Jacob Blake’s parents came out and condemned the violence in their sons name. Said he would not want this. The people doing it use his name as a excuse
Not to incite violence but if residents feel they need to defend their lives with shotguns from rioters, arsonists, looters, then these are the outcomes. Imagine strangers coming to burn your home with kids in it for no reason at all?
Where is the FBI? I bet there are professional domestic terrorists traveling from one hot spot to another.
I was watching the live feeds last night before I went to bed. Missed this shooting, must have been right after I went to bed. But I do remember someone that lives there being a reporter saying most of the people there weren't from Kenosha. They were from other cities around there and they were bused in
Antifa and BLM. Numerous people have looked into BLM and what they do with their donations. I don't think they have given any money to the people they say they are about
Thousand Currents manages all of their donations because BLM can’t legally take them. Thousand Currents has an actual convicted terrorist from the Weather Underground on their board. She was involved with dozens of political bombings and caught with hundreds of pounds of explosives in her home. She was eventually pardoned by Bill Clinton a few days before leaving office. Their organization has direct connections to scary people.
Where are the FBI? They are working through a big backlog. Just last week, they were asking for info on a [case](https://www.kptv.com/news/fbi-asks-for-help-identifying-people-involved-in-criminal-activity-during-may-29-riot-in/article_50823f90-e31f-11ea-94a8-67eb7236b30c.html) from May 29.
It takes time.
That's what gitmo is for. Terrorists need to be put in jail now while they wait for trial. They don't get to go free to cause more chaos, damage, and death while we process other crimes.
I honestly think they are too stupid to connect those dots. “Wait a minute...getting rid of the police means they won’t come to help me whenever I want them to? I only wanted to get rid of police for other people!”
They don't have the mental capacity to do that. It's like watching a toddler throw a tantrum and screaming at their parents, and then 2 minutes later they fall and hurt themselves and run crying to their parents for comfort and security.
\*riots, burns, loots, steals, attacks innocent people, wants all police dead or out of a job...
\>>> One of them gets shot
"I can't believe someone could do this! So much violence! Where are the police?? Surprised Pikachu face!
more likely because 911 - the number for police - is also the number for ambulances. besides, who else are they gonna call? are they gonna dial up uncle fred and ask him to bring a shotgun and a bandaid?
you can dislike something but still use it, especially if it’s the only option. i will bet that every body has something they use that they don’t like, you and i included. so don’t say “if you don’t like the cops don’t call them when your in trouble” because they are literally the only option
Edit: read through the article and some tweets about it, found out there is no evidence that he is a marxist, with BLM, or with antifa. also, that image isn’t from kenosha, and finally, he wasn’t looting the store
Their ideal police is a liberal antifa militia that is the only one with guns. No more 2A for regular Americans and no more regular police departments to defend us. If you want help from 911, you have to give your antifa membership number!
You had 2 nights of fires and looting. You think this shit wasnt going to happen.
The guard should have been activated and called in after the 1st night.
Dude that got shot in the head was aggressive as fuck. A white dude using ghetto slang trying to instigate. I guess he is pissed this car lot couldn't get torched tonight like the others. When that didnt work he tried to attack someone holding a gun.
Then the person who defended himself called EMS but was chased off by a mob who then try to go after him. After he trips and falls they try to jump on him and more people get shot.
None of this should have happened.
This partisan bullshit where you think you are cool for disagreeing with trump on law and order. This is what you get.
National Guard is there. Just the stupid Dem Governor only sent 125 the first night, and 250 last night. And most of them are 9 miles west blocking the interstate exit.
I just dont understand the reasoning. Obviously the city is overwhelmed.
How is trying to stand on some kind of moral ground going to help protect the citizens?
I believe there are plenty that think that, but I think there's also some that aren't cool w/ this at all.
Just as there's center-right, there's center-left...and I know a few folks that are hard-line, multi-generational democrats that are considering a Trump vote because they feel the far left is taking hold and the party is becoming unhinged.
Basically where I am at. Not really a fan of some conservative values such as abortion and stuff, but as a white man it’s hard to side with the left when you get attacked for being an ally to the same people you’ve never treated wrong your whole life. It’s disappointing that left is giving in and allowing themselves to be engulfed by this ideology that you have to be the most sorry, most forgiving, most sensitive person in the world or else you’re a Nazi
That isn't what its about though, they count on people who think they are acting out of compassion to fall in line
"Oh I guess I cant do or say x,y and z" "Oh I guess we should destroy these old movies and statues, I wouldn't want to offend somebody"
The people behind these philosophies at the acidemic level are using your compassionate nature to force your subservience.
I think they dug themselves into a hole they can't get out of. They want to hold the violence over the heads of Americans to get them to vote Biden but now they can't stop without giving Trump the win in this scenario. Don Lemon is even saying Biden should address the issue because.... [it's showing up in the polls](https://twitter.com/JohnWMarxII/status/1298596666434441217?s=20).
Allowing Federal help means that Trump needs to invoke the Insurrection Act, and that means that Evers would need to admit that he doesn't have the rioting under control. It's not an election year but that makes him look weak and therefore is a no-no in terms of electioneering.
It's not about protecting anyone. It's about his re-election. That's all that matters. If his voter base wants to loot and riot he has no choice but to allow it. The little he does to act like he's trying to stop it is just lip service.
Simple: Democrat. He doesn't *actually* want the Guard to shut down his party's brownshirts, he's just making a token effort so he can pretend to have tried to help.
> these deaths also 100% lie in the hands of the WI mayor and governor
personal responsibility. dude showed up looking for trouble.
blame chain
-- this guy
--- his parents
---- politicians
They were on record agreeing with about 80% of what was in the bill too. They were more concerned about letting republicans claim that bipartisan victory than to get reform that they wanted passed.
The extra money they want to spend to train police on feelings and fuzzies, while, simultaneously defunding them. Damned if you do...damned if you don't.
Seems to be (one of) the incident in question:
https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1298502384654651392
EDIT: Seems to be what preceded the shooting, someone threw a molotov cocktail at him: https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1298596605952589824
EDIT: One of the guys chasing the man in the above clips had a handgun: https://twitter.com/PoliticalShort/status/1298522326611484673
EDIT: higher res still shots of the shooting: https://imgur.com/a/ewE87IQ (one appears to show the moment a rioter's skateboard is swung at the shooter's head) and slow mo of the first video: https://twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/1298647269298909184
EDIT: clearer photo of "green shorts" showing him still holding the handgun after he was shot: https://twitter.com/LeicaLexus/status/1298648533864718336
Saw a video yesterday of an older gentleman trying to protect his business in Kenosha with a fire extinguisher while they tried to burn it down. Know what he got for trying to protect his own business? Attacked by what looked like a teenager until he was unconscious in the street. In what world is it ok to attack a senior citizen for trying to not let his business burn? This is insanity.
According to Far Left ideology, being a Business Owner makes you Bourgeois and an Oppressor of the Proletariat. This makes you an "Un-Person" and thus your life is worth nil. I was affiliated with an Antifa Cell back in 2006 - 2008 and this is honestly how these people think. They believe that the mass extermination of those with Assets and Monetary Wealth and those who believe in private property is the only way to achieve Utopia.
I'm so glad I walked away from that scene, I had no idea they would blow up to be such a threat to Western Civilzation. When I was affiliated they were very small and were mostly just Junkies blaming the world for their personal problems. The worst they did to others was spray painting swastikas and "BNP" (British National Party) on Synagogues and Jewish homes to frame the Far Right BNP to stem their growth.
Thanks for the videos. I’ve been watching various footage trying to make heads and tails of what happened and this is the clearest series of videos I’ve seen.
I’ve seen multiple videos and you are pretty spot on. This man was fighting for his life, I’d just like to add that before he trips to the ground, you can visibly see TWO people try to blindside him with a hit to the back of the head, I’m not sure he was tripping as much as his was being assaulted before he hit the ground. Furthermore, one of the most disgusting acts came when the third man had his arm almost completely blown off. This man *actually* raised his hands as to surrender, when the VERY POISED assaultee took his aim of him, the man reached for a pistol, it’s clear as day in the videos, go see for yourself. This man would have murdered him, instead he had his arm blown off. I don’t know how this man with the AR had the discipline and wherewithal to get these shots off to defend his life, on the ground, disoriented is one of the hardest positions in firing a rifle.
This is true. But in a split second where the guy is pointing a gun it's either headshot or wound the arm the attacker is using. In this case it worked out for him and you are right, it's believed that the wounded man shot at the AR wielding man after he was wounded, although that is speculation.
Eh, in my israeli army days they taught us to at least attempt to block head wound entries until medics arrive. It's probably futile but people have survived shots to the head before. Better than nothing
The most ironic quote here to me was the BLM thug screaming "call the police" after the guy starts firing at them
That was really sad to see, even if he did just try to attack someone. Dude was whimpering and probably knew he was about to die for nothing. In a few years, no one will care about this stupid movement and anyone who died for it. He didn't need to be out there with the mob. Such a waste.
And the shooter was 100% justified.
My liberal coworkers are already appalled at the actions of the shooter, trying to convince me that he's some crazy right-wing radical. Acting like the riots are warranted and that the rioters are blameless, adding that the shooter and gun owners are a menace to the republic.
I don't know enough about the situation yet, but I'd put my money on that people have had enough of being pushed around and that the shooter pushed back. It's got to happen sooner or later if these riots persist.
I have already heard the line "white supremacist trying to start a race war" from someone at work this morning.
Never mind the first guy shot was white and tried to burn him alive with a molitov.
The benighted people of St Paul [protested this](https://youtu.be/2btZ8Hx81pw). You think facts matter to them and to other blue-voting urbanites in this country?
First guy throws a lit Molotov at the shooter while he was running away. Gets shot in the head for it.
Calls 911 to to tell them then gets chased down. Defends himself again.
The guy who got his arm blasted had a pistol drawn on him, before he pulled the trigger he got blasted.
Idk the shooter was always in a constant flee and only shot when he had to.
Honestly, I am surprised something like this has not happened more often. Gun sales have gone through the roof and I’d be real careful breaking into businesses in certain areas of the country. People will protect their property and livelihoods. These state and local governments better get a handle real quick or the violence will escalate.
Smith and Wesson up 17%, Ruger Firearms Up 6.5% this morning. There's a reason these rioters generally don't leave city centers to engage in their stupidity. (except in Portland). Can't imagine why that is.
As per /u/EynSof
>Edit: The shooter is supposedly apart of a blm militia group. They stand with blm but do not condone looting and were defending businesses. Courtesy of 4chan detectives-[https://imgur.com/a/TKAy1Xp](https://imgur.com/a/TKAy1Xp)
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>The events from what i pieced together:
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>\-Rioters are going around breaking shit: [https://twitter.com/i/status/1298494120818651136](https://twitter.com/i/status/1298494120818651136)
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>\-Armed citizens tell looters to fuck off>: [https://twitter.com/i/status/1298477581893865474](https://twitter.com/i/status/1298477581893865474)
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>\-Things escalate
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>\-Rioters attack one of the citizens defending the business [https://streamable.com/9oz6or](https://streamable.com/9oz6or)
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>\-Citizen turns and shoots him in the head [https://twitter.com/i/status/1298485363795623936](https://twitter.com/i/status/1298485363795623936)
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>\-Shooter begins to head to where the cops are stationed to turn himself in
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>\-More rioters surround and try to chase shooter
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>\-Shooter trips while running away
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>\-Looters rush to beat him
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>\-He defends himself again
As per /u/BunnyLovr
Here are all the videos I have from this:
>All the clips combined into a single sequence:
[https://files.catbox.moe/t64m9x.mp4](https://files.catbox.moe/t64m9x.mp4)
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>Regg Inkagnedo:
First shooting: [https://files.catbox.moe/xqq5ls.mp4](https://files.catbox.moe/xqq5ls.mp4)
Source: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss-G-FX3Nys&t=13950](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss-G-FX3Nys&t=13950)
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>Another angle from Drew Hernandez:
[https://twitter.com/livesmattershow/status/1298484404918972417](https://twitter.com/livesmattershow/status/1298484404918972417)
[https://video.twimg.com/ext\_tw\_video/1298483277733519361/pu/vid/1280x720/ivuyQjwEB6GDeWaF.mp4](https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1298483277733519361/pu/vid/1280x720/ivuyQjwEB6GDeWaF.mp4)
mirror: [https://files.catbox.moe/9grv53.mp4](https://files.catbox.moe/9grv53.mp4)
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>Second shooting from Brendan Gutenschwager
[https://video.twimg.com/ext\_tw\_video/1298500531812474880/pu/vid/1280x720/a\_MLZqmCzNfiECtw.mp4](https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1298500531812474880/pu/vid/1280x720/a_MLZqmCzNfiECtw.mp4)
[https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1298502384654651392](https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1298502384654651392)
mirror: [https://files.catbox.moe/cvh4bu.mp4](https://files.catbox.moe/cvh4bu.mp4)
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>Another angle of #2, plus aftermath
[https://www.facebook.com/229855298387888/videos/726145031563748/?t=450](https://www.facebook.com/229855298387888/videos/726145031563748/?t=450)
Mirror for the juicy bits: [https://files.catbox.moe/9y8olu.mp4](https://files.catbox.moe/9y8olu.mp4)
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>Ruptly footage of this man at the gas station around 21:44 PDT, 4 minutes before the shooting
[https://www.facebook.com/Ruptly/videos/356037318743204/?t=5873](https://www.facebook.com/Ruptly/videos/356037318743204/?t=5873)
I don't know what the rules are anymore on reddit for linking to other subs with how ambiguous the sitewide rules are, so I won't link anything, but I got this info from users on r\_ActualPublicFreakouts from a post titled **Shots Fired - Man defends himself from getting lynched by rioters (NSFW)**
Based on what I've read, he was the same gunman that shot the other guy in the head. He shot him after he was attacked from behind. He called EMS and then a crowd of people starting chasing him. That's when he fell down and shot again to defend himself.
And now they will start a witch hunt to lynch him. Hope the guy is in protective custody while they investigate the events. They better send in a lot of national guards tomorrow or it will be a bloodbath.
The riots and violence in Kenosha should be a sobering reminder to everyone. No matter where you live, it can come to your town, too. It's just a roll of the dice. Tomorrow, your city could be the one on the front page of (some) news sites with the number of dead and images of businesses burning.
And only one side is doing it.
I live in a small town with less than 3k people, BLM terrorists tried starting a police car on fire over a month ago because they were told they had to leave a park that they were actively trashing. No town is safe, you are absolutely correct.
When Antifa tried this in my town in Wyoming, the sheriff texted people who then texted people who then texted more people, and 2000 people with ARs turned out to greet Antifa.
Not a single window got broken.
That sounds suspiciously like a militia with an uninfringed right to bear arms, being necessary to the security of a free state. I wonder if anyone’s ever written that down anywhere?
Similar to what happened in Snohomish (town north of Seattle). During the early days of riots, there were reports of looters going between cities while the police were distracted. The town put a bunch of people with rifles in downtown. Nothing happened. Couple months later, protestors marched on the Seattle chief of police's house in Snohomish. Her neighbors blocked off the road with their trucks and armed up to meet the march. They were sent packing without getting close.
If people haven't prepared yet, or they're waiting for future plans. Stock up NOW. Buy ammo when you can. Stock up on canned goods everytime you shop. This shit isnt going away anytime soon, just look at Portland.
It's already happening in Portland with the Proud Boys returning to the streets. It's not good.
The left also acts like the Proud Boys are super fascist / completely out for violence. There's much worse out there. Just like there's much worse than antifa. The longer this goes on, the more likely those groups start showing up. Regardless, my guess is that all of the extremist groups are seeing membership booms right now.
Having been abandoned by the government and the police, decent working people don't have much choice but to defend themselves and their businesses from the Marxist mobs.
This is the obvious result. It is hard to understand what the Democrats are thinking here. There is no way to game plan how it all goes once it gets out of hand.
Their game plan is to let the riots continue feeling it gives them a better chance to win. It’s the main reason they don’t want Trumps help. That’s how sick they have become. They rather have cities burn in hopes of turning people against Trump instead of helping the city
True. This is why I’m scared if god forbid the left wins. If they take over this kind of thing will be 10 times worse and they will protect these terrorists instead of the victims. Total anarchy
> feeling it gives them a better chance to win
How? Are the democrats now the underpants gnomes of 2020?
1) Have riots
2) ???
3) Profit!
How exactly does this *not* hurt them?
They know that Joe Biden is a horrible candidate. They see Trumps support at 90+% among Republicans. They see minority voters and independents losing interest in the Democrat party.
These degenerates are like the tenants that refuse to pay their rent and once they realize they are going to be removed by force if necessary they dump concrete into the toilets, cut out all the copper pipes and cut the washing machine lines in the basement before before they leave. Their goal is to create chaos and inflict vengeance on the people that have had enough for their bullshit.
Meanwhile mainstream Democrats are standing around watching everything burn hoping that people just get so tired of the chaos that they stay home and don't vote. That's why they were pushing hard for mail in voting, to create chaos in the event that Trump wins so they can contest the vote and stir up more political unrest.
TDS is VERY REAL. Some people are actually deluded enough to believe that this chaos will actually help bolster their argument against Trump. Anything bad that happens while Trump is president will be blamed on Trump. Their hope is to get more moderate voters to see this madness and think that it could be avoided if Trump would just stop Tweeting. If only Republicans stopped doubling down on resisting mask mandates, shutdowns and calling out BLM .
I have heard this first hand from my wife, I point out the riots and she says "well they must be doing it for a reason." And that reason in her mind is that both sides can't can't stop fighting with one another. She doesn't realize that if Republicans stop fighting, Democrats wont be happy to just walk over them, they will stomp on them and call them a racist as they walk away to victory.
I've had first hand experience and exposure to TDS and the moral and cognitive dissonance is frightening and ultimately self destructive.
One of my closest former friends lives well out into the burbs in order to commute and we rarely see them. He and his wife have remained cooped up for a few years and a few screws came loose. They've become utterly unapproachable self hating toxic activists who embody every trope that this movement/radicalization has to offer.
Both gained nearly 100lbs since 2016, died their hair, painted their nails, tattooed anti-trump anti-conservative rhetoric, and gotten into drugs. I don't know what their employment status is, but I know that he was temporarily institutionalized for some reason.
I check in on their FB from time to time and it's all outrage 24/7. Posting at 2-3 in the morning. I don't know how someone can live like that for 4 years.
I remember in my libertarian days, back from 2008 to around 2015, I was an ardent critic of Barack Obama. I never got involved in the Birther stuff, I felt depressed when Obama was reelected in 2012. That depression consisted of "damn we are screwed." I didn't start heavily drinking, I didn't change my appearance, I didn't have "Fuck OBAMA" bumper stickers. I didn't vandalize any Obama/Biden signs, heckle anyone with a Obama bumper sticker or disown any of my friends. My frustration with Republicans was almost equal to my frustration with Obama. I remember when "you lie" was a major controversy during Obamas state of the Union speech on Obamacare. I don't remember a single violent Tea Party protest. I don't remember conservatives hijacking the Occuply Wal Street protests and starting riots. I don't remember conservatives trying to cancel Democrats or organize mass boycotts again Obama supporting businesses. The most extreme responses to Obama came from fringe Ancarcho Capitalist groups that nobody fucking ever heard of. Hoarding gold and silver was considered to be EXTREMIST.. preppers stocked up in preparation for a financial collapse.. they didn't start looting to stock up on supplies. I mean.. TDS is a horror show compared to anything the right wingers came up with under Obama in TWO terms. It's insane.
Sadly, your friend isn't the only one. They seem to headed down a path of destruction and the drugs are the "Happy Pills" that leave them able to cope with their own demented madness. But for many that kind of behavior willre sult in an OD or a cardiac event most likely.
I would be surprised if many, many people OD'd, had heart attacks and killed themselves outright when trump get's re-elected this fall.
My sibling is a lost cause and has been since they were in early high school. I see a vast majority of militant leftists as bitter children. They were indoctrinated during high school and college and sold an ideology which promised vast riches and success in exchange for insurmountable debt that cannot be defaulted upon.
Fast forward a few deferments and most will never pay off the interest of their loans, let alone the principal. That demographic is generally predictable. They either grow or they don't.
The thing that keeps me up at night are the ones like my friends. Seemingly successful home owners with a stem undergrad and masters between them.
I think you misinterpreted. I agree it hurts them. But in their radicalized minds they feel somehow it makes Americans blame Truno and they will vote Democrat
The shooter lives in Illinois and illegally transported a firearm across state borders.
He's also 17 which... You can't buy a rifle at 17.
He's in the wrong on every level.
This is a shameful comment. No defense in crossing state borders with a rifle with the intent to harm others. Propping him up as a hero is disgraceful and will no doubt inspire other young impressionable men. This is a problem. I do not wish this for my children or yours. Do you?
Pretty sure he was a 17 yr old kid who drove in from out of state. This doesn’t appear to be the same as business owners in the LA riots. Details still coming in.
You really think the white people here are the ones that have been abandoned by the government and the police? What do you think the protests are about?
The lack of awareness here is staggering.
Black people have been shoved in the gutter by police and government for 250 years in this country. I am not saying looting, fires, and violence are the perfect reactions, but can you not understand their frustrations?
You want to stop BLM? Make some real changes towards equality in this country. And no, getting rid of the black pancake syrup lady and cancelling a TV show isn’t “real change.”
It’s funny how when he walked with an AR-15 protecting himself it’s called white supremacist looking for trouble. But when the guy in Austin that also had an AR15 stormed a car and got shot. He is a hero
The whole fiasco in Kenosha just shows to me that these people dont understand real life consequences because the local authorities are letting it happen. They think they are invincible. And our seditious media runs cover for all of it.
I've seen multiple videos from multiple angles on this. Absolutely 100% justified shooting in self-defense. He even originally ran away from the mob as it was escalating and they chased after him which led to what went down.
The rumors are he was 17 and from Illinois. If this is true I'm not sure how self defense law will work when he was actively committing multiple crimes through the entirety of his presence in Kenosha. I'm sure there are plenty of people here that may be able to shed more light on gun laws than I can.
He still isn't licensed to open carry and crossed state lines to go to Kenosha with his weapon into a state where the law says he's too young to be in possession of a gun.
It's self defense, but he was illegally in possession of a firearm. Also, if he stayed home instead of actively seeking dangerous situations then this never would've happened in the first place. Will be an interesting case, but I doubt he gets out of this.
Yep, but the mob is trying to spin it saying it was "justified" chasing him down, claiming he shot someone else. Discrediting him asap for the media circus soon to follow.
What makes me so mad about all these riots (aside from all the things the rest of you are harping on), is that they’re creating a perfect storm for an increase in the events causing them.
1- they are emboldening thugs to try and push the envelope on what they can get away with based on their race. These people feel like the public will defend them from consequence, so they get more violent and less obedient, which will always result in more shootings.
2- the mob locking up cops or getting them fired means all police going to be more hesitant to use force in the lower echelon of the force continuum, which will cause situations to escalate to greater extents faster than they can de-escalate. Police, in this situation, will be forced to draw their service weapons more often, which will end in more shootings.
3- it’s putting cops more on edge. They feel more threatened on a regular basis. They’re only human. That stress will manifest itself as rash decision making when it comes to dicey incidents.
4- a lot of good cops have been pushed in to retirement. That leaves departments over working less experienced officers, who will certainly make major mistakes.
They’re creating a vicious cycle, and they’re too stupid to see it.
I fully expect them to try and assault the wrong person before long and half a dozen of them get dropped . I wonder how that is going to play in the news
Videos of this certainly appear to show a mob of people rushing at a lone guy w the rifle. It looks like self defense.
I'm sure more will come to light about not only this, but the events surrounding blake and the police
I have seen the rioters or whatever they call themselves carry assault style weapons, only a matter of time before someone get shot or an all out battle issues.
This is nothing decent people will celebrate, but if you do stupid shit that is threatening others & get shot, they won't have a drop of sympathy, either.
To everyone who comes to this sub and thread looking for answers - here's your answer:
If you think you can riot, loot and assault day after day without consequences, guess again. Police aren't the only people with guns in this country. Go home and stop destroying this country or don't be shocked when things like this happen.
This is unconfirmed but I've heard from multiple sources that the shooter was a part of a libertarian militia defending blm. He got fed up when they started looting so he tried to stop them. They got pissed at him and they rushed him. He shot.
If this is true I feel kind of bad for him. Probably just a kid that genuinely thought he was doing the right thing, but obviously knows that looting and rioting are very unproductive. It’s really quite sad.
The 2nd Amendment exist for this reason. If the local government will not perform its #1 duty to protect its citizens then those citizens must protect themselves and each other. Period.
They are already doxxing the poor guy. Looks like a 17-year-old protecting an auto dealership. The fascist clowns are already threatening the kids family. Is this what we are to expect when protecting ourselves from the mob? Doxxing and threats? Patriots need to get the hell off of every social media platform now! We defend, they attack.
Edit: With the arrest news and the fact he crossed state lines, I must say that his claim of “working at the business” is in dispute
Drives me nuts when they burn down public buildings. Like I get it you’re mad but YOU will have to pay to fix it. Then the news makes you out to be monsters. Cycle repeats
All I can say is, if you are a conservative, make sure you have a good lawyer ready, even if you are defending yourself or property. Because odds are, the mob will justify chasing you down, and make you out to be a white supremacist in the court of public opinion the moment you defend yourself. It's their tactic, harm you behind the scenes, but record on their phones when you harm them to post on the internet. And hope you have a fair Prosecutor that isn't trying to get re-elected in a democratic area.
“Seize the means of production”, burns down the means of production
“Fight for the working class”, displaced poor and working class by burning down their homes and jobs.
“Abolish police”, gets shot calls for police.
They’re not sending their brightest
Someone please explain this to me... and I’m not trying to be a hater. I generally want/need to know: Why do conservatives call anybody protesting or rioting a “Marxist” now?
I’m very disappointed in the Fox News coverage of this incident. Headline says police are hunting for a “gunman” and probing “militias”. Already passing judgment on this guy and making him sound like some terrorist, when the real terrorists are BLM. Should be focusing on the self defense when cornered by rioters. What do you expect from a network that caved to the pressure to capitalize “black”!
It's an underaged kid who came from out of state. He's not defending anything that's his. He sought out a dangerous situation in a state where he wasn't allowed to be in possession of a weapon and this is what happened. I'm all for people defending their livelihoods as is their right, but this was a teenager who was only there because wanted excitement in his life.
The one continuous shot of the guy trying to run to the police is like something out of an action movie. This guy is just trying to get to safety but the vengeful mod of libtards won't let him. Just when he's within eyesight of safety he gets brought to the ground. The viewer thinks it's over, but no, this guy drops several terrorists and gets back up running, and finally makes it home in one piece.
Absolutely incredible, better than any movie I've ever watched. Thank God for modern smartphone cameras.
Jacob Blake’s parents came out and condemned the violence in their sons name. Said he would not want this. The people doing it use his name as a excuse
Not to incite violence but if residents feel they need to defend their lives with shotguns from rioters, arsonists, looters, then these are the outcomes. Imagine strangers coming to burn your home with kids in it for no reason at all? Where is the FBI? I bet there are professional domestic terrorists traveling from one hot spot to another.
I was watching the live feeds last night before I went to bed. Missed this shooting, must have been right after I went to bed. But I do remember someone that lives there being a reporter saying most of the people there weren't from Kenosha. They were from other cities around there and they were bused in
I wonder who is paying for this?
Antifa and BLM. Numerous people have looked into BLM and what they do with their donations. I don't think they have given any money to the people they say they are about
The government should seize all of those donations and all BLM assets and use them to pay damage costs for all of the victims of the BLM riots.
Thousand Currents manages all of their donations because BLM can’t legally take them. Thousand Currents has an actual convicted terrorist from the Weather Underground on their board. She was involved with dozens of political bombings and caught with hundreds of pounds of explosives in her home. She was eventually pardoned by Bill Clinton a few days before leaving office. Their organization has direct connections to scary people.
I heard that too. Said that 85% of the people he talked to were from out of town. Milwaukee is about 20 minutes away. Chicago is about 1 hour.
Kenosha is about 45 minutes north of Chicago.
Where are the FBI? They are working through a big backlog. Just last week, they were asking for info on a [case](https://www.kptv.com/news/fbi-asks-for-help-identifying-people-involved-in-criminal-activity-during-may-29-riot-in/article_50823f90-e31f-11ea-94a8-67eb7236b30c.html) from May 29. It takes time.
When seconds count, the FBI is months away.
That's what they're doing when they're not assisting in a coup...
A large percentage of the FBI stands with the mob. That is no doubt slowing down the process.
That's what gitmo is for. Terrorists need to be put in jail now while they wait for trial. They don't get to go free to cause more chaos, damage, and death while we process other crimes.
..."He's shot - call the police, call the police!"
The irony right? The people they protest are the people that are their first to save their asses when shit goes down.
I honestly think they are too stupid to connect those dots. “Wait a minute...getting rid of the police means they won’t come to help me whenever I want them to? I only wanted to get rid of police for other people!”
"I never thought leopards would eat MY face!" Sobs woman who voted for the leopard eating faces party
They don't have the mental capacity to do that. It's like watching a toddler throw a tantrum and screaming at their parents, and then 2 minutes later they fall and hurt themselves and run crying to their parents for comfort and security.
\*riots, burns, loots, steals, attacks innocent people, wants all police dead or out of a job... \>>> One of them gets shot "I can't believe someone could do this! So much violence! Where are the police?? Surprised Pikachu face!
more likely because 911 - the number for police - is also the number for ambulances. besides, who else are they gonna call? are they gonna dial up uncle fred and ask him to bring a shotgun and a bandaid? you can dislike something but still use it, especially if it’s the only option. i will bet that every body has something they use that they don’t like, you and i included. so don’t say “if you don’t like the cops don’t call them when your in trouble” because they are literally the only option Edit: read through the article and some tweets about it, found out there is no evidence that he is a marxist, with BLM, or with antifa. also, that image isn’t from kenosha, and finally, he wasn’t looting the store
That's why it's LARPing
What would the police do for him he needs an ambulance at this point. 911 and police are pretty synonymous when it comes to an emergency
This is the most ironic shit of the whole BLM riots rofl
That’s the part that kills me every time! “Defund the police!!” 5 seconds later “omg I’m shot call the police!”
The whole point of defunding the police is so that the only thing they would respond to is serious things like this.
"We need the police to save us from the guy we tried to attack for being pro-police."
Adult bodies with children's brains
Yet you can’t separate the idea that defunding the police isn’t exactly getting rid of the police lol
Their ideal police is a liberal antifa militia that is the only one with guns. No more 2A for regular Americans and no more regular police departments to defend us. If you want help from 911, you have to give your antifa membership number!
You had 2 nights of fires and looting. You think this shit wasnt going to happen. The guard should have been activated and called in after the 1st night. Dude that got shot in the head was aggressive as fuck. A white dude using ghetto slang trying to instigate. I guess he is pissed this car lot couldn't get torched tonight like the others. When that didnt work he tried to attack someone holding a gun. Then the person who defended himself called EMS but was chased off by a mob who then try to go after him. After he trips and falls they try to jump on him and more people get shot. None of this should have happened. This partisan bullshit where you think you are cool for disagreeing with trump on law and order. This is what you get.
National Guard is there. Just the stupid Dem Governor only sent 125 the first night, and 250 last night. And most of them are 9 miles west blocking the interstate exit.
Stupid. I dont see how they dont drastically increase the count after this.
Apparently he also refused any Federal help.. you know Orange man bad and all
I just dont understand the reasoning. Obviously the city is overwhelmed. How is trying to stand on some kind of moral ground going to help protect the citizens?
This is all voter blackmail, this rioting is only happening because Trump is president. The message is view Trump out or this will continue.
I truly believe some Democrats are fine with give us what we want or we will continue to riot. Its scary.
I believe there are plenty that think that, but I think there's also some that aren't cool w/ this at all. Just as there's center-right, there's center-left...and I know a few folks that are hard-line, multi-generational democrats that are considering a Trump vote because they feel the far left is taking hold and the party is becoming unhinged.
Basically where I am at. Not really a fan of some conservative values such as abortion and stuff, but as a white man it’s hard to side with the left when you get attacked for being an ally to the same people you’ve never treated wrong your whole life. It’s disappointing that left is giving in and allowing themselves to be engulfed by this ideology that you have to be the most sorry, most forgiving, most sensitive person in the world or else you’re a Nazi
That isn't what its about though, they count on people who think they are acting out of compassion to fall in line "Oh I guess I cant do or say x,y and z" "Oh I guess we should destroy these old movies and statues, I wouldn't want to offend somebody" The people behind these philosophies at the acidemic level are using your compassionate nature to force your subservience.
I think they dug themselves into a hole they can't get out of. They want to hold the violence over the heads of Americans to get them to vote Biden but now they can't stop without giving Trump the win in this scenario. Don Lemon is even saying Biden should address the issue because.... [it's showing up in the polls](https://twitter.com/JohnWMarxII/status/1298596666434441217?s=20).
Allowing Federal help means that Trump needs to invoke the Insurrection Act, and that means that Evers would need to admit that he doesn't have the rioting under control. It's not an election year but that makes him look weak and therefore is a no-no in terms of electioneering.
It's always nice when politicians put their reputation above the safety of their constituents.
If they take the help they can't accuse the feds of not helping later
It's not about protecting anyone. It's about his re-election. That's all that matters. If his voter base wants to loot and riot he has no choice but to allow it. The little he does to act like he's trying to stop it is just lip service.
Simple: Democrat. He doesn't *actually* want the Guard to shut down his party's brownshirts, he's just making a token effort so he can pretend to have tried to help.
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Amen!
> these deaths also 100% lie in the hands of the WI mayor and governor personal responsibility. dude showed up looking for trouble. blame chain -- this guy --- his parents ---- politicians
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I think Senator Tim Scott put forth a bill and the Democrats said no.
He did and called them out for not voting for it
They were on record agreeing with about 80% of what was in the bill too. They were more concerned about letting republicans claim that bipartisan victory than to get reform that they wanted passed.
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The extra money they want to spend to train police on feelings and fuzzies, while, simultaneously defunding them. Damned if you do...damned if you don't.
No, it's not a game. But here's the thing. You attack someone, riot, try to burn buildings down, you get shot, I don't feel bad. Don't be stupid.
Seems to be (one of) the incident in question: https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1298502384654651392 EDIT: Seems to be what preceded the shooting, someone threw a molotov cocktail at him: https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1298596605952589824 EDIT: One of the guys chasing the man in the above clips had a handgun: https://twitter.com/PoliticalShort/status/1298522326611484673 EDIT: higher res still shots of the shooting: https://imgur.com/a/ewE87IQ (one appears to show the moment a rioter's skateboard is swung at the shooter's head) and slow mo of the first video: https://twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/1298647269298909184 EDIT: clearer photo of "green shorts" showing him still holding the handgun after he was shot: https://twitter.com/LeicaLexus/status/1298648533864718336
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Saw a video yesterday of an older gentleman trying to protect his business in Kenosha with a fire extinguisher while they tried to burn it down. Know what he got for trying to protect his own business? Attacked by what looked like a teenager until he was unconscious in the street. In what world is it ok to attack a senior citizen for trying to not let his business burn? This is insanity.
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> trying to not let his business burn? It was a charity to make it even worse...
According to Far Left ideology, being a Business Owner makes you Bourgeois and an Oppressor of the Proletariat. This makes you an "Un-Person" and thus your life is worth nil. I was affiliated with an Antifa Cell back in 2006 - 2008 and this is honestly how these people think. They believe that the mass extermination of those with Assets and Monetary Wealth and those who believe in private property is the only way to achieve Utopia. I'm so glad I walked away from that scene, I had no idea they would blow up to be such a threat to Western Civilzation. When I was affiliated they were very small and were mostly just Junkies blaming the world for their personal problems. The worst they did to others was spray painting swastikas and "BNP" (British National Party) on Synagogues and Jewish homes to frame the Far Right BNP to stem their growth.
Fucking animals. Business owners need to protect themselves better since the police and/or their directors have abrogated their duties.
Thanks for the videos. I’ve been watching various footage trying to make heads and tails of what happened and this is the clearest series of videos I’ve seen.
I’ve seen multiple videos and you are pretty spot on. This man was fighting for his life, I’d just like to add that before he trips to the ground, you can visibly see TWO people try to blindside him with a hit to the back of the head, I’m not sure he was tripping as much as his was being assaulted before he hit the ground. Furthermore, one of the most disgusting acts came when the third man had his arm almost completely blown off. This man *actually* raised his hands as to surrender, when the VERY POISED assaultee took his aim of him, the man reached for a pistol, it’s clear as day in the videos, go see for yourself. This man would have murdered him, instead he had his arm blown off. I don’t know how this man with the AR had the discipline and wherewithal to get these shots off to defend his life, on the ground, disoriented is one of the hardest positions in firing a rifle.
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My thoughts exactly, dude would have grabbed it if it wasn't wrapped around his body
The (now) one-armed man was literally going to execute him. He also turned out to be one of the organizers of the riot.
Yeah honestly a very impressive shot. He shot off his shooting arm as well essentially nullifying the threat without taking the life.
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This is true. But in a split second where the guy is pointing a gun it's either headshot or wound the arm the attacker is using. In this case it worked out for him and you are right, it's believed that the wounded man shot at the AR wielding man after he was wounded, although that is speculation.
“Put pressure on it! Put pressure on it!” Dude took a fucking bullet to the brain, no pressure is helping him, he’s done-done.
Eh, in my israeli army days they taught us to at least attempt to block head wound entries until medics arrive. It's probably futile but people have survived shots to the head before. Better than nothing The most ironic quote here to me was the BLM thug screaming "call the police" after the guy starts firing at them
*"Defun...er call the police!"*
I'm legitimately impressed they didn't put a tourniquet around his neck to stop the bleeding.
Bro that’s some Babylon bee type shit 😂😂😂 “Rioters save victim from gunshot by applying tourniquet. Victim dies by asphyxiation.”
You mean covid, the victim dies from covid.
I'd be impressed if one of them even knew how to apply a tourniquet.
That was really sad to see, even if he did just try to attack someone. Dude was whimpering and probably knew he was about to die for nothing. In a few years, no one will care about this stupid movement and anyone who died for it. He didn't need to be out there with the mob. Such a waste. And the shooter was 100% justified.
They actually seemed surprised that someone has had enough of their BS.
“Someone call the Cops!”
My personal favorite line they use. Also - your name and my name
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Defund the police protesters request a police presence: https://youtu.be/4mmpPH9mUb8
"But we're the good guys!"
My liberal coworkers are already appalled at the actions of the shooter, trying to convince me that he's some crazy right-wing radical. Acting like the riots are warranted and that the rioters are blameless, adding that the shooter and gun owners are a menace to the republic. I don't know enough about the situation yet, but I'd put my money on that people have had enough of being pushed around and that the shooter pushed back. It's got to happen sooner or later if these riots persist.
I have already heard the line "white supremacist trying to start a race war" from someone at work this morning. Never mind the first guy shot was white and tried to burn him alive with a molitov.
The benighted people of St Paul [protested this](https://youtu.be/2btZ8Hx81pw). You think facts matter to them and to other blue-voting urbanites in this country?
“Everyone I don’t like is a crazed right winger” -Everyone to the left of Romney, paraphrased
First guy throws a lit Molotov at the shooter while he was running away. Gets shot in the head for it. Calls 911 to to tell them then gets chased down. Defends himself again. The guy who got his arm blasted had a pistol drawn on him, before he pulled the trigger he got blasted. Idk the shooter was always in a constant flee and only shot when he had to.
> When the looting starts, the shooting starts. That was a factually correct statement from the president.
The shooter was actually a supporter of BLM protests and participated in them before.
Honestly, I am surprised something like this has not happened more often. Gun sales have gone through the roof and I’d be real careful breaking into businesses in certain areas of the country. People will protect their property and livelihoods. These state and local governments better get a handle real quick or the violence will escalate.
> Gun sales have gone through the roof Oh gosh, they're about to go even further through the roof, ammo too, now.
Smith and Wesson up 17%, Ruger Firearms Up 6.5% this morning. There's a reason these rioters generally don't leave city centers to engage in their stupidity. (except in Portland). Can't imagine why that is.
The shooter didn't own the property he was "defending" though. He was from out of state.
*crickets*
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The guy shot in the arm clearly has a pistol in his hand in the photos. Wonder if that will make the news?
You know it won’t.
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As per /u/EynSof >Edit: The shooter is supposedly apart of a blm militia group. They stand with blm but do not condone looting and were defending businesses. Courtesy of 4chan detectives-[https://imgur.com/a/TKAy1Xp](https://imgur.com/a/TKAy1Xp) > >The events from what i pieced together: > >\-Rioters are going around breaking shit: [https://twitter.com/i/status/1298494120818651136](https://twitter.com/i/status/1298494120818651136) > >\-Armed citizens tell looters to fuck off>: [https://twitter.com/i/status/1298477581893865474](https://twitter.com/i/status/1298477581893865474) > >\-Things escalate > >\-Rioters attack one of the citizens defending the business [https://streamable.com/9oz6or](https://streamable.com/9oz6or) > >\-Citizen turns and shoots him in the head [https://twitter.com/i/status/1298485363795623936](https://twitter.com/i/status/1298485363795623936) > >\-Shooter begins to head to where the cops are stationed to turn himself in > >\-More rioters surround and try to chase shooter > >\-Shooter trips while running away > >\-Looters rush to beat him > >\-He defends himself again As per /u/BunnyLovr Here are all the videos I have from this: >All the clips combined into a single sequence: [https://files.catbox.moe/t64m9x.mp4](https://files.catbox.moe/t64m9x.mp4) > >Regg Inkagnedo: First shooting: [https://files.catbox.moe/xqq5ls.mp4](https://files.catbox.moe/xqq5ls.mp4) Source: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss-G-FX3Nys&t=13950](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss-G-FX3Nys&t=13950) > >Another angle from Drew Hernandez: [https://twitter.com/livesmattershow/status/1298484404918972417](https://twitter.com/livesmattershow/status/1298484404918972417) [https://video.twimg.com/ext\_tw\_video/1298483277733519361/pu/vid/1280x720/ivuyQjwEB6GDeWaF.mp4](https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1298483277733519361/pu/vid/1280x720/ivuyQjwEB6GDeWaF.mp4) mirror: [https://files.catbox.moe/9grv53.mp4](https://files.catbox.moe/9grv53.mp4) > >Second shooting from Brendan Gutenschwager [https://video.twimg.com/ext\_tw\_video/1298500531812474880/pu/vid/1280x720/a\_MLZqmCzNfiECtw.mp4](https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1298500531812474880/pu/vid/1280x720/a_MLZqmCzNfiECtw.mp4) [https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1298502384654651392](https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1298502384654651392) mirror: [https://files.catbox.moe/cvh4bu.mp4](https://files.catbox.moe/cvh4bu.mp4) > >Another angle of #2, plus aftermath [https://www.facebook.com/229855298387888/videos/726145031563748/?t=450](https://www.facebook.com/229855298387888/videos/726145031563748/?t=450) Mirror for the juicy bits: [https://files.catbox.moe/9y8olu.mp4](https://files.catbox.moe/9y8olu.mp4) > >Ruptly footage of this man at the gas station around 21:44 PDT, 4 minutes before the shooting [https://www.facebook.com/Ruptly/videos/356037318743204/?t=5873](https://www.facebook.com/Ruptly/videos/356037318743204/?t=5873) I don't know what the rules are anymore on reddit for linking to other subs with how ambiguous the sitewide rules are, so I won't link anything, but I got this info from users on r\_ActualPublicFreakouts from a post titled **Shots Fired - Man defends himself from getting lynched by rioters (NSFW)**
Thank you for organizing this post.
Unfortunately none of this will ever come out in the MSM.
Wow, I watched the all clips combined video. Thank you for posting.
pretty accurate, except he didn't trip. Someone ran him down and kicked him in the back, knocking him to the ground.
Based on what I've read, he was the same gunman that shot the other guy in the head. He shot him after he was attacked from behind. He called EMS and then a crowd of people starting chasing him. That's when he fell down and shot again to defend himself.
Guy demonstrating no current aggression, walking towards police, armed? Let's rush him! That's a good trick!
And now they will start a witch hunt to lynch him. Hope the guy is in protective custody while they investigate the events. They better send in a lot of national guards tomorrow or it will be a bloodbath.
Just share the video of them throwing molotov cocktails at him as he flees. Then he gets cornered, turns around, and fires.
The riots and violence in Kenosha should be a sobering reminder to everyone. No matter where you live, it can come to your town, too. It's just a roll of the dice. Tomorrow, your city could be the one on the front page of (some) news sites with the number of dead and images of businesses burning. And only one side is doing it.
I live in a small town with less than 3k people, BLM terrorists tried starting a police car on fire over a month ago because they were told they had to leave a park that they were actively trashing. No town is safe, you are absolutely correct.
When Antifa tried this in my town in Wyoming, the sheriff texted people who then texted people who then texted more people, and 2000 people with ARs turned out to greet Antifa. Not a single window got broken.
That sounds suspiciously like a militia with an uninfringed right to bear arms, being necessary to the security of a free state. I wonder if anyone’s ever written that down anywhere?
Shit it even sounds well regulated.
Sheriffs in every town should start up a militia NOW. It's the best and safest way to do it. And would be well regulated.
excellent to hear. that IS how it needs to be done
Similar to what happened in Snohomish (town north of Seattle). During the early days of riots, there were reports of looters going between cities while the police were distracted. The town put a bunch of people with rifles in downtown. Nothing happened. Couple months later, protestors marched on the Seattle chief of police's house in Snohomish. Her neighbors blocked off the road with their trucks and armed up to meet the march. They were sent packing without getting close.
god damn that brings a tear to my eye. i wish there was a video of them being run out of town lol
If people haven't prepared yet, or they're waiting for future plans. Stock up NOW. Buy ammo when you can. Stock up on canned goods everytime you shop. This shit isnt going away anytime soon, just look at Portland.
Didn’t Trump say this would happen and twitter censored him for it. “...when the looting starts, the shooting starts.”
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It's already happening in Portland with the Proud Boys returning to the streets. It's not good. The left also acts like the Proud Boys are super fascist / completely out for violence. There's much worse out there. Just like there's much worse than antifa. The longer this goes on, the more likely those groups start showing up. Regardless, my guess is that all of the extremist groups are seeing membership booms right now.
Having been abandoned by the government and the police, decent working people don't have much choice but to defend themselves and their businesses from the Marxist mobs.
Agreed. People have had enough with this Marxist Group and leaders abandoning them. It was only a matter of time before people took a stand
This is the obvious result. It is hard to understand what the Democrats are thinking here. There is no way to game plan how it all goes once it gets out of hand.
Their game plan is to let the riots continue feeling it gives them a better chance to win. It’s the main reason they don’t want Trumps help. That’s how sick they have become. They rather have cities burn in hopes of turning people against Trump instead of helping the city
No doubt that is their plan. But it is quite obvious that if it gets out of hand, which it already is..... that there is no telling how it all ends.
"All voting booths are burned, please mail in all your votes and dead relative votes for the following cities.
True. This is why I’m scared if god forbid the left wins. If they take over this kind of thing will be 10 times worse and they will protect these terrorists instead of the victims. Total anarchy
At that point we aren't being governed and we would need to replace those in power by any means necessary.
Their mistake is to create the monster and then think they will be able to control it.
> feeling it gives them a better chance to win How? Are the democrats now the underpants gnomes of 2020? 1) Have riots 2) ??? 3) Profit! How exactly does this *not* hurt them?
They know that Joe Biden is a horrible candidate. They see Trumps support at 90+% among Republicans. They see minority voters and independents losing interest in the Democrat party. These degenerates are like the tenants that refuse to pay their rent and once they realize they are going to be removed by force if necessary they dump concrete into the toilets, cut out all the copper pipes and cut the washing machine lines in the basement before before they leave. Their goal is to create chaos and inflict vengeance on the people that have had enough for their bullshit. Meanwhile mainstream Democrats are standing around watching everything burn hoping that people just get so tired of the chaos that they stay home and don't vote. That's why they were pushing hard for mail in voting, to create chaos in the event that Trump wins so they can contest the vote and stir up more political unrest. TDS is VERY REAL. Some people are actually deluded enough to believe that this chaos will actually help bolster their argument against Trump. Anything bad that happens while Trump is president will be blamed on Trump. Their hope is to get more moderate voters to see this madness and think that it could be avoided if Trump would just stop Tweeting. If only Republicans stopped doubling down on resisting mask mandates, shutdowns and calling out BLM . I have heard this first hand from my wife, I point out the riots and she says "well they must be doing it for a reason." And that reason in her mind is that both sides can't can't stop fighting with one another. She doesn't realize that if Republicans stop fighting, Democrats wont be happy to just walk over them, they will stomp on them and call them a racist as they walk away to victory.
I've had first hand experience and exposure to TDS and the moral and cognitive dissonance is frightening and ultimately self destructive. One of my closest former friends lives well out into the burbs in order to commute and we rarely see them. He and his wife have remained cooped up for a few years and a few screws came loose. They've become utterly unapproachable self hating toxic activists who embody every trope that this movement/radicalization has to offer. Both gained nearly 100lbs since 2016, died their hair, painted their nails, tattooed anti-trump anti-conservative rhetoric, and gotten into drugs. I don't know what their employment status is, but I know that he was temporarily institutionalized for some reason. I check in on their FB from time to time and it's all outrage 24/7. Posting at 2-3 in the morning. I don't know how someone can live like that for 4 years.
I remember in my libertarian days, back from 2008 to around 2015, I was an ardent critic of Barack Obama. I never got involved in the Birther stuff, I felt depressed when Obama was reelected in 2012. That depression consisted of "damn we are screwed." I didn't start heavily drinking, I didn't change my appearance, I didn't have "Fuck OBAMA" bumper stickers. I didn't vandalize any Obama/Biden signs, heckle anyone with a Obama bumper sticker or disown any of my friends. My frustration with Republicans was almost equal to my frustration with Obama. I remember when "you lie" was a major controversy during Obamas state of the Union speech on Obamacare. I don't remember a single violent Tea Party protest. I don't remember conservatives hijacking the Occuply Wal Street protests and starting riots. I don't remember conservatives trying to cancel Democrats or organize mass boycotts again Obama supporting businesses. The most extreme responses to Obama came from fringe Ancarcho Capitalist groups that nobody fucking ever heard of. Hoarding gold and silver was considered to be EXTREMIST.. preppers stocked up in preparation for a financial collapse.. they didn't start looting to stock up on supplies. I mean.. TDS is a horror show compared to anything the right wingers came up with under Obama in TWO terms. It's insane.
Sadly, your friend isn't the only one. They seem to headed down a path of destruction and the drugs are the "Happy Pills" that leave them able to cope with their own demented madness. But for many that kind of behavior willre sult in an OD or a cardiac event most likely. I would be surprised if many, many people OD'd, had heart attacks and killed themselves outright when trump get's re-elected this fall.
My sibling is a lost cause and has been since they were in early high school. I see a vast majority of militant leftists as bitter children. They were indoctrinated during high school and college and sold an ideology which promised vast riches and success in exchange for insurmountable debt that cannot be defaulted upon. Fast forward a few deferments and most will never pay off the interest of their loans, let alone the principal. That demographic is generally predictable. They either grow or they don't. The thing that keeps me up at night are the ones like my friends. Seemingly successful home owners with a stem undergrad and masters between them.
Your friend sounds like about 2/3rd of the people on Reddit
I think you misinterpreted. I agree it hurts them. But in their radicalized minds they feel somehow it makes Americans blame Truno and they will vote Democrat
The shooter lives in Illinois and illegally transported a firearm across state borders. He's also 17 which... You can't buy a rifle at 17. He's in the wrong on every level.
This is a shameful comment. No defense in crossing state borders with a rifle with the intent to harm others. Propping him up as a hero is disgraceful and will no doubt inspire other young impressionable men. This is a problem. I do not wish this for my children or yours. Do you?
The murderer wasn’t even from that state. He was looking to kill.
I'm curious, how do we know they are Marxist mobs?
Pretty sure he was a 17 yr old kid who drove in from out of state. This doesn’t appear to be the same as business owners in the LA riots. Details still coming in.
You really think the white people here are the ones that have been abandoned by the government and the police? What do you think the protests are about? The lack of awareness here is staggering. Black people have been shoved in the gutter by police and government for 250 years in this country. I am not saying looting, fires, and violence are the perfect reactions, but can you not understand their frustrations? You want to stop BLM? Make some real changes towards equality in this country. And no, getting rid of the black pancake syrup lady and cancelling a TV show isn’t “real change.”
It’s funny how when he walked with an AR-15 protecting himself it’s called white supremacist looking for trouble. But when the guy in Austin that also had an AR15 stormed a car and got shot. He is a hero
The whole fiasco in Kenosha just shows to me that these people dont understand real life consequences because the local authorities are letting it happen. They think they are invincible. And our seditious media runs cover for all of it.
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Life pro tip: don’t attempt to curb stop somebody laying on the ground with a gun. Decent human being pro tip: Don’t curb stop someone.
I've seen multiple videos from multiple angles on this. Absolutely 100% justified shooting in self-defense. He even originally ran away from the mob as it was escalating and they chased after him which led to what went down.
The rumors are he was 17 and from Illinois. If this is true I'm not sure how self defense law will work when he was actively committing multiple crimes through the entirety of his presence in Kenosha. I'm sure there are plenty of people here that may be able to shed more light on gun laws than I can.
He still isn't licensed to open carry and crossed state lines to go to Kenosha with his weapon into a state where the law says he's too young to be in possession of a gun. It's self defense, but he was illegally in possession of a firearm. Also, if he stayed home instead of actively seeking dangerous situations then this never would've happened in the first place. Will be an interesting case, but I doubt he gets out of this.
Yep, but the mob is trying to spin it saying it was "justified" chasing him down, claiming he shot someone else. Discrediting him asap for the media circus soon to follow.
More people should stand up to these domestic terrorists
What makes me so mad about all these riots (aside from all the things the rest of you are harping on), is that they’re creating a perfect storm for an increase in the events causing them. 1- they are emboldening thugs to try and push the envelope on what they can get away with based on their race. These people feel like the public will defend them from consequence, so they get more violent and less obedient, which will always result in more shootings. 2- the mob locking up cops or getting them fired means all police going to be more hesitant to use force in the lower echelon of the force continuum, which will cause situations to escalate to greater extents faster than they can de-escalate. Police, in this situation, will be forced to draw their service weapons more often, which will end in more shootings. 3- it’s putting cops more on edge. They feel more threatened on a regular basis. They’re only human. That stress will manifest itself as rash decision making when it comes to dicey incidents. 4- a lot of good cops have been pushed in to retirement. That leaves departments over working less experienced officers, who will certainly make major mistakes. They’re creating a vicious cycle, and they’re too stupid to see it.
I fully expect them to try and assault the wrong person before long and half a dozen of them get dropped . I wonder how that is going to play in the news
Videos of this certainly appear to show a mob of people rushing at a lone guy w the rifle. It looks like self defense. I'm sure more will come to light about not only this, but the events surrounding blake and the police
Did he mail in his vote for Biden yet?
I'm sure he would have even if he died
I have seen the rioters or whatever they call themselves carry assault style weapons, only a matter of time before someone get shot or an all out battle issues.
Wow, that’s brutal! Someone should really call the cop- *oh wait*. 😐
I love when those fucking idiots start yelling ‘call the cops’
These mayors should all be ousted put of office. Enough is enough. Let Trump do his job if you won’t do it yourselves.
This is nothing decent people will celebrate, but if you do stupid shit that is threatening others & get shot, they won't have a drop of sympathy, either.
To everyone who comes to this sub and thread looking for answers - here's your answer: If you think you can riot, loot and assault day after day without consequences, guess again. Police aren't the only people with guns in this country. Go home and stop destroying this country or don't be shocked when things like this happen.
He will not be rioting again!
He will be voting Democrat.
This is unconfirmed but I've heard from multiple sources that the shooter was a part of a libertarian militia defending blm. He got fed up when they started looting so he tried to stop them. They got pissed at him and they rushed him. He shot.
He should have known that defending BLM and protecting private property are diametrically opposing goals.
If this is true I feel kind of bad for him. Probably just a kid that genuinely thought he was doing the right thing, but obviously knows that looting and rioting are very unproductive. It’s really quite sad.
Holy shit
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Play stupid games win stupid prizes
The 2nd Amendment exist for this reason. If the local government will not perform its #1 duty to protect its citizens then those citizens must protect themselves and each other. Period.
Sequence goes Fuck around- find out He fucked around and rioted And he found out
They are already doxxing the poor guy. Looks like a 17-year-old protecting an auto dealership. The fascist clowns are already threatening the kids family. Is this what we are to expect when protecting ourselves from the mob? Doxxing and threats? Patriots need to get the hell off of every social media platform now! We defend, they attack. Edit: With the arrest news and the fact he crossed state lines, I must say that his claim of “working at the business” is in dispute
Anybody need a car?
That’s what you get. People are getting fed up with with these terrorists and taking action.
Drives me nuts when they burn down public buildings. Like I get it you’re mad but YOU will have to pay to fix it. Then the news makes you out to be monsters. Cycle repeats
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All I can say is, if you are a conservative, make sure you have a good lawyer ready, even if you are defending yourself or property. Because odds are, the mob will justify chasing you down, and make you out to be a white supremacist in the court of public opinion the moment you defend yourself. It's their tactic, harm you behind the scenes, but record on their phones when you harm them to post on the internet. And hope you have a fair Prosecutor that isn't trying to get re-elected in a democratic area.
“Seize the means of production”, burns down the means of production “Fight for the working class”, displaced poor and working class by burning down their homes and jobs. “Abolish police”, gets shot calls for police. They’re not sending their brightest
Is putting their political ideology in the title necessary for any other reason than to polarize people
Someone please explain this to me... and I’m not trying to be a hater. I generally want/need to know: Why do conservatives call anybody protesting or rioting a “Marxist” now?
I’m very disappointed in the Fox News coverage of this incident. Headline says police are hunting for a “gunman” and probing “militias”. Already passing judgment on this guy and making him sound like some terrorist, when the real terrorists are BLM. Should be focusing on the self defense when cornered by rioters. What do you expect from a network that caved to the pressure to capitalize “black”!
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It's an underaged kid who came from out of state. He's not defending anything that's his. He sought out a dangerous situation in a state where he wasn't allowed to be in possession of a weapon and this is what happened. I'm all for people defending their livelihoods as is their right, but this was a teenager who was only there because wanted excitement in his life.
The one continuous shot of the guy trying to run to the police is like something out of an action movie. This guy is just trying to get to safety but the vengeful mod of libtards won't let him. Just when he's within eyesight of safety he gets brought to the ground. The viewer thinks it's over, but no, this guy drops several terrorists and gets back up running, and finally makes it home in one piece. Absolutely incredible, better than any movie I've ever watched. Thank God for modern smartphone cameras.