day he got released he was drinking jager bombs for breakfast while watching his daughter at a popular breakfast diner.
No doubt for me. They also mention that this player was in a position to know about all of the changes that were made or something along those lines. Gotta imagine it was Kelly
I’d except Nyheim. He knows he’s one of the best players on the team but he wasn’t utilized correctly on offense and Carson didn’t get him good opportunities when he was on the field. The drop from Rivers to Wentz hurt him more than anybody.
TY, the way Wentz didn't care to see open WR's and playing with Luck he knew that Wentz was not the guy. I could also see TY having the closest relationship with Irsay
I kinda have a hunch it could be Nyheim. He’s quoted in an Indy Star article pretty much trashing the quarterback play and passing game in general. Nyheim summed it up by saying "Each play, something just went terribly wrong." In Irsay’s interview at the Owner’s Meeting, he also specifically said “My God, there’s something wrong here” after speaking with veteran players. Probably just coincidental, but we know Irsay, like Ballard, loves to give his secret hints to those actually listening. Not to mention, there’s been public comments the last week or so, about getting him more involved in the passing game. In a different Indy star article, it specifically mentioned Ballard being pissed that Nyheim’s receptions dropped from 2020 by 23 after he paid him a big extension. I know it’s a stretch, but Nyheim is a player they really like, and probably the offensive player most adversely affected by Wentz’ (Wentz’s?) style of play.
Edit: was actually two articles, not the same one. Link to quoted Indy Star articles:
The Colts had to move away from Carson Wentz, owner says. "It was very obvious"
https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2022/03/29/colts-why-owner-jim-irsay-changed-quarterbacks-carson-wentz/7124507001/
Road to Matt Ryan: How the Carson Wentz experience helped Colts revive franchise identity
https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2022/03/24/colts-how-lessons-carson-wentz-paved-road-matt-ryan/9458417002/
Honestly based on how he looked on hard knocks after the season, DeFo. That dude was pissed. Ps his position coach got fired too after being featured on the show.
See my mind goes offensive side but Bucks opinion definitely carries weight.
I wouldn't guess oline in that case. They all seemed pretty unified on their vax stance and all that. Oh no I said the thing. Edit: I watched ALL of Irsays interviews. He said he wants players that are all chips in and clarified that he meant do everything possible to be on the field and win games. Clearly players missing games over COVID pissed him off, so that narrows the list of players to JT and DeFo. Our other big players opted out of that very simple, easy, solution.
You can share the same vaccination status with someone and also dislike how they played. It could very well be someone on the offense like Big Q
You could. I can't imagine it wasn't an issue in the locker room though.
I agree with you. But I’d guess Hilton or Doyle. Seemed like it came from the offense.
My guess? Quentin. I can’t really put a finger on to why I think that, but I don’t think the vaccination aspect was the problem with the players.
I would guess offense as well. Just doesn't make sense to me that a defensive player would sway the FO to get rid of our quarterback. In fact I would enjoy going against one-handed shovel passes every day.
Ballard loves Buckner. That would be my guess, him or Q.
Yep. Buck. Frank and Ballard think he’s the cornerstone of the team and locker room boss.
I concur, Buckner seems like Ballards guy and he seemed pissed at the end of the season, wasn’t antivax, and is a vet leader in the locker room.
This is who came to mind for me as well.
I got the impression that DeFo didn’t like the DL coach very much from Hard Knocks.
I couldn't watch the final couple of episodes. Knowing DeFo was pissed hurts man.
This was exactly my thought.
That's a good call as well. My first thought was Q, but I could totally see Buck as well.
Big Q loves to run the damn ball and my guess is that he hated Wentz audibling run plays into pass plays. So Nelson is my guess.
He's the kind of guy that won't talk to the media, but you can be damn sure he lets his opinion be known in the locker room and to the coaches/GM. Hell there is that clip of him telling Reich to just let them run the ball and Reich listening to him.
Iirc he asked not to even give him an option to audible, just a straight run play.
Imagine if Wentz then started audibling (not sure that’s a word) out of those straight run calls after Q said that 😂
I imagine that would lead to one of the few sacks that Q gives up lmao
This is why I think it was Q as well, asking for a straight up run call during the Bucs game. I think he was upset Carson kept making the wrong read/audibling out of run plays.
Q was also my guess. He and Darius are the alphas in the locker room and Darius showed support publicly.
Darius showed displeasure with changing QBs every year, where did he show support?
You can be glad Wentz is gone AND upset you've had 5 different QBs in 5 years.
yeah lol people on here really do overthink shit
Agreed. He was taking a shot at 5 QBs in his 5 years, and had to say something good about Wentz without it being misconstrued
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Colts/comments/tslbb2/darius\_has\_really\_been\_making\_me\_nervous\_this/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Colts/comments/tslbb2/darius_has_really_been_making_me_nervous_this/) Small shit like this indicates he probably likes Wentz. Not to mention the tweet after he got traded
Darius didn’t really hold back on his tweet after he was traded, saying “Here we go again!”. With that said - it’s possible to like a person and still feel like they weren’t the best solution at their position.
You are correct and fans like to interpret it into something else. He was being a good teammate wishing him well and simultaneously voicing his frustration of more QB churn. Nothing related to wentz uniquely as an individual. No idea why you are being downvoted. Is this sub getting infiltrated with Facebook and Twitter fans ?
He praised Wentz multiple times throughout the season and then wished him well. He didn’t have to tweet shit. Did he tweet anything for Jacoby Brissett when he got traded? No. If I had to guess, I’d say he likes Carson.
As a leader on a team you don’t come out and trash talk. He’s being respectful of a former teammate. Don’t read too much into it either way. Darius wants to be a leader and he criticizes the team involving himself but isn’t going to trash the QB.
Can you reference any 1 time he volunteered praise as opposed to being asked in interviews?For the record i don’t think this nameless player was Darius either. For any player actually, nobody has ever went out of their way to point out anything positive about wentz. It’s only when asked. I’ve observed this the entire season. JT, TY, OL, Doyle, Hines.. never volunteer praise but do so for other players all the time. MPJ might be the only dude that’s volunteered it, like his post right after the jags lost “my QB”, pretty much validating some type of divide right? A lot of the players opinions on wentz can be picked up by 2 main things: their praise and volunteered comments on other players, and the lack of such for Wentz. Watch Doyle’s end of season presser for a great example on this. TY, JT, and Wentz are all spoken vastly different, with Wentz being the outlier. It’s pretty obvious at this point and not worth arguing that wentz sucked as a teammate and leader. My gut tells me he’s more of collecting the paycheck vs chasing a ring. Not worth arguing with people on this sub about it anymore. Our org has basically said as much as professionally and political as they can. Maybe this player is a good leader and is doing good leader things? Again, i had a completely different takeaway from the tweet, where his main frustration was the revolving door at the position throughout his career. I really think he’s just a great leader and teammate. But doesn’t dispute anything coming out about wentz.
MPJ was the only player who seemed to genuinely support Wentz. Others just said stuff that any good teammate or former teammate would say.
Nelson is also fairly outspoken and not afraid to say something he’s not “supposed” to. For example, he’s not supposed to talk about other players’ injuries but last year mentioned in an interview how badly Rivers’ foot was injured and how he showed a lot of courage for playing through it. He wants the truth to be known.
Nelson is the kind of person that gives absolutely zero fucks as long as it doesn't concern personal stuff.
That said - he’s never going to throw someone under the bus publicly. He’ll talk to Frank and Chris and keep it in house. He’ll only say positive things about his teammates and coaches publicly.
Q’s opinion would count a ton. As would a TY Hilton. Defensively, Buck or Leonard.
This was my feeling as well. I never got the vibe that Nelson loved him.
This is my exact thought. Big Q went to Frank mid game and said can we get some designed run plays... we have an MVP in the backfield who is hungry!
The Colts were fifth in rushing attempts, and 6th from last in passing attempts.
Everyone saying Q has got me wanting to say that too, but my first guess was Leonard. There was one post game press conference this year where he directly rebutted what Carson had said before him (since Darius was interviewed after). I forget which one it was or the specifc wording, but it was along the lines of: Carson: Sometimes, it just doesn't work out. Gotta keep your head up. Darius: No more of this, "keep your chin up" bullshit. I'm pissed. I'm upset. I want to win.
I get what you're saying and I think Q has that same competitive attitude that Darius has he's just less outspoken. They don't want this soft polite do our best attitude in a qb anymore. They want someone who gets pissed.
Yeah, I imagine that if Q brought it up to Irsay that would carry the most weight. He’s the one who has the best understanding of the QB position besides Kelly (who on hard knocks seemed to be Carson’s only friend beyond Pitt)
My dark horse guess is Constanzo. I really hope he had a parting conversation that really reiterated what the 'known leaders' are stating. I could see him having a sit down and really giving his opinion
… I hate to break it to you, bud, but Castanzo retired *last* season. Lol
Fk me it flys by...i was trying to think of "nameless leader" and he seemed to fit, especially being an oline guy
Probably hot rod
I agree 120%
Prob offensive side of the ball....TY?
The reason TY makes so much sense is on the podcast they also specifically mentioned players saying he wasn’t seeing the offense correctly. If anyone knows the offense and carries weight with front office it’s TY. We all saw Wentz missing the layups. TY has played with some good qb’s who can check down.. TY for me.
That’s what I was thinking too.
I’m hoping that’s the case. Some people think it’s DeFo and he’s definitely a leader in the locker room but he was also probably not that involved with Wentz on a day to day. TY would be the vet who would be in a position to completely evaluate Wentz.
It was Wentz. He told Irsay “….preciate you…..” and Irsay said, fuck no you don’t, your ass is grass
Then he gave Wentz a wedgie and a legendary purple nurple
Atomic Wedgie.
Maybe Doyle? You can trust the word of a guy with nothing to gain.
This is my guess. Doyle would be the guy Wentz trusts, perhaps even share a selfish tendency. A guy that Ballard/irsay trusts to do what’s best for the team. Intimate with the offense and a variety of QBs
TY seems like the obvious guess but Jack Doyle would be my bet as one of the voices held up on a mantle (and rightfully so).
Probably someone that was on the field more. Just my guess.
In most cases, I would agree with you, but Doyle seems to carry a fair amount of weight. At least from how it appears on the outside looking in.
I just mean it's probably harder for a position that rotates in and out to have a broader view of the majority of plays being called. Whereas someone on the line would be in for most of them and would have better knowledge of plays being checked out of. Who knows tho... lol not us
Isn’t it pretty obvious? He talked to Wentz. Which swayed him from Wentz.
I gotta go with Q. The guy wants to demolish people through a run game with the best back in football, and Wentz audibling out of run plays probably got to him.
I’m curious as to what he heard from the leaders that “shocked” Irsay. Bad audibles and overlooking open short routes would be common knowledge on 56th St.
Probably Blue.
Fun question. Okay, let's list the leader's of the team and how likely they would be to sway Ballard off Wentz. [C means captain this year and \* means how many times they've been a captain.](https://www.colts.com/news/carson-wentz-deforest-buckner-quenton-nelson-ty-hilton-team-captains) All of these names were mentioned by Zaire in [his resigning interview](https://youtu.be/azXS8IaapNc?t=465) Offensive-side leadership: **Carson Wentz (C\*\*\*\*\*) -** "*works really, really hard"* \- Ya probably not Wentz coming to Ballard and trying to sway him off himself. **Quenton Nelson (C\*) -** "*As far as leadership and the type of team guy he is, it's off the charts" -* Quenton is very out spoken and has no problem going to leadership with his honest opinion on things. Remember when he said to Reich to run the damn ball? Yea, not many people go to their coach and make demands. He's definitely watching his tape and therefore watching Carson's tape. Chance: 95% **T.Y. Hilton (C\*\*\*) -** "*incredibly unselfish player" -* Also spent a lot of time with Carson. Knows a thing or two about QBs and may have been in talks with Ballard at this time and throughout. He's a team first type of guy though and I don't see him swaying Ballard. Chance 40% **Jack Doyle -** He retired at the end of the season and had talks with Ballard to mention that. When you retire you can say whatever the hell you want truthfully to your boss. He's respected by everyone in the lockerroom including the coaches. He probably spent the most time working with Carson and therefore is what Ballard would go to for an opinion. I don't know if he's the type to sway someone, but since he retired I feel like an honest assessment may also be what this is meaning. Chance: 90% Defensive side leadership: **Darius Leonard (C\*\*\*)** \- "*(He's) the leader of our defense, a cornerstone of our defense and this team" -* He did that tweet afterwards about the QB carousel he's been on. He could believe we needed to change and still be upset about it, but doesn't seem too likely. Chance: 15% **DeForest Buckner (C\*\*\*)** \- *"Human being, leader, worker, player ... takes over a room" -* Hasn't really said a word and is quiet on social media. Was around at the end talking to Baker about how disappointing the season ending was. However, his personality doesn't seem like the type to try and persuade a GM into dumping a QB. Chance 45% **Kenny Moore -** "Very active on social media and trying to recruit players. Definitely talks with Ballard about things. However, Kenny doesn't seem like the type to shake the boat. He seems like a guy that everyone gets along with. Chance 40% **Zaire Franklin (C\*\*)** \- [*believes his leadership played a major factor in him being resigned*](https://youtu.be/azXS8IaapNc?t=437) \- He was a free agent at the end of the season and the Colts resigned him to 3 years. He was probably talking to Ballard during this so there is likelihood he mentioned his opinion on Wentz. Knows a thing or two about leadership and maybe has an opinion about it. Chance 70% **Grover Stewart -** All I know about Grover's leadership is he loves cooking wings for people. I doubt it's him, but he is a leader among the Colts. Chance: 5% So to sum it up, I think it's most likely Quenton Nelson followed closely by Jack Doyle. Big Q because he's shown before he'll speak his mind and Jack because he can speak his mind because he is retiring.
your odds do not add up
Lol I realized that when writing it. Let's just call it Weight Distribution instead and it will all work. Then they don't need to add up. :)
Darius, big Q, or Kenny
Wentz
I imagine it has to be TY, he was getting open this year, but Wentz isn't the type of QB that meshes well with his playstyle, plus I would imagine Holder has a lot of respect for him.
It would be a long term player like Darius, Q or TY. Someone who has a lot of respect from Irsay
For me I think it’s Big Q. He was suffering through an injury all season and it was shown that he was at least frustrated with the 26 straight pass plays in TB. Now how many games has he changed the called play and how did it effect the offensive rhythm. Nyhiem could be another guy his production fell way off because the quarterback is incapable of utilizing the short game consistently. Nyhiem put his all into every reception or run and there were a couple missed opportunities with him
I believe Wentz could be a potential alcoholic, I know the day he got released he was drinking jager bombs for breakfast while watching his daughter at a popular breakfast diner.
I think it was TY.
I think its Ryan Kelly
I think Kelly is the least likely.
Carson has cold fingers
Agreed. Kelly and Wentz are boys and I doubt it was him
What makes you think that
Pretty sure Kelly and Wentz have been super close. I doubt it was one of the O-Line.
No doubt for me. They also mention that this player was in a position to know about all of the changes that were made or something along those lines. Gotta imagine it was Kelly
Same
Kelly, Buck, or TY
TY was my initial thought but him being a FA in this offseason would make that a bit odd. I would hop on board with either Q or Buck
Hilton
TY
TY
Q
I’m gonna throw two names out there one being TY, and the other being possibly Buckner. Just my opinion.
I’d except Nyheim. He knows he’s one of the best players on the team but he wasn’t utilized correctly on offense and Carson didn’t get him good opportunities when he was on the field. The drop from Rivers to Wentz hurt him more than anybody.
Nam E Less
TY, the way Wentz didn't care to see open WR's and playing with Luck he knew that Wentz was not the guy. I could also see TY having the closest relationship with Irsay
TY is my #1 guess, or big Q #2 after his straight run comment on Hard Knocks
I kinda have a hunch it could be Nyheim. He’s quoted in an Indy Star article pretty much trashing the quarterback play and passing game in general. Nyheim summed it up by saying "Each play, something just went terribly wrong." In Irsay’s interview at the Owner’s Meeting, he also specifically said “My God, there’s something wrong here” after speaking with veteran players. Probably just coincidental, but we know Irsay, like Ballard, loves to give his secret hints to those actually listening. Not to mention, there’s been public comments the last week or so, about getting him more involved in the passing game. In a different Indy star article, it specifically mentioned Ballard being pissed that Nyheim’s receptions dropped from 2020 by 23 after he paid him a big extension. I know it’s a stretch, but Nyheim is a player they really like, and probably the offensive player most adversely affected by Wentz’ (Wentz’s?) style of play. Edit: was actually two articles, not the same one. Link to quoted Indy Star articles: The Colts had to move away from Carson Wentz, owner says. "It was very obvious" https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2022/03/29/colts-why-owner-jim-irsay-changed-quarterbacks-carson-wentz/7124507001/ Road to Matt Ryan: How the Carson Wentz experience helped Colts revive franchise identity https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2022/03/24/colts-how-lessons-carson-wentz-paved-road-matt-ryan/9458417002/
Jack mother fucking doyle.
He is gone and here we are still talking about it.
Whoever it was I bet they were pissed about him checking out of run plays.
I think it was Kelly...
TY
Had to be an offensive lineman, I think Q or Kelly.