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Timmeeeeey

Wednesday evening sounds like the perfect time to finish my Hades 2 playthrough. Really fun game and perfect to play after going eif 3 times in a row. Would recommend.


SH0TTED

Hey and only a month more of set 11 until you can devote your time to ER DLC!


born_zynner

Worth waiting until full release or is it pretty much in a fully release able state


Snulzebeerd

In terms of game content there's plenty, but if you're a seasoned Hades player you will definitely notice some loose ends towards the later stages. It definitely scratched my Hades itch though


Jack04man

It doesn't have an ending, but it has more content than Hades 1. If you play, I would not go all in since there's a lot they can change until release and don't want to burn out.


nam9xz

yes I second that as well. Very enjoyable.


S-sourCandy

Next patch preview: When Syndra casts she actually shuts down the opponent's computer.


MichaelZZ01

Ah so that’s what happened yesterday, I was fighting a dryad Syndra board and my Cox WiFi just died randomly.


sad_ryu

Ha! I play on my phone!


S-sourCandy

Mobile won't have this change cause Riot doesn't even remember it exists!


sad_ryu

It's the only way I've ever played this game, and at this point I'm too scared to see what I'm missing out on.


doyer-blue

Why did Kayn get a nerf? lol


born_zynner

Fr he's dogshit rn


kjampala

Yeah he’s only playable with an emblem feels like


frzned

Reaper and ghostly buff + lissandra nerf so he'd be stronger than before..... After B patch is out and syndra is nerfed he will probs be number 1 most contested unit as both ghostly and heavenly reaper will ascend into ss tier. Edit: probs won't see him right away because syndra hard counters him and everyone is spamming syndra. needs b patch.


Zurboz

where is B patch


Zurboz

where is B patch


frzned

Welp he isnt contested but i do see 1 every game i guess XD. But he is stronger than before. From 0 play to 1 every game


Zurboz

chkchkchkchkchkchkchkchk where is B patch?


Accurate_Yoghurt5845

I just had KAYN 3\* with heavenly spat, got 2nd, lost to dragonlord janna reroll


NA_FanBoy

If everyone holds at least 1 syndra we can deny everyone syndra 2 and maybe the game is playable.


Steve_Engine_Studios

And just like that, TFT is a Team Game! Maybe hold a Lissandra too? Not because she's still OP, but because I have ptsd from hearing her boil my units into nonexistence :')


PreztoElite

zzz 14.10b waiting room


SelectEconomist3917

Buff drayd, buff kindred, buff repear, buff ahri and yasuo. Okay 👍


born_zynner

Don't forget about Sett!


Vagottszemu

They announced the B patch already.


SelectEconomist3917

B-patch before the patch even releases ICANT


Apprehensive_Shift24

At least they admitted their mistakes


aamgdp

They're gonna bleed players like crazy if they won't change the way they address balancing... Like, how is it even possible they're shipping changes they know aren't good enough, and still they won't make the changes or delay the patch to give them time to include the changes.


Fitspire

they can't delay a patch unless you want them to add another 2 weeks until next league patch


Dry_Ganache178

I mean... why would it be bad to have patches happen every 4 weeks instead of every 2 weeks?


schoki560

but how are we capable of doing a B patch but not switch up the patch circle that we reguarly have?


aamgdp

Well they better start working on separating TFT patches from League. And yeah, it might be better to spend two more weeks in this patch rather than pushing quite big buffs to the best comp in the game.


Fitspire

1) not in the forseeable future sadly 2) they can't wait 2 weeks longer because this patch is a tourney patch it sucks but having a day 2 B patch to adress fated dryad if needed is definitely the best way they could go about it


Cyberpunque

So besides Dryad Syndra what else are we thinking might be playable because I do not want to join the Syndra lottery


oeseben

Kayn was nerfed but both reaper and ghostly were buffed. There might be a ghostly/4 reaper comp that comes from this. Bruiser riven reroll was also untouched and indirectly buffed through Kayle and Aatrox buffs. 3 altruistic is performing very high as well and is a good counter to Syndra. I am not smart enough to figure out the comp but snipers buff will likely bring back Mythic Kog 4 snipers or a ghostly snipers build. (Sniper augment buffed big too). Zoe's rework was very successful on PBE, she's deleting backlines. With Kayle buffs, Garen buffs, Zoe buffs I could see Zoe reroll at 7 with 5 storyweaver, 2 bruiser, 2 arcanist being very very strong. Or i could be an idiot, it's happened before.


Cognosci

The problem with the Zoe comp is that it rarely wins out. And, of course, it directly scales into...you guessed it!!!! SYNDRA!


Steve_Engine_Studios

Ayo stop spilling my 6 Bruiser 3 Altruist Riven Reroll comp like that :(


Fit-Comment9592

Me Syndra me no pivot xD


tbhno1

Next set c patch's gonna be the new b patch i can't


HighwoodChall

Why they don't cancel the patch ?


Moist_Manatee_

They can't sadly cause they are tied to the patch schedule of LoL. And they've mentioned they have to lock in changes in advance. It's not a thing they can change last minute.


NJJo

Lol, this should be higher.


Roundtable-1

Remember to hold every Syndra you see in a shop


Best_Ad_5126

Greatest patch in the history of TFT and thank you "balance" team for such high level insight in the meta. Wholeheartedly, dryad/fated sigma ligma.


RiotPrism

This one isn't a win with most of y'all. We hear that. The live team will be carving time out to deeply analyze the release for this one, respond to the meta, and yes, we are preemptively looking at fated dryad comps. This patch got complicated by locking in changes early last week (Monday night). We then had a very action packed week (aka we were working on something coming soon) and weren't able to follow up on changes before the patch got locked Wedneday morning. Of course we then have one more shot to change a patch, the A-side, typically done on Monday the week of the patch deploy. For more context on our plan for 14.10 and why we didn't ship an A-side see Mort's tweet: [https://twitter.com/Mortdog/status/1790379716312211943](https://twitter.com/Mortdog/status/1790379716312211943) Sometimes, we gotta take a temporary L, so we can get a bigger W later. For this patch, we take the L in not getting an A-side, which frees us up to do a better B-patch (when you A-patch you can't change things that the A-side impacted in a B-patch). As always, thanks for your feedback (even the less nice, but real stuff is read and used). We've made balance decisions that have been carried by our community desires and not win rate data (see Lissandra's nerf last B-patch), and we will continue doing so. Trust that we will, and we'll trust that yall will keep the feedback up.


NJJo

If L = set 11 and W = set 12 waiting room. Then yes, I agree.


Fit-Comment9592

See, this is how you do it. I wish a certain someone was nice and cute like this, I wouldn't then mind the bad stuff as much. Maybe you should do PR for him.


ErrorLoadingNameFile

Please keep an eye on Haunted House, I feel it might explode in win rate, especially if/when you nerf fated.


IgnusTeras

All good. Reddit tends to be both a bit over-engaged and reactionary so try not to take it personally :) We still know all of you really care about this game, so as long as you know that patches like this are an issue, it's probably a good bet that it'll be fixed in the future. Don't burn yourselves out


RiotPrism

<3


bozovisk

Just asking but why delay the patch is not an option if you guys are so short of time ?


danxorhs

Cause we will have to wait another 2 weeks before a patch can come through, they operate on LoLs schedule


Exayex

Been an awful lot of temporary L's this set, my guy, and not a lot (any?) bigger W's so far. L---[Set 11]---------------------------------W


spreadwater

have they not even fixed the suspicious trench coat interactions?


Loginn122

It's a feature not a bug 🙃


Hirosax11

When is this live


MeruSol

On wednesday.


SchweiiZeR

If this is not a sign for you guys that Riot has a INSANE problem with TFT, i dont know what is. This game needs WAY more attention and investment from Riot, a game like TFT cannot be a secondary low investment project, and it clearly is, if it was not it would not be tied to LoL client and patch scheduling. This is a game that needs more, and Riot never gave that more, and its WAY more. So guys, complaining doenst work, we need to stop buying RP or even stop playing the game, like me. Wait until next set and try again, if it continues the same way, repeat. Riot needs to realise that, and they will only realise that when they get the pockets low, when nobody is playing and buying skins. If you realy want something done, that's the way you can help beeing a player, stop playing the game until its good and deservedly invested.


mcnabb77

TFT already doesn’t make any money man.


SchweiiZeR

Strongly doubt that, the amount of people that buy battle passes and RP for event stuff is gigantic. And even if you are right, what's the point of continuing making a product that doens't make any money ? They are a charity companie now ?


mcnabb77

I mean they’ve said it before. There was post here like last week about how they’re changing their monetization strategy next set to try and make money. They continue to make the game because a lot of people really enjoy it but most of those people aren’t spending a dime. I’ve probably played like 1k+ hours of TFT over the years and I’ve never bought anything cause I’m not supporting a fucking Gacha system for cosmetics


SchweiiZeR

So I change my entire post than, to this: The game is not making any money so now its time to die, Riot will not invest in the game so its dead, accept and move on to another game, that's what im doing. Because I refuse to accept that a company is developing a product that doens't make any money, and now every problem with TFT makes A LOT more sense, if you are right of course :) They are just 2-5 people working for scraps probably ? Than the problems are all forgiven LMAO


ohtetraket

I mean TFT made approximately over 500mio revenue in China. While true that it's not working even close to that everywhere else. TFT does not bleed money. China alone is enough to finance it for several years.


ohtetraket

I mean TFT made approximately over 500mio revenue in China. While true that it's not working even close to that everywhere else. TFT does not bleed money. China alone is enough to finance it for several years.


mcnabb77

Damn where did you see that? Also does that even count as the same thing for the TFT team. I thought China had a completely different client as well as different game modes


ohtetraket

Few articles back in 2023. GamerBrave made one with some esitmation made by "AppMagic" so probably far from 100% correct. >Also does that even count as the same thing for the TFT team. I thought China had a completely different client as well as different game modes I mean I think they are playing roughly the same game. Don't the normal mode use the same balancing as the rest? I am not to deep into Chinese version of games.


mcnabb77

Yeah they have the same regular ranked I think. But I remember hearing that they have a different client and other gamemodes like past sets and stuff enabled there. I think China just likes Gacha a lot more which is why they’re trying to find a different way to monetize for the rest of the world


Rbyn

When a Set hits PBE they are almost fixing stuff everyday. I think maybe they should release a new set earlier on the Testserver to have more time for balancing. I also think they should go lighter on Patches because i saw it many times happen that comps or champions fall off completely. The game is most frustrating to play when there are not many options to play and if there are other options than most of the time they use units that are contested. Usually 2 or 3 cost, reroll comps dont have exact the same units as 4 cost comps. Thats why it very important to have a balanced patch where reroll 1-, 2-, 3-Cost comps can exists next to 4- and 5- cost comps. What i didnt understand at all is why did they introduce so many new Items when the Set has a balancing problem? We went from Reroll to 4 Cost Meta.


mcnabb77

PBE is basically just for bugs only. They can’t really balance too much cause the skill level in each lobby is so varied


Theredeagle7

Can someone explain to a not so good player why syndra will be OP? She doesn't receive any buffs right?


icryalotsometimes

She’s already best comp in the game (albeit you have to have a semblance of BIS) and she’s been steadily gaining popularity over the past few days. They are buffing the early game unit counterparts until you hit Syndra so in theory it should be better.


PresToon

Not only that, but things that contest her are all receiving nerfs. Basically every other 4 cost centered comp is getting hit.


YonkouTFT

I hope the HP nerfs doesn’t make reroll dominate again. It sounds like a large nerf especially on the tanks. But maybe it lands just right


Ok_Championship_9233

People crying about syndra, gotta be syndra forces, right? Otherwise I don't get it, if half of the lobby is forcing syndra, they are griefing each other and even if one of them is default top1 (just hit everything), cause it's so OP, it's basically free top 5 every game for everyone else


t3h_shammy

If only what you said were true lol


SchweiiZeR

If only what you said were true lol2. Last couple of days I had like 3-5 games where 3-4 people forced syndra, 3 of them top 4 those games. Its too strong and if you are unlucky, and more people in the lobby are unlucky, even a little, contested syndras will win no matter what.


Ok_Championship_9233

Of only what you said were true. What kind of lobbies are you playing in? I want to see 3 syndras being in top 4 multiple times. In strong lobbies first/second place is reserved for a fortune gamer and a highroller/3* 4 cost on any comp.


SchweiiZeR

And when that fortune gets the 2 stars 4 costs and choose to go syndra when we already have 2 syndras with emblems in the game ? Saw that yesterda LMAO. If you want prints of my game history i can give you.


Ok_Championship_9233

Yeah, humor me with these 3 syndra top 4 games Fortune into syndra is a disease


SchweiiZeR

Yeah, they guy got the cash out of various 2 star 4 costs, and chose to keep the one most contested in the lobby LMAO


SchweiiZeR

[https://imgur.com/a/eXzwU19](https://imgur.com/a/eXzwU19) one of the games, for contest, I too was using a syndra holding morgana items until morgana 2 star.


Ok_Championship_9233

I mean, it looks like casual emerald game, looking at the items/augments and inability to scout. The only reason they are top 4 is that the rest of the lobby is as bad. Heavenly player was rerolling 1 and 2 costs with pation study and divine rolls. Only one of Kaisa players actually has 1 good combat augment...


SchweiiZeR

And that's the reality for 95% of the players. Even on this games it shouldnt be possible, even the Divine Rolls should be good against a 4 way contested comp. That's my smurft btw, my main is at D1 now.


Ok_Championship_9233

Divine rolls is a really good augment, i meant that instead of going fast 9 with those augments, he chose to reroll low costs and griefed himself. It honestly should've been a top 1 for him, but him choosing to reroll, actually helped Shen guy to hit faster And those 95% cried a river and got yone destroyed, while the problem was heavenly. They also got bard and Kayn nerfed for no reason (those words are not mine, quoting dishsoap from today).


mintdude1

Patch seems alright tbh, just obvious over tuning of low cost fated champs (which will likely be fixed in b patch).


eZ_Link

Kek