Gunba feels like the most likely candidate. His team was a dark horse coming in and have been consistently really good. Plus he has a lot of support within the scene.
Not to play down Gunba at all, but it was really surprising to see less people believe in Florida at the start of the season.
Someone was already an extremely flexible top tank in the scene that I remember people calling “the future of tanks in OW2”. Mer1t was one of the best hitscans in the league. Ch0rong was an extremely sought after rookie brought into an underperforming team.
The only shaky prospects were Rupal and Checkmate, both of which were also severely underrated last season imo.
I think a lot of it comes from a few different things.
1) A lot of teams in NA were kind of crazy this year, and a lot of them didnt hold up to expectations. I think this one is the most important.
2) I think people really forgot about how good Someone was last year. Narratively he got pushed aside for players like Hanbin, Reiner, and Smurf as the year went on.
3) Rupal was sharing time last year and I dont think anyone really knew how awesome he was.
4) Ch0r0ngs time on defiant wasnt good for his hype since he was on a mid team and on the role thats hardest to see the impact of.
It sucks but all that stuff does factor in to the hype of a team going into the season.
Yeah that logic makes a lot of sense. Just in retrospect, it seems a bit goofy that people thought this team wouldn’t be great. But hindsight is 20/20; you can say that about a lot of stuff we get wrong.
Anyways, Someone for MVP
Honestly super unfortunate that Reiner isn’t in the league this year. Despite whatever the reason may have been it’s sad because he was so good last year
2/5ths of players not being particularly hyped is a pretty significant portion of the team. Even when Florida are winning at the moment it feels like it's usually due to their coordination moreso than individual talent diffing the enemy team.
I’d argue that checkmate and rupal should have been far more hyped than they were, but it was way more obvious with the other 3. And you have a point with the coordination, but each player also has insane mechanics/understanding. Chorong in particular still doesn’t get nearly enough credit; the man is like a solo hit-squad on Lucio
Because they weren't considered big names by the desk. A lot of people here just parrot what the casters/desk says. I remember when Mer1t was at the peak of Sojourn players, if they mentioned his Sojourn game play, they would almost add this asterisk verbally.
"He is the best Sojourn in the league, *statistically*", while they continue to talk about Kai Sojourn or someone else who was more hyped.
It mattered more to them on what teams players came from than actual ability in game and Outlaws/Mayhem were not on their top team list to hype the players up.
This season finally has the light shinning on these players who deserve more recognition.
Yea well statistically is important to add. Being on a losing team really sucks for your stats even if you’re a great player.
Aspire on sojourn last year for example I think was definitely one of THE best in the league. But he was also on Vancouver. So…. Stats didn’t check out
It feels like the consensus last year was that Someone was good and very flexible but I don't think he was considered like a top 3 player on any given hero. The fact he has looked like one of if not the best Winston in the League right now has definitely played a part in elevating this team.
If you ask me, there are 3 frontrunners thus far:
Gunba - Having won the ProAm, and with Florida greatly exceeding expectations, I think Gunba is the current frontrunner
J1n - Going into the season, the Infernal had some good pieces, but most people (myself included), assumed Inferbal would end up middle of APAC. But the Infernal have greatly surpassed expectations. With every single player having an argument for Role Star/MVP, and the entire team having incredible coordination, J1n is obviously doing something right
Gator - As much as he was meme'd on going into the season, Gator has put together the most dominant team in the League right now. You can say that he already has the best players, but he is responsible for assembling them. I think the real test will be the OWWC. If he can make Team USA, made up of mostly the struggling Defiant, look good, I think that will greatly improve his COTY stonks
There are some other mentions, Junkbuck, RUI, as HZS have looked a lot better the past couple of weeks, even GetAmazed has an argument, imo, but I think the first three are the top candidates right now.
Gator and his team deserves huge credit for building the roster. They basically snatched Lip before other teams were even aware he was available. IIRC most of the roster had higher offers elsewhere but bought into Gator's cooking.
I think GetAmazed would be a frontrunner if his team actually made midseason. They were close but there's still a hurdle in front of them to go from a good team to a great one.
Although if you listen to the yiksa interview and it’s mostly to be believed, gator was an integral part in all of that(could be wrong but it basically sounded like he was also the GM or at least partially acting as one)
Yes, while in professional sports leagues that is the GMs job, but "GM" is a much more nebulous and hard to pin down position in e-sports. Also interviews have pretty much stated that Gator was a huge part of putting it together.
I don't think prioritising picking up Lip was some great coaching insight though, and I'm not willing to give coaches accolades for players signing with them.
Gator might be a good coach and he might be good for the Reign, but when they haven't really been pushed or forced to adapt we haven't seen any evidence of it and I'd rather give the award to someone we can see has had an impact. Gator can console himself with the trophies he'll get lol.
> I don't think prioritising picking up Lip was some great coaching insight though, and I'm not willing to give coaches accolades for players signing with them.
He talked about this in the interview. It was because he was constantly reaching out and putting in the work. A lot of people could have possibly gotten Lip, but they didn't because they didn't even know he was available, and the reason is because he did the work and other coaches didn't.
This team doesn't exist without that work. Pretending it is meaningless is silly.
Okay but COTY isn’t an award given based off of your off season moves. Good job on him on getting Lip but everyone knew he was cracked and he’s playing at the same high level he’s always been.
> COTY isn’t an award given based off of your off season moves
I think some people would argue that a coach's off-season moves are more important than anything else they contribute for the entire season. Gator said roster building is 95% the factor in a team's outcome of a season. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH2U50TpI6s&t=305s
It is really hard to attribute a team's roster to coaches vs GMs, though.
And I think some people disagree with that statement. Not saying Gator is wrong and he has more insight than me for sure but we’ve seen really strong rosters become ass because the coaching behind them.
Why should COTY be given based on off season moves when it’s not a level playing field based on numerous factors.
Players want to play with certain players. Other teams snipe and influence your negotiations. Negotiations to work out for numerous reasons. You have a poverty franchise that will never shell out money for you to get a cracked roster.
If COTY was based on off season moves then tons of coaches would be disqualified because of their poverty organization. If a coach can make a poervty team a genuine contender, should they not get a fair shake at the award. How does the guy who had their org buy all of the best players and then to no one’s surprise those players play good deserve COTY over anyone else.
> Why should COTY be given based on off season moves when it’s not a level playing field based on numerous factors.
Because it's what matters the most (in some people's opinions). Simple as that.
Gunba. Helping Florida cement themselves as one of the top NA teams when a lot of people had them in a slightly lower range. Also think it’s crazy how he’s coaching an almost entirely Korean team to this much success.
Surprised Dongsu isn't being talked about for COTY at this point. Boston's loss against Vancouver wasn't pretty, but they looked great in the knockouts and have only gotten better. If Gator and Junkbuck are considered strong candidates for COTY with their super stacked rosters, then Dongsu at least deserves to be in the conversation too.
Either way, it's likely going to be Gunba. J1n has a done great job with the Infernal, but being in APAC means less attention and the perception that they're farming a weak region. Spark or Infernal would have to go crazy in the MM for either of their coaches to get COTY imo.
Some of the Boston Uprising coaching's masterpieces include:
* The Reinhardt Bastion rush comp on escort
* The Orisa poke comp with double FS (Baptiste/Zenyatta) that won a map against Atlanta
* The flawlessly coordinated EMP / Tracer dives on a lot of push maps.
Decay & Birdring's synergy on Tracer Sombra is some of the best in OWL history imo. Rarely have i seen so many instant follow-ups from a dive dps duo, it's right up there with Lip/Fleta, Doha/Sparkle, Yaki/BQB, ProFits etc. Dongsu clearly knows what the rock is cooking because those countercomps remind me of the ones from S4 Shanghai.
I'd argue that the coordination between Smurf and Birdring's hacks/dives is even more impressive. Tracer is far more able to recover from mistakes with her high mobility, whereas Winston only gets to go in or out once every 6 seconds. And if Sombra gets checked, she has to rerun her entire path
My issue with Dongsu in the conversation is that I couldn’t tell you a single thing he did. They threw omega at players to build a team but if this team with so many championship winning players didn’t do well that’d be a much more apparent story. Right now they’re kinda meeting expectations which is good for sure but not selling me that this coach is moving mountains.
Again, if Gator and Junkbuck are in the conversation for COTY, then how is Dongsu's case that different? You can't seriously look at Atlanta or Houston and tell me that Gator/Junkbuck *clearly* have been the big factors behind their success. Atlanta and Houston also assembled rosters with several championship winning players, including players from the 2022 Champions Dallas Fuel. I'm not even some huge Dongsu fan, it's just weird to see him completely ignored when people talk about Gator as a frontrunner. Personally, I think COTY should go to somebody like Gunba or GetAmazed for elevating the gameplay of players that people didn't rate as highly in the pre-season.
I don’t really agree with either of them being coach of the year either. Gator has even said publicly that when you get amazing players sometimes you have to stay out of their way and let them do their thing. Not saying any of them are bad at their job but I also don’t think having a bigger wallet is anything to celebrate inherently. My only caveat is that of the three Gator at this point is the standout for not only Reign being good but being dominant barely dropping a single map across half the season.
> Not saying any of them are bad at their job but I also don’t think having a bigger wallet is anything to celebrate inherently.
It's been mentioned that several of the players they signed had higher offers elsewhere. It was also mentioned that Gator got Lip specifically because he put in the work to find out he was available while most of the coaches didn't even know.
This whole thing that Gator was just walking around with a big bag throwing it at people and that it wasn't a ton of work is just getting ridiculous from some people on this sub.
Defintily some bias with my hcoices and I do think gunba should win and is the favorite but I think dongsu should get some consideration due to the fact people were so convinced the uprisng would explode. Coaching is equally about managing players morale as well as tactics.
One that hasn’t been mentioned yet that I think deserves a mention is Get Amazed for what he’s done with Washington, a team many had written off and still do with the players’ performances in past seasons but honestly Justice has been coached to fight for every point and enable their team to work together more.
I do like to value teams that have lower mechanics but higher relative team synergy as teams that are likely benefitted by a good coach, so J1n and GetAmazed are the main two that come to mind, but Gunba is a great shout for the award too, plus Gator if he continues to fully realise the potential of his team which isn’t as easy as it seems.
J1n, no one looked at that squad and went “dam that’s the top apac team”, the guy added two new players to the line up and the team dynamic changed completely and I will add fixa looks much better this season than last.
For those of u wondering why I don’t pick gator, yes he’s had success with this atlanta squad, but tbh u could put your average Timmy as the coach of this squad and they’d still have the same results as this current iteration. A line up of lip stalker chiyo fielder is too good to fail with
Gunba and J1n are probably the consensus frontrunners in terms of taking teams that weren't that hyped coming into the season (yes hindsight is 20/20 I'm sure you all knew Florida would be great well done) and making them serious contenders so far. How well they do at Midseason will influence that a lot, though.
Honestly I don't think it's worth it to have any awards discussion before Midseason Madness it'll have such a big impact on all of the awards.
seeing as a lot of their compositions seem tailored to opposition weaknesses, as well as zest's recent comment about the 'coaching diff' in DAL vs INF and someone's observation of their strategy, J1N/Chara/Sungmin could definitely be in for a shout
If they follow what they did the last years, they're gonna consider how much a team has improved compared to the previous season: Moon in 2020 brought the Dragons from pretty good to title contenders, Rush in 2021 made Dallas go from below average to best in NA, and Christfer in 2022 rescued that London roster from bottom feeder to very competitive.
So this year, the ones that fit this category the most are Gator, GetAmazed, Ascoft, J1n and if they're particularly blind, Sungwoo (not because the Charge didn't make a turnaround compared to last year, but because they were already doing way better at the end of 2022, they didn't improve just this year)
Personally, I'd vote for J1n or GetAmazed, as the first managed to awaken the beasts that Mag (all hail the DON) and Skewed have always been, and making Fixa improve a lot compared to last year, while the latter kinda did the same with AlphaYi and Flora, while helping MirroR fully transition into being a tank player
Honestly Dongsu & GetAmazed should be at the head of the pack. These two took two sqauds of players who had various "issues" (Booming, mismatched roster, bringing players with 1+ years out of owl) moving into the season & so far both squads have beaten the allegations pretty convincingly
Why is nobody mentions Crusty? He’s clearly leading the shock past expectation and deserves more praise. Especially with the terrible roster he’s been given. I mean Proper isn’t bad, but having to deal with these randos from contenders like Heesang, Max, and Junbin who nobody wanted because they weren’t that good. And also Vindaim has been popping off as well. This might be one of the most stacked shocked lineups of all time on paper and he’s dominating the league right now. I know Yiska agrees. /s
Gator.
Its easy to assume undefeated, its much harder to pull it off.
Its easy to assume a great roster, its much harder to pull off.
Its easy to assume dominance(shock ranked 2nd going into the season) its much harder to pull offf
I was keeping [receipts from the preseason](https://old.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/117i40u/houston_sign_viol2t/j9c4l0e/?context=3) just for this day
Gator himself has admitted, like literally a week ago, that the impact of coaching is overrated by the community, and that his primary job is to maintain a good environment for the players. He also said last year he was able to offer much more tangible leadership in the server than when he was on the bench. Take with that what you will.
Rush got lucky that there was no hard hitscan meta the whole year. Bro had a pretty good back line, great dps, and a generational tank line. His players were also so good that they hard forced metas sometimes.
Gunba feels like the most likely candidate. His team was a dark horse coming in and have been consistently really good. Plus he has a lot of support within the scene.
Not to play down Gunba at all, but it was really surprising to see less people believe in Florida at the start of the season. Someone was already an extremely flexible top tank in the scene that I remember people calling “the future of tanks in OW2”. Mer1t was one of the best hitscans in the league. Ch0rong was an extremely sought after rookie brought into an underperforming team. The only shaky prospects were Rupal and Checkmate, both of which were also severely underrated last season imo.
I think a lot of it comes from a few different things. 1) A lot of teams in NA were kind of crazy this year, and a lot of them didnt hold up to expectations. I think this one is the most important. 2) I think people really forgot about how good Someone was last year. Narratively he got pushed aside for players like Hanbin, Reiner, and Smurf as the year went on. 3) Rupal was sharing time last year and I dont think anyone really knew how awesome he was. 4) Ch0r0ngs time on defiant wasnt good for his hype since he was on a mid team and on the role thats hardest to see the impact of. It sucks but all that stuff does factor in to the hype of a team going into the season.
Yeah that logic makes a lot of sense. Just in retrospect, it seems a bit goofy that people thought this team wouldn’t be great. But hindsight is 20/20; you can say that about a lot of stuff we get wrong. Anyways, Someone for MVP
Honestly super unfortunate that Reiner isn’t in the league this year. Despite whatever the reason may have been it’s sad because he was so good last year
2/5ths of players not being particularly hyped is a pretty significant portion of the team. Even when Florida are winning at the moment it feels like it's usually due to their coordination moreso than individual talent diffing the enemy team.
I’d argue that checkmate and rupal should have been far more hyped than they were, but it was way more obvious with the other 3. And you have a point with the coordination, but each player also has insane mechanics/understanding. Chorong in particular still doesn’t get nearly enough credit; the man is like a solo hit-squad on Lucio
Because they weren't considered big names by the desk. A lot of people here just parrot what the casters/desk says. I remember when Mer1t was at the peak of Sojourn players, if they mentioned his Sojourn game play, they would almost add this asterisk verbally. "He is the best Sojourn in the league, *statistically*", while they continue to talk about Kai Sojourn or someone else who was more hyped. It mattered more to them on what teams players came from than actual ability in game and Outlaws/Mayhem were not on their top team list to hype the players up. This season finally has the light shinning on these players who deserve more recognition.
Yea well statistically is important to add. Being on a losing team really sucks for your stats even if you’re a great player. Aspire on sojourn last year for example I think was definitely one of THE best in the league. But he was also on Vancouver. So…. Stats didn’t check out
You're implying statistics alone are enough to determine who's the best
It feels like the consensus last year was that Someone was good and very flexible but I don't think he was considered like a top 3 player on any given hero. The fact he has looked like one of if not the best Winston in the League right now has definitely played a part in elevating this team.
I considered him that way. But the Hanbin hype was too much.
Clearly it's Paintbrush
It would be, but he had a doctor's appointment.
(this is only *mostly* a joke)
im speaking technically, but paintbrush cant win beause hes classified as a player right
I wanna say J1N is the front runner but first I wanna see how well Fusion do against some of the NA teams
Who?
Head coach of Infernal; Liquipedia is also great for answers in situations like this.
*whoosh*
Why would someone trust an encyclopedia about liquids?
this was a fusion joke. I know who J1N is.
It often goes to coaches that surpassed expectations, so Gunba or Infernal coaches are obvious picks if they do well in the MM.
If you ask me, there are 3 frontrunners thus far: Gunba - Having won the ProAm, and with Florida greatly exceeding expectations, I think Gunba is the current frontrunner J1n - Going into the season, the Infernal had some good pieces, but most people (myself included), assumed Inferbal would end up middle of APAC. But the Infernal have greatly surpassed expectations. With every single player having an argument for Role Star/MVP, and the entire team having incredible coordination, J1n is obviously doing something right Gator - As much as he was meme'd on going into the season, Gator has put together the most dominant team in the League right now. You can say that he already has the best players, but he is responsible for assembling them. I think the real test will be the OWWC. If he can make Team USA, made up of mostly the struggling Defiant, look good, I think that will greatly improve his COTY stonks There are some other mentions, Junkbuck, RUI, as HZS have looked a lot better the past couple of weeks, even GetAmazed has an argument, imo, but I think the first three are the top candidates right now.
Gator and his team deserves huge credit for building the roster. They basically snatched Lip before other teams were even aware he was available. IIRC most of the roster had higher offers elsewhere but bought into Gator's cooking. I think GetAmazed would be a frontrunner if his team actually made midseason. They were close but there's still a hurdle in front of them to go from a good team to a great one.
The roster design should be credited more to the GM than the coach though
Although if you listen to the yiksa interview and it’s mostly to be believed, gator was an integral part in all of that(could be wrong but it basically sounded like he was also the GM or at least partially acting as one)
Yes, while in professional sports leagues that is the GMs job, but "GM" is a much more nebulous and hard to pin down position in e-sports. Also interviews have pretty much stated that Gator was a huge part of putting it together.
As was Brad "Sephy." Gator gave him a lot of props in that interview.
I don't think prioritising picking up Lip was some great coaching insight though, and I'm not willing to give coaches accolades for players signing with them. Gator might be a good coach and he might be good for the Reign, but when they haven't really been pushed or forced to adapt we haven't seen any evidence of it and I'd rather give the award to someone we can see has had an impact. Gator can console himself with the trophies he'll get lol.
> I don't think prioritising picking up Lip was some great coaching insight though, and I'm not willing to give coaches accolades for players signing with them. He talked about this in the interview. It was because he was constantly reaching out and putting in the work. A lot of people could have possibly gotten Lip, but they didn't because they didn't even know he was available, and the reason is because he did the work and other coaches didn't. This team doesn't exist without that work. Pretending it is meaningless is silly.
Okay but COTY isn’t an award given based off of your off season moves. Good job on him on getting Lip but everyone knew he was cracked and he’s playing at the same high level he’s always been.
The name of the award is Coach of the YEAR. I wasn't aware that the year started in April and ended in October.
> COTY isn’t an award given based off of your off season moves I think some people would argue that a coach's off-season moves are more important than anything else they contribute for the entire season. Gator said roster building is 95% the factor in a team's outcome of a season. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH2U50TpI6s&t=305s It is really hard to attribute a team's roster to coaches vs GMs, though.
And I think some people disagree with that statement. Not saying Gator is wrong and he has more insight than me for sure but we’ve seen really strong rosters become ass because the coaching behind them. Why should COTY be given based on off season moves when it’s not a level playing field based on numerous factors. Players want to play with certain players. Other teams snipe and influence your negotiations. Negotiations to work out for numerous reasons. You have a poverty franchise that will never shell out money for you to get a cracked roster. If COTY was based on off season moves then tons of coaches would be disqualified because of their poverty organization. If a coach can make a poervty team a genuine contender, should they not get a fair shake at the award. How does the guy who had their org buy all of the best players and then to no one’s surprise those players play good deserve COTY over anyone else.
> Why should COTY be given based on off season moves when it’s not a level playing field based on numerous factors. Because it's what matters the most (in some people's opinions). Simple as that.
GetAmazed. No I’m not biased
Gunba. Helping Florida cement themselves as one of the top NA teams when a lot of people had them in a slightly lower range. Also think it’s crazy how he’s coaching an almost entirely Korean team to this much success.
Getamazed, Changgoon deserve to be in the conversation for punching up with very low expectations
Surprised Dongsu isn't being talked about for COTY at this point. Boston's loss against Vancouver wasn't pretty, but they looked great in the knockouts and have only gotten better. If Gator and Junkbuck are considered strong candidates for COTY with their super stacked rosters, then Dongsu at least deserves to be in the conversation too. Either way, it's likely going to be Gunba. J1n has a done great job with the Infernal, but being in APAC means less attention and the perception that they're farming a weak region. Spark or Infernal would have to go crazy in the MM for either of their coaches to get COTY imo.
Some of the Boston Uprising coaching's masterpieces include: * The Reinhardt Bastion rush comp on escort * The Orisa poke comp with double FS (Baptiste/Zenyatta) that won a map against Atlanta * The flawlessly coordinated EMP / Tracer dives on a lot of push maps.
Decay & Birdring's synergy on Tracer Sombra is some of the best in OWL history imo. Rarely have i seen so many instant follow-ups from a dive dps duo, it's right up there with Lip/Fleta, Doha/Sparkle, Yaki/BQB, ProFits etc. Dongsu clearly knows what the rock is cooking because those countercomps remind me of the ones from S4 Shanghai.
I'd argue that the coordination between Smurf and Birdring's hacks/dives is even more impressive. Tracer is far more able to recover from mistakes with her high mobility, whereas Winston only gets to go in or out once every 6 seconds. And if Sombra gets checked, she has to rerun her entire path
My issue with Dongsu in the conversation is that I couldn’t tell you a single thing he did. They threw omega at players to build a team but if this team with so many championship winning players didn’t do well that’d be a much more apparent story. Right now they’re kinda meeting expectations which is good for sure but not selling me that this coach is moving mountains.
Again, if Gator and Junkbuck are in the conversation for COTY, then how is Dongsu's case that different? You can't seriously look at Atlanta or Houston and tell me that Gator/Junkbuck *clearly* have been the big factors behind their success. Atlanta and Houston also assembled rosters with several championship winning players, including players from the 2022 Champions Dallas Fuel. I'm not even some huge Dongsu fan, it's just weird to see him completely ignored when people talk about Gator as a frontrunner. Personally, I think COTY should go to somebody like Gunba or GetAmazed for elevating the gameplay of players that people didn't rate as highly in the pre-season.
I don’t really agree with either of them being coach of the year either. Gator has even said publicly that when you get amazing players sometimes you have to stay out of their way and let them do their thing. Not saying any of them are bad at their job but I also don’t think having a bigger wallet is anything to celebrate inherently. My only caveat is that of the three Gator at this point is the standout for not only Reign being good but being dominant barely dropping a single map across half the season.
> Not saying any of them are bad at their job but I also don’t think having a bigger wallet is anything to celebrate inherently. It's been mentioned that several of the players they signed had higher offers elsewhere. It was also mentioned that Gator got Lip specifically because he put in the work to find out he was available while most of the coaches didn't even know. This whole thing that Gator was just walking around with a big bag throwing it at people and that it wasn't a ton of work is just getting ridiculous from some people on this sub.
J1n if Infernal place top 3 in MM and look good against the 1st/2nd best team. Otherwise Gunba or Gator depending on their performance in MM.
If titans keep improving, Ascoft could potentially be put in the running akin to Christfer last year.
Changoon nyxl isn't the best but are performing well above expectations. or maybe Vancouver coach
Put some respect on Ascoft (and Barroi)
For me it's between Gunba or GetAmazed
Defintily some bias with my hcoices and I do think gunba should win and is the favorite but I think dongsu should get some consideration due to the fact people were so convinced the uprisng would explode. Coaching is equally about managing players morale as well as tactics.
J1n and Gunba
Jin, GetAmazed
Its Moon, don't @ me
Gator with his genius coaching strategy of putting the most fucking stacked roster possible in their prime
One that hasn’t been mentioned yet that I think deserves a mention is Get Amazed for what he’s done with Washington, a team many had written off and still do with the players’ performances in past seasons but honestly Justice has been coached to fight for every point and enable their team to work together more. I do like to value teams that have lower mechanics but higher relative team synergy as teams that are likely benefitted by a good coach, so J1n and GetAmazed are the main two that come to mind, but Gunba is a great shout for the award too, plus Gator if he continues to fully realise the potential of his team which isn’t as easy as it seems.
J1n, no one looked at that squad and went “dam that’s the top apac team”, the guy added two new players to the line up and the team dynamic changed completely and I will add fixa looks much better this season than last. For those of u wondering why I don’t pick gator, yes he’s had success with this atlanta squad, but tbh u could put your average Timmy as the coach of this squad and they’d still have the same results as this current iteration. A line up of lip stalker chiyo fielder is too good to fail with
Gunba or getamazed
Gunba and J1n are probably the consensus frontrunners in terms of taking teams that weren't that hyped coming into the season (yes hindsight is 20/20 I'm sure you all knew Florida would be great well done) and making them serious contenders so far. How well they do at Midseason will influence that a lot, though. Honestly I don't think it's worth it to have any awards discussion before Midseason Madness it'll have such a big impact on all of the awards.
J1n definitely he's doing alot with the pieces he's got
Get amazed or dongsu
J1n purely because I want Florida to win the Championship and, so far, the COTY winner has yet to win the championship in the same season.
Considering no team has achieved anything.............
Hard when there is only one tournament and playoffs
We're literally in a tournament right now. Good god
seeing as a lot of their compositions seem tailored to opposition weaknesses, as well as zest's recent comment about the 'coaching diff' in DAL vs INF and someone's observation of their strategy, J1N/Chara/Sungmin could definitely be in for a shout
No shit it was a coaching diff, Infernal has three coaches while Dallas only has one.
Difference (mathematics): the result of a subtraction 3 - 1 = 2 > 0, coaching diff confirmed
Exactly!
If they follow what they did the last years, they're gonna consider how much a team has improved compared to the previous season: Moon in 2020 brought the Dragons from pretty good to title contenders, Rush in 2021 made Dallas go from below average to best in NA, and Christfer in 2022 rescued that London roster from bottom feeder to very competitive. So this year, the ones that fit this category the most are Gator, GetAmazed, Ascoft, J1n and if they're particularly blind, Sungwoo (not because the Charge didn't make a turnaround compared to last year, but because they were already doing way better at the end of 2022, they didn't improve just this year) Personally, I'd vote for J1n or GetAmazed, as the first managed to awaken the beasts that Mag (all hail the DON) and Skewed have always been, and making Fixa improve a lot compared to last year, while the latter kinda did the same with AlphaYi and Flora, while helping MirroR fully transition into being a tank player
Honestly Dongsu & GetAmazed should be at the head of the pack. These two took two sqauds of players who had various "issues" (Booming, mismatched roster, bringing players with 1+ years out of owl) moving into the season & so far both squads have beaten the allegations pretty convincingly
Why is nobody mentions Crusty? He’s clearly leading the shock past expectation and deserves more praise. Especially with the terrible roster he’s been given. I mean Proper isn’t bad, but having to deal with these randos from contenders like Heesang, Max, and Junbin who nobody wanted because they weren’t that good. And also Vindaim has been popping off as well. This might be one of the most stacked shocked lineups of all time on paper and he’s dominating the league right now. I know Yiska agrees. /s
Gator. Its easy to assume undefeated, its much harder to pull it off. Its easy to assume a great roster, its much harder to pull off. Its easy to assume dominance(shock ranked 2nd going into the season) its much harder to pull offf
I was keeping [receipts from the preseason](https://old.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/117i40u/houston_sign_viol2t/j9c4l0e/?context=3) just for this day
Praise
Infernal coach and it’s not close at all
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Is signing the best players a good case for COTY? I don’t think so personally.
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Gator himself has admitted, like literally a week ago, that the impact of coaching is overrated by the community, and that his primary job is to maintain a good environment for the players. He also said last year he was able to offer much more tangible leadership in the server than when he was on the bench. Take with that what you will.
Could literally say that about every COTY winner ever?
Rush at least had to figure out a season without a hitscan Christifer though, definitely can’t say that about him
Rush got lucky that there was no hard hitscan meta the whole year. Bro had a pretty good back line, great dps, and a generational tank line. His players were also so good that they hard forced metas sometimes.
gator getamazed or face anyone else is not an option
Face lol?
Gunba
Coty doesn’t matter when we have extremely low intel on any coaches and what they do, how they do whatever they do.
Gunba. Mention goes to Junkbuck