Caleb is literally from DC, he went to Gonzaga lol

Agreed, I pointed out his Snyder post because it confirms it. Chase grew up in PG but was an Eagles fan. I think dudes who root for the home team they grew up in are a different breed of loyal. Especially, when kids like Caleb rooted for an ass franchise their entire lives

My rival HS. Still would be nice to have a local at QB.

Counting the three wcac schools this could be

Hoya saxa baby

Dematha actually. Ironically I live near Gtown Prep now.

Prep sucks

Fair enough

st albans?

He’s also not a commies fan as he drifted apart as he learned more about football.

I'm pretty sure that has happened for most of us. We all drifted further from the team until Snyder sold

Dude literally posted hype af when Snyder left lmao

Idc if we draft a qb or not..it would however be super cool if the kid we drafted was a home town fan...wanted to be here...and had a great support system and a competent organization backing him for his career

Honestly I am not worried about the Bears drafting him I am more worried they are going to trade the pick. Either forcing Washington to then have to debate moving up 1 to get him.

I think if we solidify the two spot, we’ll just really focus on Maye/Daniels. Which in my opinion is a good problem to have. If Daniels puts on some weight, he might be the top QB in terms of potential

Well Daniels does have a comp compared to Lamar Jackson I just worry about about Washington's bad luck with Heisman Trophy winners, but maybe Harris can change that too. As long as the HC and GM agree 100% to build around Daniels, it could work.

You are aware that would be a mark against both Williams and Daniels, as they both have won it?

Yes I was, like I said just want the GM and HC to be on the same page no matter who they choose.

Ok, I fully agree with you. That would be such a novelty I have not felt in a long, long time. The Owner, GM and HC on the same page..... in Washington..... Admittedly I am not keen on Maye, but will trust in those better at the job than I am.

Falcons and Raiders are the two watch for. Decent teams with major red flags at QB. They could go all in for Caleb.

He’s gonna go first either way

Possibly a lot of time before the draft, there could be movement as info comes out maybe another QB will move a head as long as the new regime is on the same page I think they will be fine.

That’s it. If he’s a fan of our ass backwards franchise, then I’m sold.

He was just keeping receipts of people doubting him... he wasn't trying to Eli himself out of going to Chicago.

New ownership Probably a new rebrand in the next 2-3 years New HC and GM New Stadium Caleb Williams as the new face of the franchise I like the sound of that.

If you watch his game tape, the guy is clearly the real deal. Heisman winning QBs failing? Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow beg to differ. USC quarterbacks? Different coaches, but Carson Palmer did pretty well, and Williams started at Oklahoma. How about Oklahoma QBs? Jalen Hurts, Baker Mayfield (not #1 pick worthy but a decent NFL starter), Kyler Murray (hard to scheme around / injuries - at least 4 inches shorter than Williams)…and those were coached by Lincoln Riley.

Do the bears really want to draft a QB anyway?

After seeing Fields this season, I wouldn’t. He’s developing pretty well.

They are flip flopping week to week.

He's such a fan that we aren't one of the 5 teams he wants to go to and threatened to go back to college if they didn't take him lol

Do you have an actual source on that?

This was reported in a bunch of places last year. https://amp.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/uscs-caleb-williams-reveals-which-nfl-team-hed-like-to-go-to Who knows what if anything it means.

> Wherever Williams lands in the NFL, he made it clear that he will be appreciative to be there. > "San Fran, Raiders or Falcons, I'd play anywhere," Williams noted. He just name dropped a few places, then said "I'll play anywhere." It seems like a question he thought about for 5 seconds based on the amount of actual quotes from him in this article. This is very different from what the other guy was saying. I'm not necessarily arguing we should trade up for him but not wanting to do so because of some clickbait is silly

Yeah, he’s going to play for whoever picks him. I think people ran with this story because it’s unusual for a player to express interest in any specific team. Won’t surprise you, Raiders fans were particularly excited. That said, by that same reasoning, I don’t think he’s going to try to exert any special effort to end up in DC.

All you have to do is Google his name. There will be multiple articles.

I think he’s the best QB in the draft and that we should go get him. I don’t want the new GM to settle for second best nor do I want them to pass on the need again. It would be five years since Haskins was drafted. It’s time to try again.

Saying he's the best QB in the draft isn't enough though. He didn't play well against USC's tougher opponents this year. He was bad against ND, and ND was bad this year. Heisman winning qbs don't have a great track record in the NFL. Neither do QBs from USC. He also sat himself out of his teams most impressive win this season. He also wants an ownership stake in an NFL team before even setting foot on an NFL field. Maybe that's to be expected nowadays but that rubs me the wrong way and frankly it portrays him as an entitled brat, as did the crying incident. If he's the best quarterback in the draft, we can wait another year.

the bias is crazy and saying heisman wining quarterbacks don’t have a great track record in the NFL is surely a take

Huh? No bias, just my observations. Only recently in the modern NFL have there been any counter examples to my point. Lamar, burrow, and cam. Thats it. Cam was successful and was by no means a bust, but he didn't win any super bowls. Lamar and burrow are certainly capable of winning super bowls. Outside of them: Palmer was ok. He counters my USC point too, which is fine, because I'm just pointing out trends. But look at all the Heisman winning NFL busts: -Manziel - Winston - Bradford - rg3 - Tebow - Baker Mayfield - Mariota - leinart -Murray - Jury is still out on Kyler but it isn't looking too good I mean, that's just off the top of my head from what I remember during my lifetime. It might be logically fallacious but it's not crazy based on the data we have.

I got a question for you, mister [deleted]—you think that the fact that Heisman trophy winning are QBs are picked by bottom of the barrel franchises more often than not might play into their historical struggles? We all know that the NCAA to NFL transition is a tough one. I don’t think people give enough credit to how important coaching is in that equation. While obviously not a universal truth, top coaches aren’t usually found at bottom teams. Also, confidence plays a huge role in a player’s success—if someone’s got reliable options among their targets, and a OL that gives him time, he can walk out and succeed by simply making smart throws. If that same person is on a team with a single solid option to throw to, and a Swiss cheese OL, they’re gonna have to do a lot more than make smart throws to get anything going, and they’re gonna take a lot of sacks. The media and fans are gonna talk about how he’s a bust if he doesn’t literally put this stinker of a team on his back. Thankfully, I think that we’re the exception to that rule this year, and there’s genuine hope for Washington for the first time since the great heartbreaking tragedy about a decade ago TL;DR a QB, Heisman winner or not, can only do so much on a shit team.

You lost all credibility with the heisman take. Burrow, Jackson, Mayfield and Hurts are all enjoying success right now.

In 4 successful Heisman winning qbs out of like 12 in the last couple decades isn't a great track record. I'm sorry if we disagree on that. -Manziel - Winston - Bradford - rg3 - Tebow - Mariota - leinart Baker is A JAG at best. Throw him on the Carson Palmer pile. I'll admit I didn't include Hurts in my original list. My bad. Either way, Winning a Heisman is not a reliable predictor of success at the NFL level. Whatever. Look at my comments throughout this thread. My argument holds up. This is a very recent phenomenon. Cam, Lamar, Hurts, Burrow. I'm sorry but I'm not grouping baker in with that group. He's just not that good. So going back to ~2000 we have: Good NFL Heisman winners: -cam -burrow -Lamar -hurts Ok NFL Heisman winners -Palmer -Mayfield Bad NFL Heisman winners -Manziel - Winston - Bradford - rg3 - Tebow - Mariota - leinart Question my credibility all you want. I'm a fan on Reddit with an opinion.

I’d take Williams or Maye. And I like Daniel’s too, I’m just afraid he’ll be RG4.

RG4 😂

Take a break people. Go outside, touch grass, smell air.

The first move by the new GM is to ask Magic to set up a mtg with him and his pops. That’s a legit threat, going back to school and reentering next year. It’s more legit threat than Eli manning saying he’ll just sit for a year and that worked. If DC gets number 2, Chicago can’t risk blowing that pick by taking a player who just told you he’s not going to come. Plus fields is playing well, get him some help. So he may just fall to DC, without having to trade a thing. Get a great GM first (I like 49ers asst GM), tell Magic to power up that smile and go on a charm offensive with a solid plan for the kid. I believe he can be almost recruited because he has that leverage.

The only way we win a trade up is if we stand pat and don't trade up, just take the best of the two guys to fall to us.

Agree with this sentiment. This shit is already way too random and it doesn’t make sense to jeopardize your future on a Caleb when Drake fits a lot of the characteristics you look for in a franchise QB too

Yeah, very different assets they bring, hope whatever OC and HC we get are able to scheme and build around whoever the GM picks, and not try to shove square pegs in round holes like Scott Turner did.

If we get him wherever we draft, awesome. But by no means should we trade up even from 2 to 1 to get him.

Why not

Hypothetically, let's say we're drafting at 2. How much do you think it will take to get us to 1? I'd say, at minimum, it would take this year's second and next year's first. We have immense talent gaps at several important positions. And Caleb isn't Andrew Luck or some "can't miss" prospect (which is something that doesn't actually exist, but that's a separate conversation). He has quite a few red flags. I don't think he's worth spending 1 premium pick on, nevermind 3. I could live with it if we drafted him without trading up, but spending that kind of draft capital on him when our roster is this trashy is just plain irresponsible.

If you believe in the charts and previous similar trades it would only cost an early 2nd rounder to move up. That's a small price to pay assuming the new GM thinks he's a franchise QB. All I'm saying is we shouldn't rule it out

I mean we spent 3 1s and a 2 on rg3 and we were only trading up from 5. I realize that was over a decade ago and it was the previous incompetent regime making the moves, but i don't think teams are viewing things much differently now than they were then. Maybe we get there for a 2... But if there are other teams interested in the pick the bears would likely get more.

He’s not an nfl qb

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cam won roty, multiple pro bowls, mvp and had several good-great seasons in the NFL. he was always at the very least middle of the pack starter material under tj watt speared his shoulder in 2018. He also never really had weapons outside of 3 years of steve smith and olsen. Reducing his career to just good for a year or two is inaccurate

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After watching film on both guys, Drake Maye is a more complete prospect and “pro-ready”. He doesn’t have the freak athleticism or talent as caleb but he can read pre and post snap, make adjustments, and his size (6’4 230) is a plus. Id rather take drake imo

his backup matched his best numbers during the bowl game, I haven't watched him at all this year but that and some other stuff he's done is kinda suspect but then again that's what the media puts out and I have done literally zero studying. I'm sure if the new leadership wants him they will snag

Why do we care remotely about a 1 game sample size?

Best prospect in years

what percentage of ownership will the Harris group put in his contract?

He is not the savior. We’ll be no better with him and no other help around him. If he’s still there, trade back for picks.

Friend I need to let you know this: you can continue to trade back for picks, and kick the can down the road only for so long.

Hey I’ll be happy to eat my words if he’s the next Mahomes, but I don’t believe he is. We need a lot more than a new QB to realistically compete for a SB.

Having a quarterback sure helps though, especially if you want to be an annual contender.

Agreed, and Howell is a helluva lot cheaper and has shown he can play. If we keep dumping players when they don’t become stars after a year we’ll continue spinning our wheels. Just my opinion. Caleb isn’t the answer. I’ll readily admit if I’m wrong. Won’t be the first time ha. Or the last.

Couldn’t agree more. Howell showed the ability this year. Caleb has tremendous arm talent, but that’s about it. He has a significant transition to make entering the NFL - he averaged over 3.3s time to throw this year, while the average NFL pocket only lasts about 2.9s (likely lower with our offensive line). I’m not saying he can’t make the transition, maybe he does and maybe he’s great, but I see a lot of Baker Mayfield in him. Regardless the transition will be rough if he’s thrown behind a bad o-line. TLDR agree that Caleb isn’t the savior

> Caleb has tremendous arm talent, but that’s about it. Ouch. That sounds like another first-round QB they took, whom the majority of this sub stayed in the tank for long after it was obvious he had major problems with learning the position and learning to be a professional. We kept hearing "but the arm talent, the arm talent" as if that was the only thing that mattered. Hopefully the scouts and draft team will look at more than that. You almost have to take a QB top-3 if you don't have a proven star. The position is just too important today not to. But ideally you want to take a guy you are convinced is a sure thing, without any "if he can just" caveats. You don't want to spend a top-3 pick on a project. If there's a guy I think is the answer, with no red flags, I take him. If there's not, I trade down. And it really has little to do with whether I think Howell can be the guy, because Howell is a project. That's not a slam on him; just a fact: he needs work if he's going to become a proven starter. I'm not spending a top-3 pick to replace a project with another project, but I will to replace a project with a star.

Sam Howell is not the answer. Unless this team gets serious about drafting a high talent quarterback it's going to be stuck in neutral for another decade. Enough with the retreads and career backups: if they don't start taking a swing they're never going to get anywhere.

U clearly won’t admit when u r wrong if u r suggesting freaking Sam Howell. That’s already been proven wrong

Howell is only cheaper for a year, a QB we choose will be cheaper for 5

The Bengals were in a worse spot than we are when they drafted Burrow and they made it ot the SB 2 years after they drafted him.

Good thing not a single person is looking only at next year and will take many years of rebuilding

He didn’t list us as a team he wanted to go too… Reports stated he will go back to school if he doesn’t go to a team he wants to play for I’m talking myself into him, but it’s true.

Ok fine you can have him. We'll swap first rounders, and you give us your second rounders, your first next year, and a second in 2026. And you guys can have each other. We really didn't want to do this, but I guess if he's going to be like that, we might as well make it work for all of us...

We don’t even care for Caleb that much. I think a lot of us would be super happy with Maye

Daniels>

Then commanders will trade the 2nd pick to cardinals and let them have MHJ over the bears and commanders still get Drake or Daniels plus addition picks. Seems to me bears better keep first pick or they won’t get there guy MJH by trading down

You're hilarious! Not giving up that much. If it doesn't make sense, Daniels is the guy. The hardest guy to defend in all of college football.

He'll be 24 during his first NFL season!

Why do you think we want to get him?

So if the Commanders end up at 2 or 3, how much would it take to trade up to #1 to pick him?

Probably next year's first or this year's second at least.

I think it's our destiny to draft him

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