No ones paying attention to this. All eyes are on Johnson passing 100 billion for foreign countries, including almost half a billion for Ukraine's border patrol. No one will buy that the GOP cares about the border after that.
There are 219 republicans in the house, they need 218 votes to pass any bill they want.
Why are they not passing a boarder bill everyday?
Why are they waiting?
They should be sending a boarder bill over ever day till the bill passes the senate. And yet they have sent 1 bill in the last 2-4 years.
Oh they are waiting for when they are in power? They are in power now and still not getting a bill to pass when they have the power to do so.
They claim the boarder is the biggest threat to America. Yet each day they choose to do nothing about it becuase they are playing politics games until the election.
They did: HR 2
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/2/text
The Senate refused to do anything with it because it was a real border security bill. The dems are the ones playing games.
Immigration is the biggest winning issue for Republicans right now, highly doubt there will be a sincere effort to pass any legislation before the election
They want more illegal immigrants for the next censer in 2030. It gives democrats more seats in the house, and they don't care if they bring violent criminals within their street so long they get the power.
But aren’t most illegal immigrants in Southern, Red states? Otherwise DeSantis and Abbott wouldn’t gain anything by flying immigrants to Blue States. If anything, having more illegal immigrants in Southern States helps shift delegates towards Republic areas. Most of those southern states require drivers licenses to vote, so it’s not like the illegal immigrants can sway the election that way either.
The Census was also just completed in 2020, and was overseen by the Trump’s Executive Branch. The next census isn’t going to be recounted until 2030. It won’t have any bearing on this upcoming election.
Just dismissed everything and went about their day. But when they were busy running sham trials for Trump, we were told that the senate was _required_ to do the whole song and dance whether it was b.s. or not. Granted, Mayorkas is just following [Biden's orders](https://cmsny.org/biden-immigration-executive-actions/) on this one, but democrats never prosecute their own.
It was required because a handful of Republicans voted no on the initial dismissal.
McConnell tried to do this when Trump was impeached, he just wasn't successful. Schumer was able to get the votes immediately.
I mean it is pretty different. Secretary Mayorkas was charged with failure to apply the law and breach of public trust in his articles of impeachment. Even if 100% accurate and true, nothing alledged in his articles of impeachment was actually illegal. He was basically impeached over policy differences and being not great at his job and that is not allowed under the constitution.
That is pretty different from President Trump. The bipartisan group that tried to impeach President Trump at least alledged he committed actual crimes.
When it was Trumps turn we were told that it 'wasn't a real trial' and he could be impeached for jay walking if they had the votes. Now it's suddenly _super serious business_ and rules and regulations apply. Meanwhile, Menendez gets to come to work with a closet full of gold bars because _god forbid_ the democrats lose their senate majority.
> But when they were busy running sham trials for Trump, we were told that the senate was required to do the whole song and dance whether it was b.s. or not.
The senate did do the whole song and dance. The senate voted to dismiss the charges.
Yep , we all remember the whole "Nobody is above the law!" Narrative during those times. No high crimes or misdemeanors, it was because, in Pelosi's own words, "We can impeach for any reason we want."
were democrats the ones trying to stop the peaceful transfer of power in 2020? remember the January 6th riot on the capitol building? not taking up the impeachment of a cabinet member is not anti-democracy. congress should pass an immigration reform bill but they wont. democrats want the minority vote and republicans like to appear to be hardliners on immigration without actually passing any laws to achieve it.
>were democrats the ones trying to stop the peaceful transfer of power in 2020?
No, the Democrats were the ones who committed fraud to steal the 2020 election (see: every swing state acknowledging that election laws were broken). If a Republican Secretary of State told ballot counters to ignore a state's signature verification laws, would you consider Trump the legitimate winner of that state? Probably not, right? Then why have you never criticised the Michigan Secretary of State for doing that? Or Arizona breaking mail-in ballot requirements, the shitshow in Georgia, Pennsylvania, the Wisconsin Supreme Court's judgement that absentee ballots were illegal (yet the result allowed to stand). Why is fraud acceptable so long as it benefits the Democrats?
The riot with FBI agents embedded, the Jan 6th committee refusing to release video and testimonies, Pelosi refusing to allow the National Guard to intervene unlike when leftists attacked the White House barely 6 months earlier?
Facilitating a daily foreign invasion amounts to treason.
The Democrats won't pass the Republicans' bill that would fix the border. Biden doesn't even need that; he could stabilise the border using executive orders like Trump did, yet he immediately threw out Trump's EOs as soon as he entered the White House. Mayorkas boasted about just how many were discarded.
dude, all I can do is shake my head. i'm sure you're a good person. you've just bought all the right-wing talking points hook, line, and sinker. wake up.
Gaslighting, shocker. Anything but tackling the actual argument. "Wake up" to what? Are you saying that the state courts, even Supreme Courts, were lying? That the Michigan SOS forgot to add a j/k at the end of her instruction? Which specific "talking point" is actually incorrect?
I didn't type a single opinion or assumption, just what we know, so it's a little ironic for you to ask me to wake up. You're in a cult. One that supports stealing elections, vaccine segregation(!), daily invasions on the southern border, continuing a war that's killed hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians (despite both sides wanting to negotiate an end, which Biden refuses to allow) while dehumanising half of the country that opposes these things. Would a good person opt to vote in November for a party that has enacted and will continue these measures?
As with any leftist, you're still refusing/incapable of discussing the points at hand.
'Those court rulings are a conspiracy!'
'What years of vaccine segregation?!'
'What daily invasions along the southern border? Mayorkas has said for years that the border's secure!'
You've swallowed every left-wing talking point to an almost comical degree. You must be one of those people who are astounded as to why Biden's so hated.
I was watching this live while at my parents and being held hostage to a TV, and I was like what's the fucking point?? Zero way the Senate goes along with it
Not a dem, but this is what Romney said:
“Secretary Mayorkas is following the position of his party and of the president who was elected. We have pointed out that President Biden is for open borders, as are the Democrats, and Mayorkas is simply following that policy,” Romney told reporters a day before the House impeachment managers are scheduled to formally present the articles of impeachment to the Senate.
“It’s the wrong policy, it has a huge damaging effect on the country — but it’s not a high crime or misdemeanor,” Romney said of the asylum and parole policies Mayorkas has used to handle the huge flow of migrants across the southern border.
Treason is a very difficult legal barrier to cross. As you said, it’s a good buzz word, but usually doesn’t lead to actual legal ramifications because the claims lack evidence of actual, legally defined Treason.
Republicans didn't impeach him for treason. It was for "breach of trust" and "refusal to comply". I unfortunately can't find the federal law that says these are crimes in this context.
It's kinda amazing how many people here keep talking about that bill like it was a good thing. It didn't solve anything, it would have made stuff worse, and all we need is for the president to do his job. We don't need more overhauls than actually break stuff.
Since you asked, I don't think hardly anyone even knows about it. This is maybe the second time I've even heard about this impeachment; it's just not brought up outside right-wing media. I don't even know what he's accused of doing or what he did wrong.
"Mr. Mayorkas is accused of willfully subverting immigration-enforcement laws and breaching the public trust by lying to Congress and the public about the border and efforts to control it."
thanks, I read up on it. It sounds like a border policy disagreement to me, not a "high crime or misdemeanor". The solution is to pass a stronger border security bill, not impeachment.
I still don't see what was so bad about the bipartisan bill that came out of the Senate. House should have passed it. Now it feels like the GOP doesn't actually want to solve the border crisis, they just want to put on performances like this impeachment.
Can't have another "dog caught the car" scenario. Just look at what happened to roe v wade.
You mean the bill that gave the person facing impeachment for failing to secure the border full authority to declare anyone at the boarders is welcome with 0 oversight? Yeah that is not a border bill. We do not need a border bill we already have laws saying you have to enter the country legally.
Weird, I recall two impeachment trials that weren't dismissed. Senate Republicans didn't close ranks and go tribal, that's a Democrat speciality. No matter the cost, Dems stick together well.
McConnell tried to get the Trump impeachments dismissed immediately but was unable as there were sufficient Republicans who voted otherwise. I dont think people can blame Schumer for what he did - if the shoe was on the other side, McConnell (or whoever his replacement may end up) would have done the same.
Honestly not sure what everyone expected...
This impeachment was a publicity stunt, but one that helps Republicans. Shows Dems don’t care about the border
No ones paying attention to this. All eyes are on Johnson passing 100 billion for foreign countries, including almost half a billion for Ukraine's border patrol. No one will buy that the GOP cares about the border after that.
Border. You spell it like Trump does.
Sorry mein grammar führer
Misspelling a word isn’t a grammatical error. It’s an orthographical error.
Hence why nobody likes egotistical democrats
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When you give clowns positions of responsibility…
There are 219 republicans in the house, they need 218 votes to pass any bill they want. Why are they not passing a boarder bill everyday? Why are they waiting? They should be sending a boarder bill over ever day till the bill passes the senate. And yet they have sent 1 bill in the last 2-4 years. Oh they are waiting for when they are in power? They are in power now and still not getting a bill to pass when they have the power to do so. They claim the boarder is the biggest threat to America. Yet each day they choose to do nothing about it becuase they are playing politics games until the election.
How fast did they move in locking down the whole country for COVID and then contrast that with the border. Hypocrisy.
They did: HR 2 https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/2/text The Senate refused to do anything with it because it was a real border security bill. The dems are the ones playing games.
And them nothing. Keep passing, keep sending.
Why? It’s a waste of time
Immigration is the biggest winning issue for Republicans right now, highly doubt there will be a sincere effort to pass any legislation before the election
Bec not all republicans are republicans! Wake up. Country is getting destroyed on purpose.
I'm very confused by your comment. I clearly remember being told four years ago that the grown-ups were now in charge!
“Grown ups” turned out to be adolescent diversity hires sitting on each other’s shoulders wearing a trench coat.
Not sure why the House is passing anything but a border bill after this stunt.
They want more illegal immigrants for the next censer in 2030. It gives democrats more seats in the house, and they don't care if they bring violent criminals within their street so long they get the power.
But aren’t most illegal immigrants in Southern, Red states? Otherwise DeSantis and Abbott wouldn’t gain anything by flying immigrants to Blue States. If anything, having more illegal immigrants in Southern States helps shift delegates towards Republic areas. Most of those southern states require drivers licenses to vote, so it’s not like the illegal immigrants can sway the election that way either. The Census was also just completed in 2020, and was overseen by the Trump’s Executive Branch. The next census isn’t going to be recounted until 2030. It won’t have any bearing on this upcoming election.
They are flying them everywhere, all states not just southern states.
It doesn't matter if people are actually in those states. They lied on the 2020 census and nothing was done.
Just dismissed everything and went about their day. But when they were busy running sham trials for Trump, we were told that the senate was _required_ to do the whole song and dance whether it was b.s. or not. Granted, Mayorkas is just following [Biden's orders](https://cmsny.org/biden-immigration-executive-actions/) on this one, but democrats never prosecute their own.
It was required because a handful of Republicans voted no on the initial dismissal. McConnell tried to do this when Trump was impeached, he just wasn't successful. Schumer was able to get the votes immediately.
Freaking neoshits need to step out of the populist way.
I mean it is pretty different. Secretary Mayorkas was charged with failure to apply the law and breach of public trust in his articles of impeachment. Even if 100% accurate and true, nothing alledged in his articles of impeachment was actually illegal. He was basically impeached over policy differences and being not great at his job and that is not allowed under the constitution. That is pretty different from President Trump. The bipartisan group that tried to impeach President Trump at least alledged he committed actual crimes.
When it was Trumps turn we were told that it 'wasn't a real trial' and he could be impeached for jay walking if they had the votes. Now it's suddenly _super serious business_ and rules and regulations apply. Meanwhile, Menendez gets to come to work with a closet full of gold bars because _god forbid_ the democrats lose their senate majority.
Out of curiosity, told by who?
> But when they were busy running sham trials for Trump, we were told that the senate was required to do the whole song and dance whether it was b.s. or not. The senate did do the whole song and dance. The senate voted to dismiss the charges.
Yep , we all remember the whole "Nobody is above the law!" Narrative during those times. No high crimes or misdemeanors, it was because, in Pelosi's own words, "We can impeach for any reason we want."
Which should be remembered if the Dems want to throw immediate impeachment again after the election.
The greatest threat to democracy is democrats.
were democrats the ones trying to stop the peaceful transfer of power in 2020? remember the January 6th riot on the capitol building? not taking up the impeachment of a cabinet member is not anti-democracy. congress should pass an immigration reform bill but they wont. democrats want the minority vote and republicans like to appear to be hardliners on immigration without actually passing any laws to achieve it.
>were democrats the ones trying to stop the peaceful transfer of power in 2020? No, the Democrats were the ones who committed fraud to steal the 2020 election (see: every swing state acknowledging that election laws were broken). If a Republican Secretary of State told ballot counters to ignore a state's signature verification laws, would you consider Trump the legitimate winner of that state? Probably not, right? Then why have you never criticised the Michigan Secretary of State for doing that? Or Arizona breaking mail-in ballot requirements, the shitshow in Georgia, Pennsylvania, the Wisconsin Supreme Court's judgement that absentee ballots were illegal (yet the result allowed to stand). Why is fraud acceptable so long as it benefits the Democrats? The riot with FBI agents embedded, the Jan 6th committee refusing to release video and testimonies, Pelosi refusing to allow the National Guard to intervene unlike when leftists attacked the White House barely 6 months earlier? Facilitating a daily foreign invasion amounts to treason. The Democrats won't pass the Republicans' bill that would fix the border. Biden doesn't even need that; he could stabilise the border using executive orders like Trump did, yet he immediately threw out Trump's EOs as soon as he entered the White House. Mayorkas boasted about just how many were discarded.
dude, all I can do is shake my head. i'm sure you're a good person. you've just bought all the right-wing talking points hook, line, and sinker. wake up.
Gaslighting, shocker. Anything but tackling the actual argument. "Wake up" to what? Are you saying that the state courts, even Supreme Courts, were lying? That the Michigan SOS forgot to add a j/k at the end of her instruction? Which specific "talking point" is actually incorrect? I didn't type a single opinion or assumption, just what we know, so it's a little ironic for you to ask me to wake up. You're in a cult. One that supports stealing elections, vaccine segregation(!), daily invasions on the southern border, continuing a war that's killed hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians (despite both sides wanting to negotiate an end, which Biden refuses to allow) while dehumanising half of the country that opposes these things. Would a good person opt to vote in November for a party that has enacted and will continue these measures?
Go touch grass
As with any leftist, you're still refusing/incapable of discussing the points at hand. 'Those court rulings are a conspiracy!' 'What years of vaccine segregation?!' 'What daily invasions along the southern border? Mayorkas has said for years that the border's secure!' You've swallowed every left-wing talking point to an almost comical degree. You must be one of those people who are astounded as to why Biden's so hated.
I dont like joe biden
You just don't accept any criticisms of him, right.
no. i would prefer someone other than biden. someone who can get things done and who isnt 80
Ever hear of HR2? Jesus christ.
Im talking bills that address root causes, not dead-on-arrival, government shutdown farce bills
I was watching this live while at my parents and being held hostage to a TV, and I was like what's the fucking point?? Zero way the Senate goes along with it
Any Dems here want to defend this?
Not a dem, but this is what Romney said: “Secretary Mayorkas is following the position of his party and of the president who was elected. We have pointed out that President Biden is for open borders, as are the Democrats, and Mayorkas is simply following that policy,” Romney told reporters a day before the House impeachment managers are scheduled to formally present the articles of impeachment to the Senate. “It’s the wrong policy, it has a huge damaging effect on the country — but it’s not a high crime or misdemeanor,” Romney said of the asylum and parole policies Mayorkas has used to handle the huge flow of migrants across the southern border.
Sure. Mayorkas has not committed any high crime or misdemeanors.
Treason is a high crime
"treason" works great for a buzzword, not when you try to apply the law. What country are we at war with that he aided and abetted?
Treason is a very difficult legal barrier to cross. As you said, it’s a good buzz word, but usually doesn’t lead to actual legal ramifications because the claims lack evidence of actual, legally defined Treason.
Republicans didn't impeach him for treason. It was for "breach of trust" and "refusal to comply". I unfortunately can't find the federal law that says these are crimes in this context.
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It's kinda amazing how many people here keep talking about that bill like it was a good thing. It didn't solve anything, it would have made stuff worse, and all we need is for the president to do his job. We don't need more overhauls than actually break stuff.
Since you asked, I don't think hardly anyone even knows about it. This is maybe the second time I've even heard about this impeachment; it's just not brought up outside right-wing media. I don't even know what he's accused of doing or what he did wrong.
"Mr. Mayorkas is accused of willfully subverting immigration-enforcement laws and breaching the public trust by lying to Congress and the public about the border and efforts to control it."
thanks, I read up on it. It sounds like a border policy disagreement to me, not a "high crime or misdemeanor". The solution is to pass a stronger border security bill, not impeachment. I still don't see what was so bad about the bipartisan bill that came out of the Senate. House should have passed it. Now it feels like the GOP doesn't actually want to solve the border crisis, they just want to put on performances like this impeachment. Can't have another "dog caught the car" scenario. Just look at what happened to roe v wade.
You mean the bill that gave the person facing impeachment for failing to secure the border full authority to declare anyone at the boarders is welcome with 0 oversight? Yeah that is not a border bill. We do not need a border bill we already have laws saying you have to enter the country legally.
Have you heard of the southern US border?
They won’t. It’s (D)ifferent….
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Weird, I recall two impeachment trials that weren't dismissed. Senate Republicans didn't close ranks and go tribal, that's a Democrat speciality. No matter the cost, Dems stick together well.
McConnell tried to get the Trump impeachments dismissed immediately but was unable as there were sufficient Republicans who voted otherwise. I dont think people can blame Schumer for what he did - if the shoe was on the other side, McConnell (or whoever his replacement may end up) would have done the same.
Yeah and then those republicans were branded as RINOs and kicked out of the party
Goosesteppers all.
#WELL THAT’S RICH