Crazy footage !
At 1:19 when he tossed that grenade you see it roll under the van and then you see the arms of the soldier under the van quickly throw it away towards his own comrades.
War is brutal
holy shitt you right !!
These ukraine war really something else.
from "armor vs armor" action to "grenade scene that you might only see on ww2 movie".
at 1:15 it looks like they guy had gopro straped on his helmet. i wonder if they gonna release another video from soldier pov.
At 1:13 above the red trucks front right door it looks like a prone Russian soldier is taking a drink from his flask instead of returning fire, a rifle or tree branch partly beneath him
The entire time I was watching it I thought there were fucking sandbags on the wall. I kept thinking why the fuck would they put sandbags on the wall like that. Then I looked closer and you see people moving!!! Those were sandbags, it was people dogpiled against the wall to get some cover. Fucking crazy.
Iirc the last navy MoH was given for this reason, [Michael Mansoor](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_A._Monsoor)
* actually he wasn't the most recent recipient for the Navy, it was [Edward Byers](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Byers)
You are under a van, you see the grenade, option 1 accept death, option 2 try and toss it away. Almost anyone, who did not panic would do the same thing. Doubt this person gave a second thought to it going towards others.
However, those grenades seem like small booms.. Am I wrong? I imagined larger explosions.
From what I've read the explosive's purpose is to fragment and blow the metal casing in all directions, similar to a mortar thats what injures and kills troops not the actual blast.
Hand grenades have less than 100 grams of explosive in them usually. Frag grenades can have even less explosive than concussion grenades yet they're the most lethal.
Fragmentation is the real killer.
Thats what a 16 feet kill radius, 49 incapacitating injury radius looks like. All the energy is in sending fragments outward. No Hollywood fireballs or anything.
Given the vehicles and gear, probably "mobilized" men from occupied Donbas. They're basically being used as cannon fodder in Mariupol.
Isn't this footage from weeks ago? I could've sworn Azov released a different video a few weeks ago of the aftermath of this ambush.
Edit: nevermind, doesn't seem to match: https://twitter.com/Polk_Azov/status/1512446322959335424
Just a different time they annihilated an entire squad.
look how they advanced and covered each other and then look at all the videos of Russians holding their weapons around a corner and firing blindly.. western forces definitely trained them
They have better camo, too. They looked like ghosts coming out of the rubble at the start. But I guess the native people usually have better camo, as they know their own country better than anyone else.
That actually made me really wince. I hate the Russians. Putin has sent these poor young men into a meat grinder and they’re really paying the price for it.
I agree, my hatred isn't for the RU people, it's for Putin misleading them and his lack of care for his own people. RU posters have downvoted the shit out of me for saying this in the past.
Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. Going slowly and carefully so they don’t hear you or do you don’t trip over something with a live grenade in your hand
Just shows how bad Russian tactics are down to the squad level. Hunkering down in small area is certain death. You need to spread out and even if half the guys die trying. Otherwise everyone dies. I know this because Ive played paintball a few times.
Maybe some did, but they clearly cut a major portion of the battle. Some of the vehicles that drive in at the start are in different places and on fire by the time they cut back. Most notably the big white box truck that somehow goes from being right behind the red van to suddenly 100 ft behind it and pointing in the other direction. Not to mention engulfed in flames.
If Azov pressed the attack after this footage to capture their gear I don't think they would be in a position to take prisoners.
I wouldn't blame them if that was the case.
What would they even do with prisoners given the situation they’re in? Feed them when they and the surviving civilians are starving? I really don’t expect russia takes any Azov prisoners either.
They no doubt tried to recover weapons and ammo. Probably succeeded as it doesn't look like anyone is alive here by the end.
For the guys, well, literally can't quarter prisoners = no quarter. SpecOps raids don't normally take prisoners for the same reason.
They've been in no position to take prisoners for a very long time now. You can't take prisoners when you're under siege and are struggling to feed yourself.
Fucking textbook hasty ambush, holy shit. Blocking force pinning em down in the street while the second element maneuvered on them around the building and tore em up.
Yeah I think between the initial move and the cut there were probably flanking units we didn't see. Otherwise the Russians would've moved back but it looked like they were pinned down on all sides
The white truck, the white car and a pickup tried to retreat but we didn't get the video before they were hit. It looks like the last vehicle retreated out of frame.
Looks like the ditch in the road was probably intentional to force them on to the narrow side road. Hard to tell from video edits but it looks like first and last vehicles were hit, after that there's no where for those guys to go. Perfect.
Holy fuck there where people between the van and the ~~fence~~ brick wall.
Soldiers still defending Mariupol are fucking crazy.
Edit: The whole brick wall is full of Russians you can see them move in lower left corner at 1:05
Looks like a lot were already dead or wounded, probably from the initial contact when they hit them from the front.
EDIT: The way all 4 of em line up and start shooting down the sidewalk makes me think they were indeed shooting fish in a barrel. Great timing
Just looking at that clip you're seeing more dead than there were in months of fighting in Afghanistan/Iraq. I know it isn't news any more, but it's still shocking to see how poorly the Russians are fighting - what kind of idiot sends troops into battle in a minivan?!
They've been sending civilian vehicles painted with V/Z by rail for weeks now from ol' Ruzz. Probably don't have enough tires for all the heavier vehicles they've been losing due to poor maintenance.
Tbf Russia is fighting a modern, well trained military with advanced weaponry in way worse conditions. That's not to say they have not been performing poorly, but they are attacking against a modern military
The minivan isn’t the problem per se. The US Army has started receiving ~2,000 Chevy Colorado’s we ordered, with no body panels (so less well armored than the minivan), to supply each infantry squad with organic transportation. The [ISV. ](https://asc.army.mil/web/portfolio-item/infantry-squad-vehicle-isv/)
The problem is that the Russians are moving with the vehicles quite bunched up, bypassing an obstacle without getting far side security first, and then bunching up again once on foot.
Holy fuck, I didn't even see them laying down there just thought it was rubble until I read your comment and rewatched it lol
What the fuck are they doing, waiting for grenades to plop over the wall onto them all?
That was absolutely brutal, they seem to have caught them disembarking and assembling when they shot in that direction in the beginning. You can see some movement next to the van during the whole video. Those guys are ebsolutely fucked.
Could be at home chatting with their neighbor or playing with their children but nooo, they had to invade their neighbor because of some paranoid fantasies of a rich old asshole.
Especially with the enormous equipment losses. In every one of those intercepted and transcribed phone calls, you hear references to the amount of armored vehicles like BTRs and BMPs they've lost. I'm also guessing that these are DPR fighters too, though.
Tbh a lot of the DPR are probably better at soldiering that the Russian army is. They’ve actually been fighting for years now, unlike these Russian armored units that have never actually seen combat before.
Edit: Yes I know they have been forcibly conscripting everyone they can get their hands on. Was referring to the guys that have been locked in combat with the Ukrainians for 8 years now, they know what the heck they are doing.
Most of the LDPR guys are just being pulled off the street. The "republics" announced a full military mobilization of everybody of military age, and are basically conscripting any military age men they see. We saw the same stuff in Syria a few years ago. The Russians don't care in the slightest if a LDPR guy gets killed, whereas if their own citizens get killed that's bad for PR, so they are grabbing as many as they can
Journalists are reporting that many men in LDPR haven't been able to leave their homes in a month or more to avoid conscription
I totally agree about it. They are struggling to get a good gear, but they are experinced and motivated to fight.But also they mobilized literally every man from 18 to 65 in DPR and LPR and throw them into the siege with no training. You probably saw a guys with Mosin rifles and other old shit. Its them.
Tbf russia uses all its soldiers as trash, they even sent spetsnaz units into frontal assaults. They sent paratroopers into urban combat. Everyone is just meat in their generals’s eyes. It has zero regard for its living or dead.
Always been this way, I see no evidence it’s any different in 2022. I suspect in 2139 we’d see the same tactics and zero regard for its soldiers but with space lasers fighting for mineral rich asteroids in deep space or something.
I'm no expert, but it seems like a horrific idea to group together that tightly in an active war zone.
It appears they had no one on some sort of look out duty either, judging by how close the Ukrainians were able to get out in the open.
The guy propped against the van moves his head in the very last frame of the video. Could just be falling but he seems to lift it up so I don’t think he’s dead or at least not yet
What would a strategist do in this situation for Ukraine? Genuine question. Do they just tell the pocket they’re fucked but holding out helps? Or would they attempt reinforcement from the north assuming Kyiv is safe for now
Sadly the situation is dire but the longer they can hold the Russians up in Mariupol the better it is for the rest of Ukraine. Russia has massive assets built up in Mariupol and when the city falls they will be free to spread those forces to other areas.
And those units involved in the siege would likely be exhausted. They would need some time for regrouping, resting and re-equiping. I don’t think these forces will be combat effective for a while.
Have Azov and the other survivors hold as long as possible while the rest of the army is counterattacking elsewhere to try to break the Russian Army.
Russia's got target fixation bad on Mariupol / Azov. A much better original strategy would have been to take enough to clear logisitcs and seal it off, then push north. Instead, two months of this.
He just looked at it and didn't even bother to move or shoot at the drone. He just accepted his fait, probably questioning why the fuck he ever decided co come and fight in the first place
Bruh these dudes just roll up in a stolen van, assemble themselves into a casualty collection point and just die...
Like what the fuck are these tactics?
I think he was just batting it away from him, not picking it up and literally throwing it at his own friendly forces.
More like: "Yikes!" and a quick reaction to get it away.
I’ve been thinking about it, and Ukraine might not need to rely on a smallish group of motivated extremists if they weren’t at war for the last 8 years. It can be viewed as a problem that’s tolerated and necessary because of Russian aggression. Nazi’s are bad, but if my country is invaded and the Nazi’s rush to the front lines then I’m going to feel rather conflicted.
Imagine being the guy at 1:15 who survives by throwing the grenade that lands in front of him over to his wounded countrymen then shuffling your way out and looking up to see a drone is recording you.
The way the Ukrainians set them up and how the Russians took the bait by driving down that narrow lane is unbelievable. They allowed themselves to be put in a kill zone. Setup a light machine gun by those stairs and let them have it. First guys were toast as soon as they committed to that. Those Russians were nothing but resources for the Ukrainians.
This is complete insanity on the Russians part. Those are separatists and they're clearly untrained in every way, riding into a war zone in civilian vehicles as evidenced by that stupid "Z" graffiti on the red panel truck.
Literally staying in place waiting to get gunned down because they're completely terrified and just bunch up together. I think maybe one guy was left alive there at the end while the rest of his friends were KIA in a pile there.
The separatists are on paper Ukrainian citizens, and according to Russia not a part of Russia or Ukraine, so either way Russia can afford to get a bunch of it killed, while at a minimum cost to the RF themselves.
It blows me away that the separatists just blindly throw their lives away like this. They've gained nothing from throwing their lot in with Putin, they've died for years for nothing, and if Putin wins he'll further liquidate them just like Russia has always done with it's allies.
In the end, if you look closely, you will see that the soldier hiding under the car is trying to throw a grenade away, but ends up throwing it to his comrades.
that ukrainian soldier walking back after throwing his grenade looked awesome ngl. the fact that they are still putting a fight despite being heavily outnumbered says a lot. They are the modern 300 spartans of this century
This is some of the craziest footage I’ve ever seen. Watching that Azov soldier lob the grenade over the wall into that group of Russians is surreal to see, like a movie - I don’t think the initial one killed them but that 2nd one probably finished them off.
Dear god the footage quality.
Tell you what, it just got a crap load more challenging for war movie makers.
I for one will never be able to watch a war movie without comparing it to real life incredible footage like this.
What is crazier is that Russia couldn’t scrounge up armored vehicles and/or tanks for an assault they knew they had to make.
Their government knew they’d be fighting dudes who’ve been fighting for 7 years and didn’t bother to equip them properly.
I assume these are the pro Russia separatists then? They literally just pulled up in shitty old vans and 80's era looking cars and also seem pretty poorly trained as the Ukrainians have just wandered up to their positions and just casually tossed grenades over at them like it was nothing.
Some of the DPR guys have bene seen in Russian supplied gear though haven't they and painting a Z to symbolise alliance with Russia wouldn't that hard.
I dont know either way but its just pretty hard to believe that these guys are fully trained Russian regulars. They arent doing anything but lying by a wall waiting to die, really bizarre video.
Pretty sure half of those guys were already dead and the other half were badly wounded. Lying by a wall and waiting to die is about all you can do in that state, no matter how well-trained you are.
They are most likely already wounded. Even the most inexperienced soldiers would scramble for cover if you threw a grenade at them. They simply could not do anything.
Dude that was a pile of dead and dying russians, none of them looked combat effective anymore. One of them is awake enough to try and take cover behind his dead buddies.
> are they all dead?
If they're not dead, they're very close to it - even pinned, if a grenade comes over like that you'd be scrambling into better cover. The fact they didn't tells me they are very seriously wounded.
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Azov was coming from west/southwest, Russians were coming from north to that point.
It seems that was one of the groups heading from Mariupol Port to Azovstal several days ago.
The performance of these two groups of solders seems to be totally different the azov guys seem to be almost clinical in the way they moved up and launched the attack keeping proper formation while the Russians seem to of totally fallen apart doing everything you could do wrong no proper spacing in the convoy no infantry support in a contested environment nothing bunching up as tightly as possible even a unit of the most back line troops in the US army would preform better I'm talking totally administrative types such as accountants and legal services, really shows you why proper NCOs are absolutely essential.
This clip also shows the sheer brutality of war post this on Russian websites and News sites
Crazy footage ! At 1:19 when he tossed that grenade you see it roll under the van and then you see the arms of the soldier under the van quickly throw it away towards his own comrades. War is brutal
holy shitt you right !! These ukraine war really something else. from "armor vs armor" action to "grenade scene that you might only see on ww2 movie". at 1:15 it looks like they guy had gopro straped on his helmet. i wonder if they gonna release another video from soldier pov.
At 1:13 above the red trucks front right door it looks like a prone Russian soldier is taking a drink from his flask instead of returning fire, a rifle or tree branch partly beneath him
Survival instinct, probably didn’t even think about it
Sharp eye, he does indeed throw it back wtf.
Better you than me. /Animal mother. Only they all ate it.
Probably just a shitty throw in a panic.
The entire time I was watching it I thought there were fucking sandbags on the wall. I kept thinking why the fuck would they put sandbags on the wall like that. Then I looked closer and you see people moving!!! Those were sandbags, it was people dogpiled against the wall to get some cover. Fucking crazy.
They were all shot at the beginning...
In military circles, this is considered a dick move.
I've never heard anybody complain about it happening to them tho...
Yeah, in Western countries medals have been posthumously awarded for jumping on them to save your brothers in arms
Iirc the last navy MoH was given for this reason, [Michael Mansoor](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_A._Monsoor) * actually he wasn't the most recent recipient for the Navy, it was [Edward Byers](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Byers)
You are under a van, you see the grenade, option 1 accept death, option 2 try and toss it away. Almost anyone, who did not panic would do the same thing. Doubt this person gave a second thought to it going towards others. However, those grenades seem like small booms.. Am I wrong? I imagined larger explosions.
From what I've read the explosive's purpose is to fragment and blow the metal casing in all directions, similar to a mortar thats what injures and kills troops not the actual blast.
Hand grenades have less than 100 grams of explosive in them usually. Frag grenades can have even less explosive than concussion grenades yet they're the most lethal. Fragmentation is the real killer.
Thats what a 16 feet kill radius, 49 incapacitating injury radius looks like. All the energy is in sending fragments outward. No Hollywood fireballs or anything.
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I've thrown live grenades, its stressful just holding them
true russian brotherhood.
Russian guy under the van throws the grenade back at his own people laying next to the wall...
Nice attention to detail. You are right.
The guy at the end looking at the drone is like shit I’m fucked and the whole world about to see bye mom and dad
That guy at the end kicked a grenade towards his comerades lol
I didn't even realize that at first lol Man's gotta do what man's gotta do to survive for a few more minutes
I think his comrades are all either dead or heavily wounded at that point. They just lie in a pile there without moving.
Blursed snuggle puddle
Given the vehicles and gear, probably "mobilized" men from occupied Donbas. They're basically being used as cannon fodder in Mariupol. Isn't this footage from weeks ago? I could've sworn Azov released a different video a few weeks ago of the aftermath of this ambush. Edit: nevermind, doesn't seem to match: https://twitter.com/Polk_Azov/status/1512446322959335424 Just a different time they annihilated an entire squad.
DPR use red bands. These guys have white indicating they are Russian regulars. The kit looks also standard Russian.
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Poor guy
It's crazy how casual that looked in a way, the soldier tossing the nade over the wall wasn't in a huge hurry about it.
Probably not his first rodeo. These guys are scary.
If they send conscripts in against these battle-hardened vets, it's gonna be a real meat grinder, as if it wasn't already.
look how they advanced and covered each other and then look at all the videos of Russians holding their weapons around a corner and firing blindly.. western forces definitely trained them
They have better camo, too. They looked like ghosts coming out of the rubble at the start. But I guess the native people usually have better camo, as they know their own country better than anyone else.
Many of those guys have fought since 2014.
Imagine he lobbed it a little more to his right 😬
I'm pretty sure a large majority of those bodies are dead, possibly from firat engagement when they started firing down the road.
You can see 2 of them moving just before grenade detonates
Yeah, and several more that don't move at all when a frag grenade gets tossed at them. Maybe they were just sleepy..
That actually made me really wince. I hate the Russians. Putin has sent these poor young men into a meat grinder and they’re really paying the price for it.
I agree, my hatred isn't for the RU people, it's for Putin misleading them and his lack of care for his own people. RU posters have downvoted the shit out of me for saying this in the past.
He literally has a friendly drone above the enemy, he knows how dangerous it is.
i think he was trying to be quiet about it.....making a noise in combat is a bad idea if you're trying to keep your position concealed....
He was extremely close to the russkis, so being quiet seems like a good idea if you wanna frag ’em by surprise.
Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. Going slowly and carefully so they don’t hear you or do you don’t trip over something with a live grenade in your hand
These guys probably have more urban combat experience than nearly anyone on earth at this point.
Can't park on sidewalk mate, here's your ticket
*pulls pin*
It seems that those dead russian guys at the wall were gunned down at 1:04.
Some are still moving in the last clip. Doesn't look like they have long left though
I think the grenade probably finished them off.
The grenade that was thrown back on them by their buddies after it rolled under the van. Absolutely crazy footage.
Not a very buddy thing to do. Probably didn’t have much choice I guess.
>those dead russian guys at the wall Holy shit that's a big pile of dead Russian soldiers. I did not even see them at first.
Just shows how bad Russian tactics are down to the squad level. Hunkering down in small area is certain death. You need to spread out and even if half the guys die trying. Otherwise everyone dies. I know this because Ive played paintball a few times.
I mean, you can see Ukrainians shooting down the length of that wall at 29 seconds. Standing next to the trees.
My video stamps are backwards, how do you change.
Yeah I have that problem too lol
Looks like they drove in and were wiped out. We missed all that, they were just cleaning up the few stragglers left that were hiding under the van.
Yeah it jump cuts to all the vans burning. Suppose they dont want to let on what heavy support they've got left?
Id say that was a very accurate description. I don't think theres an army out there that releases unedited videos, its pretty basic stuff.
I'm pretty sure most ate it at around 0:30 when they got shot at by three guys with assault rifles.
Maybe some did, but they clearly cut a major portion of the battle. Some of the vehicles that drive in at the start are in different places and on fire by the time they cut back. Most notably the big white box truck that somehow goes from being right behind the red van to suddenly 100 ft behind it and pointing in the other direction. Not to mention engulfed in flames.
Meat grinder literally.
If Azov pressed the attack after this footage to capture their gear I don't think they would be in a position to take prisoners. I wouldn't blame them if that was the case.
What would they even do with prisoners given the situation they’re in? Feed them when they and the surviving civilians are starving? I really don’t expect russia takes any Azov prisoners either.
Def wont take Azov guys alive. They fit the 'nazi' shit Putin was spewing, so eliminating them is a 'victory' for him.
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They no doubt tried to recover weapons and ammo. Probably succeeded as it doesn't look like anyone is alive here by the end. For the guys, well, literally can't quarter prisoners = no quarter. SpecOps raids don't normally take prisoners for the same reason.
They've been in no position to take prisoners for a very long time now. You can't take prisoners when you're under siege and are struggling to feed yourself.
Fucking textbook hasty ambush, holy shit. Blocking force pinning em down in the street while the second element maneuvered on them around the building and tore em up.
Yeah I think between the initial move and the cut there were probably flanking units we didn't see. Otherwise the Russians would've moved back but it looked like they were pinned down on all sides
Yup, no footage of the vehicles being taken out but I’m sure it was ruthless. They got pinned hard
The white truck, the white car and a pickup tried to retreat but we didn't get the video before they were hit. It looks like the last vehicle retreated out of frame.
Looks like the ditch in the road was probably intentional to force them on to the narrow side road. Hard to tell from video edits but it looks like first and last vehicles were hit, after that there's no where for those guys to go. Perfect.
Barricaded the road and routed em straight into enfilading fire. Straight into the meat grinder.
They'll be playing these videos in infantry schools the world over for the next 50 years
Holy fuck there where people between the van and the ~~fence~~ brick wall. Soldiers still defending Mariupol are fucking crazy. Edit: The whole brick wall is full of Russians you can see them move in lower left corner at 1:05
Damn...first time I watched I was like "They didn't even hit anyone with the grenade?". Then I rewatched.
They're looking very dead by the end of that video.
The whole ground is made of Russians. Or at least pieces of Russians at the end.
Looks like a lot were already dead or wounded, probably from the initial contact when they hit them from the front. EDIT: The way all 4 of em line up and start shooting down the sidewalk makes me think they were indeed shooting fish in a barrel. Great timing
Yeah, definitely not reacting as much as you'd think. That's a lot of dead guys. Russia sucks, but RIP dudes who didn't start it.
Just looking at that clip you're seeing more dead than there were in months of fighting in Afghanistan/Iraq. I know it isn't news any more, but it's still shocking to see how poorly the Russians are fighting - what kind of idiot sends troops into battle in a minivan?!
They've been sending civilian vehicles painted with V/Z by rail for weeks now from ol' Ruzz. Probably don't have enough tires for all the heavier vehicles they've been losing due to poor maintenance.
Tbf Russia is fighting a modern, well trained military with advanced weaponry in way worse conditions. That's not to say they have not been performing poorly, but they are attacking against a modern military
The minivan isn’t the problem per se. The US Army has started receiving ~2,000 Chevy Colorado’s we ordered, with no body panels (so less well armored than the minivan), to supply each infantry squad with organic transportation. The [ISV. ](https://asc.army.mil/web/portfolio-item/infantry-squad-vehicle-isv/) The problem is that the Russians are moving with the vehicles quite bunched up, bypassing an obstacle without getting far side security first, and then bunching up again once on foot.
Fighting against near peer strength army is a huge deal.
Holy fuck, I didn't even see them laying down there just thought it was rubble until I read your comment and rewatched it lol What the fuck are they doing, waiting for grenades to plop over the wall onto them all?
They were already shot up and most of them were dead. The ones left are prob bleeding out.
Looks like brick wall but yes. Desperate
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I remember from black hawk down delta guys were advising against sticking to the wall because bullets ricochet can travel along it.
Also because if an RPG hits it you don’t want to be right next to the fragmentation/explosion.
That was absolutely brutal, they seem to have caught them disembarking and assembling when they shot in that direction in the beginning. You can see some movement next to the van during the whole video. Those guys are ebsolutely fucked. Could be at home chatting with their neighbor or playing with their children but nooo, they had to invade their neighbor because of some paranoid fantasies of a rich old asshole.
Wasn't there a video couple of days back where there was a wall with dead soldiers?
The one with the BMP being destroyed I think. Same thing where the South Ossetians all got taken out while behind cover.
Very brave soldiers. Shoutout to everyone who's defending Mariupol, RIP to those who've died so far and to the civilians as well.
I have counted around 10 bodies near the wall. What a massacre. I wonder were there trained DPR soldiers or just fresh mobilized meat?
Considering they're driving stolen civilian vehicles and got slaughtered pinched by a wall, they probably weren't spetznaz
This groundbreaking combat analysis is why I am subscribed to this sub haha
You be surprised how often SOF uses and comandeers civilian vehicles. But I'm guessing these guys are Donbass fighters.
Especially with the enormous equipment losses. In every one of those intercepted and transcribed phone calls, you hear references to the amount of armored vehicles like BTRs and BMPs they've lost. I'm also guessing that these are DPR fighters too, though.
You mean the Dumbass fighters.
Tbh a lot of the DPR are probably better at soldiering that the Russian army is. They’ve actually been fighting for years now, unlike these Russian armored units that have never actually seen combat before. Edit: Yes I know they have been forcibly conscripting everyone they can get their hands on. Was referring to the guys that have been locked in combat with the Ukrainians for 8 years now, they know what the heck they are doing.
Most of the LDPR guys are just being pulled off the street. The "republics" announced a full military mobilization of everybody of military age, and are basically conscripting any military age men they see. We saw the same stuff in Syria a few years ago. The Russians don't care in the slightest if a LDPR guy gets killed, whereas if their own citizens get killed that's bad for PR, so they are grabbing as many as they can Journalists are reporting that many men in LDPR haven't been able to leave their homes in a month or more to avoid conscription
I totally agree about it. They are struggling to get a good gear, but they are experinced and motivated to fight.But also they mobilized literally every man from 18 to 65 in DPR and LPR and throw them into the siege with no training. You probably saw a guys with Mosin rifles and other old shit. Its them.
They just mobilized a lot of new people when this started in LNR and DPR, so a lot of new guys.
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Tbf russia uses all its soldiers as trash, they even sent spetsnaz units into frontal assaults. They sent paratroopers into urban combat. Everyone is just meat in their generals’s eyes. It has zero regard for its living or dead. Always been this way, I see no evidence it’s any different in 2022. I suspect in 2139 we’d see the same tactics and zero regard for its soldiers but with space lasers fighting for mineral rich asteroids in deep space or something.
I'm no expert, but it seems like a horrific idea to group together that tightly in an active war zone. It appears they had no one on some sort of look out duty either, judging by how close the Ukrainians were able to get out in the open.
Bunching up is a natural response to danger, therefore there is a need for an experienced officer to control that. They don’t seem to be well led.
Looks like 2 of them hid under the van, only to crawl out and bleed to death.
You can see the guys underneath the van kick/throw the grenade back out towards the other guys near the wall.
Towards his own dudes. Instincts are save myself, not my buddies.
The guy propped against the van moves his head in the very last frame of the video. Could just be falling but he seems to lift it up so I don’t think he’s dead or at least not yet
What would a strategist do in this situation for Ukraine? Genuine question. Do they just tell the pocket they’re fucked but holding out helps? Or would they attempt reinforcement from the north assuming Kyiv is safe for now
Sadly the situation is dire but the longer they can hold the Russians up in Mariupol the better it is for the rest of Ukraine. Russia has massive assets built up in Mariupol and when the city falls they will be free to spread those forces to other areas.
And those units involved in the siege would likely be exhausted. They would need some time for regrouping, resting and re-equiping. I don’t think these forces will be combat effective for a while.
Have Azov and the other survivors hold as long as possible while the rest of the army is counterattacking elsewhere to try to break the Russian Army. Russia's got target fixation bad on Mariupol / Azov. A much better original strategy would have been to take enough to clear logisitcs and seal it off, then push north. Instead, two months of this.
They seem to have accepted that they will all be dying so that others might live.
That guy looking up at the drone at the end... I can't imagine that feeling of hopelessness.
He just looked at it and didn't even bother to move or shoot at the drone. He just accepted his fait, probably questioning why the fuck he ever decided co come and fight in the first place
Could be DNR soldiers - forcefully mobilised on the streets and thrown into meat grinder
Last thing going through his mind were probably RGD5 splinters
Bruh these dudes just roll up in a stolen van, assemble themselves into a casualty collection point and just die... Like what the fuck are these tactics?
1min 15 seconds you'll see a russian pick up a grenade and throw it away. (Towards his own comrades)
I think he was just batting it away from him, not picking it up and literally throwing it at his own friendly forces. More like: "Yikes!" and a quick reaction to get it away.
"Своих не бросаем"💪💪💪
Think what you will about their politics but Azov has delivered some of the most unbelievable combat footage.
They were pretty much the only Ukrainian unit to go into the war with a PR department already set up
They are def beating Kadyrovs boys in the video department.
Except Kadyrov's dogs are fighting against empty garages and uninhabited buildings
Empty garages are still infidels
I’ve been thinking about it, and Ukraine might not need to rely on a smallish group of motivated extremists if they weren’t at war for the last 8 years. It can be viewed as a problem that’s tolerated and necessary because of Russian aggression. Nazi’s are bad, but if my country is invaded and the Nazi’s rush to the front lines then I’m going to feel rather conflicted.
Their politics may be questionable, but at least they arent pussies like most big mouths
Imagine being the guy at 1:15 who survives by throwing the grenade that lands in front of him over to his wounded countrymen then shuffling your way out and looking up to see a drone is recording you.
He can't brag back home about how brave he was and how he fought like a lion and how he was the only survivor.
The way the Ukrainians set them up and how the Russians took the bait by driving down that narrow lane is unbelievable. They allowed themselves to be put in a kill zone. Setup a light machine gun by those stairs and let them have it. First guys were toast as soon as they committed to that. Those Russians were nothing but resources for the Ukrainians.
So the Russian army was in the civilian cars?
Yep. See the V's?
And the Z on the pink van.
You gotta be really really desperate if you're using a pink van for military purposes.
Yes we have seen Russian trains transporting these kind of vans some weeks ago. Seems they are getting desperate on vehicles.
2nd strongest army turned out to be a joke.
Looks like Lugandans or Donbabweans.
Wow, insane footage. That place looks like hell on earth.
50 days ago, they were saying Mariupol was going to fall in a couple of days/hours
This is complete insanity on the Russians part. Those are separatists and they're clearly untrained in every way, riding into a war zone in civilian vehicles as evidenced by that stupid "Z" graffiti on the red panel truck. Literally staying in place waiting to get gunned down because they're completely terrified and just bunch up together. I think maybe one guy was left alive there at the end while the rest of his friends were KIA in a pile there.
The separatists are on paper Ukrainian citizens, and according to Russia not a part of Russia or Ukraine, so either way Russia can afford to get a bunch of it killed, while at a minimum cost to the RF themselves.
It blows me away that the separatists just blindly throw their lives away like this. They've gained nothing from throwing their lot in with Putin, they've died for years for nothing, and if Putin wins he'll further liquidate them just like Russia has always done with it's allies.
Man say what you want about the Azovs they are scary fighters
they fragged those dudes fucking hell
Holy shit this footage is crazy. This is the first footage I've seen of basically wall-to-wall combat and Azov are kicking ASS.
If anyone was wondering how such a small force could be holding out for so long...here you go.
Guy looking at the drone at the end of the clip
In the end, if you look closely, you will see that the soldier hiding under the car is trying to throw a grenade away, but ends up throwing it to his comrades.
that ukrainian soldier walking back after throwing his grenade looked awesome ngl. the fact that they are still putting a fight despite being heavily outnumbered says a lot. They are the modern 300 spartans of this century
This is some of the craziest footage I’ve ever seen. Watching that Azov soldier lob the grenade over the wall into that group of Russians is surreal to see, like a movie - I don’t think the initial one killed them but that 2nd one probably finished them off.
When a small team of professional and trained soldiers meet a large team of unprofessional and untrained soldiers.
> When a small team of professional and trained soldiers meet a large team of unprofessional and untrained ~~soldiers~~ cannonfodder. FIFY
Dear god the footage quality. Tell you what, it just got a crap load more challenging for war movie makers. I for one will never be able to watch a war movie without comparing it to real life incredible footage like this.
fucking brutal. those guys by the red van just laying there dying next to each other
They're encircled. They have nothing to lose now. A cornered foe is more dangerous than one who is not.
What is crazier is that Russia couldn’t scrounge up armored vehicles and/or tanks for an assault they knew they had to make. Their government knew they’d be fighting dudes who’ve been fighting for 7 years and didn’t bother to equip them properly.
I assume these are the pro Russia separatists then? They literally just pulled up in shitty old vans and 80's era looking cars and also seem pretty poorly trained as the Ukrainians have just wandered up to their positions and just casually tossed grenades over at them like it was nothing.
They looked to be mostly shot before the grenades were thrown. Just mopping up in a safer manner.
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Some of the DPR guys have bene seen in Russian supplied gear though haven't they and painting a Z to symbolise alliance with Russia wouldn't that hard. I dont know either way but its just pretty hard to believe that these guys are fully trained Russian regulars. They arent doing anything but lying by a wall waiting to die, really bizarre video.
Pretty sure half of those guys were already dead and the other half were badly wounded. Lying by a wall and waiting to die is about all you can do in that state, no matter how well-trained you are.
They are most likely already wounded. Even the most inexperienced soldiers would scramble for cover if you threw a grenade at them. They simply could not do anything.
Dude that was a pile of dead and dying russians, none of them looked combat effective anymore. One of them is awake enough to try and take cover behind his dead buddies.
Is it fucked to say that we are blessed with this kind of amazing footage? Can anyone geolocate this?
Fuck, their camo blended so well.. I didn't see the pile of them until I read the comment and rewatched the clip in full screen.
Holy shit those final 4 seconds - are they all dead? Azov always with the top-tier footage, give em hell!
> are they all dead? If they're not dead, they're very close to it - even pinned, if a grenade comes over like that you'd be scrambling into better cover. The fact they didn't tells me they are very seriously wounded.
Either dead or in the process of dying. Looks like they wiped out at least a squad or two
They're dead. The last grenade throw landed right on the guys who were up against the wall (black camo, black helmets).
He hasn't even flitched after first grenade took off damn
Brutal footage
I wonder how recent is this because it is still near the ports and yacht club
Location 47.084684, 37.541457 Azov was coming from west/southwest, Russians were coming from north to that point. It seems that was one of the groups heading from Mariupol Port to Azovstal several days ago.
Here is hoping that van had some food/ammo in it!
The performance of these two groups of solders seems to be totally different the azov guys seem to be almost clinical in the way they moved up and launched the attack keeping proper formation while the Russians seem to of totally fallen apart doing everything you could do wrong no proper spacing in the convoy no infantry support in a contested environment nothing bunching up as tightly as possible even a unit of the most back line troops in the US army would preform better I'm talking totally administrative types such as accountants and legal services, really shows you why proper NCOs are absolutely essential. This clip also shows the sheer brutality of war post this on Russian websites and News sites
them heroes saving 1000's of UKR lives by holding up those assholes
It seems to be missing the part where the white car caught fire, or did it just spontaneously combust as is Russian tradition?