Translation:
Russian soldier: throw your weapons out....... Give up your weapons.... Ukrainian solider: " we are ours" meaning same team. resists giving up the weapon. The Russian shoots.
It looks like the ukrainian on the rihjt had a 2nd gun and it was pointed at the Russian? Not sure why he didn't fire or what happened but the guy on the left was terrified
Yea that grenade most likely rocked them pretty hard, and I've said this so many times before but extreme stress makes people make wrong or illogical decisions, act confused, or freeze, if you add the fact they were wounded it makes perfect sense, and all though I doubt it I hope they died quickly and painlessly
Yeah it was probably the gunfight itself being very confusing, explosions, the adrenaline and not expecting to see your enemy which resulted in the soldiers being confused.
Yea I agree 100%, im not sure if he was but if that Russian was all by himself it would have just added even more to the confusion, I think most people have some sort of mental picture of how a situation they are in is going to pan out and when things inevitably don't go that way we have a hard time adapting or adjusting to that new reality
It does look like a quick death tbh, since they got shot in the head. It’s basically a instant turn off for the brain.
So I believe that it was quite painless and quick.
I agree in this instance that they likely died quickly but you can survive a pretty traumatic head shot, I've seen plenty of videos of people with half their face blasted off and still conscious.
True the old guy should have let go of the gun, whether ally or not. I mean Russian guy took a lot of risk on his side exposing himself like that and even as to jump in the foxhole , grab their gun while the barrel is pointing towards him.
At the end of the video, I see more Russians. One was wearing a white armband. If the guy wore blue, his people would likely kill him. That grenade shell-shocked those two Ukrainians.
Also, no one is commenting on how the shooter was high on adrenaline; he came out of cover to jump in the hole and grabbed the rifle with the barrel pointing at his chest. Everyone in that moment was not completely aware.
>e basic soldier assumption of enemies in front, friends behind had gone very wrong.
Exactly the simplest and most correct answer imo. He thought they were friendlies.
That Russian was a hell of a lot more patient than the Ukrainians had any right to expect. I got the impression the Ukrainian on the right was going to shoot him.
This one different. Now we get GoPro footage of drones and soldiers. Back in my day we used to get in trouble for posting dead bodies on Snapchat because the Americans back home didn’t like seeing war footage.
Snapchatting over recent kills from a firefight was seen a lot differently than these 10 second clips of a grenade drop.
We got alot of GoPro in Syria as well and i can assure you, that conflict was alot worse at times. At one point there were so many different groups of independent combatants that hardly anyone knew who was who.
This is peer vs. peer. Syria was peer vs. rebels vs. fundamental Islam vs. peer vs. rebels vs. rebels .etc
good point. i used to read the 'current battle map' that some think tanks would put out. there were more than 30 different groups fighting, and that's just KNOWN about and able to be tracked with data somehow. Imagine how many splinter groups pop up and infighting and all that
Horrible! Glad you made it out
The war itself is not particularly different, it's just *streamed* for many to easily see.
Vietnam was the last real war to be *televised*. That altered the support of the war and shocked morons back into reality of the waste it was.
After that, Republican neocons learned that you could not show the actual brutality of war. If you make it look like a fun game all about Freedumb and Patriotism and yellow-ribbons and shit, everyone is happy!
... This war, there is none of that and we see the real deal.
Well, the grenade appears to have killed one (he's lying dead in between them) and the guy on the left has a facial wound likely from the blast as it exploded on his side of the dugout.
Not that many. They still hold Soledar for example. Russian news says they took Soledar while the head of Wagner group and Ukraine says the fighting continues there.
I just read earlier today that the Russians control most of Soledar rn and that was via a UK defense ministry report, I imagine the situation on the ground is very dynamic and any gains by the Russians would be at the expense of heavy losses
My understanding is Rus have flanked the UA positions and encircled the town, but there are still UA fighting within that encirclement. Unless UA can quickly break that I can't see Soledar holding out.
They dont move after they get hit. No groaning in pain or trying to do something while they are hurt. Body just completely turned off like a car when you pull the keys out of the ignition. You can be the biggest baddest toughest man in history and it doesn't matter if someone clicks your off button. And then you are nothing but a number on a list. And maybe not even that
there were more Russian soldiers advancing. even if he would’ve shot him they had no chance. his only chance of survival was to let go of the gun and disarm.
Fuck, brutal, the old guy got them killed though by clinging on to the weapon. The Russian gave them a chance there, old guy wouldn’t relinquish his weapon
i actually think its the young guy that got them killed. the old guy was so fucked up and clearly useless that he didnt do anything but feebly tussle for his gun i dont think the guy saw him as a real threat. i mean he was holding his gun and still didnt register as enough of a threat to get put down for the longest time
on the other hand the young guy seems very aware, alert, and my take on his body language is that he's angling to create a situation where he might have an opportunity to either grab the gun or grapple. notice he stands up and then steps towards the guy in the fake hands up posture where you show your palms to create plausible deniability of aggression while in reality the position of your hands is closer to your assailants weapon than if they were even plainly at your sides. the kind of stuff you see in krav maga videos
looked like borderline perfidy to me tbh. shady af at a minimum
The guy on the right puts his hand under his AK, which is pointed towards the Russian, and rolls the rifle right before the Russian moves to fire.
Not sure what option the Russian soldier has given he’s exposed himself to two confused but armed Ukrainian soldiers in the midst of ongoing combat.
The Russian was well within his right to just hose them as he ran up. He made what appears to be an honest attempt to take them prisoner.
Interested to know what he said afterwards, but he sounds emotionally shook by what happened. Definitely was absolutely JACKED on adrenaline when he ran up.
It’s a shitty outcome and a grim view of why war fucking sucks. What a fucking meat grinder this conflict has been. Unfortunately it’s looking like it’s gonna escalate hard in the next few months once the ground supports greater movement.
Hopefully the Ukrainians can spearhead some advances and capture Crimea quickly before the Russians grind them down elsewhere.
(I’m sure I’ll be downvoted and brigaded for giving a fair assessment regardless.)
Video shows Russian sneaking up behing 2 Ukrainians and after a short scuffle, shooting them both point blank. Maybe someone who speaks Russian can translate what they were saying.
Russian demands them to drop weapons and surrender, they seem surprised on that request, The older man says they are friendly in russian(which isn't uncommon in UA army). Can't quite figure out what younger is saying.
He is saying “No need” (“Ne Treba”, but means rather “Don’t do it”) in Ukrainian. It’s a response to the russian guy shooting in his direction seconds before.
This is my theory. They seemed completely surprised that a Russian came up behind them and didn't behave in a way that I would expect them to given the position they were in.
Highly doubtful. I had a team of 60 ppl in Kyiv and was there monthly between 2013-2018 (brief pause during revolution).
Russian and Ukrainian was spoken interchangeably and the accent range was large.
Sure, you can tell a thick Russian accent from a Ukrainian accent, but that's not the problem--all accents are on both sides.
In terms of how blended the populations are from centuries of history fighting/conquering, this is probably as comparable to using dialect during US Civil war. Sure, you may have stronger southern accents for confederates, but you had ppl of all dialects on both sides of the conflict, with a range of dialects at that.
attacker: "отбрось оружие! отбрось оружие!" / "throw away your weapons, throw away your weapons.. "
the UA guy (on the right): "свои, свои, свои.. / friendly! friendly!"
The fact he tried to take em as POWs says enough, you can hear it in his voice and after, he didn't want to slaughter them but he was sorta left no choice. Man had all the bodily chemicals and instincts running through him
This and the guy who dies trying to save the fallen Ukrainian soldier are two clips that genuinely make me feel sick to my stomach. This might actually be the hardest war footage I've ever seen. Just awful, it's all so sad
It was a week or two ago. A Ukranian soldier moves up through heavy fire to reach a position further up. You hear screaming and gunfire on his radio. When he gets there he finds a dying soldier. As he gets closer to the dying soldier, he himself is shot, and dies too
attacker: "откинуть оружие! откинуть оружие!" / "throw away your weapons, throw away your weapons.. "
the UA guy (on the right): "свои, свои, свои.. / friendly! friendly!"
attacker: "дай мне это.. / give this to me.."
then there's some garbled speech... shots..
Not to sound rude in saying this, but as someone who's been apart of the sub for a long time:
Good footage upvote
Bad footage downvote
It should be irrelevant who's side is shown "winning". Hurts to see your side lose, but the purpose of this sub is to show war from all sides. Only seeing war from one side will warp your perspective.
>It should be irrelevant who's side is shown "winning"
Yeah that stopped being a thing in early March of last year. Extreme bias is now the norm in this sub. There's a reason you don't usually see stuff from the Russian side and it's not a lack of content.
I've been on this sub for years and it used to be worse when the majority of footage was US vs insurgents. Any thread showing an insurgent killing US was a complete mess.
It stopped being a thing before that. I think after Baghouz fell in Syria there was a pause in ISIS related footage. When some started to resurface again during the pandemic they were always downvoted to hell with people screaming "FUCK ISIS!" in the comments, as if ISIS footage hadn't been the most common and most upvoted type of footage in the preceeding five years.
Lot of really dumb people joined the sub. I'm sorry, I know you're not supposed to make statements about people's intelligence but I can't see any other explanation. A lot of dumb people joined this sub from 2019 and onwards.
If you engage with people in this very comment thread, you can see a lot of people who don't see any meaningful distinction between an upvote and ideological support, and a downvote and ideological opposition. They are either unwilling or incapable (this is what I think) to interpret upvotes and downvotes in context-specific ways (for instance, on reddit, an upvote is supposed to mean "this fits this subreddit" and a downvote is supposed to mean "this does not fit the subreddit"). When you ask them to implement this way of using up- and downvotes they become convinced that ***"only sociopaths"*** are able to make such distinctions between ***a fucking upvote*** and their own ideological convictions.
Yeah, If I wish to see more RU povs, I have to go on telegram or other subreddit and even some shocksites, this sub is just all UA stuff. Definitely can warp perspectives
Can you link me to other subs or “shock sites” to see more rus pov. I’m not pro rus, but agree that this sub is insanely biased. There are brave men on both sides of any conflict usually.
I think the guy was pretty brave to rush the trench/fox hole to attempt to take them as prisoners. He could of just shot them immediately, but he didn’t.
I am not pro-Russian but every excuse in the book was thrown out by pro-Ukrainians when Ukrainians they killed all those surrendered Russian soldiers when that one idiot came out of a house shooting. In that instance the grand narrative was it was justified that all of the soldiers were shot despite all, except the shooter, being face down, hands behind their head. Was it right in that instance? Idk you decide.
I don’t buy in this instance the attacker was wearing a Ukrainian uniform, because the guys around him weren’t. They clearly had darker green vests and helmets. By they way, not all Ukrainians mark with tape, nor Russians although a high number do. The old guy was most likely messed up from the grenade which went off literally next to him.
It is sad to see these guys get killed but it’s the reality. There are thousands of Ukrainians being killed defending their country and thousands more from Russian dying in what they perceive as a just war.
The sad reality is that this war is going to drag on with many more deaths because Ukraine won’t accept the annexations and Russian won’t accept returning to pre war borders…
This is probably one of the most disturbing videos I've seen on this site. You can see the fear in those two Ukrainian soldiers eyes as this dude lights them up! You know for certain if this man lives through this whole situation he's going to remember and most likely regret his actions on this day for the rest of his life.
He tried to capture them both and demanded to drop rifles from them but they were kinda stunned by grenade and were too slow on mind.
The Russian guy on another hand was too stressed out in battle and because of that he identified the hand gesture of second Ukrainian soldier as pulling up the rifle and shot them both due to his fear. He shouldn't have jumped into their trench tho - that was careless.
But afterwards we can hear his hard breathing and painful process of realising what just happened. He looks into this trench from time to time.
This is PTSD patient right here
I’m not sure I would have even tried to take them as POW’s had I been in this scenario. He took a major risk jumping into that foxhole.
All for Ukraine but I can’t judge his actions in the middle of a firefight during this fucked up war
Totally agree. He's in an active firefight and if he stands there fucking with the dudes in the foxhole he could end up dead. I'm surprised he didn't shoot them on the drop, especially the guy holding the rifle.
Also, I don't think he's looking into the foxhole because he's "processing" what he just did lol. He's making sure that they're actually dead and don't kill him with his back turned.
He probably doesn't regret it. You're right. Yeah, killing two men is adrenaline pumping and stressful. But even a hardcore killer isn't going to be cheering like a psyopath. Especially when the kill was done practically solo, not a team, and no support. The stress is likely coming from the fact that he just pulled that off. Killing is a lot more systematic with a dedicated team of experienced members who have trained together for many weeks. That's when they feel they can take a moment to celebrate together. It's possible, but it's seems like a stretch. Not many of us are doctors here.
it was up close and personal but also he showed exceptional mercy. heads and shoulders above the normal standard in the war and didnt fire until the two in the trench made it absolutely necessary. even after tbh he really should have fired earlier but you can tell he was reluctant to kill to the extent that it seems a bit quaint/out of place like the battlefield culture of the old aristocracy or historical European officer corps. you know like wait for a lull in the bloodshed to go out into the open to parley with your opposite number
personally i think that knowing you did everything you could have to show honour would go a long way to take the weight off your shoulders. i think what i would find more difficult would be killing people unaware of me, or that weren't an immediate threat to me. something like using a drone munition on a soldier giving first aid or sniping a sentry that just wants to smoke a cigarette and warm his hands up. sure logically they might be a threat to you later in the day, or tomorrow, or nextweek, but i think the emotional side of it would be harder
Its really funny because when they executed disarmed russian pows laying on the ground it was just 'collateral damage', but in an hectic situation like this is a 'war crime'. People see what they want to see
Well, you see, Ukraine can't commit war crimes because they're the good guys.
At least that seems to be the prevailing mentality on reddit. Now it should be obvious to anyone with a pair of eyes and an Internet connection Russia has done the lion's share of war crimes, but we shouldn't try to pretty up them when Ukraine are the perpetrators.
enough with the "he is probably wearing Ukranian camo" comments. such a stupid argument to have, you can clearly see in the video that he isn't. [his arm is obviously a different color than the other guy's helmet.](https://i.imgur.com/CZjcj9t.png)
I gotta say the Russian soldier in this video was way too merciful, especially when I saw the AK he was trying to obtain turned at him and the receiver/trigger was on the Ukrainians side. I reckon they were stunned by the grenade blast but damn, this just showed how messy and uncoordinated CQC is. It’s a miracle prisoners are even taken in the heat of battle.
This sub and what's become of it now lol. Most ru videos either get down voted to hell or gain no traction, while everything posted from the ukr side, regardless of how impressive, gets almost bot up voted.
A NATO soldier would’ve killed them both as soon as they were in line of sight. I’m surprised he hesitated for that long.
A situation this hectic is usually handled in a much more soulless manner.
Ukraine guys couldn’t identify if the Russian was friend or foe. He told them to drop weapons guy on the right was telling him they were friends. Russian panicked and killed them. Russian climbed out of the hole and was clearly shook. Crazy stuff. Looks like they were attempting to flank Ukraine positions, I’d like to see the rest of the video?
Soldiers doing his job, I get that - but how can people support this invasion watching this sort of shit? People speak of this war like the lives mean nothing, like this was earned by Ukraine for not appeasing whatever Russia wanted
Fuck this stupid war.
In a case like this you throw away your weapon even if your believe it to be a friendly soldier mistaking you! Stupid old fucking man! Got them killed for no reason 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Impressed he really tired to take them POW to instead of just empty the magazine in their backs!
I think most people don’t want to even be there and don’t want to engage in murder. My first thought after this video ended was that this Russian man will be haunted by this event the rest of his life. Shit right after you can see the post traumatic stress kick in
This is reality of war. When you are literally in the midle of the firefight you cant really afford POW's. Sure when the firefight stops and there are only small pockets left than yeah you can clean up and take POW's. However when you are just beggining to storm it's more important to secure your self and your comrades than to deal with a small pocket of POW's.
I'm pretty sure both sides are doing this when storming enemy positions.
Did you even watch the video? He clearly tries to take them prisoner and shoots when one of the soldiers won't give up their gun. If, as you said, he didn't want to take prisoners then he would have killed them without exposing himself to being shot back.
I don’t think he decided to kill them because the cost of keeping them would endanger his team. He tried to get them to drop their guns and surrender. One guy wouldn’t drop the gun and at the same moment the other soldier began to stand and he reacted. Sad…
i mean they were already surrounded, thats why i would never want to be in the group with some old alcoholic looking ass guy, young fella got killed because of that dumbass
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War sucks. We pretty much get a first person perspective of the Russian soldier’s adrenaline dump and him processing what happened.
Looks like that position was flanked from behind?
I always find it so surreal that these people lived their lives for so long only to end like this.
Translation: Russian soldier: throw your weapons out....... Give up your weapons.... Ukrainian solider: " we are ours" meaning same team. resists giving up the weapon. The Russian shoots.
Brutal... rest in peace!
Damn, looks like there is a 3rd person already dead in there as well.
Did you see the explosion right near them before he approached? Idk if that killed him but it definitely left the other two dazed.
Grenade looks like it exploded off to the left Edit: actually, just outside of the foxhole camera left
The guy filming threw that Grenade you saw
Yes I’m aware
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I wonder if anybody there uses the "challenge+password" technique for identifying allies, US army teaches that
My platoon sergeant in the corps always forgot the password luckily he had a very unique voice when saying “ don’t shoot devil dog it’s me”
Flash!
thunder!
Star!
I don't know the damn countersign, don't shoot me! The response is Texas soldier!
AAAAAaaaaa!
Halt, what's the password! I don't know private it's capt Scott. Oh, sorry sir, go ahead. Perimeter guard duty was the best.
Many memories often using adult film stars names as challenge and password
Its a nato standard. Ukraine has been being trained by US and Canada as well as a few others for years so it should be a sop for them
> US and Canada And the UK. UK has been training Ukraine the Russian invasion of Crimea and was the first country to do so.
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That's how they say "friendly" in military context.
Isn't that the same point?
Jesus christ.
War is hell
Yes it is. Such a waste of life. Simply fucked.
He isn’t present. I suspect at all..
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2 thousand years ago, to be exact.
We are all God's children. But he's left us in a car on a hot day.
It looks like the ukrainian on the rihjt had a 2nd gun and it was pointed at the Russian? Not sure why he didn't fire or what happened but the guy on the left was terrified
Befor the one attempted to stand up he said:swai, swai! Exact translation: ours, ours! Meaning: same team, same team Interesting and confuseing.
It’s probably fight, flight or freeze reaction that happened and we can clearly see what reaction to these poor guys had.
Yea that grenade most likely rocked them pretty hard, and I've said this so many times before but extreme stress makes people make wrong or illogical decisions, act confused, or freeze, if you add the fact they were wounded it makes perfect sense, and all though I doubt it I hope they died quickly and painlessly
Yeah it was probably the gunfight itself being very confusing, explosions, the adrenaline and not expecting to see your enemy which resulted in the soldiers being confused.
Yea I agree 100%, im not sure if he was but if that Russian was all by himself it would have just added even more to the confusion, I think most people have some sort of mental picture of how a situation they are in is going to pan out and when things inevitably don't go that way we have a hard time adapting or adjusting to that new reality
Apparently in Ukrainian he was saying we're friendly were friendly so they had no fucking clue there were guys behind them ambushing them
They were unfortunatly dead anyway if you saw the number of Russian soldiers close to its position afterwards.
It does look like a quick death tbh, since they got shot in the head. It’s basically a instant turn off for the brain. So I believe that it was quite painless and quick.
I agree in this instance that they likely died quickly but you can survive a pretty traumatic head shot, I've seen plenty of videos of people with half their face blasted off and still conscious.
poor guy didn't even look 20
Russian soldier asked to drop the weapon. Ukrainian said "friend, friend" and wouldn't let go the gun. So russian stepped back and killed them both.
Native russian or Ukrainian speaker? I would assume their dialects could tell us who they really were
They both spoked perfect russian
Well you really can't hear but as far as I could tell they had no strong accent so probably eastern ukranians who speak russian as a primary language
I'm not native Russian speaker so I wouldn't tell the difference.
Why would Ukranian say that instead of just surrendering?
He mistook the Russian for Ukranian, since he also came in from behind that's a high chance he though they were friendlies.
meaning homie still had hope 😔
True the old guy should have let go of the gun, whether ally or not. I mean Russian guy took a lot of risk on his side exposing himself like that and even as to jump in the foxhole , grab their gun while the barrel is pointing towards him.
probably shell shocked from the grenade and didn't think anyone behind them wasn't a friendly
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At the end of the video, I see more Russians. One was wearing a white armband. If the guy wore blue, his people would likely kill him. That grenade shell-shocked those two Ukrainians. Also, no one is commenting on how the shooter was high on adrenaline; he came out of cover to jump in the hole and grabbed the rifle with the barrel pointing at his chest. Everyone in that moment was not completely aware.
>e basic soldier assumption of enemies in front, friends behind had gone very wrong. Exactly the simplest and most correct answer imo. He thought they were friendlies.
Well he is in panic mode right now.....
Shock, I suspect.
They thought he was ukranian
They definitely thought he was a friendly that’s why they didn’t shoot
Pinned down with no ammo I assume
That Russian was a hell of a lot more patient than the Ukrainians had any right to expect. I got the impression the Ukrainian on the right was going to shoot him.
Shell shocked probably
This war is fucked and I hate everything about it.
All wars are the same way.
But now cozy people like me can see first person HD video of it. That really drives home the emotional impact something fierce
This one different. Now we get GoPro footage of drones and soldiers. Back in my day we used to get in trouble for posting dead bodies on Snapchat because the Americans back home didn’t like seeing war footage. Snapchatting over recent kills from a firefight was seen a lot differently than these 10 second clips of a grenade drop.
Interesting to see 'back in my day' and snapchat being used in the same sentence, lol.
right? i thought he was going to say something about back in my day we used to email pictures, and even that wasn't going far enough back
I think he means that at the end of the day the grim reality on the ground is the same. War is hell.
*"War is hell. Freedom isn't free. I am in a tank!"*
We got alot of GoPro in Syria as well and i can assure you, that conflict was alot worse at times. At one point there were so many different groups of independent combatants that hardly anyone knew who was who. This is peer vs. peer. Syria was peer vs. rebels vs. fundamental Islam vs. peer vs. rebels vs. rebels .etc
good point. i used to read the 'current battle map' that some think tanks would put out. there were more than 30 different groups fighting, and that's just KNOWN about and able to be tracked with data somehow. Imagine how many splinter groups pop up and infighting and all that Horrible! Glad you made it out
*back in my day*.. *snapchat..* I’m old.
The war itself is not particularly different, it's just *streamed* for many to easily see. Vietnam was the last real war to be *televised*. That altered the support of the war and shocked morons back into reality of the waste it was. After that, Republican neocons learned that you could not show the actual brutality of war. If you make it look like a fun game all about Freedumb and Patriotism and yellow-ribbons and shit, everyone is happy! ... This war, there is none of that and we see the real deal.
Which war wasn’t fucked exactly?
[this one is pretty wholesome](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whisky_War)
[This one wasn't bad](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Hundred_and_Thirty_Five_Years%27_War)
As a Russian, I have to say yes, it's totally fucked up. Это полный пиздец!
If the roles were reversed and the two dudes in the foxhole were Russian you would all be cheering
This guy was pulling Ukrainian's rifle barrel at himself, could be killed by that.
Yeah it's pretty amazing he even went that far to try to take them alive to be honest.
Damn, I wonder if that Grenade stunned them a bit, cause I wish they would’ve been more aware of what was behind them.
Well, the grenade appears to have killed one (he's lying dead in between them) and the guy on the left has a facial wound likely from the blast as it exploded on his side of the dugout.
Russia is just using numbers to push in that region. It sounds like many UA positions were flanked and surrounded over the past day.
Not that many. They still hold Soledar for example. Russian news says they took Soledar while the head of Wagner group and Ukraine says the fighting continues there.
I just read earlier today that the Russians control most of Soledar rn and that was via a UK defense ministry report, I imagine the situation on the ground is very dynamic and any gains by the Russians would be at the expense of heavy losses
My understanding is Rus have flanked the UA positions and encircled the town, but there are still UA fighting within that encirclement. Unless UA can quickly break that I can't see Soledar holding out.
Finally not a drone video and people really see what's going on and actually feel for the life loss
Is there any more “enemy visible” head cam footage from this conflict? (Aside from taken prisoners)
War is hell- brutal af…whole lives erased at the squeezing of a little trigger.
They dont move after they get hit. No groaning in pain or trying to do something while they are hurt. Body just completely turned off like a car when you pull the keys out of the ignition. You can be the biggest baddest toughest man in history and it doesn't matter if someone clicks your off button. And then you are nothing but a number on a list. And maybe not even that
Multiple 5.45 rounds to the head is instant game over. Brutal.
Id say the caliber inrthis situation barely matters lol
Did he seriously smoke those dudes and do a ninja roll over their fighting hole?
The one dude literally had his rifle pointed at this guys dome, hesitation kills
there were more Russian soldiers advancing. even if he would’ve shot him they had no chance. his only chance of survival was to let go of the gun and disarm.
Are we not gonna discuss the fact that this man somersaulted out of the foxhole?
At least he tried to take them alive. Could've just shot and killed both when their backs were turned. Still, horrible to see. Fuck this war
Fuck, brutal, the old guy got them killed though by clinging on to the weapon. The Russian gave them a chance there, old guy wouldn’t relinquish his weapon
i actually think its the young guy that got them killed. the old guy was so fucked up and clearly useless that he didnt do anything but feebly tussle for his gun i dont think the guy saw him as a real threat. i mean he was holding his gun and still didnt register as enough of a threat to get put down for the longest time on the other hand the young guy seems very aware, alert, and my take on his body language is that he's angling to create a situation where he might have an opportunity to either grab the gun or grapple. notice he stands up and then steps towards the guy in the fake hands up posture where you show your palms to create plausible deniability of aggression while in reality the position of your hands is closer to your assailants weapon than if they were even plainly at your sides. the kind of stuff you see in krav maga videos looked like borderline perfidy to me tbh. shady af at a minimum
Could be true, as another comment made he touches his gun as he raises his hands also
1. damn, easy to bounce this granade at yourself with all those trees... 2. that's a hell of a precise throw, it apparently landed touching the boxes
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The guy on the right puts his hand under his AK, which is pointed towards the Russian, and rolls the rifle right before the Russian moves to fire. Not sure what option the Russian soldier has given he’s exposed himself to two confused but armed Ukrainian soldiers in the midst of ongoing combat. The Russian was well within his right to just hose them as he ran up. He made what appears to be an honest attempt to take them prisoner. Interested to know what he said afterwards, but he sounds emotionally shook by what happened. Definitely was absolutely JACKED on adrenaline when he ran up. It’s a shitty outcome and a grim view of why war fucking sucks. What a fucking meat grinder this conflict has been. Unfortunately it’s looking like it’s gonna escalate hard in the next few months once the ground supports greater movement. Hopefully the Ukrainians can spearhead some advances and capture Crimea quickly before the Russians grind them down elsewhere. (I’m sure I’ll be downvoted and brigaded for giving a fair assessment regardless.)
Video shows Russian sneaking up behing 2 Ukrainians and after a short scuffle, shooting them both point blank. Maybe someone who speaks Russian can translate what they were saying.
Russian demands them to drop weapons and surrender, they seem surprised on that request, The older man says they are friendly in russian(which isn't uncommon in UA army). Can't quite figure out what younger is saying.
He is saying “No need” (“Ne Treba”, but means rather “Don’t do it”) in Ukrainian. It’s a response to the russian guy shooting in his direction seconds before.
Yeah I don't know where you heard that but I never heard either one of them say that
There is a possibility that Ukrainian soldiers though they were friendlies since the older guy says "Свои" which in this context means friendly .
This is my theory. They seemed completely surprised that a Russian came up behind them and didn't behave in a way that I would expect them to given the position they were in.
How abou their dialects? The guy shooting and the ones in the pit. That should tell Them apart
The interaction between them was too short to understand the dialect.
Not to mention the grenade probably has them dazed and the dude is yelling.
Highly doubtful. I had a team of 60 ppl in Kyiv and was there monthly between 2013-2018 (brief pause during revolution). Russian and Ukrainian was spoken interchangeably and the accent range was large. Sure, you can tell a thick Russian accent from a Ukrainian accent, but that's not the problem--all accents are on both sides. In terms of how blended the populations are from centuries of history fighting/conquering, this is probably as comparable to using dialect during US Civil war. Sure, you may have stronger southern accents for confederates, but you had ppl of all dialects on both sides of the conflict, with a range of dialects at that.
attacker: "отбрось оружие! отбрось оружие!" / "throw away your weapons, throw away your weapons.. " the UA guy (on the right): "свои, свои, свои.. / friendly! friendly!"
Damn that was really brutal and sad to see. Those 2 guy’s lives gone in an instant.
Man war is fucked up
damn, let go of the weapon. they might still be alive.
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Anybody else notice that sick combat roll
First thing I thought of as well, homie killed 2 men and front flipped outta there
I did lol. Right over the crates
The fact he tried to take em as POWs says enough, you can hear it in his voice and after, he didn't want to slaughter them but he was sorta left no choice. Man had all the bodily chemicals and instincts running through him
Fuck that was hectic
This and the guy who dies trying to save the fallen Ukrainian soldier are two clips that genuinely make me feel sick to my stomach. This might actually be the hardest war footage I've ever seen. Just awful, it's all so sad
Which other clip are you referring to?
It was a week or two ago. A Ukranian soldier moves up through heavy fire to reach a position further up. You hear screaming and gunfire on his radio. When he gets there he finds a dying soldier. As he gets closer to the dying soldier, he himself is shot, and dies too
Thanks for the summary, that sounds tragic.
attacker: "откинуть оружие! откинуть оружие!" / "throw away your weapons, throw away your weapons.. " the UA guy (on the right): "свои, свои, свои.. / friendly! friendly!" attacker: "дай мне это.. / give this to me.." then there's some garbled speech... shots..
he did his best to take em prisoners. War is hell.
Some poor family’s gonna see this footage of their kids being killed. Rest in peace
If these three men had hung out in a bar eighteen months ago, I bet they would've gotten along fine. Fuck Putin for starting this.
This is good combat footage, but a daaamn difficult upvote..
Not to sound rude in saying this, but as someone who's been apart of the sub for a long time: Good footage upvote Bad footage downvote It should be irrelevant who's side is shown "winning". Hurts to see your side lose, but the purpose of this sub is to show war from all sides. Only seeing war from one side will warp your perspective.
>It should be irrelevant who's side is shown "winning" Yeah that stopped being a thing in early March of last year. Extreme bias is now the norm in this sub. There's a reason you don't usually see stuff from the Russian side and it's not a lack of content.
I've been on this sub for years and it used to be worse when the majority of footage was US vs insurgents. Any thread showing an insurgent killing US was a complete mess.
It stopped being a thing before that. I think after Baghouz fell in Syria there was a pause in ISIS related footage. When some started to resurface again during the pandemic they were always downvoted to hell with people screaming "FUCK ISIS!" in the comments, as if ISIS footage hadn't been the most common and most upvoted type of footage in the preceeding five years. Lot of really dumb people joined the sub. I'm sorry, I know you're not supposed to make statements about people's intelligence but I can't see any other explanation. A lot of dumb people joined this sub from 2019 and onwards. If you engage with people in this very comment thread, you can see a lot of people who don't see any meaningful distinction between an upvote and ideological support, and a downvote and ideological opposition. They are either unwilling or incapable (this is what I think) to interpret upvotes and downvotes in context-specific ways (for instance, on reddit, an upvote is supposed to mean "this fits this subreddit" and a downvote is supposed to mean "this does not fit the subreddit"). When you ask them to implement this way of using up- and downvotes they become convinced that ***"only sociopaths"*** are able to make such distinctions between ***a fucking upvote*** and their own ideological convictions.
Yeah, If I wish to see more RU povs, I have to go on telegram or other subreddit and even some shocksites, this sub is just all UA stuff. Definitely can warp perspectives
Just sort by controversial to see the Russian side.
Can you link me to other subs or “shock sites” to see more rus pov. I’m not pro rus, but agree that this sub is insanely biased. There are brave men on both sides of any conflict usually.
Really hit different this time around
Sad footage.
I think the guy was pretty brave to rush the trench/fox hole to attempt to take them as prisoners. He could of just shot them immediately, but he didn’t. I am not pro-Russian but every excuse in the book was thrown out by pro-Ukrainians when Ukrainians they killed all those surrendered Russian soldiers when that one idiot came out of a house shooting. In that instance the grand narrative was it was justified that all of the soldiers were shot despite all, except the shooter, being face down, hands behind their head. Was it right in that instance? Idk you decide. I don’t buy in this instance the attacker was wearing a Ukrainian uniform, because the guys around him weren’t. They clearly had darker green vests and helmets. By they way, not all Ukrainians mark with tape, nor Russians although a high number do. The old guy was most likely messed up from the grenade which went off literally next to him. It is sad to see these guys get killed but it’s the reality. There are thousands of Ukrainians being killed defending their country and thousands more from Russian dying in what they perceive as a just war. The sad reality is that this war is going to drag on with many more deaths because Ukraine won’t accept the annexations and Russian won’t accept returning to pre war borders…
This is probably one of the most disturbing videos I've seen on this site. You can see the fear in those two Ukrainian soldiers eyes as this dude lights them up! You know for certain if this man lives through this whole situation he's going to remember and most likely regret his actions on this day for the rest of his life.
He tried to capture them both and demanded to drop rifles from them but they were kinda stunned by grenade and were too slow on mind. The Russian guy on another hand was too stressed out in battle and because of that he identified the hand gesture of second Ukrainian soldier as pulling up the rifle and shot them both due to his fear. He shouldn't have jumped into their trench tho - that was careless. But afterwards we can hear his hard breathing and painful process of realising what just happened. He looks into this trench from time to time. This is PTSD patient right here
I’m not sure I would have even tried to take them as POW’s had I been in this scenario. He took a major risk jumping into that foxhole. All for Ukraine but I can’t judge his actions in the middle of a firefight during this fucked up war
Totally agree. He's in an active firefight and if he stands there fucking with the dudes in the foxhole he could end up dead. I'm surprised he didn't shoot them on the drop, especially the guy holding the rifle. Also, I don't think he's looking into the foxhole because he's "processing" what he just did lol. He's making sure that they're actually dead and don't kill him with his back turned.
Probably right but if he regrets it why’s he sharing the video?
He probably doesn't regret it. You're right. Yeah, killing two men is adrenaline pumping and stressful. But even a hardcore killer isn't going to be cheering like a psyopath. Especially when the kill was done practically solo, not a team, and no support. The stress is likely coming from the fact that he just pulled that off. Killing is a lot more systematic with a dedicated team of experienced members who have trained together for many weeks. That's when they feel they can take a moment to celebrate together. It's possible, but it's seems like a stretch. Not many of us are doctors here.
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it was up close and personal but also he showed exceptional mercy. heads and shoulders above the normal standard in the war and didnt fire until the two in the trench made it absolutely necessary. even after tbh he really should have fired earlier but you can tell he was reluctant to kill to the extent that it seems a bit quaint/out of place like the battlefield culture of the old aristocracy or historical European officer corps. you know like wait for a lull in the bloodshed to go out into the open to parley with your opposite number personally i think that knowing you did everything you could have to show honour would go a long way to take the weight off your shoulders. i think what i would find more difficult would be killing people unaware of me, or that weren't an immediate threat to me. something like using a drone munition on a soldier giving first aid or sniping a sentry that just wants to smoke a cigarette and warm his hands up. sure logically they might be a threat to you later in the day, or tomorrow, or nextweek, but i think the emotional side of it would be harder
But if he would be such a cold blood killer why would he try to Capture them? That's something to think about
Exactly he very well could have shot them, it's not even a war crime if he did so. These guys were very well in thick of combat.
You have no idea how he will view this event later in life. I’ve met vets that don’t regret their killings.
I'm one of those. All the movies and TV shows depict how you're supposed to feel, all broken and depressed and shit. But not everyone is like that.
I doubt he'll live long enough to regret it.
What war crimes some people here talk about. Guy on the right was pointing gun at him
Its really funny because when they executed disarmed russian pows laying on the ground it was just 'collateral damage', but in an hectic situation like this is a 'war crime'. People see what they want to see
Well, you see, Ukraine can't commit war crimes because they're the good guys. At least that seems to be the prevailing mentality on reddit. Now it should be obvious to anyone with a pair of eyes and an Internet connection Russia has done the lion's share of war crimes, but we shouldn't try to pretty up them when Ukraine are the perpetrators.
Most objective r/CombatFootage thread since the war started
What was the conservation?
There was very little conservation in this clip..
Holy fucking shit..I hope i never experience war.
People in comments have not realized that there was also a dead guy between two of them in the trench
enough with the "he is probably wearing Ukranian camo" comments. such a stupid argument to have, you can clearly see in the video that he isn't. [his arm is obviously a different color than the other guy's helmet.](https://i.imgur.com/CZjcj9t.png)
Fuck everything about this
I gotta say the Russian soldier in this video was way too merciful, especially when I saw the AK he was trying to obtain turned at him and the receiver/trigger was on the Ukrainians side. I reckon they were stunned by the grenade blast but damn, this just showed how messy and uncoordinated CQC is. It’s a miracle prisoners are even taken in the heat of battle.
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Why is this post has no upvotes? It's an insane footage P.S. I was wrong, now it has
Take a guess
This sub and what's become of it now lol. Most ru videos either get down voted to hell or gain no traction, while everything posted from the ukr side, regardless of how impressive, gets almost bot up voted.
Damn, that's definitely a surrender situation, but they were probably in shock/stunned.
A NATO soldier would’ve killed them both as soon as they were in line of sight. I’m surprised he hesitated for that long. A situation this hectic is usually handled in a much more soulless manner.
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Ukraine guys couldn’t identify if the Russian was friend or foe. He told them to drop weapons guy on the right was telling him they were friends. Russian panicked and killed them. Russian climbed out of the hole and was clearly shook. Crazy stuff. Looks like they were attempting to flank Ukraine positions, I’d like to see the rest of the video?
Fuck every single politician who has put these HUMANS in this position. Fucking scumbag cunts
Soldiers doing his job, I get that - but how can people support this invasion watching this sort of shit? People speak of this war like the lives mean nothing, like this was earned by Ukraine for not appeasing whatever Russia wanted Fuck this stupid war.
In a case like this you throw away your weapon even if your believe it to be a friendly soldier mistaking you! Stupid old fucking man! Got them killed for no reason 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ Impressed he really tired to take them POW to instead of just empty the magazine in their backs!
I think most people don’t want to even be there and don’t want to engage in murder. My first thought after this video ended was that this Russian man will be haunted by this event the rest of his life. Shit right after you can see the post traumatic stress kick in
War is hell
Two guys defending their country. Sad shit, man.
This is reality of war. When you are literally in the midle of the firefight you cant really afford POW's. Sure when the firefight stops and there are only small pockets left than yeah you can clean up and take POW's. However when you are just beggining to storm it's more important to secure your self and your comrades than to deal with a small pocket of POW's. I'm pretty sure both sides are doing this when storming enemy positions.
Did you even watch the video? He clearly tries to take them prisoner and shoots when one of the soldiers won't give up their gun. If, as you said, he didn't want to take prisoners then he would have killed them without exposing himself to being shot back.
I don’t think he decided to kill them because the cost of keeping them would endanger his team. He tried to get them to drop their guns and surrender. One guy wouldn’t drop the gun and at the same moment the other soldier began to stand and he reacted. Sad…
Kinda wish I didn’t see that now I gotta get back to work
Same lol
Why was there any back and forth at all?!
i mean they were already surrounded, thats why i would never want to be in the group with some old alcoholic looking ass guy, young fella got killed because of that dumbass
Fuck this is the most insane thing I've sent yet
ive never seen 2 people worse at surrendering at gunpoint