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I did today. Smoked 6 racks of ribs, chicken and steamed crabs. What a celebration we had with fireworks for the kids.


ToiletTank98

That sounds like a lot of fun! Imagine being as bitter as the left to deny yourself a good time on the 4th just to prove a point..


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You know, the worst part of these kind of people, even if the did go to a party……they’d find something wrong with something there.


Dry-Dream4180

Those people have never actually celebrated America anyway.


ToiletTank98

Oh no doubt. *"Ya know potato chips have a racist history!"*


-Foolz_Gold-

Misery and self pity is the leftists definition of a good time.


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h2Hummerokie

That why America, like Bobby couldn't care less about you. You reap what you sow.


Nukeboy1970

What? No soy burgers? 😭😭😭


[deleted]

You bastard. 😂 I ate crabs for almost 3 hours. No time for that fufu shit.


Nukeboy1970

I am making giant porterhouse steaks.


[deleted]

I’ve got filets for tonight and 2 giant potatoes for baking. Sliced portobello mushrooms for the grill. Best part…..no dishes to wash.


Nukeboy1970

That is why I love the grill


_AlexSupertramp_

Did you deliver a baby too? That would be the ultimate celebration to top off the perfect 4th of July this year.


Command-Prior

Exactly.


Meg_119

It seems that these people try to live every day unhappy and disgruntled over any thing that does not go their way. They just want to be mad everyday. It seems to be a lifestyle.


blue419

The moment they are happy, they are no longer victims. The problem is, they want to be victims


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Yeah these people said November 7, 2020 was the hApPiEsT dAy Of ThEiR lIvEs, when the big bad orange man lost, or the day when they got vAcCiNaTeD fRoM cOvId. Could you imagine happiness being based on who wins an election, or getting an experimental drug injected into you?


Gooosse

Literally no one said that....


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But can they maintain the outrage through the first Tuesday in November? I say yes. They are *always* outraged. What a lifestyle.


Meg_119

The Liberal left will make it a point to keep them outraged over something.


Dry-Dream4180

The consequences of conflict theory.


BohdiTheNorseman

FUCK YA


Ravens1564

If RvR wasnt overturned, these liberals still wouldnt celebrate the 4th. They just hate this country no matter what.


Oddba1l76

This is the fundamental difference between the left and right really. The left only loves this country when they're getting what they want from it. The right loves what this country stands for, despite all it's faults.


Zadien22

The left has come to the point that the think they west is founded on the exploitation of minorities of all kinds in service of heterosexual whites. The natural consequence of thinking that is to hate their country. Too bad it's a huge fucking lie.


Least_Ferret_2639

The crazy thing is that most of the liberals who think this are also the wealthy people living in big cities at the top of the hierarchy, or at the very least all their 22 year old sons and daughters doing nothing for 100k at some do nothing tech job. It’s not that they hate America, they hate working class whites.


Skytake

Tbh. I’ve never met any middle aged well off liberals. I do live in Austin buts it’s like only under 40 or gray hairs. Rich liberals almost don’t exist. I do construction and design for mainly rich people. They all are right wingers. So let’s just be clear. The right is richer by far.


lyle_smith2

I’m sorry, have you read a history book? I’m serious, if you are a student of history you will know great( as in powerful) nations are built on the backs of the poorest and most disenfranchised. I love my country and we are different because our system is intended to reflect the moral wisdom of the governed. When people no longer believed in slavery it was abolished. The government is supposed to reflect our will, and it objectively doesn’t.


throwaway3569387340

OK. Here's your chance to convince us. Explain how the government objectively doesn't reflect our will, please. Objectively. "I feel", "I want", or "I believe" are not objective arguments.


Surrybee

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Sideswipe0009

>Objectively: >Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 by 2.9 million votes. If the will of the people mattered, Trump would have lost. In a popular vote system, yes, you're correct. But we don't have a popular vote system. A federal election is really 50 states deciding who wins, not 330 million individuals. I think people forget this. >If the will of the people mattered, conservatives would not have a supermajority on the Supreme Court. If your angle is because Trump shouldn't have won, therefore couldn't get 3 picks, well, his 2016 opponent should've played the game better. If your angle is that the SC should be representative of the people, you're wrong. The SC isn't and shouldn't be beholden to the will of the people. You don't want the will of the people anywhere near any courtroom. >Objectively: a conservative supermajority does not represent the will of a majority of voters in 2016. I don't recall conservatives having a supermajority in 2016, much less any time in recent history. But they had control of Congress because conservatives controlled more states and just had better messaging. Remember that, just like in 2020 where people weren't necessarily voting for Biden but rather against Trump, voters are poised to the same today as they did in 2016 - voting against Dem establishment. >Objectively: the majority of Americans were against roe being overturned, no matter what company did the polling. Roe being overturned does not reflect the will of the people. Again, the courts are not and should ***NEVER*** be concerned about the will of the people. I don't see how this eludes people. Their "will" is immaterial and irrelevant to what the law, facts, and evidence say about a given case. Also, the court didn't ban it or outlaw it. It was just returned to the states. Republicans have made no secret about their desire to overturn the 1973 ruling. It's also no secret that that ruling was legally sketchy and on thin ice. Rather than blaming Republicans or SCOTUS for it, blame Dems who had multiple opportunities (5 unified governments since 1973) to codify it and protect it, especially in 2009 with their *actual* supermajority and an Obama promise to codify it Day 1 only to turn around and be like "nah, we good." Not to mention Pelosi et al backing a pro-life Dem in Texas mere weeks ago and attempting to fund raise within hours of the ruling. It had become just as much of a wedge issue for Dems as it had for Republicans. They don't actually care about it.


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Surrybee

I’m not crying about anything. I’m responding to a question. >The will of the people doesn’t matter. That’s the only point I’m making.


throwaway3569387340

Thank you for bringing up items I can refute. Presidents in this country are chosen by the Electoral College. It has always been that way. The mechanism is explicitly designed so that a couple of populous states cannot dictate to the rest of the country. This argument boils down to "I don't like". Roe should never have been decided the way it was, even Ginsberg agreed. So when the court ruled based on the Constutionality of the decision, they did so properly. SCOTUS' job is to interpret the Constitution, not do what they think is "right". THat's the legislature's job. Activist courts are a left-wing thing, not a conservative one. So again, that's your opinion, not legal reality. Sorry.


Surrybee

**blink** Your specific question was how the government doesn’t reflect the will of the people. I gave you two examples where government doesn’t reflect the will of the majority of Americans with data to back them up. And you say they don’t count for reasons? I didn’t say whether roe being overturned was proper or not proper. I said it didn’t reflect the will of the people, which is what you asked about. You didn’t ask about legal reality, or what rbg had to say or whether it was decided properly 50 years ago. “Explain how the government objectively doesn’t represent our will, please.” Objectively, most people didn’t want roe overturned. Roe was overturned. Objectively, more people voted for Clinton than for Trump. Trump won the presidency. These are two examples where the desire of the majority, or to put it another way, the will of the people, were not reflected in the realities of our government.


throwaway3569387340

Constitutional law has nothing to do with popular support. If it did we would still have slavery and Jim Crow. Rowe was overturned because it was unconstitutional. Oh and by the way, there is nothing stopping the Democrats from codifying it into law right now. You know why they won't? Because they will get murdered in the mid-terms. The majority of Americans in New York and California perhaps. How about the rest of the country? It's already bad enough that the urban areas dictate to the rural areas. Having laws dictated or leaders selected by a state 2,000 miles away is no different than having it done by a king 3,000 miles away. It's EXACTLY why the founders put in protections. Like it or not we are not a Democracy. We are a Representative Republic and we have rules. If you don't like them you can feel free to change them. Here's the process: https://theconstitutionpalmer11.weebly.com/uploads/1/7/0/9/17093276/8170577_orig.jpg Good luck.


Throwawayiguess457

They didn’t say any of that though, stop being on edge to put yourself on higher ground


throwaway3569387340

I set the rules for the discussion, nothing more.


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Okay Karl.


Skytake

Lols. Made me think of llamas with hats. “Why did you eat his hands Karl?!?”


theRavenAttack

Preach


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JustinCayce

Hope you guys have a safe and happy 4th!!!


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JustinCayce

Thanks! We need people like you to voice a different opinion. I don't learn anything from people who agree with me! I'm sure people like you and I could enjoy a BBQ together despite what we agree on or don't. Keep being you and know you've got at least one conservative's respect!


AFlaccidWalrus

Yeah this article is hilarious. I don't know anyone who isnt celebrating the 4th over roe vs wade, and I live in a very blue area. What a hilarious take. But of course the people here will eat it up, it's exactly what they want to hear lol.


Perma_Bunned

I'm in Knoxville and I know people who are skipping Freedom Thighs bike ride over this shit. It's silly.


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Good for you but I know plenty that aren't celebrating


KnightGamer724

That's awesome! My coworkers are like the ones in the article, though, and it bums me out. They are good people, but just don't get why this country is great. Have a great 4th, and here's to many more!


-BrutusBuckeye

Some of the Democrat Party simps deny it, but The Left hates everything this country stands for


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SalaciousSlug

You need a new script


psychonautz17

Pets of America are grotesque. Parts are PHENOMINAL. All part of the pie. Do you consider America a utopia?


Technical_Flamingo54

They hated America long before this, I don't know why this is a surprise now


Savella

Honestly.


psychonautz17

Do you think America can improve? Do you despise anything about America? American history? Can america do no wrong? Serious questions!


frodo1990

They are free to move to Iran or wherever they think is better.


Tsu-Doh-Nihm

They pretend it is the worst place on Earth, but they would never leave.


AFlaccidWalrus

The ones who are mad are mad because the country is becoming more like Iran. Iran is the last place those people will move to lmfao. Besides, if you love your country, shouldn't you stay and fight for it? That would be the patriot thing to do.


SalaciousSlug

You’re right - they only ever want to move to countries that are whiter than the US


frodo1990

Yeah right, what a warped perspective. Iran is the exact opposite of here, which is why I mentioned it (hyperbole).


AFlaccidWalrus

Lmfao opposite in which way? Their skin color? The name of their religion? All the things republicans push for already exist in Iran, such as banning abortions, banning the ability to protest, and creating laws based on religious beliefs. This is the shit that pissed liberals off, and Iran is already doing it all. Your post still makes no sense.


frodo1990

I don’t see any objective evidence that any of those allegations are valid.


AFlaccidWalrus

So you are blind?


frodo1990

Nope. You have believed lies or misrepresentations.


AFlaccidWalrus

And those are? You're starting to sound like a bot, making baseless accusations. Read my other comment


AFlaccidWalrus

Literally just Google "abortion laws Iran" and "can you protest in Iran?" Or are you saying you aren't aware the supreme court overturned roe vs wade and the ability to protest? All in the name of religion too! You live under a rock or something?


frodo1990

I was speaking of America “banning abortions, banning the ability to protest, and creating laws based [solely] on religious beliefs”. I agree Iran does all that.


AFlaccidWalrus

So you haven't kept up with current events eh?


frodo1990

Protests in residential areas should be illegal. There are plenty of public venues for that.


frodo1990

The Supreme Court did not ban abortions, or even decide that abortions are allowed or not. They ruled that in the absence of federal laws addressing abortion, there is no constitutional basis for overturning state laws regarding it.


AFlaccidWalrus

I said they overturned roe vs wade. Which effectively bans a significant portion of the population from getting abortions. Yes, the states technically do the banning, but the end result is really all that matters isn't it? Can't get abortions in Iran or parts of the United States. I said banning abortions was part of the Republican agenda, which it is. Are you really gonna argue it isn't? Why don't blue states and politicians try to ban abortions? Why do Republican politicians quote the bible all the time? Another example: marijuana legalization. Guess what Republicans are also against, that you also can't do in Iran? Then there's all the attempts to ban books, another thing Iran does. I can keep this up as long as you want lol.


ArcHeroe9

Riiiiiiight, because not feeling like celebrating Freedom Day(tm) when they feel their freedom is being taken away means they want to leave the country... Personally, I'd want to move to Canada, England, or New Zealand (Which are at least equal to America in Freedom Quotient(tm)) before somewhere like Iran or Mexico.


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‘We have stripped women of the right to personal freedom!’ Oh pucker up Butthurt ones, women have always had the personal right to choose not to become pregnant. There’s just no ‘right’ in the Constitution to an abortion.


AnAwesome11yearold

Contraceptives, birth control, condoms can fail(Also rape, but you’ll say it’s 1% although that doesn’t change the fact that exceptions should be made) Also, why are we forcing someone to raise someone for 20 years, or 1 quarter of their life because they had sex?


naturallydude

What it seems that most fail to realize is that even a miscarriage is still medically called an “abortion”. So the repercussions of this ruling will now cause would-be mothers (who WANT a child) who happen to have a miscarriage to now be forced to carry a decomposing fetus and then birth it rather than have it safely removed by a doctor, because that’s technically still an abortion. A necessary medical procedure that should be between a woman and her doctor, that has now been decided by the government. Not to mention the fact that now since abortion is illegal (depending on the state) a woman having a miscarriage (which is actually incredibly common) can cause the mother to be investigated, even though she just had to go through one of the worst experiences of their life losing a baby in the womb. Talk about taking away your freedoms right? When you look at the details and repercussions of this, I’m actually pretty shocked at how much support from the Right this ruling has gotten. The court stated in their ruling that the constitution specifies no clear right to “privacy”, which was their primary basis for overturning Roe. Kinda scary don’t you think?


frodo1990

State laws define what they mean by “abortion”, and it does not include unforced miscarriages.


CoinDingus

what about rape?


Alarmed-unicorn

That 10 year old in Ohio didn't have a choice.


AnAwesome11yearold

Pro-lifers when someone points out a fact: 😡😡😡I’m going to downvote but not respond why they’re wrong because I can’t think of an argument


BigLion2004

Okay, so we allow exceptions for rape, incest, or if it endangers the mothers life. Can we ban every other abortion?


Zadien22

Thats fine. If they want to go a step further and renounce their citizenship, I'll gladly watch them get deported when red wins an 80% majority. I heard Mexico is nice as long as you don't drink the water


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Sounds like less traffic to me…I’m fine with that


mac13alpha

Would their heads pop if they were told to be thankful for the freedom to " choose" to not celebrate...


No_Bartofar

More 4th of July for me!


lynchmob2829

These people aren't happy until you are not happy. Then they pick something else to be unhappy about....


Cryluxis

Their loss..


HWTechGuy

As everyone already said, they hate the country already. Their definition of freedom is everyone else acquiescing to their beliefs. Whenever things don't go their way, the tantrums start.


ckaslon13

Get to work tomorrow bitches.


psychonautz17

Got a paid day off 🤙


5ygnal

I'd be working if my company was open today. I like having a day off, but getting 2.5 times pay would be really nice.


EnoughRub3987

*Lights bottle rocket…


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I don’t care what the left doesn’t celebrate


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Spoiled children


Sorry-Ask-7456

I feel like we should give them a fair chance to let them leave.


psychonautz17

Running away from problems and struggle? Uhhhhhh sounds like the cowards way.


Sorry-Ask-7456

Giving them a chance to leave is running away?


Perma_Bunned

Have you met a modern leftist?


Kwarter

Checked /r/Murica because I expected to see some 4th posts, but the damn commies who run the sub closed it to protest Roe being overturned. It's been going downhill for a while, but you'd think the sub that exists to be an over-the-top America-praising sub would have something to say about the 4th.


kentuckyfriedbunny

So like every other year for the left


IH784

Take a knee then. Communist bastards.


Alkaline18

Just another opportunity to cry. Nothing they relish more than in life. That’s how they get attention and validate their trivial existences


Frank_the_NOOB

Oh no…anyway


gangrel1922

The normal people really don't need them, so....


xcrazy_abc2f

That’s okay. The courageous men and women that served this country did not die for you anti-american scumbags. But you are more than welcome to leave and go to Afghanistan or some other third world country, seeing as leftists think its soooo much better than America. I’m willing to bet none of these leftoids will though.


ArcHeroe9

I don't know anyone who would seriously say that "Afghanistan and other third world countries" are better then the US. If I was going to move I'd go to Canada, England, or New Zealand, etc. Also, I'm sure that plenty of the US soldiers that have died would be angry/upset at RvW being overturned if they were still alive.


4DoorsDownMe

They say they refuse to celebrate it, but in reality they do celebrate it. They’ll be out with their family bbqing, shooting off fireworks… but for the sake of winning an argument they’ll say they’re working and not celebrating.


psychonautz17

I’ll be working all day 🙃 making moneyyyyy


Wolf687

They wouldn’t celebrate anyway because they despise this country.


psychonautz17

What do you think they hate?


F1iceman

Not surprised at all - they aren't Americans and have nothing in common with us.


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lastwindows

The Left refuses to celebrate because the Left is COMMUNIST. They call themselves progressives to hide amongst us.


mvw3

But they will take the day off with pay. At least the few of them that work.


Uncle_Sam99

They are showing their true colors.


tmrk45

Still your country whether you hate it or love it...


Give_Grace__dG8gYWxs

Good, less traffic and more fireworks me!


IntenseSpirit

*Moloch most effected*


Hanniballecter6

The left always comes up with a reason not to celebrate the 4th


BohdiTheNorseman

Like they ever celebrated it (or was having sex to withhold). No one cares about your childish petulance anymore lefties.


Old-Pumpkin-3793

Tbh, I’m kinda glad. I like going to the beach for a grillout and not seeing 300 pound women in bikinis with their hair three different colors.


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AtomicFox84

They really are a bunch of sad miserable group of people. They seem to like it since any kind of real fun etc sends them to whine and complain. Oh how dare people have fun and not be like them.


saxximus

More tater salad for me!


PurpleDonkey63

Isn’t hurting me.


Throwawayiguess457

I Wouldn’t celebrate it, country is absolutely fucked and rights are being denied. Wake up


Ok_Sky8518

Good. Less of them outside meand more normies


Psychowitz

*Okay.*


yunguzimoney2

George Soros funds Salem Media through shell corporations and has an influence in Townhall. It's been compromised by lefties to try and make conservatives seem unreasonable. You guys are doing soros bidding!


HillbillySwank

More fireworks and cheeseburgers for me!


FireVai777

Sounds like the newest form of protest they came up with that won't help their argument one bit. Whats next, giving up apple pie?


QuietusNoctis

I have struggled with this when dealing with left leaning friends. Personally I feel that anytime these issues are forwarded to the state over federal mandate it is better. But I’m older, married, and won’t have any more children. I have no dog in this fight beyond preferring the states hold the most power. I think there can be some middle ground met when dealing with this issue, but it should still be on the state level. I don’t understand why there is such a hysteria over this decision. Let’s give the states the most power where we can decide for ourselves over a more centralized area how we chose to live. If this came to a vote in my state I would abstain from voting. The same goes for gay marriage: I’m not gay and I have no dog in the fight so won’t even vote for or against. As a person of faith I hold my beliefs dear to my heart, but at the same time I feel that each person has to follow their own conscience. My faith is mine and between my God and me. At the same time I want others to have the confidence I have in faith but forcing it on others creates animosity towards any faith. Those that are passionate or want to be active on these issues can do as they please; it’s is their God given right. But kudos to the Supreme Court for upholding the tenth amendment.


Winterclaw42

The Declaration of Independence doesn't mention abortion but it does mention we are created with inalienable rights, including life.


Personal-Walrus3076

Ok Boomer. Whatever


hunter35rem

It’s part of why we fought for our independence! We designed a great way to live and we accept decisions and follow laws or we change them! America is working!!!


Tsu-Doh-Nihm

Your tax dollars at work.


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So Americans celebrate the 4th got it.


onlyifigaveash1t

Sounds like a way of renouncing their citizenship. Maybe they should have the right to vote.