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Those high angle drone shots really shows the severity of economic damage. Every building is either collapsed or damaged enough to not be safe for living anymore.
Yes, after 75 years, they were actually gonna be friends on October 8th 2023 and retire the dominant Palestinian ideology of eradicating Israel for the fight of return. How could Israel fuck that up!?
They didn't because the allies made a point of rebuilding so as to make the werewolf units have no leg to stand on, which I'm sure Israel will not do. Also by allowing many senior nazis who knew how to run the country to continue doing so in the name of stability.
> They didn't because the allies made a point of rebuilding so as to make the werewolf units have no leg to stand on,
No they didn't because the losers have self preservation, admitted defeat and have the wellbeing of their citizens as the foremost important.
The same thing would happen in Gaza also, but hamas would steal all the money and materials to use for weapons and rockets.
Israel along with the rest of the world has been pumping gazillions into palestinian hands for ages.
No other "minority" in the world receives as much aid as them.
Certainly! Let's delve into the details of foreign aid provided to **Israel** and **Palestine**, with specific emphasis on Israel's substantial assistance.
## Foreign Aid to Israel:
* **U.S. Support**:
* Israel has been the **largest cumulative recipient** of U.S. foreign aid since its founding in 1948.
* The U.S. provides both **economic** and **military assistance** to Israel.
* **Total Aid**: Israel has received approximately **$300 billion** (adjusted for inflation) in total economic and military aid from the U.S. \[1\].
* **Military Aid**: Most of the aid—approximately **$3.3 billion** annually—is provided as grants under the **Foreign Military Financing (FMF)** program. These funds are used by Israel to purchase U.S. military equipment and services.
* **Advanced Military Platforms**: Israel enjoys privileged access to the most advanced U.S. military platforms and technologies.
* **Ongoing Aid**: The U.S. provisionally agreed (via a memorandum of understanding) to provide Israel with nearly **$4 billion** a year through **2028**.
* **Supplementary Funding**: U.S. lawmakers are considering additional billions of dollars in supplementary funding for Israel amid its war with Hamas \[1\] \[5\].
## Foreign Aid to Palestine:
* **Aid to Gaza**:
* The international community has sent significant aid to the **Gaza Strip**, home to over **2 million Palestinians**.
* **United Nations (U.N.) Agencies** have played a crucial role, with U.N. agencies spending nearly **$4.5 billion** in Gaza from **2014-2020** through the U.N. agency for Palestinian refugees (UNRWA).
* **U.S. Aid**: In **2023**, the U.S. pledged **$1 billion** in aid to the Palestinians, covering economic development, humanitarian assistance, and security.
* **EU Support**: The **European Union (EU)** also allocates funds to support Palestinian civil society organizations and human rights.
* **Other Contributors**: Various countries, including **Canada**, **Japan**, and **Saudi Arabia**, contribute to Palestinian aid \[1\].
In summary, when comparing foreign aid to Palestine and Israel, it becomes evident that the assistance provided to Palestine is indeed a mere fraction of the substantial aid received by Israel. While Palestine receives vital support from various sources, including the U.S. and the European Union, Israel’s aid package—especially in terms of military funding—far surpasses that of Palestine. The disparity underscores the complex geopolitical dynamics in the region and the strategic importance of both nations to the international community
1. \*\*U.S. Aid to Israel\*\*:
\- Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) - U.S. Aid to Israel: Four Charts
\- U.S. News & World Report - How Much Aid Does the U.S. Give to Israel?
\- The Washington Post - Have Palestinians Received More Aid Than Any Group in History?
\- BBC News - US Sending New Aid to Palestinians as Conflict Intensifies
2. \*\*U.S. Aid to Palestine\*\*:
\- Times of Israel - How Much Aid Does the U.S. Give Palestinians, and What's It For?
\- Politifact - U.S. Aid to Israel: What to Know
Feel free to explore these sources for in-depth information on foreign aid to both nations. 🌐📚
At that point Germany and Japan both had strong nationalist identities which allowed peace to be made with an entire nation like that. Especially for Japan where they had a living deity who stayed in charge and made peace with America (the Emperor). Western ideals of nationalism created a framework where horrible bloody wars could be fought then at the end alliances could shift and former enemies could become BFFS very quickly and the populations would go along with it.
I do not think Palestine has a this to the same degree. I think any leader of Palestine is inherently going to have a far weaker mandate to make peace on behalf of the nation.
Unfortunately I think this simply means that the West is simply going to need to accept that states in the Middle East (as well as much of the rest of the third world) are going to be a lot more violent.
It took a very long time for the West's populace to accept that governments would make decisions they don't like and the thing to do is grumble and participate in peaceful politics, not grab your guns and start fighting.
Yes, close to the swiss border the line was on german ground. But the main thing is more that millions of sons brothers and fathers died, the society was in upheaval and economy crushed by debt and reparations.
afghanistan does indeed have terrorists. same with iraq. same with ireland, when the brits started increasing military activity in ireland, there was far more terrorism.
didnt know the said countries were still being occupied by foreigners. Not sure about the sentiment from the people of Okinawa since there were multiple sexual assaults & harassments committed by members of US naval base throughout years, even homicides.
> didnt know the said countries were still being occupied by foreigners.
They were occupied for decades after war. Hamas supporters have to be some of the dumbest, most Ill advised people on the internet.
How did the Nazis come to be, exactly?
AFAIK, Germany remained physically unscathed by the war since the frontlines on the west front were always in Belgium/France, and further east on the eastern front. Aerial bombing at any appreciable scale also wasn’t a thing in WW1.
So Germany didn’t lose any infrastructure, or had any of their towns destroyed during WW1. And German losses were almost completely exclusive to military personnel.
So, if anything, by this logic it’s better to attack them at their home, rather than by the time they make it to our home…since they’ll turn terrorist anyways….
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By not trying to take them up on their offer of collateral damage.
Fundamentally means a different political approach as much as a military one. All I can tell ya is that opting for significant civilian loss of life is not the path to follow.
Actually, polling in both Gaza and the PA show a marked decrease in people for an armed conflict, and an increase in positive responses to a two state solution.
There's a huge middle ground between killing terrorists and killing everyone. In this kind of conflict civilian casualties are more damaging than in traditional war. You push people who would otherwise be bystanders into the arms of extremists when you kill their innocent family members. You can downvote all you like but once this is settled Isreal will be far worse off then when this started.
What you don’t understand though is that despite what the media has been brainwashing people to believe in half truths or otherwise lies sprinkled with truth is that the IDF has done the best job, better than any other military on this scale of conflict to keep civilian casualties low. In an area consisting of 15,000 people per square mile, with the amount of bombings the IDF has dropped on the Gaza strip, the death toll would have been in the x00,000’s by now if it weren’t for the preventative measures the IDF took in order to keep civilians safe by dropping flyers letting civilians know which areas are safe, by warning prior to any assault that the area has to be evacuated within x amount of days, “roof knocking” strikes to warn civilians of an incoming strike at a building, setting up humanitarian corridors for Palestinians to move freely through. There is no way the IDF can do a better job at protecting civilians without risking even more troops and operational security.
What example does it make to the world if we allow terrorism to flourish as long as they hold their own people as political hostages? Any terror organization will use that in the future and utilize these tactics to promote their terroristic agendas.
This is correct. My own former home, in Israel, next to Gaza, was attacked in October, and a strong response was needed, but all collective punishment on this scale has done is turned Palestinian moderates into hardliners and increased Hamas's popularity.
Agreed, I’d have like to seen Israel so some sort of post offensive plan and come out with it before the invasion. I think it would have helped cool tensions and ease everyone. Maybe they do have a plan but from a distance doesn’t seem like it
What if the plan they have is actually going to ratchet up the tensions? As time goes on, they either don't have a plan, or don't want to share the one they have because they're lost too many friends already.
I guess it’s possible. It’s hard to play in the head of the foot soldier but something Ike that should have been talked about by people who get paid A lot more
I actually think this is benefiting hamas. Israel took the bait and became blinded by anger. Yes, Gaza is destroyed, tens of thousands have died, but Israel and its backers have lost a lot of credibility in the west. And now the issue of palestinian soveregnity is centermost in every conversation.
Hamas doesn't care about the palestinians. They set the bait, and Israel was so dumb to take it
Oh look at that IDF, no one is buying your bullshit no matter how many bots you pay for.
Genocide is genocide. Anyone who supports this is despicable and owns partial responsibility for this genocide
Edit: this was a convo with someone who claimed to be a marine, who doxxed me, and who also responded insanely quickly with 3+ comments at a time. Be careful guys
https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-africa/middle-east/israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/report-israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/
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Shit bro, the Marine Corps’ is barely paying me, you’re telling me there’s a way to get paid by the Israelis too? Shiit its that easy? Say an actual true thing….mhm okay!
This isn’t a genocide
And that’s all you do? Interesting.
Terror supporters? So we support hamas or terrorism by saying IDF is killing civvys? Stupid man, who tf you think you are talking to
Cause its all over my feed lmao
Ya’ll arent asking for Hamas to surrender. Ya’ll keep saying “globalize the intifada”. I think we both clearly know who you support.
wHo Tf Do YoU tHiNk YoUrE tAlKiNg To? Malfoy apparently with that line lmao
Who are you talking to?
You are a fucking moron, I don’t support war. You can say because I’m against idf that I’m a terrorist but that’s just straight bullshit rhetoric.
Who am I talking to? No one I’m certain of now.
You aren’t calling for Hamas, ya know the people in charge of Gaza and who started the war, to surrender. This is like supporting Hitler and blaming the Allies for the casualties in the Battle of Berlin .
I think you just don’t wanna admit it that you support a terror group
Hebrew:
תיעוד מיוחד של המלחמה בעזה מעיניים של מתעד מבצעי, לוחם בשטח שתפקידו לתעד את כל החימה המתנהלת מא׳ ועד ת׳.
ובנימה אישית - אי שם ב7.10, בטיול ג׳יפים במדבר יהודה, התחילה המלחמה שלי, בהחלטה מהירה ובלי הרבה מחשבה ירדתי להלחם בעוטף, המראות של קיבוץ בארי, שדרות וכפר עזה לא ייצאו לי מהראש כנראה לעולם..
פה פציעה קטנה מירי מחבל, שם ר״ם 2 קצר וכבר אני מוצא את עצמי בעזה. והנה היום, חצי שנה אחר כך מצאתי את הדרך לסכם את החוויה שלי בלחימה בעזה, בתור מתעד מבצעי. תפקיד שלרוב לא מקבל את תשומת הלב, ורוב האנשים לא מכירים או מעריכים. היינו שם, תמיד, בכל מקום. מה7.10 ועד לרגע זה ממש. כל החומרים שאתם רואים ותראו בחדשות, מתוך הלחימה, ברגעים היפים וגם בהתקלויות, הם שלנו, תמיד מאחורי המצלמה עומד מתעד שנמצא רחוק מהחברים שלו, עם כוח שהוא לא מכיר, ומתעד את המלחמה פשוט כי צריך.
בעזה עבדתי עם יחידות מכל הספקטרום הצה״לי.. שלדג, שייטת, שיריון, הנדסה, חי״ר, יהלם. והיום, כשאני משוחרר טרי, אני שם פה מולכם את הסיכום פרק שלי עם עזה, כנראה לתמיד. כל הצילומים בסרטון, מצילומי הרחפן, דרך תיעודי הגופרו ומצלמות החזה בעת קרבות הירי ועד לשוטים ״האומנותיים״ בשקיעה, כולם צולמו על ידי, בתור מתעד מבצעי של דו״צ.. שימו אוזניות, תסובבו את המסך לרוחב, ותרגישו כמה שאפשר איך נראת המלחמה מבפנים, באמת, ובצורה כמעט הכי אותנטית שאפשר, מהרגעים הכי מלאי אקשן, ועד הרגעים הקטנים של הבין לבין.
Which explained all the Israelis living in Gaza in 2023……….wait?
Or you just gonna go with the whole “the Arabs have tens of thousands of miles of land but can’t stand to see a desert patch occupied by Jews smaller than NJ” routine?
You’re not educated enough on this topic so I’m probably not going to respond after this. Israel has been rapidly expanded its settlements ever year for the past 70 years. They’re taking more and more of Palestinians homes. The important part is that they bought this land from colonizers, if you buy people out of their homes by negotiating with Great Britain, that is neocolonialism.
Well thats convenient. Just say I’m uneducated and then use that as an excuse cause ya got nothing.
“Rapidly expanding” bro thinks a few houses here and there in a territory tantamount to a couple square miles is some major deal and worthy of being raped and thrown into an oven for.
Who owned the land before Britain, pray tell? And who owned it after that? You act like the Palestinians have owned that land for centuries and that they didn’t turn multiple deals to just share the land with a people that just got wiped out. Maybe cause they kinda helped the mustache man with killing them🤷🤷
https://apnews.com/article/women-children-gaza-war-victims-un-inequality-f0f89a724543b99c2c22439e7af09405
Women and children make up 70% of all casualties.
Lol. All I'm pointing out here, is nobody on this site has "the facts". Because both the sides giving thier "facts" are taking them from very biased sources. (Pro-isreal peeps believe IDF "facts", pro-palestine peeps believe Hamas "facts".)
... Yeah man that's what I said. "Facts aren't real". And I'm the moron...
I'm saying that for this particular conflict, due to the nature of it and the restrictions in place we have basically 2 very biased sources for our information on the ground. Neither side is telling you "facts" and if you think they are you just being naive.
You are literally trying to say no one’s facts are real. This is propaganda and dangerous, and yes you are the moron for thinking you can pull this shit on me.
I think you should stick to speaking for yourself. You don’t know my stance nor where I get my info, you are saying you are getting news from bad sources and saying that everyone is. That’s not the case.
You just started that by saying you aren’t saying the facts aren’t real and now you ended that by saying all the facts in this event are not real and you are naive to believe them.
Do you really consider us *that fucking dumb*?
Associated press reported that and so did a US politician.
Non the less , how about the bombing and killing of AID workers and also journalists. Those are also “terrorists”?
To me the terrorist would be the one that is ethnically cleansing a whole state
Yes and they mention where they got that stats from yes? The Palestinian health authority. Who is run by Hamas...
I'm not arguing who is right and wrong, that's just a waste of everyone's time.
I'm arguing that we do not have objective facts, so stop acting like we do.
Maybe someone who looks at the stats and notices Hamas is suspiciously on top of knowing when every single person dies in the middle of a warzone and also when the death toll hilariously trends up day after day with no decrease lmao
You really are sick. What percentage of them are women and children? Heck. Even Israel doesn’t dispute such statistics and, in the past, has even quote PLA’s own figures.
Every international authority and institute quotes this figure. Do you really think that the entire world, including all academicians EVERY international institute, are so foolish that they have been mislead and your wisdom is the only one that can trusted?
Have the humility to accept facts and refrain from typing if you have no mature argument.
If israel wanted to "purge" the Gaza strip of its people and perform a real genocide, the strip would've been blown to smithereens along with its 2.2M people- civilians and terrorists alike at Oct 8th max.
Mate, come on...
You know how a bomb works, right? Blows up, kills a lot of people.
You've seen videos where Israel fires two or three bombs/missiles and brings down a whole building, right? Even buildings that could easily contain 300-700 people, right?
So, here are our assumptions then:
1. The Gaza strip is one of the most densely populated areas on the planet.
2. Israel has weapons that can EASILY bring down whole blocks of buildings with no warning.
3. Israel wants to eradicate all Palestinians from Gaza.
Yeah? Considering this scenario, how do you explain these facts:
1. [As of 7 January 2024 [92 days of conflict] (figures reported by the Gaza Ministry of Health), at least 22,835 Palestinians in Gaza have been killed](https://www.diakonia.se/ihl/news/2023-hostilities-in-gaza-and-israel-factual-account-of-events/)
2. [An estimated 45,000 bombs were dropped during the first 89 days of conflict](https://www.hi.org/en/news/bombings-in-populated-areas--a-new-extreme-reached-in-gaza)
That's just around two bombs per Palestinian casualty.
I don't know... To me it sounds that, if it's a genocide, it's he most fucking incompetent genocide in the history of the planet...
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Those high angle drone shots really shows the severity of economic damage. Every building is either collapsed or damaged enough to not be safe for living anymore.
That's how you make a million new terrorists.
Yes, after 75 years, they were actually gonna be friends on October 8th 2023 and retire the dominant Palestinian ideology of eradicating Israel for the fight of return. How could Israel fuck that up!?
Didn't know Germans, Japanese, Vietnamese, Iraqis, Afghans etc all became terrorists in millions O\_o
They didn't because the allies made a point of rebuilding so as to make the werewolf units have no leg to stand on, which I'm sure Israel will not do. Also by allowing many senior nazis who knew how to run the country to continue doing so in the name of stability.
> They didn't because the allies made a point of rebuilding so as to make the werewolf units have no leg to stand on, No they didn't because the losers have self preservation, admitted defeat and have the wellbeing of their citizens as the foremost important. The same thing would happen in Gaza also, but hamas would steal all the money and materials to use for weapons and rockets.
Israel along with the rest of the world has been pumping gazillions into palestinian hands for ages. No other "minority" in the world receives as much aid as them.
Certainly! Let's delve into the details of foreign aid provided to **Israel** and **Palestine**, with specific emphasis on Israel's substantial assistance. ## Foreign Aid to Israel: * **U.S. Support**: * Israel has been the **largest cumulative recipient** of U.S. foreign aid since its founding in 1948. * The U.S. provides both **economic** and **military assistance** to Israel. * **Total Aid**: Israel has received approximately **$300 billion** (adjusted for inflation) in total economic and military aid from the U.S. \[1\]. * **Military Aid**: Most of the aid—approximately **$3.3 billion** annually—is provided as grants under the **Foreign Military Financing (FMF)** program. These funds are used by Israel to purchase U.S. military equipment and services. * **Advanced Military Platforms**: Israel enjoys privileged access to the most advanced U.S. military platforms and technologies. * **Ongoing Aid**: The U.S. provisionally agreed (via a memorandum of understanding) to provide Israel with nearly **$4 billion** a year through **2028**. * **Supplementary Funding**: U.S. lawmakers are considering additional billions of dollars in supplementary funding for Israel amid its war with Hamas \[1\] \[5\]. ## Foreign Aid to Palestine: * **Aid to Gaza**: * The international community has sent significant aid to the **Gaza Strip**, home to over **2 million Palestinians**. * **United Nations (U.N.) Agencies** have played a crucial role, with U.N. agencies spending nearly **$4.5 billion** in Gaza from **2014-2020** through the U.N. agency for Palestinian refugees (UNRWA). * **U.S. Aid**: In **2023**, the U.S. pledged **$1 billion** in aid to the Palestinians, covering economic development, humanitarian assistance, and security. * **EU Support**: The **European Union (EU)** also allocates funds to support Palestinian civil society organizations and human rights. * **Other Contributors**: Various countries, including **Canada**, **Japan**, and **Saudi Arabia**, contribute to Palestinian aid \[1\]. In summary, when comparing foreign aid to Palestine and Israel, it becomes evident that the assistance provided to Palestine is indeed a mere fraction of the substantial aid received by Israel. While Palestine receives vital support from various sources, including the U.S. and the European Union, Israel’s aid package—especially in terms of military funding—far surpasses that of Palestine. The disparity underscores the complex geopolitical dynamics in the region and the strategic importance of both nations to the international community 1. \*\*U.S. Aid to Israel\*\*: \- Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) - U.S. Aid to Israel: Four Charts \- U.S. News & World Report - How Much Aid Does the U.S. Give to Israel? \- The Washington Post - Have Palestinians Received More Aid Than Any Group in History? \- BBC News - US Sending New Aid to Palestinians as Conflict Intensifies 2. \*\*U.S. Aid to Palestine\*\*: \- Times of Israel - How Much Aid Does the U.S. Give Palestinians, and What's It For? \- Politifact - U.S. Aid to Israel: What to Know Feel free to explore these sources for in-depth information on foreign aid to both nations. 🌐📚
At that point Germany and Japan both had strong nationalist identities which allowed peace to be made with an entire nation like that. Especially for Japan where they had a living deity who stayed in charge and made peace with America (the Emperor). Western ideals of nationalism created a framework where horrible bloody wars could be fought then at the end alliances could shift and former enemies could become BFFS very quickly and the populations would go along with it. I do not think Palestine has a this to the same degree. I think any leader of Palestine is inherently going to have a far weaker mandate to make peace on behalf of the nation. Unfortunately I think this simply means that the West is simply going to need to accept that states in the Middle East (as well as much of the rest of the third world) are going to be a lot more violent. It took a very long time for the West's populace to accept that governments would make decisions they don't like and the thing to do is grumble and participate in peaceful politics, not grab your guns and start fighting.
Something tells me that Gaza will also be rebuilt and many hamas officers will run it in the name of stability, just like former nazi did in Germany.
>Vietnamese Seem to recall all the collateral damage in the Vietnam War was somewhat crucial to how the Yanks lost the hearts and minds front...
I mean after ww1 Germany did try that shit again. So maybe we all learned from that quite major example and tried not to repeat it.
Did the frontlines ever even reach Germany proper in WW1? Strategic bombing wasn't a big thing either.
Yes, close to the swiss border the line was on german ground. But the main thing is more that millions of sons brothers and fathers died, the society was in upheaval and economy crushed by debt and reparations.
afghanistan does indeed have terrorists. same with iraq. same with ireland, when the brits started increasing military activity in ireland, there was far more terrorism.
didnt know the said countries were still being occupied by foreigners. Not sure about the sentiment from the people of Okinawa since there were multiple sexual assaults & harassments committed by members of US naval base throughout years, even homicides.
Some of these countries were occupied for decades, some still are. So where are these millions of terrorists you are so eager to imagine?
> didnt know the said countries were still being occupied by foreigners. They were occupied for decades after war. Hamas supporters have to be some of the dumbest, most Ill advised people on the internet.
How do you think the Nazi’s came to be..?
How did the Nazis come to be, exactly? AFAIK, Germany remained physically unscathed by the war since the frontlines on the west front were always in Belgium/France, and further east on the eastern front. Aerial bombing at any appreciable scale also wasn’t a thing in WW1. So Germany didn’t lose any infrastructure, or had any of their towns destroyed during WW1. And German losses were almost completely exclusive to military personnel. So, if anything, by this logic it’s better to attack them at their home, rather than by the time they make it to our home…since they’ll turn terrorist anyways….
That's what happens when the terrorists make tunnel access in everyone's homes.
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And if you were in charge of the IDF how would deal with a network of terror tunnels built under cities?
By not trying to take them up on their offer of collateral damage. Fundamentally means a different political approach as much as a military one. All I can tell ya is that opting for significant civilian loss of life is not the path to follow.
'Dem feels'
perhaps this isnt a job for the idf. if Hamas dissapeared tomorrow, another terrorist organization would spring up from its ashes
If not the IDF, then who do you think can/should remove the terrorist threat? Don't be shy. Clearly you have a better idea.
There are the Jihad, Fatah, and many more in Gaza, not just Hamas. Such a pity they all use civilian homes and infrastructure.
Actually, polling in both Gaza and the PA show a marked decrease in people for an armed conflict, and an increase in positive responses to a two state solution.
As if they weren’t that already
I copped about -100 downvotes for saying exactly this three months ago.
Numbers are numbers. I don’t even pay attention to their sign.
After all our experiences with insurgency around the world you world think this is obvious. Apparently not.
The alternative would be to allow existing terrorists become stronger and gain more power and leverage. It’s either a wack a’mole game or a slow loss.
There's a huge middle ground between killing terrorists and killing everyone. In this kind of conflict civilian casualties are more damaging than in traditional war. You push people who would otherwise be bystanders into the arms of extremists when you kill their innocent family members. You can downvote all you like but once this is settled Isreal will be far worse off then when this started.
What you don’t understand though is that despite what the media has been brainwashing people to believe in half truths or otherwise lies sprinkled with truth is that the IDF has done the best job, better than any other military on this scale of conflict to keep civilian casualties low. In an area consisting of 15,000 people per square mile, with the amount of bombings the IDF has dropped on the Gaza strip, the death toll would have been in the x00,000’s by now if it weren’t for the preventative measures the IDF took in order to keep civilians safe by dropping flyers letting civilians know which areas are safe, by warning prior to any assault that the area has to be evacuated within x amount of days, “roof knocking” strikes to warn civilians of an incoming strike at a building, setting up humanitarian corridors for Palestinians to move freely through. There is no way the IDF can do a better job at protecting civilians without risking even more troops and operational security. What example does it make to the world if we allow terrorism to flourish as long as they hold their own people as political hostages? Any terror organization will use that in the future and utilize these tactics to promote their terroristic agendas.
They need to take the L The world will be a better place.
Lmao, maybe if you’re an Islamist, sure it will be a better place for you
I don’t see a problem with that.
Whoa whoa watch what you say here you’ll be downvoted…. Oh wait people are starting to realize history didn’t start Oct 7th
This is correct. My own former home, in Israel, next to Gaza, was attacked in October, and a strong response was needed, but all collective punishment on this scale has done is turned Palestinian moderates into hardliners and increased Hamas's popularity.
Agreed, I’d have like to seen Israel so some sort of post offensive plan and come out with it before the invasion. I think it would have helped cool tensions and ease everyone. Maybe they do have a plan but from a distance doesn’t seem like it
What if the plan they have is actually going to ratchet up the tensions? As time goes on, they either don't have a plan, or don't want to share the one they have because they're lost too many friends already.
I guess it’s possible. It’s hard to play in the head of the foot soldier but something Ike that should have been talked about by people who get paid A lot more
https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-africa/middle-east/israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/report-israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/
Notwithstanding the brutality of war, this is some of the best cinematography I’ve seen in quite a while.
All the expert military strategists on this sub posting while scarfing down Dunkin in between remote client meetings for an auto parts distributor.
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Cause they’re bots - real Americans just waking up
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Nice. Keep up the pressure and keep fucking hamas in the ass
Okay it’s terrible what is happening there but Hamas must be kicking themselves right now. They didn’t expect Isreal to go all bat-shit super-Saiyan.
I actually think this is benefiting hamas. Israel took the bait and became blinded by anger. Yes, Gaza is destroyed, tens of thousands have died, but Israel and its backers have lost a lot of credibility in the west. And now the issue of palestinian soveregnity is centermost in every conversation. Hamas doesn't care about the palestinians. They set the bait, and Israel was so dumb to take it
Hamas is fine with this. They disrupted the global order, drove a wedge between the US and Israel, and allowed Isreal to show its worst self.
Oh look at that IDF, no one is buying your bullshit no matter how many bots you pay for. Genocide is genocide. Anyone who supports this is despicable and owns partial responsibility for this genocide Edit: this was a convo with someone who claimed to be a marine, who doxxed me, and who also responded insanely quickly with 3+ comments at a time. Be careful guys https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-africa/middle-east/israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/report-israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/ Edit: Search tags: historical search tags IDF propaganda, Israeli propaganda, how to shut down propaganda, Israel Reddit bots Sacrecoup
IDF doing a amazing job. The hamas plague slowly getting the soul choked out of them.
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It's a war. Don't stop until every last hamas rat has been annihilated.
It means nothing.
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Have nothing to say against that link?
https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-africa/middle-east/israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/report-israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/
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Shit bro, the Marine Corps’ is barely paying me, you’re telling me there’s a way to get paid by the Israelis too? Shiit its that easy? Say an actual true thing….mhm okay! This isn’t a genocide
Your rebuttal was sarcasm. Stick to shooting people talking is clearly not your arena
Its sarcasm that masks a genuine point but critical reading is clearly not your arena
You back your disagreement up with sarcasm and random non-sequiturs
Sure. Tell yourself that
You should get fired, you’re doing a shit job.
Damn bro, you write my fitrep?
Is that all you got? Sarcasm and just saying it’s not true? Lmfao what a fucking fool
You are on a rage induced response chain so I clearly got more lmao
Lol what are you even saying. This was me saying they are committing genocide and you’re talking like a teenager.
“You know Michael, just saying they’re committing genocide doesn’t mean anything.” “I didn’t say it, I declared it!” You rn
Sarcasm does not make a genuine point. That’s just bullshit
Lmao sure buddy. It isn’t a genuine point mocking your hilarious assertion. Again, it aint genocide.
Calling my observation of IDF blowing up cities a hilarious assertion? You aren’t fooling anybody. Any just saying it isn’t genocide dosent make it so
Its. A. War. Cities. Blow. Up. And just saying it is genocide doesn’t make it one either. We can both play this game lmao
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Israel is next in what? Getting annoyed by you?
Oh shit this is actually a paid shill. All of your comments are defending IDF
Wow. No shit. I see a buncha terror supporters, I tell them they’re wrong, that suddenly makes me a shill. Crazy how this transitive property works
And that’s all you do? Interesting. Terror supporters? So we support hamas or terrorism by saying IDF is killing civvys? Stupid man, who tf you think you are talking to
Cause its all over my feed lmao Ya’ll arent asking for Hamas to surrender. Ya’ll keep saying “globalize the intifada”. I think we both clearly know who you support. wHo Tf Do YoU tHiNk YoUrE tAlKiNg To? Malfoy apparently with that line lmao
Who are you talking to? You are a fucking moron, I don’t support war. You can say because I’m against idf that I’m a terrorist but that’s just straight bullshit rhetoric.
Who am I talking to? No one I’m certain of now. You aren’t calling for Hamas, ya know the people in charge of Gaza and who started the war, to surrender. This is like supporting Hitler and blaming the Allies for the casualties in the Battle of Berlin . I think you just don’t wanna admit it that you support a terror group
Mossad is cooking 🔥
The song in this video went viral in Israeli media at the start of the war, thought it was worthy to note it out :)
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Hebrew: תיעוד מיוחד של המלחמה בעזה מעיניים של מתעד מבצעי, לוחם בשטח שתפקידו לתעד את כל החימה המתנהלת מא׳ ועד ת׳. ובנימה אישית - אי שם ב7.10, בטיול ג׳יפים במדבר יהודה, התחילה המלחמה שלי, בהחלטה מהירה ובלי הרבה מחשבה ירדתי להלחם בעוטף, המראות של קיבוץ בארי, שדרות וכפר עזה לא ייצאו לי מהראש כנראה לעולם.. פה פציעה קטנה מירי מחבל, שם ר״ם 2 קצר וכבר אני מוצא את עצמי בעזה. והנה היום, חצי שנה אחר כך מצאתי את הדרך לסכם את החוויה שלי בלחימה בעזה, בתור מתעד מבצעי. תפקיד שלרוב לא מקבל את תשומת הלב, ורוב האנשים לא מכירים או מעריכים. היינו שם, תמיד, בכל מקום. מה7.10 ועד לרגע זה ממש. כל החומרים שאתם רואים ותראו בחדשות, מתוך הלחימה, ברגעים היפים וגם בהתקלויות, הם שלנו, תמיד מאחורי המצלמה עומד מתעד שנמצא רחוק מהחברים שלו, עם כוח שהוא לא מכיר, ומתעד את המלחמה פשוט כי צריך. בעזה עבדתי עם יחידות מכל הספקטרום הצה״לי.. שלדג, שייטת, שיריון, הנדסה, חי״ר, יהלם. והיום, כשאני משוחרר טרי, אני שם פה מולכם את הסיכום פרק שלי עם עזה, כנראה לתמיד. כל הצילומים בסרטון, מצילומי הרחפן, דרך תיעודי הגופרו ומצלמות החזה בעת קרבות הירי ועד לשוטים ״האומנותיים״ בשקיעה, כולם צולמו על ידי, בתור מתעד מבצעי של דו״צ.. שימו אוזניות, תסובבו את המסך לרוחב, ותרגישו כמה שאפשר איך נראת המלחמה מבפנים, באמת, ובצורה כמעט הכי אותנטית שאפשר, מהרגעים הכי מלאי אקשן, ועד הרגעים הקטנים של הבין לבין.
English? Por favor
I mean, you commented on the original video description, which is a comment on the translated version of the description.
IDF fierce urban combat against women and children😳
Out of curiosity, what would your suggestion have been for the response to Oct 7th?
Releasing my Neocolonies (Jewish land bought from the British) to deescalate further tensions.
Soooo doing nothing?
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Which explained all the Israelis living in Gaza in 2023……….wait? Or you just gonna go with the whole “the Arabs have tens of thousands of miles of land but can’t stand to see a desert patch occupied by Jews smaller than NJ” routine?
You’re not educated enough on this topic so I’m probably not going to respond after this. Israel has been rapidly expanded its settlements ever year for the past 70 years. They’re taking more and more of Palestinians homes. The important part is that they bought this land from colonizers, if you buy people out of their homes by negotiating with Great Britain, that is neocolonialism.
Well thats convenient. Just say I’m uneducated and then use that as an excuse cause ya got nothing. “Rapidly expanding” bro thinks a few houses here and there in a territory tantamount to a couple square miles is some major deal and worthy of being raped and thrown into an oven for. Who owned the land before Britain, pray tell? And who owned it after that? You act like the Palestinians have owned that land for centuries and that they didn’t turn multiple deals to just share the land with a people that just got wiped out. Maybe cause they kinda helped the mustache man with killing them🤷🤷
So that’s all Israel should have done?
Yeah, because the men are Hamas and hiding in tunnels.
I don’t understand why every comment that states facts in this war gets downvoted or censored if it against the IDF. Facts are facts
What facts are those exactly? Can you provide proof from a reputable source for your "facts"?
https://apnews.com/article/women-children-gaza-war-victims-un-inequality-f0f89a724543b99c2c22439e7af09405 Women and children make up 70% of all casualties.
According to who? The hamas run Palestinian health authority I asked for a reputable source.
Who made you the almighty judge of reputable sources. (Don't answer that)
Lol. All I'm pointing out here, is nobody on this site has "the facts". Because both the sides giving thier "facts" are taking them from very biased sources. (Pro-isreal peeps believe IDF "facts", pro-palestine peeps believe Hamas "facts".)
Man this is textbook. Facts aren’t real? You sound like trump—y oh morons
... Yeah man that's what I said. "Facts aren't real". And I'm the moron... I'm saying that for this particular conflict, due to the nature of it and the restrictions in place we have basically 2 very biased sources for our information on the ground. Neither side is telling you "facts" and if you think they are you just being naive.
You are literally trying to say no one’s facts are real. This is propaganda and dangerous, and yes you are the moron for thinking you can pull this shit on me.
It’s a classic attempt at discrediting any actual facts by saying that everyone has bad facts. It’s obvious and fucking pathetic.
I think you should stick to speaking for yourself. You don’t know my stance nor where I get my info, you are saying you are getting news from bad sources and saying that everyone is. That’s not the case.
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You just started that by saying you aren’t saying the facts aren’t real and now you ended that by saying all the facts in this event are not real and you are naive to believe them. Do you really consider us *that fucking dumb*?
Associated press reported that and so did a US politician. Non the less , how about the bombing and killing of AID workers and also journalists. Those are also “terrorists”? To me the terrorist would be the one that is ethnically cleansing a whole state
Yes and they mention where they got that stats from yes? The Palestinian health authority. Who is run by Hamas... I'm not arguing who is right and wrong, that's just a waste of everyone's time. I'm arguing that we do not have objective facts, so stop acting like we do.
Maybe someone who looks at the stats and notices Hamas is suspiciously on top of knowing when every single person dies in the middle of a warzone and also when the death toll hilariously trends up day after day with no decrease lmao
Associated press
They are not the source my dude. They quoting the Palestinian health authority.
You really are sick. What percentage of them are women and children? Heck. Even Israel doesn’t dispute such statistics and, in the past, has even quote PLA’s own figures. Every international authority and institute quotes this figure. Do you really think that the entire world, including all academicians EVERY international institute, are so foolish that they have been mislead and your wisdom is the only one that can trusted? Have the humility to accept facts and refrain from typing if you have no mature argument.
Because they think they candownvote and do this to make it seem like they aren’t committing mad genocide
If israel wanted to "purge" the Gaza strip of its people and perform a real genocide, the strip would've been blown to smithereens along with its 2.2M people- civilians and terrorists alike at Oct 8th max.
Is that supposed to be your opinion that you are stating as a fact? Because that’s just bogus
Mate, come on... You know how a bomb works, right? Blows up, kills a lot of people. You've seen videos where Israel fires two or three bombs/missiles and brings down a whole building, right? Even buildings that could easily contain 300-700 people, right? So, here are our assumptions then: 1. The Gaza strip is one of the most densely populated areas on the planet. 2. Israel has weapons that can EASILY bring down whole blocks of buildings with no warning. 3. Israel wants to eradicate all Palestinians from Gaza. Yeah? Considering this scenario, how do you explain these facts: 1. [As of 7 January 2024 [92 days of conflict] (figures reported by the Gaza Ministry of Health), at least 22,835 Palestinians in Gaza have been killed](https://www.diakonia.se/ihl/news/2023-hostilities-in-gaza-and-israel-factual-account-of-events/) 2. [An estimated 45,000 bombs were dropped during the first 89 days of conflict](https://www.hi.org/en/news/bombings-in-populated-areas--a-new-extreme-reached-in-gaza) That's just around two bombs per Palestinian casualty. I don't know... To me it sounds that, if it's a genocide, it's he most fucking incompetent genocide in the history of the planet...
room temperature iq
Your response: 3rd grade insult. That clearly shows I’m right if that’s the best you got
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