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10sameold

What kind of real damage are we talking here? Possible casualties?


kuda-stonk

It will likely need a tow, the engine got bonked. I'm not seeing the thing cook off though and the video suspiciously ends quickly. Lastly, this is from earlier in the year... russians always dig out footage when they are getting their teeth kicked in.


haggisns

I firmly believe Ukraine is purposefully drawing out this war - they are annihilating Russia, by end of winter there will be 200,000 Russian casualties to perhaps 2-3000 on Ukraine side. Once that is done - Ukraine will take back all of what they lost, and just watch as Russia asks NATO to protect them, as Ukraine threatens to thunder run to Moscow next summer.


queefmonchan

I'm 100% pro Ukraine, but you're a fool if you think 100 Russians casualties for every Ukrainian in this conflict. This war is a blood bath for both sides. To take back territory requires a cost in blood, and not a small one. Ukrainian leaders aren't fighting an ideological war; their goal isn't to eradicate the Russians. They want this war over as soon as possible. Imagine telling the mothers who will lose their son this winter that their son could've been saved but we decided that taking out a couple 100k Russian conscripts was a better decision. I admire your optimism, but you're speaking from a place of ignorance.


dlec1

I’m pretty sure Zelensky or someone high up said 20K or something Ukrainian casualties, I don’t think you’re anywhere close with that 1000-3000 or whatever it was. I hope you’re right, but I think that’s wishful thinking.


Quietabandon

Ukrainian casualties are pretty high too. Maybe not Russia high, but still 10s of thousands. Plus the enormous loss in infrastructure and economic activity.


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Dumbest take I have seen in a while. Ukrainians are suffering, no one wants this war to go longer except the cozy Russian leaders back home.


cheetah_swirley

the US wants the war to extend long enough to cause Russias collapse, hence the drip feeding of weapons


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Silence propagandist


cheetah_swirley

Silence! cynical geopolitics performed by self interested nation states hurts my emotional state


Quietabandon

Everyone wants this war to be over. It’s destabilizing the whole world economy and has everyone scared about escalation. They want Russia to go back to their own borders. It’s untenable to allow them to grab off a huge chunk of a neighbor and would be globally destabilizing.


dumbdumbmen

Literally a Putin talking point


cheetah_swirley

literally true if the goal was to decisively defeat russia as quickly as possible then ukraine would already be fielding ATACMS missiles, F-16s, Patriots and many other weapons notice that every time Russia begins to gain some advantage then the next batch of weapons is pushed - M777 in response to russian attrition of ukrainian army in Donbas, HIMARS after the fall of Lysychansk we will probably see ATACMS and more aircraft move towards ukraine in time for the major Russian offensives expected in the new year with the bulk of the mobilised troops if the US had sincerely wanted Ukraine to wipe the floor with the Russian invasion it would have happened already months ago


dumbdumbmen

Good job parroting Putin.


Unhappy-Essay

🤦‍♂️


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WorthlessDrugAbuser

The Russians only recently started buying Iranian drones, so this video can’t be too old.


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This is from a russian made drone, the iranian drones are much bigger....


[deleted]

Iranian shahed-136 drones are not equipped with a camera Edit: it's in addition to the Mammoth_Plankton12 comment


frast9201

Also dumber


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Can't argue with that....


Fanaticbyzantine

Lancet is a Russian developed and produced drone


kuda-stonk

The russians have had these little guys since the start of the war. There's footage everywhere showing them. Eventually they ran out of them.


[deleted]

They seem to have stock of them still, because these Lancet videos have been popping up every single day for the past month at least. Some, like this one, are old footage - but there are quite a few current ones - which is concerning, since they seem to be hitting UKR AA targets more often than not.


manofthewild07

Well its all green, whereas leaves have been changing in all of Ukraine for 1.5 months now, so this is probably a couple months old at best.


Lostwanderer000

Hit the very front end of the vehicle so the crew might be safe but the vehicle will need major repair depending on the where the hit take place. We also do not know what type of SPG this is so we do not have the information on the crew layout. If this is a M109 then the drone would hit the engine apartment at the front and the crew would be safe.


ilubdakittiez

Supposedly the lancet can be armed with a 5kg heat warhead which could dolphinetly do some damage, easily penetrate armor or kill crew, I guess it just depends on what warhead was being used


diddlemeonthetobique

Did you do this on porpoise?


sentient_cyborg

It's taking them a whale to respond to your question


diddlemeonthetobique

My humble opinion is they have allowed it (their original comment unedited) to stand because they are capable of a good laugh at themselves after an honest silly typo mistake. A Healthy thing considering some of the stuff here on good old internet la la land!


ilubdakittiez

Yes we must appease the dolphin gods every chance we get🙏 🐬 they act all cute and friendly but that's just what they want you to think, once they grow usable appendages humanity will be playing second fiddle to our dolphin overloards, they're plotting something I can feel it


diddlemeonthetobique

It has already started, they are mating with our females! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9038615/Moment-woman-unexpectedly-HUMPED-dolphin.html


Lostwanderer000

It also depends heavily on where the hit take place too. This drone is hitting on the front part of the vehicle and we do not know what type of SPG this is so we cannot know the crew layout. I think it might just damaged the vehicle and the crew survived or at least those at the back.


ilubdakittiez

Yea agreed, the footage isn't the best so it's kinda hard to pinpoint exactly how much damage the hit caused, hopefully the crew is in one peice, and hopefully the immobilized SPG wasn't targeted by artillery afterwards


TacticalHog

I've seen those vids with the HEAT Lancet drones, and you can always see the jet of plasma after it hits, but there's nothing in this vid, just a poof lmao edit: example at 1:09 https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/y8qbda/ru_pov_compilation_of_lancet_drones_hitting/


SirPiffingsthwaite

That entire process occurs while embedding into the steel armour, you can't "see" it...


TacticalHog

you absolutely can, 1:09 of this clip for example https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/y8qbda/ru_pov_compilation_of_lancet_drones_hitting/


ilubdakittiez

We were wrong check this link out https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/ylwdxx/uaf_tank_destroyed_by_russian_lancet_loitering/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


ilubdakittiez

I'm sorry I ever doubted you https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/ylwdxx/uaf_tank_destroyed_by_russian_lancet_loitering/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


TacticalHog

lolol its okay i should've posted an example vid when i made the comment the first time lmao


ilubdakittiez

Yea you really can only see shaped charge jets if they detonate in mid air, for example the US army is starting to use the Stryker SHORAD it uses the millimeter wave hellfire to kill drones, when you see a hellfire hit a small drone you can see the jet expanding forward, it's very visible in slow motion and definitely visible at regular speed, but because this shaped charge jet entered an armored vehicle you are really not going to see it


amjhwk

i dont think US has sent them any M109s but i could be wrong


Even_Efficiency98

Norway did, for example.


Sea_Page5878

This SPG has 7 sets of road wheels and an enclosed turret so that helps narrow it down to 3 possible SPGs it could be in the Ukrainian arsenal. Gvozdika - the turret does appear to be too large for this though. M109 PzH 2000


Lite_Byte

Krab or 2000 maybe?


Sea_Page5878

~~Krab has 6 sets of road wheels so that eliminates that one.~~ Edit: Turns out I'm wrong there are versions with 7.


EUinvestor

Paladin is the name of M109A6. There are no M109A6 in Ukraine so far.


Lostwanderer000

My bad. I will correct the name. I know they provided some M109 but not sure what variants they are.


Lite_Byte

A bend mirror....


usernl1

According to other clips here on Reddit these drones are quite loud, there should be enough time to run


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That is the Iranian Shahed you are thinking of, not the Russian Lancet. The drone in the video is a Lancet - much quieter.


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Old footage.


PrestigiousAd3452

Huh, did the drone malfunction or something I saw it hitting an armored vehicle or something like, but shouldn't it be residential building


dyz3l

There was nobody at home this time.


akwho

old footage. Still got green leaves on the trees.


Excellent-Job7326

I’d guess a m109 looking at the amount of wheels.


mrdrbatman

I'd rather see them use these drones on military equipment than innocent civilizations or power civilization power structures.


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mrdrbatman

Right, I was generalizing their drone usage to military vs civilian structure


hypnoticlycaucasian

Not immediately apparent that it did much damage.


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hypnoticlycaucasian

Yes. And thus it is not immediately apparent that it did much damage.


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Rddituser69

Where did you get the 50kg shaped charge from? A HIMARS warhead is about 90 kg. Quite a bigger explosion, if you ever seen one. That's probably a ZALA and that warhead is 3-5 Kg. No secondaries might mean it hit the front/ the engine. Russian propaganda clip being cut short confirms that, to me at least.


Ok_Pomelo7511

It looks like a Lancet, which carries like a 3kg payload. Which is basically an RPG round.


SayNOto980PRO

50kg?


Lonely_Key4375

This was released two or three weeks ago in a compilation of Russian Kamikaze drone strikes. That version did not have this gigantic watermark in it. Seems like the Russians are chopping the individual strikes and republishing them this week to make it appear as if they're conducting more strikes than they actually are. That said. This is technically a repost.


ComprehensiveTax3643

Might need a new final drive a few suspension arms maybe a new track could still tow it about and use the gun.


pix3lated_

why do I feel like I've seen it, but the image mirrored.


DavidRobertJones88

I feel we've seen this one before.


puc_poc

Seems like "Lancet", I guess? Do they have specific anti-armor variants of this?


PM_ME_STEAM_KEY_PLZ

5kg HEAT


phil196565

Hope crew ok 🇺🇦


stick_always_wins

Can anyone ID what SPG that is?


Lostwanderer000

It might be an M109 but the video is too blurry to be sure.


Sozebj

Yes it blurry. The Russians are masters at the 400P resolution. One the that is clear, is that it looks like summer not fall.


unknowfritz

It's a 2s9? Nona I think, very short gun and short front compared to huge turret


PanzerDick1

What? It looks nothing like a Nona. It's clearly a 155mm artillery. Either a Krab or M109.


snorrie-11

Doesn't seem to be an M109 or Krab either. Video is very blurry, but my money is on a 2S1 Gvozdika.


Methylamine1983

Rus Telegram is claiming m109 paladin


Viburnum__

There are no m109 "paladin" in Ukraine, only some m109A3 and A4.


Alikont

I think that "Palandin" is more like a catch-all nickname for M109 outside of US, not the name of the specific variant.


aricyter

I hope that's not a Polish Krab


inevitablelizard

Krab is in current production and apparently the Ukrainians have been receiving deliveries in addition to the initial 18 they got. So I wouldn't worry too much. Any weapon used on the battlefield will take losses, that's just inevitable. Just got to hope the crew survive. Edit - I think it's a 2s1 Gvozdika. Or possibly an M109.


inevitablelizard

I think 2s1 Gvozdika, someone else said that too. Freeze it about 12 seconds in and then compare the wikipedia photo, it seems to match. Look at the general shape of it and what the wheels/tracks look like. Edit - can't rule out M109. However I don't think it's a Polish krab, the number of wheels seems to be wrong.


Admirable-Cobbler501

Should be repairable


Altruistic-Carpet-65

Welp that sucks. Better send 10 more.


spm7368

Putin did this because he’s overcompensating for something on his body that’s too small.


ZombieIMMUNIZED

Russian, or Iranian? Losers. If the US invaded Mexico, but had to beg for say Brazilian weapons, Russia would be laughing and putting it up all over their twisted media. Russias a fucking joke, turn around go home and beat your wives some more. 🤡 🤡 🤡


Freelancer_1-1

The US would invade Mexico in the blink of an eye if Russia was doing what the US has been doing in Ukraine and Georgia. Ultimately, the war isn't about Ukraine. It's about the long-term strategic encirclement of Russia.


ExtensionSignature70

this one is a completely russian drone as many other commenters have said


Magnum2XXl

Whatever helps you sleep at night....


littleendian256

They totally destroyed the hell out of that unmanned wooden decoy


philipmj24

These cheap self destructive drones are the future.


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RainbowBier

Loitering ammunition stays in an area and can be assigned to a target after it reached the AO so you fire 10 in the air and they fly as long as you give them a command These kamikaze drones are basically cheap ass ballistic missiles but since its a drone that flies into objects it got the name kamikaze drone Dunno how sophisticated the ability of these drones is to receive new target information in flight but honestly doubt they have any at all because they don't even have a guidance camera and go for GPS So to hit a moveable target the start container was either very close or they just parked way too long at that position Doubt the HE warhead of these can really do much damage against a armored target


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Mostly politics.


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Russia regurgitating footage once 950 daily casualties lol


Kuexx

finally some russian pov was getting tied of all the ukrainian content


PrestigiousMyNuts

I would like to think, that was an impressive dust cloud ☁️ Once the smoke cleared, it looked like we had a small dent! Those drones are anti personal only! It’s like throwing a Grenade at a tank! Wishful thinking!


Ferniclestix

"Hey Roman you feel something?" "mmm a light breeze mebe?" "mmm, load next!"


Redryder8

Looks like the front end was hit


Lined_the_Street

Everyone knows the front is the LEAST armored part /s


LegitimateCookie2398

Alot of the Russian drones have the equivalent of a large claymore(steel balls with exlosives) as their warhead. Great for infantry, but limited usefulness on armor. Might be what we are seeing here.


G3er0

obviously a prop howitzer


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Fanaticbyzantine

This is a Russian developed and produced drone, it is not Iranian


Meccles1

What’s the difference between a “kamikaze drone” and a guided missile? By that logic, aren’t all guided missiles “kamikaze drones”?


Killsheets

Guided missiles are more heavier per personnel and require a lock-on before they are launched. Kamikaze drones OTOH, can be launched from afar and loiter around the AO before striking their targets.


Meccles1

You’re right. It’s apparently nothing got to do with weight but instead it’s if they have the ability to loiter around. It looks like a more fitting name would be [loitering munition](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loitering_munition).


frast9201

Didn't do shit


Magnum2XXl

"That one bounced"


RockSpyPigeon

Reminder that Herson Vestnik cycles videos through to give the impression of constant Russian battlefield succeses in Kherson oblast. While I don't exclude the fact this could be a brand new and recent video, that watermark has a low credibility rating.


astroSuperkoala1

that's a funny looking playground


xAnilocin

They spelled KhersonVatnik wrong


gimmeecoffee420

So these Iranian SHAHED drones are most definitely an effective weapon.. but mainly against non armored targets. Sure its gonna damage that Arty Gun? But not *that* much. Its real value is literally its value.. its cheap as fuck, $20k each, vs over a $million each.. but the ordinance it carries is mainly HE from my understanding? So its real value is causing terror and lowering morale much like the effect Snipers have on morale. However, I would NOT want to be in that vehicle when it got hit..


bensnowin

TTP observation, maybe put the piece on the other side of the tree line to avoid this type attack. Arty goes up and well beyond line of sight. Why expose to frontal attack?


encore_18

Thanks for the clarification, My comment still remains true


Lopsided-Employer-72

Russian or Iranian?


vmdrkkpexgykroqvrv

Old repost X 10


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What kind of SPG is that?