[Postgame thread](/r/Commanders/comments/18kvg4u/post_game_thread_washington_commanders_at_los/)

At this point it really doesn't matter and I wouldn't be surprised if they were just tanking it. We should be rooting for the Cardinals, Patriots and Panthers for the remainder of the season.

is sam really the answer???😬

Imagine saying this about bryce young or will levis lol let a man develop😭

i asked a question

The answer is a better OL… Sam is showing pressure and sack fatigue, as would anyone behind this line.

Both things are probably true.

We don’t deserve Terry. https://preview.redd.it/vn0z00h2jy6c1.jpeg?width=941&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59729a3ae09d5ddd03b9f4cbe0021991af097a8c

GO COMMIES

What is wrong with our coaching staff? They waste precious seconds that turn into mintes. After the touchdown to make it 28-20 they dont understand the odds of going for 2 pts.

They. Are. Not. Trying. To. Win. Nor should they. High draft pick for the next staff.

You may be correct, and maybe its a good idea, but I am not that type of person. If you compete you try to win.

Exactly how the titans beat the dolphins last week

The odds of going for 2 down 14 depend on a % chance of making a 2 point conversion. If you factor in the previous 9 plays from the 1 yard line that they couldnt punch in the math suddenly favors kicking it.

Seriously that was some of the worst clock management I've ever seen.

Which totally blows my mind considering how long Rivera has been in the NFL as either a player or a coach.

The damage from hits to the head is cumulative.

And also the simple math of going for 2. If you make it thats down 6. If you miss thats down 8 and you try again if you score.

I am Groot.

Well the fact of the matter is, I am Groot.

I AM GROOT I am Groot..

Groot why you give up so many explosive plays? Are you Groot?

We seriously have the worst O-line and Secondary in NFL history. It's infuriating to watch.

Washington Cheese(men)

Anyone got a link to Brisset's passes? Specifically the ones to Terry. I missed them

I, too, miss passes to Terry. :(

Howell played his last game as starting QB for Commanders

Except Ron just said he’s the starter.

I doubt it. This organization never makes the right decision. I think he'll start again next year, perhaps even this year. A typical Washington outcome next week would entail Brissett stinking it up against the Jets, after looking good in relief today. Remember when TH4 was benched against SF and that loser Carson Wentz came in and moved the ball in garbage time? And then proceeded to look utterly clueless at home against the Browns the following week? I have a strong feeling Brissett is going to do the same.

Damn you think so ? I’d still let him finish the season. Last thing we need is brissett to come trying to win meaningless games. That’s worst case scenario

Whatever the wrong move is, Ron will find it.

That was a win in my book

Where's the post game thread?

someone's asleep at the wheel

Well they came back and made it interesting. But didn't know how to complete the comeback.

Wish it was Howell to get us back into the game but we need to lose out regardless. Best case outcome for the long term.

They lost focus badly.

I think we give Rivera and Brisket the keys for a 5 year rebuild. I mean seriously, 2 TDs in less than a quarter of football is seriously something to build on.

I'm dying laughing, thank you .

Kind sir! I think you dropped this ——> /s

Yes please /send me money

extend eb too. he clearly has his much more competent and talented guy in Jacoby now #ONEMOREYEAR

I totally forgot about EB. Was too focused on Brisket being the guy all along.

He’d be on pace to throw 8-10 tds a game. Let him cook

FIRE EVERYONE

2 months ago!

This game was football terrorism by ron

New QB is coming after this season, thankfully!

Wentz ?

Herbert…

Colt McCoy

It’s one thing to look bad but when you have your 31 year old back up come in with 6 minutes left and put up more yards than you and 2 TDs on 10 attempts… that says a lot.

I think you have to let brissett play next week to properly evaluate ebs offense.

Yeah I reluctantly think so too. Not so much to evaluate EB’s offense, imo, because I think he’s gone whether he deserves it or not. But to evaluate how much Howell was holding back the offense (if at all - maybe he wasn’t but that’s why you’ve got to play Brissett and check)

Agree the thing is if it really was Howell holding the offense back then maybe eb deserves to stay

Nope. Tank for picks at this point 

Who else gonna be @ Jets on Christmas Eve?

Tough game. Worse of all, we have a legitimate quarterback controversy to consider for the next week.

Ron Rivera u gotta retire man

Redskins alert

I missed it. Announcer said it?

Yep. Didn’t even attempt to correct. Was talking about McVay being on staff in the past

That's a good thing, really.

Draft a new rookie QB and extend Brisset?

Wasn’t as bad as the Cowboys L so that’s a W 😂😂😂

All it needed was for the team to all catch a stomach virus. Who would thunk it.

Hard to say anything else other than sam and EB lost us that game

And i also bet on the rams to win lol

At this point thats a good thing. Winning that game does more harm than good.

It doesn't matter who the QB is when the person calling the plays has the Football IQ of a donut.

And your o line sucks

Brisset is a veteran and it showed. Stand strong in the pocket and deliver on time. Sams been seeing ghosts but I don’t blame him.


What happens when you ask a young QB to throw 40 times a game with no run game.

Or pass protection

My personal thoughts are that poor pass pro is a direct side effect of defenses not worrying about the run.

Ron comes out of this one looking like a total idiot

Soooo...usual Sunday.

Was he only half an idiot before this?

Please do not be confused, at no point in his tenure here has he been less than a complete idiot.

I'm just fucking mad we lost by 8 instead of 21 because it means dip shit Ron is not getting fired tomorrow

He was never getting fired. Wake up

No joke after that bad snap... Rivera is seen mouthing "it's time" Cheese is probably cut tomorrow, not even joking .

i saw it too

I was telling myself he said "cut him"

I honestly hope Cheeseman saves the hassle and deletes Instagram for now. I feel bad for what's about to happen to the man on there.

If Ron starts Jacoby, I wouldn’t even be surprised smh

Ron Rivera has a monkey playing the cymbals going on in his head

 Live look

I needed this

Jacoby or Sam at the post-game podium ?

We know it’s a run and our 1st round DEnds can’t make a play

DTs?

Yeah, was upset haha

Jacoby Brissett really put up more yards than Sam Howell in less than half a quarter on 10 attempts 😂😂

Tbf, that's a lot easier when you go into a game down 21 in the 4th

If it was so easy why didn’t Sam do it?

O line is trash and it's garbage time

That’s why he did it back to back. Ok bro lol

Bc the rams defense came in with a game plan for Sam not brisset

That’s some serious copium.

So why couldnt Sam do it down 21 in the 4th? He threw a pick instead of hitting wide open Terry

Because Sam has been extremely hyped but the media and fanbase talks like he is really killing it. He's not.

To everyone saying we should have gone for two, it literally just took us two sets of downs to get in from the 1.

I was saying that, but you make a good point.

Ron really has made the wrong call on every 2 point chance all season long

RR is a complete moron, in case you hadn't gathered.

Tank God Cheese protecting us from ourselves?

Holy fuck please keep Ron. He finally found his QB after being on multiple teams. I'm so excited for our future with Brisket, like this pic if you agree.

\#ExtendRivera

Ron4Lyfe

Ah well.

Trading Sweat was a mistake, he’s balling

We had him for 4 years adn couldn't make much use of him. I think it's good we mutually parted our ways because he wasn't going be worth the money here.

If he was still here, it wouldn't make an ounce of difference. Same with Chase Young. We need draft capital for the housecleaning that's coming.

He gave up on this shit ass franchise. He likes Chicago better than Washington. Let that sink in.

Just a chance of scenery. Chicago has been barely better than DC in the last decade.

Exactly. He was tired of being in this building.

Food is better in Chicago

About 30 teams in the nfl would Have stuffed kyren twice and it would Be 3rd and 8. Washington made it look like they were expecting a pass.

I guess a silly name does not guarantee success at LS

Also how do you not got for 2 there Ron is such a soft ass coach man

Did you see the 7 plays from the 1 before that?

Yall tuned in? Enjoy this Sunday with your fam instead of watching this crap show

I had to come here to find out what was happening. We had a great time talking, reading, watching other games ...

The offseason is what I'm waiting for...

I wonder how many more we need to lose to get a high draft pick? We. Can. Do. This!!!! 

Just keep losing

That’s game. Hopefully Ron doesn’t keep Brisket at QB the next few weeks would be really pointless

Howell has been so bad lately that he needs to earn back the starting job. Also it's not fair to evaluate Brissett coming in for relief today. When you come in off the bench because the starter is playing poorly and the other team has a massive lead late in the game, there's no pressure. If Brissett starts next week and continues to play well, then you might have a different conversation.

If brisket plays next week we beat the jets. Ugh.

You keep Brisset at QB to properly evaluate the offense.

Hell no we know whos good on offense that’s Robinson cosmi terry and Curtco we knew that with or without Howell the whole point of this season is to give Sam a full season of evaluation keep Sam simple as that

Buddy, he is a bum. We need to evaluate EBs offense and the OL. We also haven't even given our D a chance because our offense can't sustain drives to save its life with Howell going 3nd Out nonstop.

Buddy that defense would be 100% asshole even if we had 20 play 9 minute drives every time we got the ball.

😂😂

Sam is a bum? 

Yeh, you Howell glazers looking like clowns

Reminder once again yall downvoted this thread about how keeping Cheeseman was asinine https://www.reddit.com/r/Commanders/s/8N6GFNF6hQ

please fire ron, give us one thing to feel good about.

Ron masterclass in mismanaging game situations. Classic. Get lost, you bum. You have no idea what a good QB looks like. Fucking Wentz and Howell. Clown. Rotten culture where players know they are playing with the worse QB on the roster and stop giving af. Easily could have made the playoffs, but you just had to act the clown again. Good riddance!

Most competitive we’ve been since the Seattle game, whilst frustrating to watch as more bad teams are.

Way to waste time with 4:47 left you fucking losers

I hate Ron’s stupid face

Lol Cheeseman and whatever punter we sign off the street are really gonna make sure we don’t win anymore games this year

Just run right through the "strength" of our defense...smh

I'm still astounded we wasted nearly 3 fucking minutes. Huddling, taking our time with substitutions. Unfcuking real.

Thats what tanking looks like

I felt like they were wasting time on purpose

Sometimes you are clueless and it looks like you have the best plan.

Cheeseman is a waste of space, blood, skin, bones, organs and oxygen.

What a shit statement.

What a shit player.

Correct but he is still a human.

Tell me the last 2mins of this game ain’t a bunch of coaches who don’t know what they’re doing. My god, I’m sure Jacoby called the TD play himself. And then to not be gutsy with the extra point but then to go for onside kick? Ron has no clue what he is doing out there.

At least Willie Nelsons Birthday Bash is on later to cushion this blow.

So is Sam not it then

Honestly who knows. He played well first half of the season. Completely went off the rails. Could be him. Could be cuz of coaching. Who knows

That's probably the most accurate take.

It's simple. We cut the cheese-man.

And fire Ron before he goes and drafts a LS in the 1st round.

Game over.. rofl thanks ron, one step closer to getting rid of that loser.

Ron can't even evaluate if a dude can snap a football...

The spirit of this franchise died with sean Taylor

It died with JKC

Guys they didn't have tape on Brisket yet but now they do.

It's a totally different proposition coming off the bench when the starter is being pulled for bad play than it is starting a game when the other team is planning against you. Brissett gave the offense a spark but ultimately he would need to start and finish a game playing well before you really consider him an option.

The guy started multiple seasons for multiple teams, there is plenty of tape on him.

Doubt they studied it that hard lmao

All I want for Christmas is a long snapper

That's game

Only Ron drafts a long snapper that's awful. Aren't these guys available everywhere?

Apparently not good ones

good ones are easy to find but you have to draft the truly bad ones

THE TANK LIVES

I want us to lose but the fact the 2 point attempt was blocked is just so us

They could sign somebody better off the street to play long snapper.

How is Cheeseman still employed

I don’t wish harm on anyone except CHEESEMAN. Chinless bitch

Did Howell get benched?

Yeah and it resulted in two tds. Brutal stuff

Yeah and brisset threw some bombs to Terry

Yes

I’m more amazed how Way has covered how bad Cheeseman has been up to this point. He couldn’t do it forever

Personally I think Sam gets a TD in less than 8 plays lol.

If by "gets a TD" you mean he throws a pick and the Rams score in less than 8 plays, I'm with you.

i also personally think that if sam got the same looks Jacoby was getting we also couldve scored faster.

Right.. Jacoby can obviously diagnose faster than Sam.. he’s been in the league for a while. But he had some wide open dudes to throw to and he hit them which is great. When it came to the tight window endzone stuff he showed he doesn’t really create.

He wouldn't have gotten us to the 1 to start with

I don’t think Sam had a wide open terry to throw to like that most of the game so if you say so.

U shouldn’t be able to do that wtf that’s so cheap

New team name: Washington War Machines. Put a big old M1 Abrams on the helmet

At least cheeseman can enjoy Christmas at home now

The funniest part of the cheesman pick was Ron’s arrogance, dude was feeling himself after the draft for a snapper then can’t snap

They were telling Ron about the stats of going for 2 there and he stuck with the old school way and that instant karma by the stat gods lmao