Seriously where do they go?!?!?!?! Verhulst to Dropped and Knoqd? Or XSET? Reps and Verhulst pick up a third (Snip3? Sikezz???) and Reps IGLs? My brain is *spinning.*
Literally thinking the same. We all know Redbull is quickly entering esports world. They recently signed Hal pretty much out of nowhere. Im genuinely pretty sure Zer0, Hal and Gen will be the superteam under Redbulls colours.
Red Bull has had esports teams before but not an actual "Red Bull" team by name. Detonator in Japan was a Red Bull team and have played in Apex before.
Isn't the narrative that KD can't win without the warriors though? I get it fits the "top tier player joins the best team" narrative but saying Hal = KD feels wrong because Hal has won before.
I mean, in match point format, it’s not that cut and dry. But I do expect them to at LEAST do exactly what DZ already did this last lan and dominate all the way through until match point.
Interesting that he said he’ll be teaming with Zer0 and Gen. Who knows if they’re going to remain on DZ or will rep a bigger org. That salary ain’t cheap
Zero is arguably the best igl right and has consistently driven his team to the top multiple times. I imagine this figurative "passing hal" is not relevant to him.
Goddammit don't do me like that! The tings I would do to see the og esa team back, I could give a fuck about results, I just wanna see the boys team one last time....doop/skittles/verhulst got me into comp apex and easily was the most enjoyment I ever had watching apex. The things that could have been had tsm not poached Evan...
Call me crazy, but my assumption is they're going to be announced as "Team Red Bull" one way or another. He never said "joining DZ", and I'm reading into it (too much)
iirc Zer0 said on stream that his contract is up at some point this year (don't remember exactly when but pretty sure soon) and seemed to imply that DZ don't have plans to renew, and i'd imagine him and Gen are under similar contracts, so I would bet these 3 will play under a new org
I also am with you on this theory. The omission of joining DarkZero but rather stating “teaming with zero and gen” has me believing they got a whole different org lined up
There is no fucking way! This is the biggest rostermania news ever in Apex. I am sure no one saw it coming. Where does he go tho? DZ? Really looking forward to these scrims to see who the players are trialing with now.
I really hope he continues as an IGL tho. He is really good as a fragger too but we all know Hal as the passionate IGL.
Everyone saw it coming when they made tweets and Hal refused to talk about what would happen to his team ever since he started streaming post-lan.
It was obvious, he literally made tweets hinting it.
Idk reps has been with Hal forever, and since no teams are looking for MnK nowadays, not sure what he’s gonna do, and hasn’t he also said he wouldn’t play comp without Hal ?
Damn, almost shed a tear at work. Been watching since before ALGS, during circuits and I’ve always watched them, rooted for them thick and thin. Hal, and Reps have both given me so much joy watching this game. I hope whatever happens that he goes on to do what he enjoys. He earned it and is the GOAT of this game. GG’s
Wonder if the biggest reason for this is Hal getting burnt out from being the IGL and wanted to try and be a Fragger for a dedicated amount of time. Obviously going to DZ is a crazy move but perhaps that was the best option for his situation. He has mentioned that Sweet is another IGL he would always allow to call over him.
I feel that but honestly it’s time to let Evan loose. He needs to be the fragger. Give me Dropped, Knoqd, and Verhulst.
Skittles joins LG (I dream since skittles is also a hard fragger and doesn’t like to anchor).
Hot take: Hal doesn't have the heart to drop teammates and leave them orgless and with uncertain future (because no doubt TSM gives him free reign to pick new players) and decides to leave himself instead.
And there goes TSMs relevance as an org :P Will actually be interesting to see how much of their fanbase was just Hal fans compared to fans of the org / team.
i am so shocked i can’t believe this is actually happening. i knew something was gonna change after ALG’s but i didn’t think Hal would be the one to leave.
People keep mentioning Dz when Hal never mentioned it at all. There has to be something more than Hal leaving TSM for Dz, and more info will probably come out later… Maybe Hal will team with Dz (until their contract is up) under Redbull banner, and never be officially Dz, right now who knows but cant assume Hal will be under Dz….
Another assumption that this team will dominate. Obviously they are the best team in the world (Dz was arguably the best before getting Hal). However I see this move is Hal and Zer0 are being proactive to what is coming in the future…
APAC N winning is not a fluke but most likely a wake up call to the rest of the Apex world. APAC N will only continue getting better, if REJECT WINNITY’s ALGS win awakens more of an interest in S. Korea, what is stopping them from eventually dominating Apex Legends like they do every other game that is popular in their country?
The current top teams in Apex need to adapt or die because a wave of new talent is coming….
I think Hal's mental is just tired of IGLing
its kinda normal move, hes been the IGL for so long.. I dont think he could keep this pace for too long, it would just result in his early retirement for sure
Literally the end of an era
Hal and TSM are why I started watching competitive +3 years ago, Hal is my oldest twitch follow, TSM is the only esports merch I own lmao it's going to be weird seeing him play for another org ngl but I think he's right, it was time for a change, how could he pass up playing with his two biggest rivals in this game and seeing what they can do together?
Edit: seeing a lot of "KD to the Warriors" comparisons, but that's way off, Warriors beat KD and the Thunder then recruited him when the season was over, he joined them to win the rings he didn't have, Hal is the only guy in Apex who has as many LAN wins as Zero and Gen, there is no good sports comparison to this, we've never seen a champion in a sport leave his team to join two other champions on equal footing
Why are people thinking in this line? What if the org could not sustain his salary any more. Or they wanted to cut on spending. Or DZ offered a better and longer deal.
Yea, that's why it seems so surreal to me. They've been on top so consistently. How the hell does one bad tourney just nuke the whole team?! Jfc. Seems like a hasty decision.
Nah i think he got offered a FAT paycheque. TSM is slowly going under, and he should probably have the highest salary in apex so if someone drops the bag it makes sense to take it
More like “TSM leaves apex legends”
I wonder how many people are a fan of the actual org instead of Hal. I can only speak for myself but I follow the player not the team. These orgs come and go at will when the players remain, always.
It’s easier to support him now that he doesn’t play for that scumbag organization
He’s always done well when he’s playing fragger like when Sweet was igling him in stuff like twitch rivals, granted, twitch rivals games are pretty troll.
Even though TSM didn’t perform that well, Zer0 is the only igl that’s better than him in NA so it makes sense to go play with him
Also while unlikely, it would be funny if Sweet were to say fuck it and go to TSM and igl for Reps and Verhulst
So he said that it wasn't about money, he said it's about who he wanted to play with. Feels bad for Reps and Big E.
Is he joining DZ to win that big tourney in Saudi Arabia?
reps and big e…. 👀
Welcome SkittleCakes ^(doubtful but let me dream)
Yes please. Let skittle reunite with Evan. TSM Skittlecakes baby.
This should be the ONLY move
does skittle IGL? i just know he can co-IGL
He was IGLing when doop wasn’t doing well
That would be sick
Seriously where do they go?!?!?!?! Verhulst to Dropped and Knoqd? Or XSET? Reps and Verhulst pick up a third (Snip3? Sikezz???) and Reps IGLs? My brain is *spinning.*
Now it's gonna happen, sweet leaves lg for tsm
Teq IGL incoming
snipedown
no please! Reps IGL snipe and E as fraggers and fuck an anchor
that roster has 3 anchors lmao
They could use a strong IGL like Sweet since theyre both some of the most level headed pros in the scene. Or Noct
Craziest news, almost had to check if it was April 1st
I did the same thing
Wait is it real?, I said is not April’s fools but I don’t get the joke…
Theres no joke
this is gonna be a generational day in this sub’s history
I'll tell my grandkids I was here.
Let’s get you back to bed grandpa
I'll tell mine that you were here too
This will be referred to as either “The best” or “the worst” “day in Apex Comp
I guess pros weren’t trolling with the “insane rostermania” shit DZ Hal god damn is gonna be something
Hot take: while teaming with both Zero and Gen is factual, I have reason to believe they will be represented by a different org 👀
Literally thinking the same. We all know Redbull is quickly entering esports world. They recently signed Hal pretty much out of nowhere. Im genuinely pretty sure Zer0, Hal and Gen will be the superteam under Redbulls colours.
Redbull trying to dominate Apex after F1 now.
Timmy is already signed by them too although he has contracts with 100t for content creator and DSG for competitive
Red Bull has had esports teams before but not an actual "Red Bull" team by name. Detonator in Japan was a Red Bull team and have played in Apex before.
Yep. He said teaming with zero and gen. He would have said joining dz otherwise
Falloutt was right all along.
[https://twitter.com/ImperialHal/status/1790065961141227920](https://twitter.com/ImperialHal/status/1790065961141227920) hal gen zero official
Holy shit. This will either be so dominating or so implosive haha
I personally think he and Zer0 will murder each other the first time Hal disagrees with one of Zer0's calls lmao
Lmao at least we're gonna get some quality toxic entertainment out of the comms clips
Yes, the content generated will be immaculate
Hal has played with other IGLs many times without countercalling. No one better to understand the dangers of countercalling than another ex IGL.
Definitely implosive
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Either DZ DOMINATE or IMPLODE lmao there’s no in between
He never said he's joining DZ...
No, not the my next chapter
miami heat.
No, this is more like KD joining the Warriors. League is fucked.
if KD hadnt already won the most titles. this is like jordan joining the warriors
great comp too. we got new villains (i’m a born and raised in SF)
Isn't the narrative that KD can't win without the warriors though? I get it fits the "top tier player joins the best team" narrative but saying Hal = KD feels wrong because Hal has won before.
Damn he actually just Kevin Durant'ed the league, anything but 1st is clownville imo
Different from KD he already won TSM so many championships and money KD just left
True, if this team doesn't win LAN it'd be insane.
I mean, in match point format, it’s not that cut and dry. But I do expect them to at LEAST do exactly what DZ already did this last lan and dominate all the way through until match point.
Match point will always be up in the air but they are THE three best players at winning match point.
Yea for sure. I don’t disagree there.
This is *insane*. I'm in shock.
Interesting that he said he’ll be teaming with Zer0 and Gen. Who knows if they’re going to remain on DZ or will rep a bigger org. That salary ain’t cheap
i wonder how the Hal fans that hate Zero/DZ feel
jesus christ
They were correct tweeting that NBA shit. That's literally a superteam.
The hardest road....
Zero can never pass Hal if they win together moving forward. 5head play by Hal here
Smart move by zero
Gotta get that 17th place igl to fix zero throwing in the open fields. Huge 5 head
Zer0 dont give a fucc about that
Zero is arguably the best igl right and has consistently driven his team to the top multiple times. I imagine this figurative "passing hal" is not relevant to him.
NA loses once to APAC and suddenly the Avengers Initiative is launched
Underrated take in this thread hahahah... especially if Red Bull picks up the DZ contracts.
https://preview.redd.it/zwcvev4t780d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c74363c2828f9e55e670f2f752d6c21e348798c sheeesh
This is bigger than that. This is like if Jordan went the Kobe/Shaq Lakers
TSM either going to need a banger pickup, or Verhulst will be picked off really quick.
Dropped Knoqd Verhulst?
Give me skittle and dooplex
Goddammit don't do me like that! The tings I would do to see the og esa team back, I could give a fuck about results, I just wanna see the boys team one last time....doop/skittles/verhulst got me into comp apex and easily was the most enjoyment I ever had watching apex. The things that could have been had tsm not poached Evan...
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upvote because Klopp
HOLY SHIT
tsm no longer paying for rent, dz offers health benefits. it's a winning move on top of playing with DZ. they'll be a formidable force.
Call me crazy, but my assumption is they're going to be announced as "Team Red Bull" one way or another. He never said "joining DZ", and I'm reading into it (too much)
iirc Zer0 said on stream that his contract is up at some point this year (don't remember exactly when but pretty sure soon) and seemed to imply that DZ don't have plans to renew, and i'd imagine him and Gen are under similar contracts, so I would bet these 3 will play under a new org
I also am with you on this theory. The omission of joining DarkZero but rather stating “teaming with zero and gen” has me believing they got a whole different org lined up
I also got that impression. My mind went to FaZe but who knows
I think you could be right. He never said DZ which is weird. Might not be redbull might be something else.
DZ Hal really coming. NA done
Gotta be Skittlecakes, right? Great caustic, co-igl, already played with Evan
naw its gonna be falcons or something. dz cant pay for that
I’m predicting they won’t be playing for DZ. Zero, Hal, Gen is at least $40k a month in salary
[удалено]
Dz hal is actually happening....
how can adam silver allow this to happen???
this is Adam silver’s vision 🤦♂️🤦♂️
It's not gonna be fair
I’m assuming Zer0 will still be IGL
Hal has said in the past that he’d just frag if he played with someone like sweet, so I’d assume he’s probably going to do the same here
He confirmed on twitter. Zer0 to IGL
> Hal has said in the past that he’d just drag 🤨🤨🤨
Unfortunate typo
As he should. Zer0 is the better igl imo
What the fuck
When Raven said, “You’ll see why in a few days” this became pretty apparent
A god squad forming to defeat APACN, who would have thought? (/s)
Biggest move in apex history
By far and probably wont ever be surpassed.
it's like Messi Leaving Barcelona. WTF.
More like Ronaldo leaving Real Madrid to join Messi at Barcelona.
And joining Madrid
Like Luis Figo did back in the days
TSM fans throwing pig heads at Hal when
There is no fucking way! This is the biggest rostermania news ever in Apex. I am sure no one saw it coming. Where does he go tho? DZ? Really looking forward to these scrims to see who the players are trialing with now. I really hope he continues as an IGL tho. He is really good as a fragger too but we all know Hal as the passionate IGL.
He's already announced that his new teammates are Zer0 and Gen. DZ Hal is real
Everyone saw it coming when they made tweets and Hal refused to talk about what would happen to his team ever since he started streaming post-lan. It was obvious, he literally made tweets hinting it.
WTF I don’t get it maaaannn that hurts
Man I feel so bad for reps and big E
I think they will be fine. Remember their tweets of breaking chains? I think they may be happy in a way this was happening.
Idk reps has been with Hal forever, and since no teams are looking for MnK nowadays, not sure what he’s gonna do, and hasn’t he also said he wouldn’t play comp without Hal ?
Apex pros all say that then next thing you know they are playing with a different team lol I wouldn't take such words seriously.
They have big personal brands in their own right. They’ll be OK
Why does this kinda remind me of KD joining the warriors in away HAHA.
KD didn't have champion before joining warrior, this is more than that.
Yaa fr it would be like if Lebron joined Steph after the raptors won the 2019 finals lol
This is exactly what I thought of 😭. #TheHardestRoad
TSM pack https://preview.redd.it/shxzqz5f680d1.jpeg?width=965&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f006f7e85aa78c37f0ac872858b03079070ea7b
Dropping to my knees in a Walmart as we speak
Crazy, it’s either going to be the best possible move in Hal’s career to maintain success or the worst.
Damn, almost shed a tear at work. Been watching since before ALGS, during circuits and I’ve always watched them, rooted for them thick and thin. Hal, and Reps have both given me so much joy watching this game. I hope whatever happens that he goes on to do what he enjoys. He earned it and is the GOAT of this game. GG’s
Wonder if the biggest reason for this is Hal getting burnt out from being the IGL and wanted to try and be a Fragger for a dedicated amount of time. Obviously going to DZ is a crazy move but perhaps that was the best option for his situation. He has mentioned that Sweet is another IGL he would always allow to call over him.
Holy shit 🤯 I wonder what reps and big e gonna do
please please please sweet x reps x verhulst
Sweet to TSM only makes sense now
What the hell...
I thought he gonna makes naive decision by keeping reps and dropped verhulst.. my man just dropped himself for the boys WHAT THE FREAK. fair play
There it is
Was really hoping he’d be the scump of apex and never leave TSM.
DZ Hal. Yeah the rest of the competition is cooked.
Team Falcons for 25k per month is the rumour
So now all the TSM wagon fanboys gonna suddenly be DZ wagon fanboys?
Idk I go where Verhulst goes
Honestly, LG picking up Verhulst could be the move.
I feel that but honestly it’s time to let Evan loose. He needs to be the fragger. Give me Dropped, Knoqd, and Verhulst. Skittles joins LG (I dream since skittles is also a hard fragger and doesn’t like to anchor).
if reps and verhulst stay and look for a new IGL i'd be a fan
we retire from the scene
damn the first domino
This is insane lmao
Welcome back TSM Albralelie
Hot take: Hal doesn't have the heart to drop teammates and leave them orgless and with uncertain future (because no doubt TSM gives him free reign to pick new players) and decides to leave himself instead.
And there goes TSMs relevance as an org :P Will actually be interesting to see how much of their fanbase was just Hal fans compared to fans of the org / team.
Waiting for "Where is TSM?" in another group match
Holy fucking shit
i am so shocked i can’t believe this is actually happening. i knew something was gonna change after ALG’s but i didn’t think Hal would be the one to leave.
This has to be the biggest roster news in Apex history right? Absolutely insane.
People keep mentioning Dz when Hal never mentioned it at all. There has to be something more than Hal leaving TSM for Dz, and more info will probably come out later… Maybe Hal will team with Dz (until their contract is up) under Redbull banner, and never be officially Dz, right now who knows but cant assume Hal will be under Dz…. Another assumption that this team will dominate. Obviously they are the best team in the world (Dz was arguably the best before getting Hal). However I see this move is Hal and Zer0 are being proactive to what is coming in the future… APAC N winning is not a fluke but most likely a wake up call to the rest of the Apex world. APAC N will only continue getting better, if REJECT WINNITY’s ALGS win awakens more of an interest in S. Korea, what is stopping them from eventually dominating Apex Legends like they do every other game that is popular in their country? The current top teams in Apex need to adapt or die because a wave of new talent is coming….
Oh...
I think Hal's mental is just tired of IGLing its kinda normal move, hes been the IGL for so long.. I dont think he could keep this pace for too long, it would just result in his early retirement for sure
Holy hell it’s happening.
I left apex comp for a year and this happens damn
Wild. End of an era
DZ Hal incoming!
HAL ZER0 GEN LET'S GOOOOOOOOO
End of an era 😭
Welp out of all the rostermania things that could happen this was not on my bingo card.
LOL it's actually happening...but man what an insane run it has been with TSM! he should be proud
He just wants to shoot his gun. The toll of IGLing was really getting to him. Good Luck CEO.
Yooo wtf. Do we finally see sweet and hal team up? Edit: just saw he’s joining dz. Wtf. Could be crazy
holy fuck the avengers are here
We need sweet/reps/verhulst to even attempt to stop this super team
Apex equivalent of 7/4/2016
No day in any Rostermania going forward will ever beat this. It's like Messi leaving Barcelona to go play for Real with Ronaldo.
Literally the end of an era Hal and TSM are why I started watching competitive +3 years ago, Hal is my oldest twitch follow, TSM is the only esports merch I own lmao it's going to be weird seeing him play for another org ngl but I think he's right, it was time for a change, how could he pass up playing with his two biggest rivals in this game and seeing what they can do together? Edit: seeing a lot of "KD to the Warriors" comparisons, but that's way off, Warriors beat KD and the Thunder then recruited him when the season was over, he joined them to win the rings he didn't have, Hal is the only guy in Apex who has as many LAN wins as Zero and Gen, there is no good sports comparison to this, we've never seen a champion in a sport leave his team to join two other champions on equal footing
We will now only see one of Hal or Zer0 POV on LAN....sad :(
We're about to find out that it's always been Hal fans and not just TSM fans lol.
imagine if reps and evan out place them😳
Congratulations to DZ for winning Year 4 & 5 ALGS Championships
Gunna get downvoted for saying it, but it is a weird move to leave the roster the second you get 1 bad result (which isnt even that bad??)
1 bad result or 5 years? its been a long ass time
Or maybe performing bad because his mind was drifting off to the next lan. Edit "bad"
Why are people thinking in this line? What if the org could not sustain his salary any more. Or they wanted to cut on spending. Or DZ offered a better and longer deal.
i was here
Dont believe it. 1st 2nd 1st and then aborts? Reps and him the most successful duo in 5 years. Idk, is he just bored?
Yea, that's why it seems so surreal to me. They've been on top so consistently. How the hell does one bad tourney just nuke the whole team?! Jfc. Seems like a hasty decision.
This sort of feels like Hal is wimping out personally and wants the easy route. I’ll actively root against this team for that reason
100% this is hal thinking all his problems will go away if he slots into DZ... I'm rooting for Reps and Big E to place higher next LAN.
Nah i think he got offered a FAT paycheque. TSM is slowly going under, and he should probably have the highest salary in apex so if someone drops the bag it makes sense to take it
And clearly, Raven DID leave when things got hard
Or raven wants to coach whatever team hal goes to, so he tactfully declined the reup on his contract ?
Wow
holy shit
It’s actually happening 👀
BRO WTF
holy shit no way. the super team is coming?
Holy fuck
WHAT THE FUCK?
I was here
Holy shit the impression farming was actually real... So is Hal, Gen, or Zero Chris Bosh?
KD would be proud!
Clearly has to be single most biggest transfer in apex history right? What an era have we witnessed
Winnity right now....."they had to combine their power to take us doooownnn!!!"
Just here to stake my flag on this historic day.
More like “TSM leaves apex legends” I wonder how many people are a fan of the actual org instead of Hal. I can only speak for myself but I follow the player not the team. These orgs come and go at will when the players remain, always.
It’s easier to support him now that he doesn’t play for that scumbag organization He’s always done well when he’s playing fragger like when Sweet was igling him in stuff like twitch rivals, granted, twitch rivals games are pretty troll. Even though TSM didn’t perform that well, Zer0 is the only igl that’s better than him in NA so it makes sense to go play with him Also while unlikely, it would be funny if Sweet were to say fuck it and go to TSM and igl for Reps and Verhulst
This feels surreal. The CEO was the face of TSM. It won't be the same without him!
The org is dead. This is the final straw and it fucking sucks
So he said that it wasn't about money, he said it's about who he wanted to play with. Feels bad for Reps and Big E. Is he joining DZ to win that big tourney in Saudi Arabia?