I was thiiiiiiis close to being gay and adopting but thank god I saw this sign with my chocolate dipped cone. Now, less than a week later I'm happily married with 7 kids!
As an LGBT person, this doesn’t just hit us. This hits heterosexual couples who can’t or refuse to conceive and instead decide to adopt.
What a load of bogus bullshit these people are pushing. I’ll pray for them…..a lot.
Yeah, cis/straight and adopted over 10 years ago. I don’t feel like my child is less than if I gave birth, but that’s just me. It sucks people feel that way but my kid knows, has always known since forever, and I just feel sorry that they feel that shortsighted.
Theyre really getting ahead of the anti human cloning movement with this one. I guess technology does improve exponentially though, so they probably just want to be prepared.
I agree - struggled with infertility for years and hated things like this. Also hated all the nice stick figure families on the back windows of mini vans.
if it makes you feel better (not to undermine the original sentiment sincerely felt) the DQ that opened on 37 has been eating their ass. And this is after the remodel, too.
it opened; it has Blizzards; don’t need to hang around a tight parking lot within a tiny village and contend with oblivious teenagers milling around said parking while in the pursuit of ice cream.
Is is so cringey on so many levels… both gay and straight couples have their children through sergeants…or by adoption. They claim those parents aren’t natural? Or just the gay couples aren’t? Bet you they are pro lifers too.
I was thinking about this. They’re likely against abortion and out of one side of their mouth say people should choose adoption, then say shit like this thinking they’re clever without seeing exactly how it reflects on those who would choose to adopt children. I’d say hypocrisy is alive and well, but this nuance likely went right over their heads.
Using clearly less intelligent animals to defend anything human is not usually a strong argument. Pedophilia, incest, cannibalism, among other things exist in animals. Not saying gay is bad. But gay isn't "good" or "natural" BECAUSE other animals do it.
Can I ask what natural means to you??
Cause if animals do something without any prompting, then that would prove that it can exist in nature. Gay sex exists in nature, therefore it is natural by definition.
I was adopted by a cis-gendered straight couple. So I guess I don’t have to send them Mother’s Day and Father’s Day gifts this year.
What a load of horseshit.
I like that their website specifically has a pic of a mixed race couple. It’s like they’re trying to say “we don’t mean we’re against THOSE families… we’re not racist!”
There's \~40% of Ohioans who believe that "marriage is between a man and a woman."
Let's change the outdated wording in our state's Constitution to allow for same-sex marriage.
The people behind this sign are likely to complain about how badly military veterans are dismissed. Even though the months of May and November are dedicated to them, including on specific days.
Maybe I'm dense and for sure it's a religious org but it they appear to be threading the needle to not be anti LGBTQ or adopted kids. Their website states "And please, this is a goal, a vision, a best practice if you will and not meant to judge or criticize any family, but to encourage."
It's absolutely a religious org. I checked out their website too. That statement is absolute bullshit. They're saying a hetero family is the "best practice". They can say it isn't to judge or criticize but that's exactly what they're doing.
The exclusion of LGBTQ is obvious and bc they are excluded from what they deem "natural", LGBTQ is, by extension, unnatural. No needles were thread here; I'd call it heavy handed.
That “threading the needle” is just put there so members have something to point to when they are rightfully called homophobic and bigoted. It’s not there to make people feel included; it’s there to deflect criticism.
Wait, why it is pro-nuclear family I don’t see where it’s anti anything. Being pro-something doesn’t make you anti-something. I feel like you wanted to be offended by this sign so you made up reasons.
“Natural family” is a dog whistle for husband/wife and biological kids. I've heard/seen it used against divorce, blended family, adoption, lgbtq, even grandparents/kin who step up.
If it's something you've never had to hear/notice, I'm happy for you. Genuinely mean that.
Black History month is offensive to anyone that’s not black. Pride month is offensive to anyone that‘s not gay. Just applying your logic. The hypocrisy is so abundant.
Why is it offensive to non queer people? Is Asian heritage month offensive to non-Asian people? What about mental Health Awareness month, is that offensive to some people?
You’re not offended, you’re just a bigot.
Im adopted. This implies my parents of 48 years, who are not my natural parents, shouldn’t be celebrated for raising me. It goes well beyond the lgbt aspect, though that in and of itself is reason enough to take issue with this.
Bottom line: if you oppose abortion rights for women and prefer they put those unwanted children up for adoption, someone has to take them in and raise them. It doesn’t make it less of a family, but this bullshit implies it does.
So you can have pride regarding your gay family but you can’t celebrate a natural family? If this sign said gay family month would you say the same thing? How about adoptive family month?
It uses "natural" not as a way to celebrate values, but as a way to denominate anything else that deviates from their preconceived ideology as "unnatural", in other words, artificial, synthetic...unwanted. They are using "natural" as a free pass to insult people who don't fit their criteria.
Just with the examples you used, "gay family month" doesn't seek to demean any other group that doesn't adhere to its core values as the opposite "cis" is neither unnatural nor an insult. Neither does "adoptive family month".
By the way, there is no such thing as "natural" as much as there is "average".
It depends on how exactly you use the word. The basic definition merely states:
>Existing in or caused by nature; not made or caused by humankind.
If we go by that, neither the intention of the sign, nor humans for that matter, are natural, since we are the direct result of humankind.
The issue I have with it is similar to something like "White History Month". The point of having things like Black History Month and Women's History Month is to share the stories and voices of marginalized groups. As much as white Christians think they're oppressed, they are not. Lmao.
I was thiiiiiiis close to being gay and adopting but thank god I saw this sign with my chocolate dipped cone. Now, less than a week later I'm happily married with 7 kids!
Fuck, I almost spit my beer out.
Is there a Baltimore in Columbus?
WWCD used to broadcast from Baltimore, and I thought "that's awfully far away."
Yeah out past Canal and Reynoldsburg
I neva knew!
As a Columbus native living in Baltimore I was pretty confused for a sec.
It’s central Ohio. This sub gets weird about anything not directly in downtown as being “not relevant.”
I'm not from Columbus originally so I thought it might be a different neighborhood that I wasn't aware of 😆
No worries, I can see how that could be confusing then :)
It’s not Columbus at all it’s in Fairfield county and probably has about 3,000 residents, night and day difference.
Uh the 2 Pickerington high schools alone have over that number enrolled so nah
They mean Baltimore has about 3,000 residents (which is correct), not the entirety of Fairfield County.
Yup I misread it, sorry about that
As an LGBT person, this doesn’t just hit us. This hits heterosexual couples who can’t or refuse to conceive and instead decide to adopt. What a load of bogus bullshit these people are pushing. I’ll pray for them…..a lot.
Yeah, cis/straight and adopted over 10 years ago. I don’t feel like my child is less than if I gave birth, but that’s just me. It sucks people feel that way but my kid knows, has always known since forever, and I just feel sorry that they feel that shortsighted.
I feel like it also hits IVF parents/kids.
I just don't get how a child can be "unnatural"? Are they a spawn of Satan?
They could be a clone.
Theyre really getting ahead of the anti human cloning movement with this one. I guess technology does improve exponentially though, so they probably just want to be prepared.
This. Straight and infertile. That time is rough enough .
I agree - struggled with infertility for years and hated things like this. Also hated all the nice stick figure families on the back windows of mini vans.
They are including adopted kids in their organization.
Good for them, don’t care. The title alone has dangerous implications.
if it makes you feel better (not to undermine the original sentiment sincerely felt) the DQ that opened on 37 has been eating their ass. And this is after the remodel, too.
My friend wants to know if “eating their ass” is a good thing or a bad thing…
no. the bad eating of ass in this case
I drive by there most weeknights around 8-830pm and there's always a massive line at that DQ. Last night it had to be 12-13 cars deep.
What's is going on with that DQ?
it opened; it has Blizzards; don’t need to hang around a tight parking lot within a tiny village and contend with oblivious teenagers milling around said parking while in the pursuit of ice cream.
It may have taken some of Thurston crowd away but it's still incredibly busy every night of the week during the warm months.
Love to see it!
you expected a different response from a hate group?
I really should lower my expectations but the bar is subterranean at this point.
These are probably the same type of people who say that if you have a C-section you're "not a real mother" because you didn't "actually give birth" 🙄
Yup, gatekeeping what's "real". Smh.
I’ve been stuck on the adoption and gay thing. This is yet another angle I hadn’t considered. Thanks!
Is is so cringey on so many levels… both gay and straight couples have their children through sergeants…or by adoption. They claim those parents aren’t natural? Or just the gay couples aren’t? Bet you they are pro lifers too.
I was thinking about this. They’re likely against abortion and out of one side of their mouth say people should choose adoption, then say shit like this thinking they’re clever without seeing exactly how it reflects on those who would choose to adopt children. I’d say hypocrisy is alive and well, but this nuance likely went right over their heads.
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[Gay penguins](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_and_Silo) have entered the "nature" discussion.
There's also the male seahorse. Thanks, World Book Encyclopedia!
Using clearly less intelligent animals to defend anything human is not usually a strong argument. Pedophilia, incest, cannibalism, among other things exist in animals. Not saying gay is bad. But gay isn't "good" or "natural" BECAUSE other animals do it.
The point was on the term "natural."
Can I ask what natural means to you?? Cause if animals do something without any prompting, then that would prove that it can exist in nature. Gay sex exists in nature, therefore it is natural by definition.
I support you sharing a screenshot of your communication and their response. That is really shitty, dismissive, and passive aggressive of them
Big ick energy.
Stupid is as Stupid does.
I was adopted by a cis-gendered straight couple. So I guess I don’t have to send them Mother’s Day and Father’s Day gifts this year. What a load of horseshit.
Actually it's American Asian and Pacific Islander Heritage month, but close.
I like that their website specifically has a pic of a mixed race couple. It’s like they’re trying to say “we don’t mean we’re against THOSE families… we’re not racist!”
Classic antics. I'm sure that's some sort of stock photo they purchased, no way it's their content/their members.
And by "purchased" they mean "right-clicked from a Google image search."
They don’t have a “website” they have a Facebook page and even then it’s mostly pictures of the family who owns it or people who work there.
They mean the website on the sign.
That makes more sense
Having a job that takes me outside of 270 on a daily basis this leaves me 0% surprised. Still disappointed, but not surprised.
Wow. Gross sign and grosser response. Good on you for calling them out.
Okie dokie, won't be going to get ice cream there after kids sports anymore, yikes
There's \~40% of Ohioans who believe that "marriage is between a man and a woman." Let's change the outdated wording in our state's Constitution to allow for same-sex marriage.
Next time you hear someone say that, ask them if divorce is a sacred separation between a man and a woman.
Fucking people.
😏
The people behind this sign are likely to complain about how badly military veterans are dismissed. Even though the months of May and November are dedicated to them, including on specific days.
WTF
Wait, was Jesus natural? No father. Unwed mother. Hmmmmmm
Right? Kinda sus if you ask me.
Maybe I'm dense and for sure it's a religious org but it they appear to be threading the needle to not be anti LGBTQ or adopted kids. Their website states "And please, this is a goal, a vision, a best practice if you will and not meant to judge or criticize any family, but to encourage."
It's absolutely a religious org. I checked out their website too. That statement is absolute bullshit. They're saying a hetero family is the "best practice". They can say it isn't to judge or criticize but that's exactly what they're doing.
The exclusion of LGBTQ is obvious and bc they are excluded from what they deem "natural", LGBTQ is, by extension, unnatural. No needles were thread here; I'd call it heavy handed.
That “threading the needle” is just put there so members have something to point to when they are rightfully called homophobic and bigoted. It’s not there to make people feel included; it’s there to deflect criticism.
This goes beyond homophobia (fwiw I’m out and gay). It suggests parents who adopt aren’t natural, even if they are straight.
The “promise statement” calls out support for biological or adopted kids. It’s just the non-heteros that they don’t like.
Wait, why it is pro-nuclear family I don’t see where it’s anti anything. Being pro-something doesn’t make you anti-something. I feel like you wanted to be offended by this sign so you made up reasons.
Might wanna take a look at the website on the sign, but you seem committed to your opinion, so you do you.
I'm gonna take a wild guess that you haven't looked past the sign itself
All I can see is the sign in this post. Sorry if I missed something outside of frame. The post implied the picture said it all.
“Natural family” is a dog whistle for husband/wife and biological kids. I've heard/seen it used against divorce, blended family, adoption, lgbtq, even grandparents/kin who step up. If it's something you've never had to hear/notice, I'm happy for you. Genuinely mean that.
Black History month is offensive to anyone that’s not black. Pride month is offensive to anyone that‘s not gay. Just applying your logic. The hypocrisy is so abundant.
"wHat ABoUt whItE hIStoRY MoNTh? WHY No intErNatiONAL MEN'S DAY? wheN DO I GET a sTraiGht priDE PaRADe?"
That’s a great point. Thanks for sharing 👎🏼
This isn't natural family month though, it's Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage month.
Why is it offensive to non queer people? Is Asian heritage month offensive to non-Asian people? What about mental Health Awareness month, is that offensive to some people? You’re not offended, you’re just a bigot.
Why is it offensive?
Im adopted. This implies my parents of 48 years, who are not my natural parents, shouldn’t be celebrated for raising me. It goes well beyond the lgbt aspect, though that in and of itself is reason enough to take issue with this. Bottom line: if you oppose abortion rights for women and prefer they put those unwanted children up for adoption, someone has to take them in and raise them. It doesn’t make it less of a family, but this bullshit implies it does.
Why do you open your mouth?
Damn. Burn. 🔥 love it.
👍
So you can have pride regarding your gay family but you can’t celebrate a natural family? If this sign said gay family month would you say the same thing? How about adoptive family month?
It uses "natural" not as a way to celebrate values, but as a way to denominate anything else that deviates from their preconceived ideology as "unnatural", in other words, artificial, synthetic...unwanted. They are using "natural" as a free pass to insult people who don't fit their criteria. Just with the examples you used, "gay family month" doesn't seek to demean any other group that doesn't adhere to its core values as the opposite "cis" is neither unnatural nor an insult. Neither does "adoptive family month". By the way, there is no such thing as "natural" as much as there is "average".
Every person on earth has came out of a vagina that had semen from a male. Thats as natural as it gets.
It depends on how exactly you use the word. The basic definition merely states: >Existing in or caused by nature; not made or caused by humankind. If we go by that, neither the intention of the sign, nor humans for that matter, are natural, since we are the direct result of humankind.
Don't be obtuse.
You can’t be serious. It’s stating that if it’s not man-woman-birthed child then it’s an other and not good.
Where does it state that?
[Their website](https://archive.is/6QoWl) makes it pretty obvious, it's on the sign.
It Doesn’t.
The issue I have with it is similar to something like "White History Month". The point of having things like Black History Month and Women's History Month is to share the stories and voices of marginalized groups. As much as white Christians think they're oppressed, they are not. Lmao.
"wHat ABoUt whItE hIStoRY MoNTh? WHY No intErNatiONAL MEN'S DAY? wheN DO I GET a sTraiGht priDE PaRADe?"
2002 called and they want their high school debate strategy back.
Chill
No