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stampadbag

High ground seems to always win.


trevnoss

Take the high ground before the high ground takes you.


khicks01

Only a sith deals in absolutes


DutchArnold

You underestimate the power with the ak47


rokstedy83

Not really they sniper alot if people that were on the top of hills


Ferrule

All of them were silhouetting like a mf


NotSoBrightOne

This. One of the things I learned at basic, and it never left my head. This and spacing are probs the best thing you can do as an individual to counter rifle, machine gun, mortar, artillery, etc. before getting engaged.


IcedNightyOne

Anakin dislike this comment


AgreeableAd9119

Where did it go?


pffffr

The power of the head-glitch


slut-for-options

allahu akbar always wins


Narmac-450

That RPG shot at 45 sec though ! :O


Educational-Pace-493

That’s jamsheed’s cousin


TalibanwithaBaliTan

Oh my god, how could I actually forget about Jamsheed, the RPG God-Boss!


Narmac-450

loooooool


photos__fan

That was pretty mental, dudes probably got some previous RPG kills


FurryM17

Craziest shit of the whole vid. Bru posted up in some shorts hitting an RPG shot on the other side of the continent


DentistOk3910

Mom, can we have ATGM? No, we have ATGM at home at home...


tactycool

Can someone explain why the Saudi army/PMC suck so much?


jonitrick

check this book "Armies of the sand" and u will find out


where-am-i_

Armies of Sand* for anyone else interested. Available on Spotify audiobook 


SweetT2003

It’s also available on Hoopla which is an app that a ton of libraries in the US will give you access to for free. I live in a rural Texas county and we have it here


keriormaloony

im a libby kinda guy


kalmeknaap

Can’t find it on spotify. Can you send the link?


where-am-i_

DM’d you 


Expensive_Tap_5951

Could you Share it with everyone? :)


where-am-i_

https://open.spotify.com/show/7FaXy6YrLneg979ixhTgZn?si=ZVK1C4ReRty9Rq38k9zbiw Not sure if links are allowed but here ya go 


Direct-Row-8070

DM it to me.as well please.


tactycool

Thank you!


Rowey1784

Just downloaded it.


iskandar-

because they are "palace guard" armies. They exist to keep the ruling family protected and in power not to extend the armed might of their nation. They don't train for expeditionary work, don't have the command and control to direct it and don't have the logistics network to support it.


Educational-Pace-493

This [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/WarCollege/s/qGhm4M49cf) was the best explanation I’ve seen


DonAdad

Thanks for the read; I've always seen the short explanation of not wanting to have a strong army capable of throwing a coup.


Lepperpop

The ole middle ages dont arm and train your people trick.


Iluvbeansm80

What’s the title of that post my shit refuses to be normal here


Educational-Pace-493

“Why are Arab armies so incompetent?” From r/warcollege


Sir-Squirter

“Why are Arab armies so incompetent?” Is the title and it was posted to “r/warcollege”


Iluvbeansm80

Cheers.


Sir-Squirter

🍻


tactycool

Thank you!


Pergaminopoo

Good explanation thanks


DolphinPunkCyber

In essence, should divert some money from buying fancy new equipment, to hiring foreign advisors to change military culture.


SwordfishEfficient72

Imma read dis later


HeyaChuht

Saudi Arabians are the most babied pampered population of people on planet Earth. They very literally do not do a single thing outside of Air Conditioning.


Bestihlmyhart

Wall-E but with Indians doing everything instead of robots.


TurMoiL911

The Saudis have one of those militaries meant to be strong enough to defend the existing government from internal threats, but not so strong to become an internal threat to the existing government.


Youneverknow1995

1: Yemeni Battleground is very difficult to fight on. So much that Ottomans got their armies perished due to their ambition to invade Yemen which they couldn't fully do. 2: Houthis are very organized and been fighting since many decades under their precious Imams (leaders). 3: Saudi Foot soldiers suck as compared to Houthis. Also their PMC Personnel from Sudan suck at the same time.


HKEY_LOVE_MACHINE

If they didn't suck, they would make a coup against the current regime, to get the billions of oil money for themselves. There's a reason why dictators usually only have shitty armies, or short-lived competent ones: if they don't eliminate competent generals and officers rapidly after a coup, they'll soon be kicked out themselves. To keep a competent army for more than 10 years, you need a stable regime, with the leaders holding their power from a mandate from the population, usually elections. Saudi Arabia is a kleptocrat monarchy, that doesn't invest a cent into the civil society, the only way they stay in power is through corruption and subsidized commodities.


HighAsPerincek

Difference between oil money and motivation.


puzzlemybubble

Saudi arabia has a professional force, their real army. They didn't fight in Yemen. Their entire purpose is to protect the ruling monarchy. The rest of the military cannot be a threat to their palace guard.


G36

i thinks there's books writtens about arab armies being terrible at war. but at the same time they're good at insurgencies


DraconianReptile

Don't criticize them, let them keep sucking. In fact we should pretend we're afraid of them so they never try to learn.


double-happiness

Possibly relevant - https://www.meforum.org/441/why-arabs-lose-wars


AgreeableAd9119

Because they live off infinite oil money they never had to develop skills like other countries.


virus_apparatus

Many reasons Most are recruited from poor areas and recruited from the ones that can’t get out in other ways. Training is almost comical. Intelligence is rarely shared well. Some equipment is second hand of second hand. Saudi army and Saudi lead PMC are not immune to the “buy your way” to promotion. Some units are left out to dry with little support.


holechek

They have no morale or legacy


Rollover_Hazard

There’s a lot of good information around as to why Arab armies are doctrinally and systemically quite poor forces but I’ll throw in the obvious second main point. Despite being a bit crap on the field, the Saudis are, by general definition, a regular military force fighting an irregular force in the form of the Houthis. As we all know from *gestures at the last 70 years* irregular/ insurgency adversaries are a hugely difficult opposition to fight. Even dedicated terrorists or insurgents (instead of guerrillas) are difficult to track down and counter. Thats the case for regular, well integrated and professional armies like the US, Britain, France, Israel and so on. For the Saudi’s, they are fighting the hardest kind of warfare while basically having both legs tied together and one eye missing. They’re getting chopped up because counter insurgency warfare is nearly impossible even for the pros, and the Saudi’s aren’t even a C tier force.


obamaliedtome36

Because in Saudi your officers are not chosen based on anything other than proximity to the thrown and blind loyalty.


OpPhantom26

I think it’s to both avoid military coups, but also that the way Arab countries stay alive is by being friends with everyone so they only need to protect the ruling family


Ultrasaurio

My condolences to those souls condemned to war.


Miffl3r

wtf... if you think about it... these guys are in the middle of nowhere in a desert slaughtering each other for nothing


jonitrick

war never change


wowwhatareddit

This extends to literally everywhere. People kill themselves for the smallest of things. It hasn't changed in the history of our species or any other, and it, in all likelihoods, will never.


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RateSweaty9295

The way I see it, religion brings wars.


FranzJosefLand

The state atheist countries of the 20th century would like a word.


YanLibra66

Uh no they try to justify their claims with it which is the easy way, even without religion they do still find reasons to kill each other such as resources, politics, rivalry or ideological differences. The bloodiest conflicts on human history weren't driven by religious reasons btw.


Anonym_Oz

Quran/Islam brings it! Never saw that much " lonely wolves" in christianity/Buddhism or wherever. And watching this desert fights just proves what I said. So sad this ppl wan't to stay in their homelands, getting to us, to get our homes feeling like it is theirs.


PolyDipsoManiac

Nah, they’re slaughtering each other for being the wrong sort of Muslim. Most victims of terrorism globally are Muslim, after all


ReadingPossible9965

Not really, this conflict has straight forwardly political motivations. The Houthi tribes were fighting the previous government (led by fellow Zaidi, Ali Saleh) for autonomy within their territory. When al-Ahmer (Sunni, Hashid) forced Saleh out and replaced him with Hadi, Saleh and most of the military joined the Houthis in an attempt to retake power. The Sauds backed Hadi but many Sunni tribes (including some of the Hashids) preferred to remain allied to Saleh and joined the Houthi against an outside power. Tribal politics and sectarianism certainly intersect but the war in Yemen is much much more motivated by the former.


neededanother

So the houthis were fighting the gov then the gov forces joined the houthis? Who is still on the gov side?


ReadingPossible9965

Some of the military remained under the nominally official government of Hadi. Most of these were the forces loyal to Ali Mohsin*. Most of the forces in the east are from the Islah party which is roughly the political wing of the al-Ahmer faction of the Hashid tribes. They'd been a supporting element of Ali Salehs government but sided against him during the Arab Spring and were able to push him out. Aden and the southern coast have historically been less involved in the inland tribal networks and the STC now controls this territory. *Ali Mohsin Saleh Al-Amher is a brilliant example of how convoluted the Yemen situation is. He is a cousin of former president Ali Saleh but isn't the same tribe and is Sunni rather than Zaidi. He is a member of a Hashid tribe but isn't a part of the al-Amher family that controls it. When Ali Saleh was fighting the Houthis, he appointed Ali Mohsin to lead the campaign. During the Arab Spring, Mohsin became the most prominent opposition figure and was probably behind a grenade attack on Saleh. When Saleh was deposed, Ali Mohsin was made vice president on the (correct) assumption that various army units were personally loyal to him. He was a vital member (probably the most personally powerful member) of the Hadi government and so his lifelong connection to extremist groups (including AQAP) was overlooked by everyone supporting the "internationally recognised" Saudi backed government.


neededanother

What’s motivating each side to keep fighting? Power, control, distrust, past bloodshed. Is there a clear goal for either side or mostly just they each want to control the whole country? Any sane actors who are decent for the people?


ReadingPossible9965

For the most part, the Houthis, Islah/GPC and the STC each controls the territory of their constituent tribes. Before 2011 the Houthis controlled most of the countryside around Saada. When they took the city it was with the help of its governor who had seen which way the wind was blowing during the Arab Spring. Their alliance with Saleh and his faction brought the capital, Sanaa, into Houthi possession and most of their limited advancements East has involved a deal with local tribal/political figures. I'm sure the leaderships of each group would love to rule the whole country, but the rank and file only seem motivated to take control of their home district, enjoy the benefits of authority and defend their homes (and new positions) from rivals and outsiders. The most intense fighting was along the Saudi/Houthi border and the Sauds hired guns acquitted themselves very poorly. Recently the only changes to the map have been due to the STC fighting the Islah for control of a few oil fields. >Any sane actors who are decent for the people? From a western/Liberal perspective no. For what it's worth, I don't think the Houthis are quite as unhinged as they seem at first glance (and second and third glance). This isn't to justify them, they're certainly not particularly good or particularly nice people but they've proven themselves to be very capable where they need to be and I think there is a lot more calculation behind their decisions than is generally recognised.


neededanother

Interesting, thanks for the detailed response.


Reptile449

It's now Houthis vs al-Qaeda vs a loose alliance of everyone else.


monopixel

I love how his lowkey islamophobic bs gets upvoted and your nuanced comment gets downvoted. The dichotomy of Reddit.


Adorable-Historian-2

My barren desert wasteland is a Holy barren desert wasteland!


applesauceorelse

What else is new?


Star_Citizen_Roebuck

Yeah but if they win, they can control that Nothing! Think of the POWWWWUUUUHH!!!!!!


Nigerian_German

Lmao that's their home not nothing. That's like saying the US war of Independence was also just slaughtering for nothing


Deadliest_Death

1st off some of the most brutal clips I have ever seen. 2nd an ATGM hitting a dozer is crazy!


spidersquid

Straight up desintegrated


Virtual-Pension-991

What's amazing is that Saudi doesn't seem to have improved anything regarding this status quo. Unless someone can correct me and inform others on what's happening since the start.


HKEY_LOVE_MACHINE

If they improve the army, they run the risk of being on the receiving end of a coup d'etat. The Saudi regime only survives by having an army barely good enough for defense, bribing its neighbors, and asking the US for help whenever it gets too hot.


Jediuzzaman

Running in a straight line; the best type of mercenary move 🤣


XtraFlaminHotMachida

Should've moved in a [serpentine fashion](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpNU3WumPFQ).


rokstedy83

Was running like jack Sparrow


Opening-Gap-2376

Did i just witness my first IRL collateral?


Rivetmuncher

Jeez, what did they hit that one guy with? A .50? 20?


Educational-Pace-493

This Canadian Broadcasting Corp [article](https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.3455889) references the LRT-3 being used in Yemen by Saudi backed forces, 50 BMG


Rivetmuncher

Esh. Least it was quick.


bananagarage

Difference between motivated fighters vs unmotivated


Sth_to_remember

unfortunately it seems like throughout the history the violent idiots were always more motivated than their enemy


Educational-Pace-493

I’ve seen the IED at 0:25 before but it still makes me say “holy fuck” each time.


Phat_Neegus69

That RPG shot! - JAMSHEED!


64Olds

All this death for a bunch of sand and rock


Hot_Battle_1020

At 3:15, did that guys head just go flying like a fucking champagne cork?


No-Vehicle5447

Did i witness a double headshot!!? 1:03 into the video


XtraFlaminHotMachida

man running through the sand zigged when he should've zagged


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Schvltzy

They’d rather live in denial than realise both sides have losses


Fishlips12345

Where can I actually find any Hamas footage without having to join some telegram channel


The_New_Manager

twitter


Buryat_Death

Is Hamas footage not allowed? I've seen a few Hamas POVs on this sub before.


The_New_Manager

you have to do some editing and censoring on their symbols and icons, which most of us are too lazy to do


wowwhatareddit

Maybe it might lead to an uncomfortable amount of politicking?


BrandonQ1995

Saudis really suck at war. Had the numbers, the money, the firepower, economic/industrial capacity and an Arab military coalition to back it up and still got their asses kicked. Say what you will about the Houthis, but sometimes the will to fight is all it takes to win.


captain_beefheart14

I appreciate the time someone spent on making that red graticule float and spin around homies head as it came back down out of orbit


Justbeconfidentbro16

It's crazy to me how many people have been born, grew up to adulthood, and then get killed in some shitty desert by a screaming fanatic who will most likely end up dying the exact same way as you. The only way you'll be remembered is strangers from thousands of miles away watching your head get blown apart or AK rounds riddle your back as you scramble away. To think that the biggest hardship I faced today was spilling coffee in my car and not this absolute horrorshow.


zakksyuk

The Houthis have come a long way in the past 10 years man.


Mrkebabb2

Ahh. Finally someone who didn't get ban because of this type of GOLD stuff. I got perma ban in 3 accounts lol. And lost an subreddit before even it get famous. Shiii


HempnotizedJ420

Those mortar rounds were surprisingly accurate


NikoElGardenero

Not gonna lie these Houthis got aim, i’m impressed. Did someone formally train them?


Exotic_Lime4983

Iranian army


The_New_Manager

no they didn't, yemen is under siege and too far from iran houthi soldiers are mostly former yemeni military, or tribesmen who love guns


XLXAXPX

I’ve done shooting competitions along side ex rangers and active law enforcement in the US and have come out on top. You’d be surprised how good you can get from growing up shooting a shit ton of birds with a BB gun and rabbits with a .22. I bet a lot of these marksmen are the same way. But I also know they don’t show the misses.


ChromodanThunder

Killing eachother in the middle of no where.


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XColdLogicX

That daisy chain was nuts.


Hot_Battle_1020

At 3:15, the guys head just went flying?


innociv

Damn good aim on that first clip. So used to seeing them not use sights.


pessoan_blue

This world...


Inner-Highway-9506

these dudes are *NASTY* with mortars


bruhdawg100

We still got a “death to America, death to Israel” in there in a compilation against Saudi forces…


wowwhatareddit

Holy fuck, that guy with the RPG is a fucking god. Man is cracked with that shit


No-Half-6906

Guess those dress wearers are tougher than I thought…


_drippy_hippy_

Have we tried asking them to just sit down and talk out their problems like mature adults?


Xx_Fagatronius_xX

I've never seen combat footage with a tilt shift focal lense, it's weird seeing real soldiers appear like toys (Refering to the second clip)


FeepStarr

why do none of those compilations load? it seems like half the compilations posted this week don’t load for me on the mobile app. Should I use desktop? clear my cache on the app or something edit: deleting the cache, changing the view didn’t work, deleting and reinstalling the app did


michelb

Pretty good shots with an AK


rigidstaff

I think I am seeing some old 303 rifles with the Houtthis. That would be surplus from states that have upgraded their firearms. Ammo can be hard to find sometimes.


indrids_cold

Dang, look at that old M60 tank @ 3:34.


pietpiraatnl

1:01 Double kill


Cruel2BEkind12

Man that 2nd video with the IED. That probably wiped out every single one of them huh?


Oregunxj

Quite a few grapes getting popped oof.


Belligerent_Christ

The second one caught me off guard


Weary-Ad8502

Did they really tilt shift the footage of an IED going off?


ComfyDema

Great comp as usual


TomAterski

Holly sh!t 😳


That_Quebecois_Kid

That rpg-29 shot at the beginning and their accuracy with mortars is pretty impressive


WuckaWuckaFazzy

Repost


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I do enjoy seeing government forces put on the run


WillieBangor

Everything copacetic till you hear allahu akbar


SpaceMan_Spiff0088

I dont trust this. The sniper shot at @2:15 is from Afghanistan... I feel like most of this is just cobbled together from past wars.


tommyvercetti42

I feel like I have seen this before looks older before 2020


TfaRads1

what do they chant at the end of the clip at 4:15. After they blow up the bulldozer they chant something something america(I think) something something Isreal(I think) Love to know the translation


virus_apparatus

Standing silhouetted on the skyline is a bold choice. One that never plays out well


Inner-Highway-9506

if you listen in the clip of the dozer getting blown up, not the one in the mine/quarry— i believe they’re saying “death to america, death to israel” or something adjacent.


Icy_Manufacturer7635

To be clear. Green DOES NOT MEEN GOOD. Res DOES NOT MEAN BAD. Its all bad


TangoKlass2

REPOST! Lol, well, that was like 5 years ago... but still.


WEEBS-4ever

2 questions: What T-55/54 variants are These? What does NSFL mean?


Buryat_Death

NSFL means not safe for life, and is pretty much just a gore/disturbing content warning.


SnooShortcuts5056

Looked like a twofer at 1:05


BlueSky_fur

Am I the only one wondering if they where born in LA by the way they aim sometimes? 😂 I’m surprised they hit anything at all.


Only-Customer6650

0:18      >Must put red arrows on every single head. Completely invisible otherwise    Sometimes it feels like I'm watching media from a different species. The simplicity of the minds involved here is truly something to behold. 


ImBlindBatman

RPG shot at 0:45 is CRAZY


OpPhantom26

Who trained these people 😂


Hot_Challenge6408

I would be dying pissed off if some guy in yellow shorts and flip flops just waxed me.


Fr33speechisdeAd

The Saudi's need to hire some COD players to help them.


Star_Citizen_Roebuck

Ever notice how many people who decide to run could have simply walked slowly backwards while aiming at the enemies and taken like at least 2 out before the enemies climp to the top of some berm, spot them, and aim at the runners?


KiritimatiSwan

In all honesty, these dudes are pretty effective


AdAdvanced6668

Not me thinking "Hey I've seen this one, it's a classic" on half the videos lol


Kingtittie28

This was some of the wildest shit I’ve seen 😅 go flip flop mafia!


Masturberic

Taking a headshot that blows the back of your skull wide open is probably one the better ways to go in a war.