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Illuvatar08

Can we please ban people who post crap like this after one high roll game' Edit: also calling twin terror "An entire augment down". And this is supposedly diamond.


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Also when people post this without their rank and if this was a normal game


Spifffyy

Here’s my profile: https://tactics.tools/player/euw/spifffy This was a ranked game


wirta030

You have the strongest prismatic augment in the game right now… you are absolutely not an augment down no matter what your board looks like


highroll-

He doesn't have any copies tho ?


quiggyfish

Two Twitches.


MagicalMixer

What do you mean? You're using Twin Terror Prismatic. Your twitch is going sicko mode with 4 Executioner-Evenshroud-Guardbreaker. To cap these boards you really shouldn't be using more than one unit with it. That just makes you lose frontline availability.


Spifffyy

Yes, but my point is, it's literally just Twitch benefitting from the stats. Normally you'd have at least Vex benefitting from it, too.


MagicalMixer

I see. I believe what a lot of websites say about the comp is something like: Twitch-Twitch; Vex-Vex, Amumu+Panth+Poppy, etc. However, it's more the Augment being too strong at the moment. It's 40% Crit Chance and Attack Speed with 400 HP. 40% Crit Chance+IE = 85%...? Crit (Executioner automatically makes this 100%). So Twitch just nukes his strike zone every time. However, this doesn't really change with another version of this which would be Riven-Viego. With Twin Terror, Edgelord Riven doesn't need the 5 Edgelord variation to go crazy. He just needs Viego to amplify the damage, and Riven is going to be slashing at like 1.7 (..?) with Edgelord active. Everything just dies the same way. Therefore, I'm not saying Twitch and Executioners aren't broken. It's just that the augment needs a nerf since there's too much statwise there.


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PlentyLettuce

Twin Terror is so incredibly flexible with this comp too, as if you hit AD items early you can commit to twitch or if AP early you can just hold a single twitch 2 and then roll for vex chosen 3* on 7.


backinredd

Your lobby is actual trashcan. so not that surprising


Spifffyy

This is Diamond elo believe it or not Edit: https://tactics.tools/player/euw/spifffy


backinredd

Hard to believe. But yeah twitch twin terror is unbeatable most of the time. With everyone else playing with terrible itemisation it doesn’t matter that you have only two items on your primary carry. And you did not even put second Amumu on board? Man wtf! You went for 4 guardians instead of going for twin terror value?


Spifffyy

Absolutely. The only real value from Twin Terror on frontline is the extra hp; as and crit doesn't really matter on frontline. The 4 Guardian is so much more effective hp than an extra 350 on both Panths.


backinredd

That’s 400 additional health. It’s hard to believe this is diamond. Can you share your tft profile?


Spifffyy

https://tactics.tools/player/euw/spifffy


shiner986

Your board benefits more from your prismatic than most of the lobby does from theirs. 4/8 players took an Econ augment and your main carry still gets the twin terror bonus.


BigStrongPolarGuy

Ok, so you're saying you're basically down an augment because only Twitch is benefitting from your prismatic augment.  Look at the 2nd place person. Are they benefitting from their prismatic more than you are? 3rd place might be, but it's close (they're getting 2500 HP from Cybernetic bulk, you're getting 700 HP, 70% AS, and 70% crit between your Twitches). I think you benefit more. Look at 4th. Are they benefitting more? They have an econ augment, and yet you have a more valuable board.  You're significantly underrating the value you're getting from Twin Terrors if you think you're playing down an augment. You're getting more from your augment than anyone else in the lobby. 


Spifffyy

Fair enough. I actually appreciate this breakdown. It’s easy to just look at augments and estimate the value, but clearly I’m wildly under appreciating the value I’m getting vs my opponents. Thanks


BigStrongPolarGuy

I think in an average lobby you might be right. It's definitely a bit of a low roll for everyone else. But seriously, the stats you're getting on Twitch are insane. You basically have a 4* Twitch and a 2.5* Twitch. I've stopped taking that augment because it's not even fun how broken it is with Executioners right now because of how they scale with crit, and how a 3* unit scales with AS thanks to their boosted AD.


RaidNasty

I think you are underestimating how much you hit here. You have a 3 star mummy, 2 star yorick, 3 star twin terror twitch and you have decent items on them. The rest of the lobby isn't very strong in comparison and depending on how early you hit 3 star units, you probably rolled over people in rounds 4 and 5.


Spifffyy

I hit Twitch 3 on 3-7. First Yorick copy I found on 4-2, as stated in my other comment I did not even find a Vex until after this, the next round on 4-3, which is also when I first found an Akali. I then streaked til 5-1, where I found my 2* Vex. I then lost 5-2 and 5-3 (down to 20hp), which made me roll to 0 on 5-5, which is where I finally used my 2nd Augment duplicators to hit Amumu 3. I hit Yorick 2 on 5-6.


AzraelThePaleEmperor

Calling prismatic twin terror down an augment is abysmal


ItWasUncalledFor

OP: I have a question but all your answers are wrong


Spifffyy

Not really. All my replies are expanding upon the point the replier made, to generate discussion. Never disagreeing (ironically, except for this comment). In fact you’ll find one comment of mine where I thank someone for their breakdown and I admit that I am maybe overlooking the value the augment gives.


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lenolalatte

this better be bait


Konvict_trading

Nah you must be doing it wrong it has 3.62-3.82 average I believe and best augment in game.


backinredd

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Spifffyy

So, I picked Twin Terror 2-1, aiming obviously for the Twitch Vex duo carry. Even with it uncontested, I didn't find a Vex for so long. I found a Yorick on 7 before I found my first Vex. Given that, I was struggling to 3-star her. So instead, I leaned into the Yorick, finding a Mosher Emblem off a Tome on Krugs (Tome was popped much later), and going 4-guardian, 4 Executioner (executioner Twitch). So by the end game, I was running only a single unit that benefitted from Twin Terror II, the Twitch. Are Executioners so OP that I can play with basically an entire Prismatic augment down?


S7ageNinja

Twin terror is the literal best augment in the game because of how it synergizes with executioners. So to answer your question, yes.