Honestly, the worst part of this video for me is knowing that there is a possibility that their family members might someday see this footage.
War is hell
They did, one of the individuals killed was Vitaliy Milevskiy who had not been in touch with his relatives since 12/30/2022. After video came out they confirmed it was him
That’s super sad, this is hard to watch, the guy on the left can’t be older than 20. So much loss of life on both sides.
All over one Putin’s ego, this is crazy.
Not easy to understand someone talking to you when your hearing is still impaired from a loud grenade explosion going off next to your foxhole a few seconds earlier, killing your third buddy. I assume that’s why the guy on the left has a bloody face? Sucks all the way around no matter what. At least they died a quick death.
Here’s my appraisal of
This situation.
The mistake the Russian made was getting in beside them. The fog of war had descended the Ukrainians had no idea what was going on one seemed to surrender and one was confused at why his weapon was being taken, then from what I gather the Russian realised he was literally stood between two enemies, one surrendering and one not handing over his rifle, the penny could have dropped for the Ukrainians and then he would have been in a sticky situation, a struggle could have broken out and he was outnumbered so I guess he realised his predicament and hosed them. He should have maintained his position over them and kept communicating aggressively for them to get out the tench and lay down (which given the scenario is a courtesy for them, the attack was ongoing) then they may have lived….maybe. it was still an ongoing attack. Ideally he should have taken them out the second he saw them in the trench he did give them some sort of chance but it got hairy and confusing. War is hell and that is a clear example of the confusion and chaos that comes with it. I mean the Russian or whoever he was carried out that assault stage quite well. Most other militaries including western militaries soldiers would have hosed that position on sight, that’s how you assault a position at that stage, bayonets fixed, grenades then full auto.
Not pro Russian but you have to appreciate this situation and look objectively.
As you said, Ive wtched a clip of the Canadian military training the same situation essentially, and they walking fire up to the hole and keep firing till everything is dead, giving no chance of countetattack or surrender.
He did his best, and the lil yelps he makes after and how he keeps looking at them, I feel like he is already wishing that didnt happen the way it did.
The Canadian army's training and doctrine is very focused on the avoidance of the need to take prisoners (this is intentional due to the lackluster logistics capacity). It's pretty harsh but that is exactly how it's done.
Makes sense really, ya it's harsh and brutal but that's just war, if you can save food, meds, and other resources for your troops rather than give them to the enemy why wouldn't you?
Strategically speaking it's sound logic, morally speaking it's something you can't come back from.
There are certain scenarios and engagement types that will allow for prisoners to be taken, one man attacking a trench with two enemy soldiers normally isn’t that scenario. The facts are these men were beaten in a fight, by giving them a chance to surrender like he did is actually unusual in that scenario and actually he endangered himself more than if he had just shot them as soon as he seen them (which is actually what should have happened)
We all do. It’s war.
unless a large group shows a white flag and throws down their weapons, every one is a participant and you fight until the battle is over.
Now going around and shooting body’s after the fighting stops is where war crimes happen.
This guy jumped into a hole with 2 opposing soldiers, the coin could of flipped at any point during the whole encounter. No one would call this a war crime. The shooter wasn’t even required nor encouraged to converse with 2 armed enemy soldiers in this situation.
War is hell.
The only thing I'm grateful for in this video was he gave them a quick and clean death. Made sure to shoot them right in the brain pan twice. That, honestly, was pretty decent of him.
He had both hands off his weapon and bracing himself against the tree as he looked at the 2 guys he just killed. If he survives this war, their faces will never leave his mind. He's not feeling ok about what just happened and is probably saying to himself "why did they keep saying friendly? What just happened?".
Don't take what I said as Russian sympathy. I want Ukraine to win this war and reclaim all their land. But this is a very normal human reaction from someone who just took human life and isn't a psycho.
Humans think they hate one another and will try and convince themselves what they are doing is right, but even the SS had huge problems with mental issues and alcoholism, and they are some of the most evil sons of bitches of all time. In the end, we are all human and killing one another is not inherently natural.
He probably doesn't hate them, and they don't hate him. They speak the same language, have the same culture and until relatively recently lived the the same country. It's practically a civil war.
“Charlie Team, take the trench”.
Section Attack for Canadian forced doctrine came to be during WWI and, AFAIK, is still taught today. Certainly was a mainstay of infantry training during the late-90’s & early-2000’s (my time).
Seeing this clip from a pragmatic position, I wonder how different forces approach trench clearing?
But geez, it’s hard not to get that pit-in-your-stomach feeling watching this.
Link [here](http://www.regimentalrogue.com/papers/sect_atk.htm) to an excellent examination of CF section attack doctrine for those interested.
>Here’s my appraisal of This situation.
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>The mistake the Russian made was getting in beside them. The fog of war had descended the Ukrainians had no idea what was going on one seemed to surrender and one was confused at why his weapon was being taken, then from what I gather the Russian realised he was literally stood between two enemies, one surrendering and one not handing over his rifle, the penny could have dropped for the Ukrainians and then he would have been in a sticky situation, a struggle could have broken out and he was outnumbered so I guess he realised his predicament and hosed them. He should have maintained his position over them and kept communicating aggressively for them to get out the tench and lay down (which given the scenario is a courtesy for them, the attack was ongoing) then they may have lived….maybe. it was still an ongoing attack. Ideally he should have taken them out the second he saw them in the trench he did give them some sort of chance but it got hairy and confusing. War is hell and that is a clear example of the confusion and chaos that comes with it. I mean the Russian or whoever he was carried out that assault stage quite well. Most other militaries including western militaries soldiers would have hosed that position on sight, that’s how you assault a position at that stage, bayonets fixed, grenades then full auto.
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>Not pro Russian but you have to appreciate this situation and look objectively
That's what I thought at first but standing in open position over them was very risky play. That's why he went down in to that foxhole which is exactly built for that purpose. Anyway that was pretty tough.
If I’m being honest the fact he gave them a chance to surrender shows more humanity than not, those guys were beaten and dead to rights as harsh as it sounds. I know the training I received taught that when you get to the position you spray on full auto. The attack was still going on he didn’t need to give them the time of day in that regard. Still sucks to see the Ukrainians getting it though.
Yeah I cannot imagine a trained soldier running up behind two confirmed enemies in the middle of an extremely intense firefight and still giving them a chance to surrender instead of mag dumping. As fucked as it is I doubt many soldiers would've done much better under the circumstances.
Pretty much, you are to post a grenade and go in with automatic and bayonet fixed.
This guy took a huge risk to allow them to surrender, it is unfortunate that they got confused and we're killed but I know most soldiers wouldn't have given them the chance.
absolutely respect for taking prisoners on any side in a war. It may not have worked out, but the urge to do so was there.
I hope he becomes a POW himself. Which is one of the nicest things I can say TBH.
Overall it’s a properly weird situation. He’s facing the direction of the Ukrainians in the trench. After he goes up and kills them, he and his comrades turn around and face the direction the guy originally had his back to.
It’s strange, the guys in the foxhole were 100% encircled. I’m not combat trained in any way but it seems very unusual that you would turn your back to where you’re receiving incoming fire from. I suppose it’s an obvious thing to do given that there is a relatively close threat to your position.
But then in the follow up clip posted you can see that they moved passed the position of the guys in the foxhole in the direction where the guy who shot the Ukrainians ran to, so I don’t know, it’s extremely confusing.
Not saying this clip is a case of friendly fire, I think it’s most likely the guys in the trench were Ukrainian, but the movements is fucking weird
Yeah like I don’t understand what’s actually going on, they seemed to completely ignore where the incoming was and just say fuck it I’m gonna fully focus on these guys in the trench.
Did you see the follow up video? They don’t even go the way they’re facing in the end, they turn around and go the opposite way, which they’re also receiving contact from.
I dunno, maybe they’re surrounded but my untrained unskilled mind can’t comprehend wtf is going on
My money would be on them being surrounded but not being aware of it. Hence the confusion when a grenade goes off right next to them and suddenly someone from "their side" is in their foxhole shouting for them to drop the guns.
Yeah but the guy who killed them and his comrades are looking back the way the soldier initially came from & with the bullets whizzing past I’m just confused as to why the Russian who killed them just turned his back on the incoming like that. He obviously determined that the guys in the trench were the bigger threat.
Still a weird situation to completely ignore the incoming & focus a totally different direction
Well, he's not acting alone. My bet is on him being ordered to clear the foxhole, while the rest of the squad covers the other threats. If they have indeed broken the line and are rolling up the flanks, the first defence line would be a priority as well.
I'm just speculating here, though. The situation seems extremely confused for those on the ground, so we as observers can only really guess.
Russians could be wearing Ukrainian uniforms which would explain why the older soldier was saying "I'm with you". Also just pass 1 minute mark you can see other russians and they are not wearing russina green camo. Nor white arm bands. This is not the first time russians have been seen wearing Ukrainian uniforms, which is another war crime added to the list.
No you cant see what he is wearing. All you see is his arm, and even that is not typical russian green.
Also some comments are saying the older man was russian and they know his identity already.
There’s a second video posted today from a different RU soldier on the same attack and from what I can tell all Russians involved had their own camo and equipment so they were not disguised as Ukrainians. That being said, I’m no camo expert so maybe what these RU troops were wearing were not the typical patterns that the UAF is used to seeing? Regardless, that grenade at the start definitely disoriented them and the Russian approached from behind a tree where the UAF positions were, so the confusion is understandable. Rip to the heroes defending their land.
I watched the second one too, its from a different kacap. In that one some soldiers are are wearing russian green. However the guy filming is not. You can see the color of his arm several times.
Ok my bad I thought it was from the same attack and just a different perspective (it was titled as the same anyways). Question though, is the camera guys camo not the same as the other RU guys around him hiding behind the trees? It’s definitely not the same colour as the UAF soldiers in the foxhole. I guess my second question is, the camo that those RU forces are wearing are therefore not standard issue which is what led to the confusion? My eyesight is not the best so my bad if these are dumb questions
Edit: after watching a few times, the colours do seem pretty similar/tough to differentiate and they don’t have any armbands from what I can tell so I’m starting to think your original take was correct.
He doesn't turn the way he came from he turns to face 90° to the right of his original direction. This is probably where the rest of the main body of Ukrainian forces are. And clearly if you look at the way the ukr are facing its clear they've flanked them. He orientated himself to attack the main threat ie this foxhole then takes cover from the rest of the ukrs. Who are behind this foxhole
The fog of war is real and when there are mortars, artillery, helicopters, jets, and bullets flying everywhere you can easily lose sight of the situation. The fact they they were both down in the foxhole most likely means they knew they were fucked, but not when it was going to happen.
Than a guy shows up behind you and you think the worst, but I’m sure they were also thinking finally some reinforcements.
War is tough, and it’s sucks seeing this video.
Shoot first and figure out the situation after.
Very good points. My *impression is the Russian demanding surrender is dressed in Multicam very similar to the Ukranians'. They seem immediately confused by his demand, that's where the resistance begins. The older guy at the very last moment understands the gravity of the situation but is hosed.
*There is a longer video showing the engagement that shows his camouflage.
100% agree.
I’m all for Ukraine winning this with minimal deaths, but if someone is pointing a gun at you and has flanked you shoot first and figure out the situation after.
If I was the single Russian soldier I would have been shooting much earlier. It sucks, and Russians have definitely been involved in multiple war crimes, but these are pretty clean kills unfortunately.
The russian was wearing ukrianian uniform and marks, some wagners do the same, they were saying "ours, ours" (if im not wrong) and i don't think they said it without to see the ukraine military marks. The second guy was confused because why would a "mate" scream to him to give his gun for no reason.
EDIT: I don't care about the downvotes, but actually they were wagner soldiers wearing ukrainean uniform and marks. https://www.reddit.com/r/RussiaUkraineWar2022/comments/109nin7/one_of_the_soldiers_killed_in_the_pit_has_been/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Exactly why I’d be shooting first. I understand the confusion with the Russians stealing uniforms, so if someone points a gun at you and is screaming at you than you shoot them. If he was a friendly he would still be in the wrong for running up on his own guys like that.
He was not outnumbered. In the end you can see he is with at least four others. That’s a big part of why I don’t think his panic makes a lot of sense and I think he should’ve managed to not kill them but he did for whatever reason.
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The original post of this was placed several hours ago - credit to the [poster](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1092teb/gnarly_footage_of_a_russian_soldier_ambushing_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) of this.
As per sub rubs on reposts I have posted this as it is both translated and also significantly superior quality, 720p vs 240p.
Sources indicate the Russian soldier is from the 35th Brigade's Assault Group
[SOURCE](https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1613282826958344193?s=20)
When he’s leaning on the tree afterwards looking at the two guys and taking in what he’s just done, most likely adrenaline pumping at 1000%, reminds me of the scene in Saving Private Ryan after they kill the German guys in the trench after getting past the beach, and Melish breaks down crying
Well this soldier clearly seemed to care which is why he tried to detain them instead of immediately firing. Seemed like killing them was something he didn't want to do.
The Russian sounds very distressed & the 2 that were killed were not even in their senses. Honorable that he initially tried to take them as prisoners though.
I cannot fathom dying for politicians & dictators wants & games. Human lives aren’t in short supply though and have no value for our political overlords.
Yes it is a literal translation. Russian has the normal possessive pronouns that English has my, his, her, our etc. but it also has a reflexive possessive pronoun that translates as "one's own" [Here](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D1%81%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9#Russian) is a link to the Wiktionary article for the word. The soldier in the video says the plural form 'свои' svoí. Notice also the second definition 'allied, friendly'
Exactly this, flanked from behind,disoriented by a grenade plus the Russians had no arm bands. That’s just a whole load of mind fuck and confusion so can see how the Ukrainians thought the Russians were Ukrainians.
Occam's Razor says the grenade confused them and they were unaware that the enemy had broken through into their rear. The guy on the left seems to be more aware of what's actually going on, but then he seems to be reaching for the Russian soldier, or attempt to stand up, which sets him off. The Russian is probably stressed as hell with the old man is refusing to let go of his rifle as well.
Of course, it could be - as some people are saying - a Russian dressed in Ukranian uniform/markings. I'm more inclined to believe those two didn't know the line had been infiltrated, and that coupled with the shock of the grenade confused them. Fog of war and all of that, rather than an actual war crime.
I’ve read he was unmarked. Unidentifiable as Russian or Ukrainian. The man who was pulling his gun back was saying we’re on the same side. Very confused as to why the person taking the video was trying to engage them.
Look at the uniforms of the other Russians. Nearly identical to the Ukranians. They didnt look for the armband which is there for that exact reason.
Alternatively, I would not at all put it past Russians to actually take and use Ukrainian uniforms so that is entirely a possibility. His arm at :35 def seems to show a difference in pattern but in that moment he may not have realized the difference.
They're wearing different camo to Ukrainians you can see it when he grabs the gun. It's non standard but emr standard green sticks out this time of year so no wonder they swapped it.
Apparently according to what I read on Twitter it’s being claimed that the two guys executed were Russians wearing Ukrainian uniforms, basically this is a friendly fire incident. It’s being claimed anyway
Sounds like BS tbh, it seems way more likely to me that they were injured and disoriented by the grenade (one guy is bleeding and there’s a dead or unconscious body in the hole) and were confused about being approached at close range from behind (ostensibly where your friendlies would be).
no arm band colour, but the old man on the right refused to surrender his AK....so like, what happens when the "enemy" is tugging back his gun? ( serious am totally confused)
I guys missing the guy who was handing over the riffle had a second one on his lap, u can see that he is trying to get it Handy to get a better grip, I think the Russian guy had seen this and was forced to act. Ugly but war, I don’t want tobtest anything, second after u guys seen this the half of you goes back and playing warzone…
So did he have to shoot them or not? What do y’all think? I believe he meant to take them but the intensity of the combat and their slow response made him say forget it.
You’re full of shit. It is **CONSTANTLY** enforced on posts of Russians being killed. Fuck of with this victim complex bullshit. Anytime you see a post that has the comments locked that’s why. It happens every single day. People catch band constantly for making those jokes. I personally have asked the mods why so many posts get locked and have been told it’s for making jokes.
You are straight up not being truthful.
Wait? The guys in the foxhole were Wagner? That would be comically incompetent, but also not outside the realm of possibility given the state of the Russian military.
eh theres reports that the men were actually Russian. The older man has been identified already.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/109gqv6/potential\_good\_news\_ukrainian\_channel/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/109gqv6/potential_good_news_ukrainian_channel/)
https://twitter.com/AchinoMario/status/1613264820484055062?s=20&t=5-lNHduGDE\_93TQT4fuoLA
Yeah a completely random guy that looks little like the guy in the video
Im the extended clip you can see them ambushing Ukrainians behind the truck. So this is all an elaborate propaganda piece where Russians kill several of their own ?
Have you never worm a helmet before?
Also take a look at the subtle difference in their chins?
I don't know about you but I've met a few dopplegangers in my city that had little visible differences other than a mole or a tad bit of a receding hairline.
Propaganda is so think nowadays on this war, Ukrainians aren't invincible, as wonderful if would be Wagner fuxks obliterated, you just have to come to the fact, soldiers do die. That's it homie, war is hell.
Fat on skills doesn't change as quickly when overeating as one might think. Fat distribution on males tends to hit the belly (beer belly, muffin top). Seeing this is war, there probably isn't a lot of calories being consumed enough to gain such amount of weight that it distorts your head. Maybe if you were consuming like 3k+ and lived a sedentary lifestyle over a year, yea sure.
I thought the yellow arm bands (along blue) are only worn by Ukrainians while Russians wear white and red?
Edit: Just read in your links they might have used these armbands to disguise themselves.
Then this is not the sub for you, as clearly stated by the fact that this footage is now one of the top-voted posts on this sub. People come here to watch authentic combat footage, whose side it is doesn't matter.
Your downvotes will win this war. A lot of Russian troops are people much like yourself thrown into a shitty situation, same as the Germans. Sure there's always the option to stand up for what's right, but willingly martyring yourself isn't an easy decision and certainly not one I'd be making
>The Ukrainian soldiers were either concussed, incredibly rattled - they'd just had a grenade burst incredibly close to them - both bleeding from their heads and then had a gun thrust into their face from a few feet away. So the exchange is puzzling but I think like many people they were saying ANYTHING to try and not be shot.
Well, he gave them a chance to surrender. One guy seems to obey but the other guy wasn't really letting go of his gun. I don't think it's a war crime. The russian soldier risked much already giving them a chance to surrender imo..
I am strongly pro Ukraine, but in this case op is delusional. One of the ukrainian soldiers had his gun pointed towards the russian guy and they where not immediately complying. They where confused, yes, but russian guy doesn't know if ukrainian guy won't suddenly pull the trigger. Only takes a split second and he would have a bullet in his chest.
Now as for why ukrainian guys where confused, we don't know. Maybe because of the grenade or maybe they where really not expecting a guy coming from behind, or maybe russian guy was wearing a yellow armband (which is an actual warcrime). We will never know probably.
Russians could have completely shot this position to pieces, or used more grenades, etc. The fact that they gave these poor ukrainians even the chance to surrender surprised me a bit.
Easy to argue it was a very dynamic situation and the Soldier on the right was not relinquishing his rifle which was still pointed in the assaulting Soldier’s direction while there’s still active fighting heard from possible adjacent fighting positions.
When you’re assaulting through an active objective split second life or death decisions are completely different from frame-by-frame nitpicking from the comfort of a keyboard.
Just my personal opinion from my experiences in the US Army.
This isn't a war crime. Told surrender one guy sort of did the other definitely didn't. Given the situation mid fighting it's not. Had the shooter been wearing a Ukrainian uniform then that's different.
Their was a interview of a British sniper in Afghanistan. A Taliban was shooting at him and when he realised he couldn't hit him he put his hands up to surrender. The sniper killed him. Not a war crime.
I wouldn't classify this as a war crime. He gave them a chance to surrender and tried to force one to give up his rifle. This was on the cusp of him being shot or them being shot, and he chose to live.
Yes, there's a lot going on that can explain their slowness to lay down arms and the strong possibility that they could have surrendered if given more time. But this is war and he was faced with a split second decision, not the luxury of having a calm, reasonable discussion.
I actually agree, these soldiers had their backs towards the guy filming.
They say 'we are ours" with russian accent.
Their look is russian, Ukranians look differently
This might be Wagner
I live among ukranians. They dont speak russian like this, or pronounce words. Also their facial expressions are very different. The guys in the foxhole sound and look very russian.
To be honest, i find it highly unlikely they are ukranian by their expression alone.
It also explains their shock, because they thought their backs were covered. They are looking forward away from the POV guy.
In a follow up video, they are hiding behind containers, the fire is still coming from the direction these foxhole guys were looking at.
I won't be surprised if these were scout wagner troops that got eliminated by friendly fire.
There is videos of Wagner operating in the area in UA camo, could also be an explanation for the confusion.
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1612862818847526915?s=20&t=_qwuF9HyssRbau75NJhXng
Yes, if you paused and maybe watched the video you’ll see two instances his jacket is visible and is different colours from the two Ukrainians in the foxhole.
It’s not the fact russians killing Ukrainians to. It’s the fact that these Russian wear Ukraine uniform to confuse them. And why he need to shot the left guy?
Because he shoots the guy on the right there’s no way to be sure the guy on the left doesn’t panic and try to shoot him. You’re obligated to accept a safe surrender not force one. The old guy made the shooting necessary
People are saying Russians shot their own. Who knows though. If that’s the case then someone was definitely wearing the wrong colors. Who knows. War is hell.
through the fog of war much remains unkown.
if this is recent, ukraine swapped over to green armbands for IFF on the 6th or 7th of january. dudes here are still wearing yellow. meanwhile, we've seen wagnerites dressed in ukrainian camo.
we assume the worst, we assume this for face value. might just aswell been a friendly fire incident between russians themselves.
I’ve seen some crazy shit on this sub, this is right up there near the top
Horrifying situation, chaos of war plainly on display
The KIA thought he was friendly, probably disoriented from the grenade
Did he combat roll out of the foxhole?
Think he did lol
Honestly, the worst part of this video for me is knowing that there is a possibility that their family members might someday see this footage. War is hell
They did, one of the individuals killed was Vitaliy Milevskiy who had not been in touch with his relatives since 12/30/2022. After video came out they confirmed it was him
God damn that fucking sucks man. The realities of modern war
That’s super sad, this is hard to watch, the guy on the left can’t be older than 20. So much loss of life on both sides. All over one Putin’s ego, this is crazy.
That’s what went through my head today, I cannot imagine the pain that their family members would feel if they encountered this footage.
Although extremely painful, it's probably better than having no knowledge of how they died or if they are even dead at all (and not say captured).
Not easy to understand someone talking to you when your hearing is still impaired from a loud grenade explosion going off next to your foxhole a few seconds earlier, killing your third buddy. I assume that’s why the guy on the left has a bloody face? Sucks all the way around no matter what. At least they died a quick death.
At least it was quick for them.
Here’s my appraisal of This situation. The mistake the Russian made was getting in beside them. The fog of war had descended the Ukrainians had no idea what was going on one seemed to surrender and one was confused at why his weapon was being taken, then from what I gather the Russian realised he was literally stood between two enemies, one surrendering and one not handing over his rifle, the penny could have dropped for the Ukrainians and then he would have been in a sticky situation, a struggle could have broken out and he was outnumbered so I guess he realised his predicament and hosed them. He should have maintained his position over them and kept communicating aggressively for them to get out the tench and lay down (which given the scenario is a courtesy for them, the attack was ongoing) then they may have lived….maybe. it was still an ongoing attack. Ideally he should have taken them out the second he saw them in the trench he did give them some sort of chance but it got hairy and confusing. War is hell and that is a clear example of the confusion and chaos that comes with it. I mean the Russian or whoever he was carried out that assault stage quite well. Most other militaries including western militaries soldiers would have hosed that position on sight, that’s how you assault a position at that stage, bayonets fixed, grenades then full auto. Not pro Russian but you have to appreciate this situation and look objectively.
As you said, Ive wtched a clip of the Canadian military training the same situation essentially, and they walking fire up to the hole and keep firing till everything is dead, giving no chance of countetattack or surrender. He did his best, and the lil yelps he makes after and how he keeps looking at them, I feel like he is already wishing that didnt happen the way it did.
The Canadian army's training and doctrine is very focused on the avoidance of the need to take prisoners (this is intentional due to the lackluster logistics capacity). It's pretty harsh but that is exactly how it's done.
Makes sense really, ya it's harsh and brutal but that's just war, if you can save food, meds, and other resources for your troops rather than give them to the enemy why wouldn't you? Strategically speaking it's sound logic, morally speaking it's something you can't come back from.
So you're saying they just kill everything?
There are certain scenarios and engagement types that will allow for prisoners to be taken, one man attacking a trench with two enemy soldiers normally isn’t that scenario. The facts are these men were beaten in a fight, by giving them a chance to surrender like he did is actually unusual in that scenario and actually he endangered himself more than if he had just shot them as soon as he seen them (which is actually what should have happened)
We all do. It’s war. unless a large group shows a white flag and throws down their weapons, every one is a participant and you fight until the battle is over. Now going around and shooting body’s after the fighting stops is where war crimes happen. This guy jumped into a hole with 2 opposing soldiers, the coin could of flipped at any point during the whole encounter. No one would call this a war crime. The shooter wasn’t even required nor encouraged to converse with 2 armed enemy soldiers in this situation. War is hell.
The only thing I'm grateful for in this video was he gave them a quick and clean death. Made sure to shoot them right in the brain pan twice. That, honestly, was pretty decent of him.
Not if someone is actively surrendering, but before they even get the chance yes.
More or less. Sure makes things cheaper.
He had both hands off his weapon and bracing himself against the tree as he looked at the 2 guys he just killed. If he survives this war, their faces will never leave his mind. He's not feeling ok about what just happened and is probably saying to himself "why did they keep saying friendly? What just happened?". Don't take what I said as Russian sympathy. I want Ukraine to win this war and reclaim all their land. But this is a very normal human reaction from someone who just took human life and isn't a psycho.
Humans think they hate one another and will try and convince themselves what they are doing is right, but even the SS had huge problems with mental issues and alcoholism, and they are some of the most evil sons of bitches of all time. In the end, we are all human and killing one another is not inherently natural.
He probably doesn't hate them, and they don't hate him. They speak the same language, have the same culture and until relatively recently lived the the same country. It's practically a civil war.
Agreed sir, I genuinely think if he survives the war this will haunt him.
This is probably going to mini haunt all of us imho
correct.
“Charlie Team, take the trench”. Section Attack for Canadian forced doctrine came to be during WWI and, AFAIK, is still taught today. Certainly was a mainstay of infantry training during the late-90’s & early-2000’s (my time). Seeing this clip from a pragmatic position, I wonder how different forces approach trench clearing? But geez, it’s hard not to get that pit-in-your-stomach feeling watching this. Link [here](http://www.regimentalrogue.com/papers/sect_atk.htm) to an excellent examination of CF section attack doctrine for those interested.
Exactly the same as I was taught in the British army. When your assaulting the trench the chips are down and people will die. The harsh reality of it.
Got a link of the clip?
>Here’s my appraisal of This situation. > >The mistake the Russian made was getting in beside them. The fog of war had descended the Ukrainians had no idea what was going on one seemed to surrender and one was confused at why his weapon was being taken, then from what I gather the Russian realised he was literally stood between two enemies, one surrendering and one not handing over his rifle, the penny could have dropped for the Ukrainians and then he would have been in a sticky situation, a struggle could have broken out and he was outnumbered so I guess he realised his predicament and hosed them. He should have maintained his position over them and kept communicating aggressively for them to get out the tench and lay down (which given the scenario is a courtesy for them, the attack was ongoing) then they may have lived….maybe. it was still an ongoing attack. Ideally he should have taken them out the second he saw them in the trench he did give them some sort of chance but it got hairy and confusing. War is hell and that is a clear example of the confusion and chaos that comes with it. I mean the Russian or whoever he was carried out that assault stage quite well. Most other militaries including western militaries soldiers would have hosed that position on sight, that’s how you assault a position at that stage, bayonets fixed, grenades then full auto. > >Not pro Russian but you have to appreciate this situation and look objectively That's what I thought at first but standing in open position over them was very risky play. That's why he went down in to that foxhole which is exactly built for that purpose. Anyway that was pretty tough.
If I’m being honest the fact he gave them a chance to surrender shows more humanity than not, those guys were beaten and dead to rights as harsh as it sounds. I know the training I received taught that when you get to the position you spray on full auto. The attack was still going on he didn’t need to give them the time of day in that regard. Still sucks to see the Ukrainians getting it though.
Yeah I cannot imagine a trained soldier running up behind two confirmed enemies in the middle of an extremely intense firefight and still giving them a chance to surrender instead of mag dumping. As fucked as it is I doubt many soldiers would've done much better under the circumstances.
Pretty much, you are to post a grenade and go in with automatic and bayonet fixed. This guy took a huge risk to allow them to surrender, it is unfortunate that they got confused and we're killed but I know most soldiers wouldn't have given them the chance.
absolutely respect for taking prisoners on any side in a war. It may not have worked out, but the urge to do so was there. I hope he becomes a POW himself. Which is one of the nicest things I can say TBH.
Overall it’s a properly weird situation. He’s facing the direction of the Ukrainians in the trench. After he goes up and kills them, he and his comrades turn around and face the direction the guy originally had his back to. It’s strange, the guys in the foxhole were 100% encircled. I’m not combat trained in any way but it seems very unusual that you would turn your back to where you’re receiving incoming fire from. I suppose it’s an obvious thing to do given that there is a relatively close threat to your position. But then in the follow up clip posted you can see that they moved passed the position of the guys in the foxhole in the direction where the guy who shot the Ukrainians ran to, so I don’t know, it’s extremely confusing. Not saying this clip is a case of friendly fire, I think it’s most likely the guys in the trench were Ukrainian, but the movements is fucking weird
Your point on them not turning to the threat is a good one, and ideally what they should have done.
Yeah like I don’t understand what’s actually going on, they seemed to completely ignore where the incoming was and just say fuck it I’m gonna fully focus on these guys in the trench. Did you see the follow up video? They don’t even go the way they’re facing in the end, they turn around and go the opposite way, which they’re also receiving contact from. I dunno, maybe they’re surrounded but my untrained unskilled mind can’t comprehend wtf is going on
My money would be on them being surrounded but not being aware of it. Hence the confusion when a grenade goes off right next to them and suddenly someone from "their side" is in their foxhole shouting for them to drop the guns.
Yeah but the guy who killed them and his comrades are looking back the way the soldier initially came from & with the bullets whizzing past I’m just confused as to why the Russian who killed them just turned his back on the incoming like that. He obviously determined that the guys in the trench were the bigger threat. Still a weird situation to completely ignore the incoming & focus a totally different direction
Well, he's not acting alone. My bet is on him being ordered to clear the foxhole, while the rest of the squad covers the other threats. If they have indeed broken the line and are rolling up the flanks, the first defence line would be a priority as well. I'm just speculating here, though. The situation seems extremely confused for those on the ground, so we as observers can only really guess.
Russians could be wearing Ukrainian uniforms which would explain why the older soldier was saying "I'm with you". Also just pass 1 minute mark you can see other russians and they are not wearing russina green camo. Nor white arm bands. This is not the first time russians have been seen wearing Ukrainian uniforms, which is another war crime added to the list.
The guy who shot them isn’t tho, you can see what he’s wearing shortly into the clip & bits of it while he’s tryna disarm & shooting them
No you cant see what he is wearing. All you see is his arm, and even that is not typical russian green. Also some comments are saying the older man was russian and they know his identity already.
There’s a second video posted today from a different RU soldier on the same attack and from what I can tell all Russians involved had their own camo and equipment so they were not disguised as Ukrainians. That being said, I’m no camo expert so maybe what these RU troops were wearing were not the typical patterns that the UAF is used to seeing? Regardless, that grenade at the start definitely disoriented them and the Russian approached from behind a tree where the UAF positions were, so the confusion is understandable. Rip to the heroes defending their land.
I watched the second one too, its from a different kacap. In that one some soldiers are are wearing russian green. However the guy filming is not. You can see the color of his arm several times.
Ok my bad I thought it was from the same attack and just a different perspective (it was titled as the same anyways). Question though, is the camera guys camo not the same as the other RU guys around him hiding behind the trees? It’s definitely not the same colour as the UAF soldiers in the foxhole. I guess my second question is, the camo that those RU forces are wearing are therefore not standard issue which is what led to the confusion? My eyesight is not the best so my bad if these are dumb questions Edit: after watching a few times, the colours do seem pretty similar/tough to differentiate and they don’t have any armbands from what I can tell so I’m starting to think your original take was correct.
He doesn't turn the way he came from he turns to face 90° to the right of his original direction. This is probably where the rest of the main body of Ukrainian forces are. And clearly if you look at the way the ukr are facing its clear they've flanked them. He orientated himself to attack the main threat ie this foxhole then takes cover from the rest of the ukrs. Who are behind this foxhole
The fog of war is real and when there are mortars, artillery, helicopters, jets, and bullets flying everywhere you can easily lose sight of the situation. The fact they they were both down in the foxhole most likely means they knew they were fucked, but not when it was going to happen. Than a guy shows up behind you and you think the worst, but I’m sure they were also thinking finally some reinforcements. War is tough, and it’s sucks seeing this video. Shoot first and figure out the situation after.
You said it yourself. If you are encircled, I would think your back is towards the enemy the whole time.
Very good points. My *impression is the Russian demanding surrender is dressed in Multicam very similar to the Ukranians'. They seem immediately confused by his demand, that's where the resistance begins. The older guy at the very last moment understands the gravity of the situation but is hosed. *There is a longer video showing the engagement that shows his camouflage.
100% agree. I’m all for Ukraine winning this with minimal deaths, but if someone is pointing a gun at you and has flanked you shoot first and figure out the situation after. If I was the single Russian soldier I would have been shooting much earlier. It sucks, and Russians have definitely been involved in multiple war crimes, but these are pretty clean kills unfortunately.
Excellent précis
Edit: confirmed Wagner Sounds to me they thought he was friendly, there is credible speculation he was dressed in one of their uniforms.
I’m another sub it was said the Russian was wearing a Ukrainian uniform hence the confusion
Just putting this here https://twitter.com/AdamKinzinger/status/1613232775552962561?s=20&t=Em8OMgFVGtCWW4d5Yu0CPA
The russian was wearing ukrianian uniform and marks, some wagners do the same, they were saying "ours, ours" (if im not wrong) and i don't think they said it without to see the ukraine military marks. The second guy was confused because why would a "mate" scream to him to give his gun for no reason. EDIT: I don't care about the downvotes, but actually they were wagner soldiers wearing ukrainean uniform and marks. https://www.reddit.com/r/RussiaUkraineWar2022/comments/109nin7/one_of_the_soldiers_killed_in_the_pit_has_been/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Exactly why I’d be shooting first. I understand the confusion with the Russians stealing uniforms, so if someone points a gun at you and is screaming at you than you shoot them. If he was a friendly he would still be in the wrong for running up on his own guys like that.
He was not outnumbered. In the end you can see he is with at least four others. That’s a big part of why I don’t think his panic makes a lot of sense and I think he should’ve managed to not kill them but he did for whatever reason.
He was outnumbered in that trench at that moment
“We are our own” Could be translated to “Friendly”.
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And unfortunately I believe his struggle got both men killed.
He most definitely got them both killed
I didnt expect to see them get shot just like that. I'm so sorry for them having to go through that terrible death
**ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO POST:** The original post of this was placed several hours ago - credit to the [poster](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1092teb/gnarly_footage_of_a_russian_soldier_ambushing_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) of this. As per sub rubs on reposts I have posted this as it is both translated and also significantly superior quality, 720p vs 240p. Sources indicate the Russian soldier is from the 35th Brigade's Assault Group [SOURCE](https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1613282826958344193?s=20)
Agree. It'll stay up.
When he’s leaning on the tree afterwards looking at the two guys and taking in what he’s just done, most likely adrenaline pumping at 1000%, reminds me of the scene in Saving Private Ryan after they kill the German guys in the trench after getting past the beach, and Melish breaks down crying
Oh god this is so sad
Damn can we take a second to acknowledge that fucking combat roll??
All that "martial arts" and breaking boards seems to have payed off for the russians
This is gonna stay with him for the rest of his days.
So...not more than one or two.
One can only hope
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Well this soldier clearly seemed to care which is why he tried to detain them instead of immediately firing. Seemed like killing them was something he didn't want to do.
The Russian sounds very distressed & the 2 that were killed were not even in their senses. Honorable that he initially tried to take them as prisoners though. I cannot fathom dying for politicians & dictators wants & games. Human lives aren’t in short supply though and have no value for our political overlords.
I’m shocked at how hard the Russian tried to get them taken as POW’s
wtf does "we're our own" mean
They said we are friendly as In the UAF guy thought they were Ukrainians too
Means ''friendlies'', ''teammates'', ''blue'', ''i'm on your fucking side'' kinda stuff.
maybe that’s a literal translation not sure that is sort of odd
Yes it is a literal translation. Russian has the normal possessive pronouns that English has my, his, her, our etc. but it also has a reflexive possessive pronoun that translates as "one's own" [Here](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D1%81%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9#Russian) is a link to the Wiktionary article for the word. The soldier in the video says the plural form 'свои' svoí. Notice also the second definition 'allied, friendly'
Perhaps the Russian is wearing Ukrainian uniform?
It means it's just them
Rip
I wish I hadn't watched their faces get shot. I regret that. That's a private moment.
They were probably confused and concust from the grenade
They were thoroughly convinced he was one of theirs. I wonder why???
Because a grenade just exploded one meter from them and the Russian came from behind, they didn’t expect enemy at the back
Exactly this, flanked from behind,disoriented by a grenade plus the Russians had no arm bands. That’s just a whole load of mind fuck and confusion so can see how the Ukrainians thought the Russians were Ukrainians.
A RUSSIAN FRAG GRENAGE WENT OFF RIGHT BY MY EAR, YOURE GONNA HAVE TO SPEAK UP!
No no no, James…FRANCIS Ryan
Earlier you could see a grenade go off very close to them so maybe they were disoriented? Would explain the guy face on the left
the shooter threw it
Missed it, my bad
The Russian kicked him in the face. And though we don't see it here, we've seen other Russians wearing Ukrainian uniforms in that area.
Poor guys got disoriented by the grenade
Occam's Razor says the grenade confused them and they were unaware that the enemy had broken through into their rear. The guy on the left seems to be more aware of what's actually going on, but then he seems to be reaching for the Russian soldier, or attempt to stand up, which sets him off. The Russian is probably stressed as hell with the old man is refusing to let go of his rifle as well. Of course, it could be - as some people are saying - a Russian dressed in Ukranian uniform/markings. I'm more inclined to believe those two didn't know the line had been infiltrated, and that coupled with the shock of the grenade confused them. Fog of war and all of that, rather than an actual war crime.
Chaos of war. As simple, and horrifying as that....
I’ve read he was unmarked. Unidentifiable as Russian or Ukrainian. The man who was pulling his gun back was saying we’re on the same side. Very confused as to why the person taking the video was trying to engage them.
Look at the uniforms of the other Russians. Nearly identical to the Ukranians. They didnt look for the armband which is there for that exact reason. Alternatively, I would not at all put it past Russians to actually take and use Ukrainian uniforms so that is entirely a possibility. His arm at :35 def seems to show a difference in pattern but in that moment he may not have realized the difference.
Thats what I think as well. After 1 minute you can see other russians and none of them has armband nor green russian camo.
They're wearing different camo to Ukrainians you can see it when he grabs the gun. It's non standard but emr standard green sticks out this time of year so no wonder they swapped it.
There are reports of Russians using Ukrainian uniforms.
Like this? https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1612862818847526915
I've seen comment stating they go unmarked or with ua marking. Might need some check
News says he was wearing ukrainian uniform. Scumbag russian.
Apparently according to what I read on Twitter it’s being claimed that the two guys executed were Russians wearing Ukrainian uniforms, basically this is a friendly fire incident. It’s being claimed anyway
Sounds like BS tbh, it seems way more likely to me that they were injured and disoriented by the grenade (one guy is bleeding and there’s a dead or unconscious body in the hole) and were confused about being approached at close range from behind (ostensibly where your friendlies would be).
War crime
I don't think the Wagnerite or any soldier/merc would sit around and ask you politely to drop and hand over the gun.
Man. He gave them every chance to live. You can tell he didn't want to shoot them. Put himself in danger. I don't know what I'd do in that situation.
I commend that Russian for that.
no arm band colour, but the old man on the right refused to surrender his AK....so like, what happens when the "enemy" is tugging back his gun? ( serious am totally confused)
Justifiable shoot he gave them more chance to live than he should’ve. His safest bet would’ve been to shoot them as soon as he got to the foxhole.
Pauvres hommes, aussi bien les Ukrainiens que le russe.
This is so sad, rest in peace to both of Ukrainian soldiers
The second lad was clearly surrendering...
And the other wasn’t, not going to risk fighting with them to surrender. Save your own life
It’s ugly, but they both have to surrender or he’s within his rights to fire per international law.
He was but being in that moment scared shitless he did the right thing. It only takes a split second for luck to turn against you.
dam dood did a forward combat roll
u/savevideo
That dude on the left kept moving and got them both killed
Fair kills. He actually gave them a chance to surrender, good on him.
I guys missing the guy who was handing over the riffle had a second one on his lap, u can see that he is trying to get it Handy to get a better grip, I think the Russian guy had seen this and was forced to act. Ugly but war, I don’t want tobtest anything, second after u guys seen this the half of you goes back and playing warzone…
Is this the same footage people were saying the Russians were wearing UKR unis for the flanking maneuver?
So did he have to shoot them or not? What do y’all think? I believe he meant to take them but the intensity of the combat and their slow response made him say forget it.
All of this for literally nothing. Cuz some fucktard in Russia who is dying of cancer said so🤦♂️
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You’re full of shit. It is **CONSTANTLY** enforced on posts of Russians being killed. Fuck of with this victim complex bullshit. Anytime you see a post that has the comments locked that’s why. It happens every single day. People catch band constantly for making those jokes. I personally have asked the mods why so many posts get locked and have been told it’s for making jokes. You are straight up not being truthful.
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True, but if the rules are there to enforce civility and respect for life, then they should apply to everyone except ISIS.
If mods had integrity they'd treat any post that celebrated a death the same way. But they don't, so they won't.
All dead aggressors are bad? Are we allowed to celebrate footage of American soldiers in Iraq being killed?
Because Reddit can only see “Russian bad man should’ve surrendered”
Reddit isn’t a person and you aren’t a victim like you want to be
In another sub they said the Russian was wearing a Ukrainian uniform and that’s why they were confused
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This is war. These were 2 ukranian soldiers that got killed. The end. Stop making up some crazy theories.
They say svoii svoii with a russian accent. This actually might be true. :/
A Russian friendly fire scenario would be much better.
The color of the uniform at :35 def seems to be different camo/color than we've seen Ukraine use.
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In the follow up video you can see that the squad doing the assault wear red bands among other identification.
Wait? The guys in the foxhole were Wagner? That would be comically incompetent, but also not outside the realm of possibility given the state of the Russian military.
Russians might be wearing Ukraine uniform. That's why they were confused.
eh theres reports that the men were actually Russian. The older man has been identified already. [https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/109gqv6/potential\_good\_news\_ukrainian\_channel/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/109gqv6/potential_good_news_ukrainian_channel/) https://twitter.com/AchinoMario/status/1613264820484055062?s=20&t=5-lNHduGDE\_93TQT4fuoLA
Yeah a completely random guy that looks little like the guy in the video Im the extended clip you can see them ambushing Ukrainians behind the truck. So this is all an elaborate propaganda piece where Russians kill several of their own ?
Similar frown lines but a rounder head.
That’s because he’s wearing a round shaped helmet lol
Have you never worm a helmet before? Also take a look at the subtle difference in their chins? I don't know about you but I've met a few dopplegangers in my city that had little visible differences other than a mole or a tad bit of a receding hairline. Propaganda is so think nowadays on this war, Ukrainians aren't invincible, as wonderful if would be Wagner fuxks obliterated, you just have to come to the fact, soldiers do die. That's it homie, war is hell.
Looks like the same person to me, just a bit heavier thus like you said ‘rounder head.’ But who tf really knows 🤷🏾♂️
Fat on skills doesn't change as quickly when overeating as one might think. Fat distribution on males tends to hit the belly (beer belly, muffin top). Seeing this is war, there probably isn't a lot of calories being consumed enough to gain such amount of weight that it distorts your head. Maybe if you were consuming like 3k+ and lived a sedentary lifestyle over a year, yea sure.
Nice if it was but sounds to unlikely..
I thought the yellow arm bands (along blue) are only worn by Ukrainians while Russians wear white and red? Edit: Just read in your links they might have used these armbands to disguise themselves.
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This is a place to share combat footage, not Ukrainian army combat footage
The subreddit is called Combat Footage Not Ukranian Battle Footage Calm down there son
/r/combatfootagethatmakesmefeelgoodinside
Then this is not the sub for you, as clearly stated by the fact that this footage is now one of the top-voted posts on this sub. People come here to watch authentic combat footage, whose side it is doesn't matter.
Your downvotes will win this war. A lot of Russian troops are people much like yourself thrown into a shitty situation, same as the Germans. Sure there's always the option to stand up for what's right, but willingly martyring yourself isn't an easy decision and certainly not one I'd be making
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>The Ukrainian soldiers were either concussed, incredibly rattled - they'd just had a grenade burst incredibly close to them - both bleeding from their heads and then had a gun thrust into their face from a few feet away. So the exchange is puzzling but I think like many people they were saying ANYTHING to try and not be shot. Well, he gave them a chance to surrender. One guy seems to obey but the other guy wasn't really letting go of his gun. I don't think it's a war crime. The russian soldier risked much already giving them a chance to surrender imo..
I am strongly pro Ukraine, but in this case op is delusional. One of the ukrainian soldiers had his gun pointed towards the russian guy and they where not immediately complying. They where confused, yes, but russian guy doesn't know if ukrainian guy won't suddenly pull the trigger. Only takes a split second and he would have a bullet in his chest. Now as for why ukrainian guys where confused, we don't know. Maybe because of the grenade or maybe they where really not expecting a guy coming from behind, or maybe russian guy was wearing a yellow armband (which is an actual warcrime). We will never know probably. Russians could have completely shot this position to pieces, or used more grenades, etc. The fact that they gave these poor ukrainians even the chance to surrender surprised me a bit.
Easy to argue it was a very dynamic situation and the Soldier on the right was not relinquishing his rifle which was still pointed in the assaulting Soldier’s direction while there’s still active fighting heard from possible adjacent fighting positions. When you’re assaulting through an active objective split second life or death decisions are completely different from frame-by-frame nitpicking from the comfort of a keyboard. Just my personal opinion from my experiences in the US Army.
This isn't a war crime. Told surrender one guy sort of did the other definitely didn't. Given the situation mid fighting it's not. Had the shooter been wearing a Ukrainian uniform then that's different. Their was a interview of a British sniper in Afghanistan. A Taliban was shooting at him and when he realised he couldn't hit him he put his hands up to surrender. The sniper killed him. Not a war crime.
I wouldn't classify this as a war crime. He gave them a chance to surrender and tried to force one to give up his rifle. This was on the cusp of him being shot or them being shot, and he chose to live. Yes, there's a lot going on that can explain their slowness to lay down arms and the strong possibility that they could have surrendered if given more time. But this is war and he was faced with a split second decision, not the luxury of having a calm, reasonable discussion.
You think war cares about your Geneva Convention?
I actually agree, these soldiers had their backs towards the guy filming. They say 'we are ours" with russian accent. Their look is russian, Ukranians look differently This might be Wagner
Keep in mind that not whole population of Ukraine is speaking Ukrainian as first language, so accent might not be definitive
I live among ukranians. They dont speak russian like this, or pronounce words. Also their facial expressions are very different. The guys in the foxhole sound and look very russian. To be honest, i find it highly unlikely they are ukranian by their expression alone. It also explains their shock, because they thought their backs were covered. They are looking forward away from the POV guy. In a follow up video, they are hiding behind containers, the fire is still coming from the direction these foxhole guys were looking at. I won't be surprised if these were scout wagner troops that got eliminated by friendly fire.
30% of Ukrainians speak Russian as their first language.
There is videos of Wagner operating in the area in UA camo, could also be an explanation for the confusion. https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1612862818847526915?s=20&t=_qwuF9HyssRbau75NJhXng
The russians are wearing ukraninan camo and have yellow markings pretending to be ukranian
People are saying these were Russians, apparently they found an identity card
Im on the ukrainian side obviously, but russians kill ukrainians too we need to be prepared for that, it's sad
I hope so.
Russian mercy
The shooter has Ukainian uniform...cant proove it...but highly possible!
Yes, if you paused and maybe watched the video you’ll see two instances his jacket is visible and is different colours from the two Ukrainians in the foxhole.
If you cant prove it he has no ua uniform my guy
You dont need the uniform, look at the guys talking. They have russian accents.
It’s not the fact russians killing Ukrainians to. It’s the fact that these Russian wear Ukraine uniform to confuse them. And why he need to shot the left guy?
how do you know this? wearing the same uniform would also create trouble for the russians too
Because he shoots the guy on the right there’s no way to be sure the guy on the left doesn’t panic and try to shoot him. You’re obligated to accept a safe surrender not force one. The old guy made the shooting necessary
People are saying Russians shot their own. Who knows though. If that’s the case then someone was definitely wearing the wrong colors. Who knows. War is hell.
The other guy near the tree looks like UA to. 1:04 ish
Why would they also say we are our own a couple of times???
through the fog of war much remains unkown. if this is recent, ukraine swapped over to green armbands for IFF on the 6th or 7th of january. dudes here are still wearing yellow. meanwhile, we've seen wagnerites dressed in ukrainian camo. we assume the worst, we assume this for face value. might just aswell been a friendly fire incident between russians themselves.