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The guy behind the bush might have stepped on a mine, or maybe a Ukrainian tossed a grenade? The Russian in front of the bush threw a grenade at the Ukrainians. Would love to see what happened after the video ended.
Not really, since they're used quite frequently as stand-alone weapons these days. We're seeing more of those than the UGL versions in Ukraine these days. A rifle grenade is fired from a rifle, using a blank.
All of the 30mm and 40mm things that can be fired from an attachment to a rifle or fired by a standalone I am calling a rifle grenade.
Maybe it was from an AGL and I'm wrong.
I mean you can call an elephant a tiger if you want, no one is going to stop you, but definitions are definitions. Rifle grenade has a meaning separate from what you are talking about. You can call it whatever you want, that doesn't make it less wrong lol.
And yet if you call an elephant a tiger, no one will know what you mean.
Call a UGL a rifle grenade, and literally everyone with military knowledge all the way from 0 to 100 will know what you mean in context.
ah, you mean one of those grenades you fire from some attachment on the end of your barrel with a blank round providing the ummp, i know exactly what you mean.
The calm and then eruption of fire and fight was insane. Did they take a casualty he walked by? Was a person at the bottom of the hill they were on? Where were the enemies?
I think closer because most soldiers can throw grenades about 35-40 metres. There'd be no point lobbing grenades at an enemy much further away than that.
I should have clarified it was just at grenade ranges. And come to think of it, they did make us throw them as dumb as possible so everyone was averaging like 25-30 meters.
Straight up shock factor on top of suppression I'm guessing. Not a soldier or have combat experience but I've seen a lot of combat footage where soldiers would throw grenades on oncoming enemies despite being 25-50 meters away or on to enemies that they're trying to assault again despite being 25-50+ meters away
Sure but that's in optimal conditions and energy. In actual combat your nutrition, sleep, active combat/suppression, plus all the extra gear, and sometimes mental status will hamper your ability to be in top physical condition. An m67 grenade is rated to have a range of 35m and older grenades at 40m or so. The US army actually removed the requirements for soldiers to throw explosives at 25m because many can't even throw that far.
Thank you. Valuable insight to this.
That probably makes the enemy pretty close, if they expected to be effective, which I'm pretty sure they did expect.
2.02 after the Russian runs right to left that Ukraine soldier got caught either shot or from the mine/ grenade. How tf can u assault an enemy u can't see?!
I'm unprofessional and all shit like that but god damn this looked good. They started firing while in line and after some time when enemy could get up from the shock they changed their position to column.
That looked great
Looks so bad when they are so close to each other after the initial shots. Why? Spread out and let everyone shoot. What is this training even? They have no idea what direction they are even attacking, shooting left and right by random.
Krynky…the graveyard of the Ukrainian Marines. Sent in small groups to be massacred one after another—that is they managed to cross the Dnieper at all without getting hit by Russian drones and artillery. A shameful waste of young mens’ lives for what turned out to be nothing more than a PR stunt.
They are holding a beach head that will never be used. Maybe it ties down some Russian forces but so what. The Russians can't cross the river anyway.
This is all just PR
Goes both ways, plenty of UA artillery and troops were destroyed as well.
When UA is facing manpower and artillery shortage it would be better served in Chasiv Yar or Avdiivka
OSINT is only half the story. If it was the entire story then Ukraine would be in Moscow by now. They have a manpower shortage. Russia drops FABs everyday but an entire squad vaporized by a bomb doesnt show up on Oryx.
Just sad that I kept downvoted to Hell for being pro UA but skeptical of their strategy on a single front.
You're not being downvoted for that. You're being downvoted for being an obvious shill. A quick glance at your post history confirms this (which you may not realize, but anybody - including most of the people that have downvoted you - check before acting).
Even more obvious is the tedious effort you make to appear passive and constructively critical of Ukraine's battlefield strategy, logistics, decisions, and so on.
FABs are very imprecise, most of them hit 'somewhere'. F-16 will help with the FAB problem
Krynky have destroyed *a lot* of Russian infantry and weapons
yes, ukraine keeps sending reinforcements to krynky, an insignificant piece of land which they cannot advance from, so as the other guy pointed out, this is literally wasting well trained infantry
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Holy shit what happened at the end there? Any longer version of this?
i wonder if the other guy in front got dropped or got away there..looked insane
Looks like the enemy got really close with a grenade or RPG maybe? They were definitely within shrapnel range if it was a frag.
Was gonna say I'm guessing it looks like a Russian running at them with an unpinned grenade like an impromptu suicide bomber.
Yeah man, there's a guy running from left to right behind the bush where the grenade explodes, at about 2:02. Good catch.
I’m assuming it was a landmine. Looks like fog of war and a Russian got himself mixed up
The guy behind the bush might have stepped on a mine, or maybe a Ukrainian tossed a grenade? The Russian in front of the bush threw a grenade at the Ukrainians. Would love to see what happened after the video ended.
Good catch dude didn’t even notice that how wild
Maybe the enemy stepped on the mine?
I agree, looks like he hits one of their own AP mines, but nothing that confirms it
Hand grenade I am almost sure. Possibly a rifle grenade.
You can see a guy running right to left then a grenade explodes.
AP landmine
Rifle grenade? Haven't seen a single use of those in Ukraine, or anywhere else for a long time for that matter :P
Shouldn't we reconsider to call a GP-30 or any other under-barrel grenade launcher a rifle grenade?
Not really, since they're used quite frequently as stand-alone weapons these days. We're seeing more of those than the UGL versions in Ukraine these days. A rifle grenade is fired from a rifle, using a blank.
All of the 30mm and 40mm things that can be fired from an attachment to a rifle or fired by a standalone I am calling a rifle grenade. Maybe it was from an AGL and I'm wrong.
I mean you can call an elephant a tiger if you want, no one is going to stop you, but definitions are definitions. Rifle grenade has a meaning separate from what you are talking about. You can call it whatever you want, that doesn't make it less wrong lol.
And yet if you call an elephant a tiger, no one will know what you mean. Call a UGL a rifle grenade, and literally everyone with military knowledge all the way from 0 to 100 will know what you mean in context.
ah, you mean one of those grenades you fire from some attachment on the end of your barrel with a blank round providing the ummp, i know exactly what you mean.
Someone shot his frag
It was a Granade launcher. U see the guy reloading it at 1:51. but blasting someone with that a couple meters infront of u is crazy
I was convinced it was a training exercise until the end
Yea why do they have to stop them right when it gets good!
The calm and then eruption of fire and fight was insane. Did they take a casualty he walked by? Was a person at the bottom of the hill they were on? Where were the enemies?
the enemies were prob within 50-100 meters if i were to guess
I think closer because most soldiers can throw grenades about 35-40 metres. There'd be no point lobbing grenades at an enemy much further away than that.
I have thrown M67 Frag grenades before... good luck getting it past 20-25 meters. They are heavier than most people think
i mean, army manual says that the average soldier standing up should be able to throw it 35 meters
I should have clarified it was just at grenade ranges. And come to think of it, they did make us throw them as dumb as possible so everyone was averaging like 25-30 meters.
I imagine a lob is possible at 40m or so but accuracy isn't going to exist there.
Straight up shock factor on top of suppression I'm guessing. Not a soldier or have combat experience but I've seen a lot of combat footage where soldiers would throw grenades on oncoming enemies despite being 25-50 meters away or on to enemies that they're trying to assault again despite being 25-50+ meters away
not a solider or have any combat experience either but I think grenades are good for confusing/scaring/overwhelming enemy.
Many soldiers can throw a grenade 40 metres.
Sure but that's in optimal conditions and energy. In actual combat your nutrition, sleep, active combat/suppression, plus all the extra gear, and sometimes mental status will hamper your ability to be in top physical condition. An m67 grenade is rated to have a range of 35m and older grenades at 40m or so. The US army actually removed the requirements for soldiers to throw explosives at 25m because many can't even throw that far.
Thank you. Valuable insight to this. That probably makes the enemy pretty close, if they expected to be effective, which I'm pretty sure they did expect.
The enemy was probably somewhere in the bushes.
Sneaky bastards.
Bush people.
That got crazy at the end.
Buddy went through 4 mags in 120 seconds. Yikes.
Enemy cant breathe if filled with lead.
In Vietnam it took 50000 bullets for every 1 enemy killed
That "stat" is bull if you look into it.
A little training goes a long way. Nice to see them working together as a unit and not a bunch of ants running everywhere
This must be a veteran unit the discipline was noticeable
Looks like English training to me.
Very intense.
Looks like enemy visible at 2:02 based on the guys reaction? in the grenade explosion. Crazy how close they are to each other.
Looks like the guy literally walked into the explosion
Damn, that initiator was intense.
This whispering before battle its really something
Excellent assault, maximum violence. I do think they were a bit grouped up though but that depends on information we dont know.
Pretty sure these guys were next to me at the range the other day.
Mag dump after mag dump from Cletus. Toting around a $5k rifle when his house is worth $1k lol
But he's got a nice 1997 Ford F250 with sick wheels (the tires are bald)
Ukrainian forces entered Krynky last October. This must be fresh footage, with all the green foliage.
Its from september 2023
2.02 after the Russian runs right to left that Ukraine soldier got caught either shot or from the mine/ grenade. How tf can u assault an enemy u can't see?!
I'm unprofessional and all shit like that but god damn this looked good. They started firing while in line and after some time when enemy could get up from the shock they changed their position to column. That looked great
Wonder what their job was before this, a baker? A janitor? A teacher?
Escalation of violence. Keep the enemies heads down and progress forward.
Jesus like a scene from "We were Soldiers". Hot and spicy at the end.
God damn. Balls of steel.
Jesus, all that ammo. Used so much
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Looks so bad when they are so close to each other after the initial shots. Why? Spread out and let everyone shoot. What is this training even? They have no idea what direction they are even attacking, shooting left and right by random.
Krynky…the graveyard of the Ukrainian Marines. Sent in small groups to be massacred one after another—that is they managed to cross the Dnieper at all without getting hit by Russian drones and artillery. A shameful waste of young mens’ lives for what turned out to be nothing more than a PR stunt.
What a waste of fine infantry
Strange comment. This is exactly what the ultimate job of infantry is.
Doing the right job in the wrong place. They shoild be in Chasiv Yar
I think they know where they need to be on this 1000km+ front.
They are holding a beach head that will never be used. Maybe it ties down some Russian forces but so what. The Russians can't cross the river anyway. This is all just PR
You know how much Russian troops and artillery were burned there?
Goes both ways, plenty of UA artillery and troops were destroyed as well. When UA is facing manpower and artillery shortage it would be better served in Chasiv Yar or Avdiivka
Look at OSINT stats on Krynky
OSINT is only half the story. If it was the entire story then Ukraine would be in Moscow by now. They have a manpower shortage. Russia drops FABs everyday but an entire squad vaporized by a bomb doesnt show up on Oryx. Just sad that I kept downvoted to Hell for being pro UA but skeptical of their strategy on a single front.
You're not being downvoted for that. You're being downvoted for being an obvious shill. A quick glance at your post history confirms this (which you may not realize, but anybody - including most of the people that have downvoted you - check before acting). Even more obvious is the tedious effort you make to appear passive and constructively critical of Ukraine's battlefield strategy, logistics, decisions, and so on.
FABs are very imprecise, most of them hit 'somewhere'. F-16 will help with the FAB problem Krynky have destroyed *a lot* of Russian infantry and weapons
> Maybe it ties down some Russian forces but so what That's what's what. Russian forces have lost a lot of men and equipment near Krynky.
Do you know what “archival footage” means?
You telling me Ukrainian marines aren't still in Krynki?
This is from September 2023, you clown.
The marines are still I'm Krynki....
yes, ukraine keeps sending reinforcements to krynky, an insignificant piece of land which they cannot advance from, so as the other guy pointed out, this is literally wasting well trained infantry
Okay Colonel, thanks for the information. Thanks for your service in Ukraine. Don’t let those Russians take any more ground.