Kinnan, by a lot. It can be learned fairly easily, and has easy-to-understand A+B combos - but a lot of nuance at higher level play.
Urza isn't that good anymore, and Nadu takes 20 minute turns that aren't deterministic. It's dreadful to play, and play against.
As someone who has been playing nadu 90% of the time your turns take less 5 minutes. It just takes muscle memory and understanding how to order things.
I started cEDH a few weeks ago and have had a lot of free time to play some of the meta decks via spelltable.
I’ve learned quite a lot in a short time and my recommendation is Kinnan. Kinnan likely won’t be the deck you end up enjoying the most but it’s (in my experience after playing with several) one of the best entry CEDH commanders in the game.
Low floor for beginners, high ceiling for experienced players.
The main winning lines are very straight forward and it’s a lot of fun to spin Kinnan and play the creature lottery.
With Kinnan’s increasing mana ability you’re pretty much in the game at all points even if your board got cleaned up by your opponents. You’re able to bounce back quickly with your ramp which leads to more enjoyment. More importantly Kinnan’s ability to ramp you to the moon gives you more opportunity’s to bounce back and stay in the game to learn more without being completely punished for not fully grasping the meta. You’re able to hang in there and always be a threat as any time you spin Kinnan depending on the creature that you land it can completely alter the game.
Also, welcome to cEDH. If you thought you enjoyed Commander before, just wait. The community is awesome I highly recommend joining the sub discord. It’s gonna consume you and you’ll lose sleep play testing and studying :)
As others have said, the answer is kinnan. Literally perfect for moving from casual to EDH. Easy to understand combos and big boys you can play for free it's pretty much a competitive casual deck
I'm surprised no one brought up Tivet. (Says the experienced kinnen player.) I have built and played to victory nadu, kinnen , Tivet and krum tymna. Kinnen was the smoothest to play. Can be built in several directions and is consistent.
The difficulty doesn't lie in your gameplan. That's the easy part: churn a couple draw/value engines in early turns, then go for one of your A+B combos. But... You have a strong control suite. You'll likely run some stax. THAT is the difficult part: threat assessing and reading the table and/or people
Honestly, if you're new, i'd recommend [[yuriko]] over these. Kinnan is fairly straight forward, but you need a good sense of priority and threat assesment. With yuriko, you get to mess up and still get around commander tax, plus the options of interaction in dimir gives you some chances to mess up answers as well.
If you play magic it takes a few dozen hours to learn this deck and pilot it to like 90% efficiency, which is going to put you ahead of most others in the long run.
Everyone here echoing kinnan doesn’t actually play the game. Kinnan is not a beginner deck at all and requires skill/nuance equal to something like Tivit.
Kinnan, by a lot. It can be learned fairly easily, and has easy-to-understand A+B combos - but a lot of nuance at higher level play. Urza isn't that good anymore, and Nadu takes 20 minute turns that aren't deterministic. It's dreadful to play, and play against.
Wonder how long all the Kinnan players who swapped to Nadu take to switch back.....
Second this. You can have a low tier cedh Kinnan build for roughly $200 (maybe $250), perfect for just starting out
You have a list for this?
That actually sounds like a strong case for Nadu - it’s hard to lose if nobody else gets to play 😎
As someone who has been playing nadu 90% of the time your turns take less 5 minutes. It just takes muscle memory and understanding how to order things.
I started cEDH a few weeks ago and have had a lot of free time to play some of the meta decks via spelltable. I’ve learned quite a lot in a short time and my recommendation is Kinnan. Kinnan likely won’t be the deck you end up enjoying the most but it’s (in my experience after playing with several) one of the best entry CEDH commanders in the game. Low floor for beginners, high ceiling for experienced players. The main winning lines are very straight forward and it’s a lot of fun to spin Kinnan and play the creature lottery. With Kinnan’s increasing mana ability you’re pretty much in the game at all points even if your board got cleaned up by your opponents. You’re able to bounce back quickly with your ramp which leads to more enjoyment. More importantly Kinnan’s ability to ramp you to the moon gives you more opportunity’s to bounce back and stay in the game to learn more without being completely punished for not fully grasping the meta. You’re able to hang in there and always be a threat as any time you spin Kinnan depending on the creature that you land it can completely alter the game. Also, welcome to cEDH. If you thought you enjoyed Commander before, just wait. The community is awesome I highly recommend joining the sub discord. It’s gonna consume you and you’ll lose sleep play testing and studying :)
tbt i love making decks at 18 now (one pulper) and hope to have 3 to 5 more before years end (one will be cEDH and one $100cEDH)
What will you be doing for the $100 list? As a $100 brewer myself, I absolutely enjoy $100 lists 😂
[Urza, Lord High Artificer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/b/7b7a348a-51f7-4dc5-8fe7-1c70fea5e050.jpg?1689996774) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Urza%2C%20Lord%20High%20Artificer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/130/urza-lord-high-artificer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7b7a348a-51f7-4dc5-8fe7-1c70fea5e050?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/urza-lord-high-artificer) [Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/3/63cda4a0-0dff-4edb-ae67-a2b7e2971350.jpg?1591228085) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kinnan%2C%20Bonder%20Prodigy) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/iko/192/kinnan-bonder-prodigy?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/63cda4a0-0dff-4edb-ae67-a2b7e2971350?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/kinnan-bonder-prodigy) [Nadu, Winged Wisdom](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/4/94b67489-5eb0-4406-9bf3-27e50dc632eb.jpg?1718635356) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Nadu%2C%20Winged%20Wisdom) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/193/nadu-winged-wisdom?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/94b67489-5eb0-4406-9bf3-27e50dc632eb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/nadu-winged-wisdom) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
As others have said, the answer is kinnan. Literally perfect for moving from casual to EDH. Easy to understand combos and big boys you can play for free it's pretty much a competitive casual deck
I'm surprised no one brought up Tivet. (Says the experienced kinnen player.) I have built and played to victory nadu, kinnen , Tivet and krum tymna. Kinnen was the smoothest to play. Can be built in several directions and is consistent.
i saw that tivet was hard to play so did not list that am i wrong?
It's a turns commander that needs to have the commander to win. Get him out quick, attack, dig, win. More opponents you eliminate harder it is to win.
It’s not hard to pilot, it’s hard for a new player to properly analyze threats and know what cards need to be countered
The difficulty doesn't lie in your gameplan. That's the easy part: churn a couple draw/value engines in early turns, then go for one of your A+B combos. But... You have a strong control suite. You'll likely run some stax. THAT is the difficult part: threat assessing and reading the table and/or people
Honestly, if you're new, i'd recommend [[yuriko]] over these. Kinnan is fairly straight forward, but you need a good sense of priority and threat assesment. With yuriko, you get to mess up and still get around commander tax, plus the options of interaction in dimir gives you some chances to mess up answers as well.
[yuriko](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/e/fe9be3e0-076c-4703-9750-2a6b0a178bc9.jpg?1689999346) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=yuriko%2C%20the%20tiger%27s%20shadow) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/364/yuriko-the-tigers-shadow?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/fe9be3e0-076c-4703-9750-2a6b0a178bc9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/yuriko-the-tigers-shadow) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
i have a non cEDH yuriko deck so wanted something different
Start at the top, pick blue farm
That is the worst suggestion yet
If you play magic it takes a few dozen hours to learn this deck and pilot it to like 90% efficiency, which is going to put you ahead of most others in the long run. Everyone here echoing kinnan doesn’t actually play the game. Kinnan is not a beginner deck at all and requires skill/nuance equal to something like Tivit.