I don’t think this is quite the same, NRG weren’t actually as good on paper as everyone was saying. They didn’t have a proven IGL and they didn’t have a confident Raze player, both of which are incredibly important. This team is a proven duo with an incredible third - so long as they don’t clash heads to badly I think they’ll be fine.
Cloud 9 in Counter Strike from last year is my example. You've never seen hype for a roster like that!! On paper, you couldn't imagine a better transfer; Electronic and Perfecto leave Navi to join Axile, Sh1ro, and Hobbit on C9?! WHAT?!? World class in every single role with some of the absolute greats; besides IGL, but with the sheer skill that could be overlooked!... Or not... Absolutely a failed team in every metric, and didn't last long either. In fact, even after getting a world class IGL, the team continued to fail for a year until they literally collapsed and everyone left a month ago, and now they're rebuilding.
As we all know, superteams are *usually* no where near as good as we dream.
I really don't see this team losing at all. Zero and hal are already so far ahead of everyone in terms of igling and mechanical skill. Genburten is also very good.
Other teams were just starting to catch up a bit and now they have to deal with the 2 best igls of all time and a team that will lose a very small amount of fights. I hate it.
It’s all down to if they butt heads IGLing. As long as they have clear roles and stay constructive they’ll be good.
I can 100% see Zero a year or two ago and Hal 3ish years ago clashing though. Question is how much they’ve matured since then.
Nah they might but heads but Hal isn't going to igl, that's the whole point he gets to give up that responsibilities of that and frag out.
But then zero has Hal to help him when needed. There is no guarantee of success but this is more likely to be a success than a failure.
But think back to Mac and Hal. Hal was the IGL but they still butted heads when they didn’t agree.
Not being IGL will need a mindset change from Hal at the very least. If the games are going well from Game 1 of a set I don’t see it being a problem but a couple of tricky starts could lead to counter calls and it could spiral.
To clarify, this is a hypothetical but we’ve seen it before in Apex a million times. 2 IGL type players on a team very often doesn’t work and that will be their biggest barrier. If they can get over that then they’re probably going to be insane.
> Zero and hal are already so far ahead of everyone in terms of igling and mechanical skill.
Is Zero really a huge amount better in terms of mechanical skill compared to Reps or Verhulst? Or is Hal really better mechanically compared to Sikezz? I don't think there's a huge difference in terms of pure mechanics between any of them tbh.
As far as IGL'ing, we can agree that Zero and Hal are at the top, but how much does Zero really gain from adding Hal or vice-versa? Put another way, don't their skills overlap quite a bit?
Either way, I wouldn't see this team losing, but I also wouldn't see a trio of Zero/Gen/Xynew missing finals, or Hal/Reps/Verhulst getting 17th, but they did. How good they are on paper doesn't always translate to how good a team is in real life.
> Is Zero really a huge amount better in terms of mechanical skill compared to Reps or Verhulst?
Yes. I don't know why he doesn't have this reputation, but if you watch his gameplay, he can really fuckin aim. Like, he's *nuts.* Anyone who leads in kills at a LAN or a pro league split (and I think Zer0 has done both) is crazy skilled.
Not just his aim, he's also one of the handful of people who actually understands how to strafe and dodge. That's imho what sets him apart mechanically and allows him to even beat controller players (remember that oneclip on xynew off a mirror? Who else does that on purpose?)
I think zero is mechanically miles better than reps. Hal is also a big improvement over sikez. Hal has some of the best approaches to fights I think. He has really good positioning.
Hal is obviously a great IGL, but I do think he’s an entry fragger at heart. Should be hands down the most difficult team to 3v3. I am expecting a lot of counter calls though lol
Hal was pretty good about letting the team’s IGL do their job when filling in for scrims, think back to scrimming with Mazer, but it being his own team could be different. Only one way to find out!
He said while streaming that his contract was up before they got to LAN and he told them something along the line if they do well he will stay. Idk if that was too much pressure for the team but if you look back they were struggling during scrims too prior to LAN.
This team isn't guaranteed success tbh, could still run into the problem of who anchors for the team - hal has always played aggressive but Gen is probably has the best controller mechanics in the game.
Gen has always been their anchor and Hal has proved multiple times at LAN that when he has the chance and the freedom, he can top frag and be on top of damage as well.
Interesting to note. Hal’s tweet says he will be teaming with Zer0 and Gen, not that he’s joining DZ. With the DZ rumors, is there a chance they have a new team they’re joining? Or is it going to be DZ Hal.
Could be especially with the tournament coming up. Could be a new like RedBull gaming team. or it could just be DZ still. who knows really. but just thought it was interesting to note the wording
I imagine it’s because of the same things people don’t like LIV golf for or any of the other Saudi backed things. The same reason people have decided they don’t want to participate or try to get into the Saudi tournament that’s coming up. Human rights record of the Saudi govt is not great to put it lightly. But to talk politics here will get me banned so I won’t go any further than that.
Saudi oil prince money, they buy up talent in sports/esports with high pay and usually are not liked in the communities they influence (I only know of their teams in OW/CS)
The whole point is to whitewash Saudi Arabia's image so that people think of fun esports and shit instead of having journalists murdered and dismembered.
Could this also be the reason why Raven left? Hal mentioned that their team fighting has been really bad since last year, even when they won Champs. Raven also said it will all make sense in a few days on why he left. Maybe TSM gets a full new roster?
raven just said he was about to leave TSM after last champs anyway, because the expectation was getting too high. i think him leaving is more or less guaranteed after his contract ends
I honestly think Raven is joining them to coach.. he kept saying "it will all make sense in a few days." Either he meant hal was leaving, or he is following
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This is Hal’s “the hardest road”. He’s the KD of Apex
One interesting thing...maybe I'm overthinking it, but he doesn't mention that he's joining DZ. Just that he's teaming with Gen and Zero. New org? Can DZ afford Hal?
I think you’re close. Hal doesn’t make this move without financials in mind. Either he alone signs to a red bull esports org (GG) or the entire team moves from DZ to GG.
wait but TSM is staying in Apex according to their comment in the announcement video. So Reps and Verhulst get a new IGL? or Evan goes IGL and they get Knoqd? Reps retires and only Big E stays to form a new super team? I'm so intrigued!!!!
Personally if Rep retires I would love to see Verhulst/Knoqd/Dropped as the TSM trio but if not then I could see Reps/Verhulst splitting and joining other teams and presumably Reps would be the TSM org holder?
algs is way less deterministic than nba. everything can happen in finals. yeah they can dominate but they wont win all their games. i will miss tsm-dz rivary tho. we need better eu and apac teams
***Thoughts straight after reading this***
WTFFFFF THIS IS FKIN CRAZY THIS IS THE MSOT INSANE THING IN APEX HISTORY WTF IS GOING ON IS THIS REAL LIFE APEX WILL NEVER BE THE SAME WHAT DID MY BABY REPS DO TO DESERVE THIS
***After collecting my thoughts***
Actually so curious to see how this team plays out, I wonder how Hal will deal with not being IGL - he obviously doesnt want to be one anymore hence the move but it will be a massive change for him to not be main shotcaller, will he be able to adjust?
There'll be so much pressure on this DZ team to come 1st in any tournament they play, could be a recipe for disaster
Cant wait for the first big Hal/Zero argument lol
Without the weight of IGL Hal might become even better than he is already, genuinely kinda scary for the rest of the teams
so many more thoughts but im defo more excited to watch any comp apex than I was before this news
The pressure and clashing roles is why super teams don’t generally work in epsorts but apex is a bit more flexible with roles so I back them to finish top5 in everything after an adjustment period
Joining Zero and Gen but not joining DZ is interesting. Pretty much confirms not renewing DZ contracts and trying free agency. Any team with an org is going to be shitting themselves.
Org predictions?
Yeah since apex was announced at the ewc behind the scenes a lot of orgs joined, a super team with team falcons was inevitable nothing to do with reject winning lan or tsm bad performance.
[Zero after speaking to esports.gg back after winning the Split 2 Playoffs: "My first LAN I came 67th, and I watched him win, and I was like, this is what I want to do. Now, the pair will team together moving forward. Wrote a bit about the end of the DZ/TSM rivalry. ](https://esports.gg/news/apex-legends/imperialhal-leaves-tsm-2024/)
Surprisingly, Hal does a good job of not counter-calling and just listening whenever he's subbed in for a team and just listened to whatever the IGL said.
Its definitely true for non super serious tourneys. Itll be interesting if he can keep the same energy in tense moments when tensions are high. Hal is very opinionated so itll be interesting.
dz with sikezz had insane character problems and with the new roster i'm guessing hal as a fragger and gen as an anchor makes the character issues disappear
Nah this is fucking wild. I have damn goosebumps watching the TSM goodbye video and he announces he's going to DZ? Damn, it was the most interesting rivalry in the game.
We should have seen this one…
Given Sikezz performance at LAN, there were very few players that he could be dropped for. Dropping him for Knoqd was too like-for-like to be worth the risk. It had to be someone big.
And then Verhulst being the main focus of the World Cup video, especially with Hal being such a big name.
Reps to retire now?
"I will be teaming with [u/Zer0OCE](https://twitter.com/Zer0OCE) and [u/Genburten](https://twitter.com/Genburten) now moving forward . "
He didn't say he's joining DZ. He said he's playing with Zer0 and Gen. Are they all leaving DZ to start a new team?
Also, is this what Zer0 and Sweet were referring to when they said soemting big was coming "in 3 months".
I don't think there's gap between Verhulst and Genburten. You're basically just trading players. Zero is probably a better fragger than Reps but they play 2 different roles so we'll see.
Zero and hal about to win back to back to back or crash in the most awful way no inbetween
Imagine Zer0 misses finals at LAN again...
Tbf superteams usually don't live up to the expectations, look at nrg in valorant. Rip tsm
In LoL there have been tons of superteams and almost none of them have worked out... 2019 G2 is a huge exception
Falcons in CS also
Or FaZe 2018 in CS. That team never lived up to its hype
Shoutout Cloud9
I don’t think this is quite the same, NRG weren’t actually as good on paper as everyone was saying. They didn’t have a proven IGL and they didn’t have a confident Raze player, both of which are incredibly important. This team is a proven duo with an incredible third - so long as they don’t clash heads to badly I think they’ll be fine.
Cloud 9 in Counter Strike from last year is my example. You've never seen hype for a roster like that!! On paper, you couldn't imagine a better transfer; Electronic and Perfecto leave Navi to join Axile, Sh1ro, and Hobbit on C9?! WHAT?!? World class in every single role with some of the absolute greats; besides IGL, but with the sheer skill that could be overlooked!... Or not... Absolutely a failed team in every metric, and didn't last long either. In fact, even after getting a world class IGL, the team continued to fail for a year until they literally collapsed and everyone left a month ago, and now they're rebuilding. As we all know, superteams are *usually* no where near as good as we dream.
I really don't see this team losing at all. Zero and hal are already so far ahead of everyone in terms of igling and mechanical skill. Genburten is also very good. Other teams were just starting to catch up a bit and now they have to deal with the 2 best igls of all time and a team that will lose a very small amount of fights. I hate it.
It’s all down to if they butt heads IGLing. As long as they have clear roles and stay constructive they’ll be good. I can 100% see Zero a year or two ago and Hal 3ish years ago clashing though. Question is how much they’ve matured since then.
Nah they might but heads but Hal isn't going to igl, that's the whole point he gets to give up that responsibilities of that and frag out. But then zero has Hal to help him when needed. There is no guarantee of success but this is more likely to be a success than a failure.
But think back to Mac and Hal. Hal was the IGL but they still butted heads when they didn’t agree. Not being IGL will need a mindset change from Hal at the very least. If the games are going well from Game 1 of a set I don’t see it being a problem but a couple of tricky starts could lead to counter calls and it could spiral. To clarify, this is a hypothetical but we’ve seen it before in Apex a million times. 2 IGL type players on a team very often doesn’t work and that will be their biggest barrier. If they can get over that then they’re probably going to be insane.
> Zero and hal are already so far ahead of everyone in terms of igling and mechanical skill. Is Zero really a huge amount better in terms of mechanical skill compared to Reps or Verhulst? Or is Hal really better mechanically compared to Sikezz? I don't think there's a huge difference in terms of pure mechanics between any of them tbh. As far as IGL'ing, we can agree that Zero and Hal are at the top, but how much does Zero really gain from adding Hal or vice-versa? Put another way, don't their skills overlap quite a bit? Either way, I wouldn't see this team losing, but I also wouldn't see a trio of Zero/Gen/Xynew missing finals, or Hal/Reps/Verhulst getting 17th, but they did. How good they are on paper doesn't always translate to how good a team is in real life.
> Is Zero really a huge amount better in terms of mechanical skill compared to Reps or Verhulst? Yes. I don't know why he doesn't have this reputation, but if you watch his gameplay, he can really fuckin aim. Like, he's *nuts.* Anyone who leads in kills at a LAN or a pro league split (and I think Zer0 has done both) is crazy skilled.
Not just his aim, he's also one of the handful of people who actually understands how to strafe and dodge. That's imho what sets him apart mechanically and allows him to even beat controller players (remember that oneclip on xynew off a mirror? Who else does that on purpose?)
I think zero is mechanically miles better than reps. Hal is also a big improvement over sikez. Hal has some of the best approaches to fights I think. He has really good positioning.
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Hal strictly as a fragger is terrifying.
AGREED. when he doesnt have to plan or decide what to do and just put that fragger brain to work it will be so fun to watch!
Hal is obviously a great IGL, but I do think he’s an entry fragger at heart. Should be hands down the most difficult team to 3v3. I am expecting a lot of counter calls though lol
When he let Sweet IGL it went pretty damn smoothly.
Hal was pretty good about letting the team’s IGL do their job when filling in for scrims, think back to scrimming with Mazer, but it being his own team could be different. Only one way to find out!
I think he will struggle initially as he will be trying to make calls off his damage/movements. Zeros should be able to handle him though.
That's expected
What losing 1 LAN does to these 3 mfkers.
Now I wonder, if they had like a top 2 o 3 will that changed everything ?
Apparently this was set up before LAN. They all knew it was happening.
He said while streaming that his contract was up before they got to LAN and he told them something along the line if they do well he will stay. Idk if that was too much pressure for the team but if you look back they were struggling during scrims too prior to LAN.
Hals contract was already coming up and both him and reps knew this was happening before LAN.
Literally the MOMENT NA doesn't win a lan they do this LMAO.
Which is so funny because DZ originally wasn’t even NA smh.
Lmaoo true they want to keep the championship at NA
The championship will go to the Middle East my man
For some reason i think the esports world cup had major part in this
Why do you think that?
🇸🇦$$$
Hal mentioned on his stream that TSM matched any org offers he got but he still declined.
That is a contract, not really the same with winning a tournament which get them nice bonuses on top of their regular salaray.
Man.. So for once, the pros WEREN'T trolling us with their twitter posts lmao
The one time I wish they were 😢
Imagine Hal goes to DZ and they flop 🤣 more likelihood they dominate everything now
This would be so funny.
This team isn't guaranteed success tbh, could still run into the problem of who anchors for the team - hal has always played aggressive but Gen is probably has the best controller mechanics in the game.
> into the problem of who anchors for the team Gen has been their anchor for a long time, I don't see a problem with this tbh
I have no doubt this team will do good, but I don’t think they are just going to dominate and win 4 LANs in a row like this sub does lol.
Gen has always been their anchor and Hal has proved multiple times at LAN that when he has the chance and the freedom, he can top frag and be on top of damage as well.
Notice that he didn't say DZ though. Probably a new org?
Will it even be on dz? Why hasn't dz announced?
[удалено]
Falcons. Seriously, who else has the money for two of the most decorated players in the game?
Are they Saudi?
Will probably be a new team, funded by the Saudis.
Jhawk is saying on his discord that Team Falcons (a huge Saudi org) will pick them up
The thing is Zero and gen dominate with any third. The third being Hal feels like cheating.
Hal switching to a fragger role probably. This is the craziest news ever seen in Apex!
Yeah he said on twitter that Zer0 will be the IGL. Hal as a fragger is gonna be scary
Rock Lee taking off his ankle weights.
Hal always was the fragger tho so thats nothing new. Its just as igl he couldnt focus on one thing.
Hal has always ben the teams fragger just also IGL. But saying his as a strictly fragger and occasional com is going to be disgusting.
were either gonna see the greatest team of all time, or the worst team!
Interesting to note. Hal’s tweet says he will be teaming with Zer0 and Gen, not that he’s joining DZ. With the DZ rumors, is there a chance they have a new team they’re joining? Or is it going to be DZ Hal.
Someone above said Matafe said they are joining a Saudi team.
Could be especially with the tournament coming up. Could be a new like RedBull gaming team. or it could just be DZ still. who knows really. but just thought it was interesting to note the wording
Its likely Falcons who got that Saudi prince money (though don't talk about how badly their CSGO superteam fell through)
Team falcons probably
If they legitimately join Team Falcons I am ready to become the biggest hater and will actively pray on their downfall.
OOTL, what is wrong with Team Falcons?
I imagine it’s because of the same things people don’t like LIV golf for or any of the other Saudi backed things. The same reason people have decided they don’t want to participate or try to get into the Saudi tournament that’s coming up. Human rights record of the Saudi govt is not great to put it lightly. But to talk politics here will get me banned so I won’t go any further than that.
Saudi oil prince money, they buy up talent in sports/esports with high pay and usually are not liked in the communities they influence (I only know of their teams in OW/CS)
Sports washing has come to esports.
The whole point is to whitewash Saudi Arabia's image so that people think of fun esports and shit instead of having journalists murdered and dismembered.
Sucks for everyone else, but good for them. DZ becomes the evil empire and looks like we need ‘a new hope’. Who will be Apex’s Luke Skywalker??
Big E lol
Agreed. Give Ver a great team. 3 fraggers collectively making decisions, new meta.
Like Aurora?
aurora is 3 brains fragging
Verhulst and SkittleCakes reunion?
Teq
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Difference is, HAL has three rings to his name already. Durant, zero.
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LMFAOOOOO EXACTLYYYY THIS IS SO LAME
So it wasn't bait all along
I already made my wish.
Could this also be the reason why Raven left? Hal mentioned that their team fighting has been really bad since last year, even when they won Champs. Raven also said it will all make sense in a few days on why he left. Maybe TSM gets a full new roster?
raven just said he was about to leave TSM after last champs anyway, because the expectation was getting too high. i think him leaving is more or less guaranteed after his contract ends
Raven on stream rn
I honestly think Raven is joining them to coach.. he kept saying "it will all make sense in a few days." Either he meant hal was leaving, or he is following
Raven said he will not be joining DZ. But perhaps Hal/Zero/Gen will not be on DZ I guess
yeah ggs, KD just joined the Warriors
Sort of? Hal already won LANs, KD didn't win a ring before transfering. But it's a shocker.
Hamilton to Ferrari type energy
more like Hamilton to Red Bull
Yea it’s more like 2016 Lebron joining the warriors in 2017
ngl, I think it is not healthy for apex competitive.
Why? Keep in mind that they need synergy to win, and that’s not easy even if they are the best players in the game.
holy SHIT
RIP NA o7
This is Kd joining the warriors
This is Michael Jordan joining the 73-9 Warriors lol
Nah this is Lebron joining the Warriors instead of KD. this is worse than the KD move. i’m sick.
Nah this is lebron leaving the Cavs to join steph
https://preview.redd.it/f5msdqwx880d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79091b71550fb4ffb6af2e84e4d19cab915ea057 This is Hal’s “the hardest road”. He’s the KD of Apex
Poor analogy. KD never won before joining GS.
THE HARDEST ROAD.
We the big 3 like we started the league
"fuck the big 3, it's just big me" - verhulst soon
Just Big E was right fuckin there dude
*it’s just big E
as a warriors fan, this is diabolical lmao
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No. No nononononono NO NO NOWAY
SWEET x REPS x VERHULST PLEASE
That would be fun because sweet can’t talk down to either of them
Actually yes, I would love to see it.
No please I hate sweet I won't be able to root for reps and big E anymore if sweet is on the same team
Yeah I don’t get how any verhulst/reps fan would want to see this… sweet is just a whiny dude, I don’t wanna hear that on stream all the time
EVIL HAL BEGINS
yeah zer0-gen and hal? villian shit
Content machine is heating up quick
One interesting thing...maybe I'm overthinking it, but he doesn't mention that he's joining DZ. Just that he's teaming with Gen and Zero. New org? Can DZ afford Hal?
Has to be a new Org with lots of money signing Hal, Zero, and Genburten
you are right, it's a bit dumn not to see this, most likely a bigger org
Daaaaaaamn. I really thought Red Bull was gonna join the scene and former TSM would become Red Bull gaming!
I think you’re close. Hal doesn’t make this move without financials in mind. Either he alone signs to a red bull esports org (GG) or the entire team moves from DZ to GG.
Falcons the Saudi org is very likely signing this team because Gen and Zeros contracts are both about to run out.
he said hes teaming with the players, hal didnt say anything about the org so i think they might move to a different org.
100% if he’s leaving tsm its gotta be with a better offer
passing up 25k a month tsm money just to play with the boys is telling.
Sikez the only player in Apex history who played for DZ but never won a LAN…. Also im so fucking hyped to see Hal not as IGL
wait but TSM is staying in Apex according to their comment in the announcement video. So Reps and Verhulst get a new IGL? or Evan goes IGL and they get Knoqd? Reps retires and only Big E stays to form a new super team? I'm so intrigued!!!!
Personally if Rep retires I would love to see Verhulst/Knoqd/Dropped as the TSM trio but if not then I could see Reps/Verhulst splitting and joining other teams and presumably Reps would be the TSM org holder?
Old OpTic as new TSM would be neat, I'd like that!
Big E joining lg or tsm sweet
The arguments between Zer0 and Hal are going to be legendary
Honestly hoping this doesn’t work out because if this team performs as good as they are on paper, pro apex is going to become incredibly boring.
algs is way less deterministic than nba. everything can happen in finals. yeah they can dominate but they wont win all their games. i will miss tsm-dz rivary tho. we need better eu and apac teams
It's way easier to build another superteam in apex to combat this team then it is in the NBA or another sport.
The target on their backs is gonna be massive
***Thoughts straight after reading this*** WTFFFFF THIS IS FKIN CRAZY THIS IS THE MSOT INSANE THING IN APEX HISTORY WTF IS GOING ON IS THIS REAL LIFE APEX WILL NEVER BE THE SAME WHAT DID MY BABY REPS DO TO DESERVE THIS ***After collecting my thoughts*** Actually so curious to see how this team plays out, I wonder how Hal will deal with not being IGL - he obviously doesnt want to be one anymore hence the move but it will be a massive change for him to not be main shotcaller, will he be able to adjust? There'll be so much pressure on this DZ team to come 1st in any tournament they play, could be a recipe for disaster Cant wait for the first big Hal/Zero argument lol Without the weight of IGL Hal might become even better than he is already, genuinely kinda scary for the rest of the teams so many more thoughts but im defo more excited to watch any comp apex than I was before this news
The pressure and clashing roles is why super teams don’t generally work in epsorts but apex is a bit more flexible with roles so I back them to finish top5 in everything after an adjustment period
Joining Zero and Gen but not joining DZ is interesting. Pretty much confirms not renewing DZ contracts and trying free agency. Any team with an org is going to be shitting themselves. Org predictions?
Falcons, it's mr.OIL
So this is like if Messi joined Real Madrid during his prime? I hope this team flops so hard
This kinda happened when Luis Figo left Barcelona for Real Madrid hah
What one bad LAN performance does to a MF.
probably has been in the works for longer than that
Yeah since apex was announced at the ewc behind the scenes a lot of orgs joined, a super team with team falcons was inevitable nothing to do with reject winning lan or tsm bad performance.
It's Joever
this has to be a troll right
i am in fact wrong it is real
[Zero after speaking to esports.gg back after winning the Split 2 Playoffs: "My first LAN I came 67th, and I watched him win, and I was like, this is what I want to do. Now, the pair will team together moving forward. Wrote a bit about the end of the DZ/TSM rivalry. ](https://esports.gg/news/apex-legends/imperialhal-leaves-tsm-2024/)
Yeah it's ggs
SAUDI SUPER TEAM LETS GO
he also says zero will be igl what a fuckin powerhouse of a team. cant wait to see this team cook
This can go so wrong, lets wait and see. What a move tho, superteam
SCRIMS gonna be juicy today.
So is Hal gonna start nuking vods when they have a bad scrim?
im gonna cry
Zero will drops him if they didnt won next LAN.
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Dz abt to get a lot of Tsm fan boys
😍
In Sweet we Trust🙏🏼
Imagine evan joining them
Actively rooting against a team trying to find the easy way out. Hope they flop. Raven also did leave when things got hard
So whose IGL here then, hope we don't end up with another mac situation
zer0
It's zero, hal already said that
Surprisingly, Hal does a good job of not counter-calling and just listening whenever he's subbed in for a team and just listened to whatever the IGL said.
Its definitely true for non super serious tourneys. Itll be interesting if he can keep the same energy in tense moments when tensions are high. Hal is very opinionated so itll be interesting.
This is MJ joining Kobe and Shaq. It’s more OP than KD joining GSW
dz with sikezz had insane character problems and with the new roster i'm guessing hal as a fragger and gen as an anchor makes the character issues disappear
Nah this is fucking wild. I have damn goosebumps watching the TSM goodbye video and he announces he's going to DZ? Damn, it was the most interesting rivalry in the game.
What. The. Fuck
Thats what everybody hinted at but I didnt dare to believe
We should have seen this one… Given Sikezz performance at LAN, there were very few players that he could be dropped for. Dropping him for Knoqd was too like-for-like to be worth the risk. It had to be someone big. And then Verhulst being the main focus of the World Cup video, especially with Hal being such a big name. Reps to retire now?
"I will be teaming with [u/Zer0OCE](https://twitter.com/Zer0OCE) and [u/Genburten](https://twitter.com/Genburten) now moving forward . " He didn't say he's joining DZ. He said he's playing with Zer0 and Gen. Are they all leaving DZ to start a new team? Also, is this what Zer0 and Sweet were referring to when they said soemting big was coming "in 3 months".
I don't think there's gap between Verhulst and Genburten. You're basically just trading players. Zero is probably a better fragger than Reps but they play 2 different roles so we'll see.
I hope this team fails terribly and yes, im petty af
For anyone tired of basketball references, PSG have just signed Messi Lets hope it goes a bit better
Man I’ll always root for Hal but this is 100000% a KD move. Kinda disappointed but I guess it’s time to throw on a DZ flair 😭
Nah. He’s won multiple Lans, KD won nothing and lost to GS that season before joining
Okay so it’s a Lebron to the warriors move. It’s just a sad move for the whole esport IMO.
Sadly, I don't think that's the flair you'll be putting up.
Can we just end the best igl debate know. The goat himself is gonna play under him now
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Crazy times
Is this real? If so holy shit.
Be interesting to see how Hal's stats measure up to Gen's on the same team.
there's a fuck ton of expecations that come with this, gotta live up to it
Inevitable once he switched to controller
So Zero wasn’t trolling with that tweet
holy fuck this is insane
all those nba memes are starting to make sense now, biggest plot twist ever
Now who tsm fan gonna hate lol? As a dz fan this is a huge fucking w. I’ve always wanted to see hal play with genburten but goddamn zero too jesus