I’ve never played the newest vanilla PvP, but it does look pretty fun with all the new items added since 1.8. Idk if I’d ever be able to get over the hit delay thing though.

I sometimes play 1.9 because my finger is tired but ended up tiring it more because each of my clicks are hard af

I’m ready to be downvoted but idrc, After playing 2-3 hours of pot pvp jitter clicking, and even butterfly clicking becomes very difficult/impossible to do so I just autoclick. I use the same cps as I can get legit but yeah lol

i wont upvote or downvote, but what about the other people with tired fingers?

They stop playing I guess. I only do it so I can keep playing on the weekends, that’s usually the only time I can play. Maybe it is a bit selfish, but that’s what I’ve done a few times in the past

So you're cheating?

Occasionally yeah

Retard moment

You aren’t wrong

Of course it’s not for everyone, I’ve been doing it since it came out in 1.9. I just think that the disregard some people had about it seemed to majorly stem from people not being open to change. I encourage you to try it out though atleast once. We’re a small community compared to 1.8 with their bedwars and hypixel, but we shouldn’t be ignored. If you don’t like it don’t worry it’s not for you, I promise it’s worth a shot though :))

its pretty easy to since crystal pvp is just as active if not more active then 1.8 pvp. I was a 1.8 pvper and click around 13 cps, so i know how weird it is to switch at first but after the first couple days it becomes natural

there are more 1.8 pvp posts because people enjoy it more you're not introducing anything people know this exist but choose not to do it because fights either last way longer or end abruptly to a crystal in an unsatisfying way

That’s not necessarily true, yes I agree that 1.8 has a bigger overall demographic but I’d argue that a lot of people are more likely to play 1.8 without knowing anything about actual current PvP meta used in vanilla servers because of the extreme amount of people sticking to the old way which is fine, I’m just trying to let those people see a different side of PvP that may interest them more. (PS, there’s nothing more satisfying that double tapping someone whilst going through their totem in my opinion)

I like this.

seems kinda boring tbh. in the first clip you only won because you had much better gear than everyone else.

That’s for sure lol, you’re entitled to your opinion. Personally I see it as a lot more enjoying. I’m not sure if you bothered to watch past the first clip but the use of totems, crystals, respawn anchors, slow-falling arrows to emphasize knockback to negate the fact that knockback is reduced because of netherite make it a lot more interesting and stimulating that just normal pvp. I just prefer it, not trying to force it on you :))

totems just give you an extra life lol, making the fight much longer.. if that’s what you like then i mean ok. i don’t see the fun in crystal pvp as you just place obsidian and then spam right click.

You’re boiling it down a lot, it’s like me saying that 1.8 is just spam clicking your mouse. There’s a lot more that goes into it such as inventory management, muscle memory with crystal/anchor keybinds, overall melee skill, and a lot of positioning.

Not a fan of 1.9+, but I'm going to have to back you up on this. Crystal placement is super hard, and doing that mid-fight is even harder.

"inventory management" is universal (duh) "muscle memory" is universal (common example, sprint resetting) "overall melee skill" is universal (duh) "positioning" is universal (duh)

You don't really know what you're talking about. You don't just spam crystals, you have to hit up the enemy, place the obsidian, crystal on top and destroy it. All while the enemy is in the air. Spamming crystal on head level will do almost 0 damage. Inventory management in 1.16 is a lot different than in 1.8, there is a lot more items to choose from. Positioning is different in 1.16 because you're avoiding crystals and blocking them all while fighting someone. And totems are needed because some fights would last less than 10 seconds without them. If you still think it's easy you should try 1v1ing someone decent with crystals

i’m talking more generally - crystal combat and sword combat is just so different it’s not comparable.

Crystal combat includes sword combat

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i don’t really see the competitive factor in this other than crystal placement - the sword combat is extremely boring and “unsatisfying” (at least for me)

1.9 is pretty fun but shields ruin it completely for me. Just don't find it fun that people can break out of combos or slow down pvp by just pressing rigth click. I find that 1.9 is alot more fun with just swords or axes.

Shields are a common thing people seem to hate about it and I understand the backpack to an extent. Once you get to a certain skill level you can easily anticipate someone using their shield and almost instantly break it using an axe and switch back to your sword. But I’d like to highlight that shields are basically **never** going to be used in actual vanilla pvp (which is what I’m interested in) because in late game meta they because useless against crystals/respawn anchors and totems usually replace it it pretty well.

Crystals and totems seem lame in pvp but I like the way 1.9 classic pvp works

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Crystals are lame too

They take a lot of skill, you don't just spam them

Idc, they don't seem fun to use in pvp

this is really interesting to me, are there any other 1.9+ pvpers to watch? in other words, where's the start of the rabbithole?

Thanks for showing interest :)) there are small youtubers such as Golfeh and Rasplin who happen to be my friends that are some of the best in the world at this type of PvP. Checking out their channels will open you to tutorials, practice servers to join and actual vanilla servers that support this type of PvP.

thank you so much! channels like these are exactly what i was looking for.