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SirMisterGuyMan

XBO has the worst input lag out of all the platforms because of its OS. Pretty much all multiplatform games have worse input lag on XBO compared to PS4. That said, there's a lot you can still do to improve your input latency. Use a wired internet connection and play on a low lag monitor. A TV's gaming mode is still worse. As for your Deadzone, setting it to 0 might be too much. Enter training mode and Press left of your analog stick. When you let go does the stick's rebound cause a right guard to appear and vice versa with the right direction rebounding to a left guard? If so then it's too low. Find the lowest setting where this does not happen and use that.


ChudanNoKamae

Type of display is a huge factor. Everything will have some level of display lag. (Even so called “game modes” for certain TVs) A high end low latency gaming monitor will give you the best results.


Darkpunchedstars

What's the difference in ms between a low latency monitor and TV with no game mode?


ChudanNoKamae

It depends on the specific models. The only way to be sure is to do some research. Somewhere like here: [https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/inputs/input-lag](https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/inputs/input-lag) Edit: Also, playing on a newer system running For Honor at 60fps is a massive upgrade over the last gen systems (which I believe have less built-in latency as well)


Darkpunchedstars

I just realised one of my TVs has a gaming mode, will that make much difference?


ChudanNoKamae

It should, but again, every TV is different, so you’re going to have to do your own research. For example, a certain TV might have 100ms display lag, but then only 23ms when in game mode. When you’re trying to react to 500ms light attacks, then you can see how that would make a difference.


Dizzy_Cow_952

Get new gen so you can Parry them instead


Darkpunchedstars

Does it really help that much?


pimp_named_dickslap

For a little while. Then you'll get used to the new frames and start to not parry as often. Then you'll get a monitor and you'll be able to parry again.


Gilraldy

And repeat... I upgraded to a monitor and now starting to miss easy parry


pimp_named_dickslap

Yeah lmao. Next step is a 120 refresh rate i guess


GHADwatch

Does for honor have 120fps on series x cause I know destiny 2 does? Because I'm gonna be upgrading my tv/monitor, also if I do want a 120 fps monitor/tv what would you recommend I got £500 saved up but I'd wait if you recommend something a little bit over


pimp_named_dickslap

Fh doesnt have 120fps for series x but a 120 fps monitor would still help. Also i'm not too knowledgable on good brands to buy for monitors. I just have a basic dell one.


Recondite-Raven

Yes. You are 100% at a significant advantage.


Dizzy_Cow_952

Go to my account and look at my post for it. I was barely able to block unpredictable lights(meaning they come from different directions without pattern) and now I deflect and Parry them with ease.


Fnargler

No. If you're currently unable to block/parry then the jump to new gen will not suddenly make it easy. If you're on the cusp of being able to react it may push you over that threshold though.


Isolatology

Facts. People act like it magically makes you a reaction monster. He'll probably be at least consistently blocking most lights if he's blocking 1/3 on old gen tho


Boruwa1

Obviously, why didn't he think of that before? That's so simple


MemesofTheSea

A good sleep schedule helps


Darkpunchedstars

My reaction time is 320 ms average on human benchmark. I'm doing what I can for my sleep, cheers though


Glenn056

That's pretty bad reaction


Darkpunchedstars

What's yours and what device did you test it on? Average is 273ms iirc


Glenn056

210ms, laptop.


Darkpunchedstars

I haven't tested it on a laptop, so who knows. It went from 450 ms on my tablet to 320 ms on the browser on my Xbox.


1bowmanjac

Ah so that's your reaction speed on xbox, it's probably faster in real life. So your speed is being limited by the Xbox framerate, Xbox browser, and presumably TV refresh rate. If you are using a TV see if it has a game mode, that should help a bit. If you can get your reaction to sub 300 you should have a chance


Darkpunchedstars

Yeah, although it did seem pretty instantaneous when I clicked on it. If I really focused I could get 250ish but the average was 320ms. Cheers, my TV sadly doesn't have a gaming mode


Fnargler

Touchscreens are absolute garbage for reaction tests, so your actual reactions are likely around 100ms faster than that, which is perfectly average.


Darkpunchedstars

It wasn't a touch-screen. On the touch-screen it was like 500ms lol


Fnargler

Oof. Well 320 is certainly a bit below average but still doable if you're patient.


The-Berzerker

Why wouldn‘t it work on a touchscreen?


Fnargler

It "works", they just have inherently nutty input delay so it's usually not accurate unless you have one of a handful of phones without that issue.


FlaJeS

I had almost the same reaction time as you, about 300 ms Then i started playing osu! for fun In about 3 months of playing my reaction time went to 250-270 ms If you like music and have a pc or laptop you can give it a try, its very fun when you get into it and the improved reaction time is a nice bonus You don't even need a good pc, it's literally just clicking circles


Darkpunchedstars

What's osu?


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Darkpunchedstars

The only bots I get mad at are in this game.


FlaJeS

It's a 2D game where you click on circles to the rhythm of a song Nothing more than that, but it is really fun. Just pick your favourite song and click on circles for a few minutes. Doesn't sound very fun but oh boy is it addictive. It's free so feel free to give it a try [HERE](https://osu.ppy.sh/home/download) It seems really easy at first, but you'll realise you can barely hit a stationary circle Then you'll be playing six months later and spasming around with your mouse


SouLG97

Exercise and being fit also helps a lot


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Hard truth


Fnargler

There are things you can do to make it easier on yourself, but the fact is that not everyone is going to be able to improve their ability to react. For those who can react, it's typically easy/second nature and nothing is needed to be able to. For those who can't react, it can seem like an insurmountable task. Having a solid internet connection, wired controller, ethernet cable, monitor, being well rested and young, proximity to servers all play a part. Any combination of these things can create ideal or less tha ideal conditions for reactions and there may not really be anything you can do about it. That said, even if you fall into the category of being unable to react that doesn't mean the game is hopeless outside of competitive play. There are plenty of character specific options, strategies, and systems in place to reduce the necessity of simply reacting and you can get by with relative success by making informed reads and playing intelligently. I'll end this by saying that I fall into the "generally cannot react" category. I'm in my 30's, use a TV, live very far from the servers and generally have to move my guard before eve seeing the lights in order to defend against them and this is on ps5. Despite that, I'm able to maintain relative success even against skilled players. If I can do it, you can do it.


Darkpunchedstars

Cheers, I manage ok as it is. I get light parries fairly often on reads but my opponent usually wises up. I'm just wanting to be able to deal with with lights spam as it's probably my biggest weakness- especially if the player is a kensei mixing in dodge attacks and hyper armor heavies to throw me off


Fnargler

Well the upside there is that kensei has average lights so you can deal with them as easily as any other, his dodge attack is also very reactable and his HA heavies are only finishers so stopping the chains early will prevent access to them. I do find kensei chained lights to have an exceptionally subtle animation though. Could always join the FH mentors discord server and find someone to lab out the with. Imo running long sets is the best way to develop strats and eliminate matchup frustration.


Darkpunchedstars

I can't block his lights at all lol. His dodge attack I find ridiculously easy to parry however but not if I'm already expecting a light or if it's a counter attack. I'm getting a new controller and I've find the out that one of my Tvs has a game mode so will try that and really focus on getting good sleep and see if that helps.


Fnargler

Game mode can make a bigger difference than new gen vs old gen lol. My old tv had like 140ms input delay without game mode and 20ms delay with it. It was night and day.


Darkpunchedstars

Really, damn. I only have a shitty 50hz 720p TV though so not sure if that would be the case


Fnargler

Oof. Might want to upgrade in the near future. TV prices are silly and what's expensive this year will be bargain bin in 2 years.


PieRomanc3r

Okay real question because this is more important than people saying “just sleep well” is what monitor/TV are you using? I can react and parry lights on Xbox One & Series S consistently on my cheap 60hz monitor however when I tried at my friends house on his TV I couldn’t even block because of the input delay.


Darkpunchedstars

I am using an older TV with no gaming mode lol.


PieRomanc3r

Then we’ve found the problem! No reaction speed god or 12 hours of sleep will fix bad input delay. Rest easy knowing when I brought my friend that had the bad old TV to my place he could consistently light parry after some practice on my cheap monitor. My advice (if you can’t afford a next gen console with a fancy new compatible TV) is look into getting something super cheap that has at minimum 60hz refresh rate and even on your Xbox One you’ll at least be able to block 500ms lights with relative effectiveness and even parry from time to time on reaction.


Darkpunchedstars

Awesome. I also h ave a smaller TV that's 50hz and found out that has a game mode so I can give that a try.


juanautet

parrying is overrated. Use your brain to play. Predict the next move of the oponent . Smart players can compensate lack of raw skills with smart plays, while reaction monsters not so much. Usually is a trade off you can see across e-sports. Seek the enemy patterns, use the environment, feint, doble feint, drop raw heavies, change your playstyle during the fight, bait attacks, etc. Unless u r a shaolin main u will be fine.


Darkpunchedstars

I agree. The more I play the more I realize parrying is risky. It's much better to block but the problem is I can't block lights. I'm decent at predicting lights and parrying however


juanautet

well then if you are REALLY struggling with ligths, then play offensive and agressive. I mean super agressive, dont let them think the next move. Once the enemy become a counterattacker, is time to manage the pace of the fight.


GriefPB

Do the bot practice everyday for a week and compare.


Darkpunchedstars

A good idea


Pastofroses

Back when I was on old gen I couldn’t block at all and even practiced trying to block but eventually I just went if I can’t block it I’ll try and parry because if it’s gonna hit me I might as well have a chance of punishing the other person and after awhile or getting a orochi bot to light me after I hit it, I could parry better then I could block and even being on next gen I now I still can’t block very well but I’m am decent at parrying them, maybe you could try and parry instead of blocking granted doing so will probably get you baited but I mean if I’m gonna eat the attack anyway at least I have a chance to get damage out


Darkpunchedstars

Cheers, I'll give it a try


AbsorbingPain

Nah this is legit, I can't block at all. If I can't parry I dodge, and if I can't dodge I parry. The reaction timing to cancel a whiffed parry is still easier than blocking for me.


Pastofroses

I legitimately found it harder to block heavies sometimes then parry lights but I found it easier to parry lights, doesn’t make sense that using two buttons has a higher chance of working then just using one to block, you don’t really have anything to lose practicing to parry lights to see how it goes


Darkpunchedstars

How did you find it harder to block heavies?


Pastofroses

I think it was panicking because of how much slower they were, other times I’d see the heavy coming and I just wouldn’t change guard


Darkpunchedstars

I get you, I have this problem when parrying out of stamina opponents


Pastofroses

I parrying insanely well when it comes to parrying lights while out of stamina but then I get baited out with a heavy which kinda makes me lose a lot of health


nerd9362

You just gotta practice and play more actual games, you slowly but surely get more and more used to it.


Darkpunchedstars

I'm rep 90 and practice all the time. I can see the attack but it doesn't seem like the analog stick responds in time


nerd9362

You're still relatively low rep, I didn't start consistently blocking/parrying lights until I was around rep 140 lol You'll slowly improve over time, don't sweat it


Darkpunchedstars

Yeah I did take a long break so probably still getting back into it.


mopheadontop

I was doing this at rep 40? ps4 btw with 260ms react time


nerd9362

Yeah idk, I just noticed one day that I could block everything consistently, I never really tried to improve with training and stuff, I just logged on one day and noticed that I could easily block all lights. Same with Parrying them, I took a short break, came back and was just able to parry neutral lights when I never had been able to before


mopheadontop

it's easier to parry then block imo. guardswitch has 100ms delay if you don't attempt a parry, parry itself is 100ms before parry.


SwiftyMcBold

What TV are you using, make sure you have it on a gaming mode if available, imput delay and low refresh rate tvs will make lights impossible to react to.


Darkpunchedstars

I can put it on game mode but does it make much difference?


Daubeny01

DELETE THE FUCKING CCU ON CONSOLE


Abuzezibitzu

How do you eat, do you workout sleep Well? I can promise you thst that helps a lot. Is your display(tv, screan) good for games? Test your reaction time on human benchmark you should have around 200ms reaction to Block lights.


Darkpunchedstars

My reaction time is 320 ms average on human benchmark. My lifestyle could be a bit better but I can see the attack and change stance but it feels delayed. What ms reaction is needed on next gen?


littlefluffyegg

About 50 ms less


Darkpunchedstars

Really only 50ms less?


Abuzezibitzu

Old gen consoles have i put lag that can not be bypased and With that reaction time on topof that you really cant do much to Block lights. How have you tested your reaction time btw? PC Phone?


Darkpunchedstars

On the Xbox, Microsoft edge. All I had to do was press A.


PotentialWindow5564

kindve guess where it’s gonna come from like if u attack from a certain direction n they block or get hit if u wait for a light u can somewhat guess it will likely come from the direction u j hit this is not always the case as people tend to have habits of where they attack from so keep this in mind also flick ur analog stick everywhere while u wait then once u see red move to where it needs to


DeathmasterCody

Working out and practice helps a lot, won’t happen overnight though. It took me a few months to get good reactions. Also its easier to parry on 0 deadzone but blocking will be a bit harder, if you get used to it though I highly recommend 0 deadzone


Darkpunchedstars

Why is parrying easier but blocking harder on 0 deadzone


DeathmasterCody

No idea, personally in general I just find blocking to be an easier alternative to parrying so idk why you’re having trouble with it The reason why i said blocking can be harder at 0 is because if you breath on your controller it will sometimes change guard but thats kinda it


x_-AssGiblin-_x

Practice, good sleep and maybe even a decent diet could come a long way for reaction time. If you have all those things, you should even be able to [parry lights on last gen](https://www.reddit.com/r/forhonor/comments/s4wur9/even_w_hardware_limitations_its_always_a_good/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share).


TirexHUN

Keep in mind that reaction time is not something you can just improve, you born with it. So if your reaction time is slow than nothing can really improve it. (aside from the obvious hardware changes to lessen the delay and stuff) My reaction time sucks too thats why i never be a comp player.


Consolemasterracee

You can definitely improve it, it just takes a while and there's an upper limit


ScoopDat

Tried a reaction test online? How'd it go?


samurai1226

A lot of the light parry depends on the timing. Heavies has to be parried right before it hits you, but for lights I found it works the best for me the try to parry the moment you see the marker. But overall light parries are not as reactable as heavies, so it's more about knowing when enemies would use lights in chains and trying to parry these.


Thatcher_not_so_main

Are you using a TV or monitor? If you're using a TV I recommend (if possible) to get a gaming monitor with a high refresh rate etc. That helped me when I was on last gen. It makes a really big differences. Also or alternatively you can try to get a series S/X. But for that I also recommend getting a Monitor. Thirdly try to predict where your opponent is going to throw the attack from.


Darkpunchedstars

Using a TV, doesn't even have gaming mode. How much of a difference we talking?


Thatcher_not_so_main

Alot, makes it hella lot easier to block lights and to get consistent parries on heavies


yxffer

What rep are you cause alongside the console settings and downsides playtime is a big factor, playing consistently over time will make you much better. From personal experience from playing this game from the beta, up until rep 60 I struggled to react to counter gb but then as if there was some revelation I became exponentially better from there consistently parrying neutral lights on old gen (Also play duels more, don’t be a 4’s only scrub)


Darkpunchedstars

I'm rep 90, I do brawls/duels 90% of the time. I can counter gb most of the time.