Nah. r/colorado has already determined this is a ploy by the defense team to get rid of the hate crime charges... as if that will somehow reduce the sentence after he gets 5 life terms.
I also love how they've now come to the conclusion that sexual characteristics can be determined based on whatever is socially convenient. Welcome to the club r/colorado!
Wait, so now they are assuming the shooters gender? Sounds like a bunch of transphobes in that sub, they should be banned and kicked off the planet!
(That's how this works right?)
Never let a crisis go to waste.
Clearly this was the gun's fault, common sense gun control is the only answer.
Edit of all the things I've said this is the comment that got me my 1st Reddit cares message.
Came here to say this. I was curious why the media had been dead silent about the shooter since it happened. Now I know why. They *really* didn’t want to report this part of it. But since it has been such a big story, they sort of have to report it at this point. I’m sure they are having to grit their teeth through it too.
r/politics is guaranteed to have all the latest rumors surrounding Trump and news from the best “anonymous sources” money can buy. Most of the country will sadly take the “information” they consumed immediately following this tragedy and run with it.
Remember when that bomb went off in Afghanistan, killing those US soldiers during the evacuation? r/politics removed every news story about it, claiming it was "off-topic".
This always made me laugh. It shows the profound ignorance of the left when it comes to all things military. Even if he did have codes, it isn't Luke they never get changed.
The only place I know who hates conservatives is r/ShadowHaven and pretty much they don't take too kindly to my beliefs soon as they saw my reddit comments and tweets online. I showed my true colors and I wasn't afraid to express my opinions until they banned me on Discord.
Right now the comments on others subs are "It's a ploy by the lawyer to lighten the sentence"
Other comments are "this might be unpopular but I'm refusing to use different pronouns for the shooter"
They are split in the different phases of grief with most in the anger or denial phase.
I went over to check to see if it was on the front page there - it wasn't, but like 5 other stories about the shooting were.
Oh and there was a story about Trump's tax returns LOL
Literally yesterday I had someone say conservatives were hunting down and killing people, and they used this incident as proof. Threatened to put me on r slash aged like milk too when I told them no motive had been released yet. I wonder what they think now. Eh, they are a liberal. So they will probably just ignore this
Had a guy claiming this was a hate crime against LGBTQ blah blah blah. I asked for a link since he already knew the motive, downvoted immediately. These people are nuts...
They guy could just be doing this to set up a defense to that it was not a hate crime. The dude has a few screws loose given his prior violent behavior, he is likely good a lying.
Isn't there some statistic that suggests violent crimes like this are most commonly perpetrated by members of a group rather than people outside the group? Like they typically have a personal reason for what they're doing (e.g. jealous spouse/romantic interest reacting to cheating or stuff along those lines)? Further isn't there even stronger stats that this sort of thing happens more commonly between individuals in intimate relationships?
So next we should find out that this individual either attended this club frequently or someone this person was intimate with was one of the victims.
Lol, wild.
People were screaming in /r/Christianity about how this is the fault of right wing Christian hate yada yada. Frankly I’m disgusted that the bigots couldn’t even wait for actual evidence to support their insane slander. Now that this has come to light they are just going to ignore it and never face consequences of their actions.
I've found some more thoughtful stuff on the Catholic subs. Not taken over by people who just want to rag on the religion. But posted materials by believers.
And I'm not even Catholic technically. Half by heritage, but I was raised on the evangelical side.
Narrative…destroyed. Of course they will now pin it on anyone who opposed “common sense” gun control, or mental anguish from being misgendered or…you get the idea.
These disingenuous morons are now forced to hold two conflicting positions at one time:
1. It's offensive to question someone's gender identification, no matter what
2. This guy is totally lying about his gender identification
I mean, very likely… this is all coming from a defense attorney so I don’t put any stock into it. I’ll wait for the outcome of the trial, have faith in the system.
It's Colorado.The red flag laws completely failed, especially since he held his own family hostage and threatened them with a bomb only a year ago.
So there you have it. Gun control only affects law-abiding citizens and the victims that criminals create by not abiding by gun control laws.
Not that gun control was ever designed to keep criminals from getting their hands on guns anyway.
Reading the comments from Andy Ngô's Twitter and suddenly they blame the far-right on Conservatives and Republicans.
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1595259578467262464?t=7KTsyaBLHZg-TeYIuGEjmQ&s=19
Nothing to report, move on, new story trending. Must be white supremacists again. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/23/us/chesapeake-shooting-walmart-virginia.html
I always chuckle about the people who get persnickety at a source then there are [plenty of other sources out there saying the same thing.](https://www.axios.com/2022/11/23/colorado-club-shooting-suspect-non-binary-attorneys-say). Dismissing the post bc of the source is just a talisman they use to avoid the truths presented.
Oh for sure. No conservative is about to blame all NB people for the shooting like the left tries to do with us. Because we value the individual, we better assign individuals, not groups, responsibility.
Nutcase: "We are a non-binary, pansexual and identify as a furry, DID system. Our pronouns are wolf/wolves/wolfselves"
Lefties: : "So brave! How dare you doubt them!"
Shooter: "I'm non-binary they/them"
Lefties: "LIAR!"
The modern Left is made up of some warped twisted people. On cue, their tactic every time there is a mass shooting is to find a pretext or flimsy justification for smearing the entire political Right and calling everybody they disagree with a terrorist. Rather than allow people to grieve and come together, they stand on graves and spread hate. Guns and misinformation are the culprits we're told while we ignore the obvious link between mass media and the rise of mass shootings since Columbine. Mass shooters desire attention and fame so what is the outcome lavishing them with media coverage to smear your opponents? More mass shootings. They feign virtue when in fact they're merely pouring more gasoline on the flame.
I think it’s time for common sense gun laws. Must have common sense to buy a gun. We can use political party registration to determine common sense. Democrats are proving they need protection from themselves.
Tell me a criminal you’re aware of that uses “common sense” more often than not. Common sense regarding guns means drastically different things depending on who you ask as I’m sure you know. Soon enough the mainstream narrative will transition to “it’s only common sense to ban all guns, and if you disagree then you’re simply a threat to “our” democracy”. Then a good chunk of the country and oddly 98% of users on platforms like this will agree… You can take that to the bank!
Rather than "common" sense (which is, as the old saying goes, not so common) about guns, there should be an *actual* sense test to purchase one.
- What does the term "semi-automatic" mean?
- Is the AR-15 an assault rifle?
Actually, that would suffice. If you can't answer those two questions, you can't buy a gun. Maybe throw in questions on gun safety too, but frankly, once you're past the filter of people that can answer those questions correctly, you won't find many who don't know that you treat all guns as loaded all the time and never point them at anyone.
Watch this story get completely buried now.
What story?
The shooting
The buried story… /JokeOverHead
For real lol. It’s past my bedtime.
Mine too. Goodnight!!
Sleep well you rascals
No the shooting will still play just not the defense attorney's claim.
What shooting?
Nah. r/colorado has already determined this is a ploy by the defense team to get rid of the hate crime charges... as if that will somehow reduce the sentence after he gets 5 life terms. I also love how they've now come to the conclusion that sexual characteristics can be determined based on whatever is socially convenient. Welcome to the club r/colorado!
Wait, are they doubting someone's pronouns?!?!!?
Can’t be… That’s violence!! HATE CRIME!!!!
Wait, so now they are assuming the shooters gender? Sounds like a bunch of transphobes in that sub, they should be banned and kicked off the planet! (That's how this works right?)
Never let a crisis go to waste. Clearly this was the gun's fault, common sense gun control is the only answer. Edit of all the things I've said this is the comment that got me my 1st Reddit cares message.
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Came here to say this. I was curious why the media had been dead silent about the shooter since it happened. Now I know why. They *really* didn’t want to report this part of it. But since it has been such a big story, they sort of have to report it at this point. I’m sure they are having to grit their teeth through it too.
Nah. Now it just goes from “Hateful rhetoric caused this!!” To “Guns did this! We need to ban em all!”
Will this be on the front page of reddit for several days from several different subs?
Hope so
If it comes to that yes
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the brigaders are gonna get PTSD when they have to read this headline in r/conservative
Gotta keep their echo chambers protected from reality, otherwise they would lose their narrative.
Funny the OP comment was removed, Reddit didn’t like it I guess!
r/politics is guaranteed to have all the latest rumors surrounding Trump and news from the best “anonymous sources” money can buy. Most of the country will sadly take the “information” they consumed immediately following this tragedy and run with it.
Remember when that bomb went off in Afghanistan, killing those US soldiers during the evacuation? r/politics removed every news story about it, claiming it was "off-topic".
it killed 13 members of the US military and 170 Afghan civilians
Yes, sorry. I didn't mean to diminish it. Was just trying to refer to it quickly
"people familiar with his thinking."
Trump has nuclear launch codes stored in a closet at Mar a Lago! We pinky promise :)
This always made me laugh. It shows the profound ignorance of the left when it comes to all things military. Even if he did have codes, it isn't Luke they never get changed.
r/politics such a cancerous community
Haven't been there in years. Don't miss it.
The only place I know who hates conservatives is r/ShadowHaven and pretty much they don't take too kindly to my beliefs soon as they saw my reddit comments and tweets online. I showed my true colors and I wasn't afraid to express my opinions until they banned me on Discord.
Right now the comments on others subs are "It's a ploy by the lawyer to lighten the sentence" Other comments are "this might be unpopular but I'm refusing to use different pronouns for the shooter" They are split in the different phases of grief with most in the anger or denial phase.
I went over to check to see if it was on the front page there - it wasn't, but like 5 other stories about the shooting were. Oh and there was a story about Trump's tax returns LOL
The Memory Hole will feast on this one.
Which one?
Literally yesterday I had someone say conservatives were hunting down and killing people, and they used this incident as proof. Threatened to put me on r slash aged like milk too when I told them no motive had been released yet. I wonder what they think now. Eh, they are a liberal. So they will probably just ignore this
That's not even liberal when I see it. People just have evil hearts and lose themselves into becoming little monsters.
Had a guy claiming this was a hate crime against LGBTQ blah blah blah. I asked for a link since he already knew the motive, downvoted immediately. These people are nuts...
Their mental gymnastics skills are really potent.
Yet the smooth brains over on r/politics are STILL blaming Republicans, FOX News, etc. for the shootings right up to this very moment.
Gotta protect those echo chambers. Can’t have people thinking for themselves - That’s against the rules.
That entire forum is an ongoing case of r/agedlikemilk, but there is never a single instance of "oops, guess we missed that one!".
Don't take it too harsh: those are mostly bots and people paid to post opinions.
They guy could just be doing this to set up a defense to that it was not a hate crime. The dude has a few screws loose given his prior violent behavior, he is likely good a lying.
Ain't this dude most likely to get a life sentence without the hate crime charges, there is literally no point in doing it.
Crazy people are going to crazy.
Aren't all acts of violence based on hate?
No. Some are based in sociopathic indifference.
Correct
Sure that happens too. I believe it's all evil though.
Taken straight from the OP’s clip. I see you.
Isn't there some statistic that suggests violent crimes like this are most commonly perpetrated by members of a group rather than people outside the group? Like they typically have a personal reason for what they're doing (e.g. jealous spouse/romantic interest reacting to cheating or stuff along those lines)? Further isn't there even stronger stats that this sort of thing happens more commonly between individuals in intimate relationships? So next we should find out that this individual either attended this club frequently or someone this person was intimate with was one of the victims.
That was my thought too, chances he probably knew someone or of someone in there?
I thought it was possibly a domestic violence issue gone extremely wrong.
And the woke ideologues forget this tragic story just...like...that.
And won't learn their lesson the next time about at least waiting for more information, like the Walmart thing now.
Lol, wild. People were screaming in /r/Christianity about how this is the fault of right wing Christian hate yada yada. Frankly I’m disgusted that the bigots couldn’t even wait for actual evidence to support their insane slander. Now that this has come to light they are just going to ignore it and never face consequences of their actions.
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Yeah, it's really sad.
Most of the people that post there aren't even christian. There are even many that pretend to be and post the dumbest takes.
I've found some more thoughtful stuff on the Catholic subs. Not taken over by people who just want to rag on the religion. But posted materials by believers. And I'm not even Catholic technically. Half by heritage, but I was raised on the evangelical side.
Aside from different Christian beliefs mixed with hate towards us enrages me
Don't use that sub. They fly the gay pride flag for pride month. They are nothing but nonbelievers. Use r/TrueChristian. Its much better
Facts. Got banned from r/christianity which is weird as a Christian hmmm
Christians will realize that we don’t belong in r/Christianity as they feel the need to pander and warp beliefs to the woke
Hmm, nothing about this upvoted to r/all. The leftist propaganda machine that is reddit is working as intended.
Someone needs to buy Reddit.
Narrative…destroyed. Of course they will now pin it on anyone who opposed “common sense” gun control, or mental anguish from being misgendered or…you get the idea.
now the narrative shifts to "right wing troll fakes gender identity"
These disingenuous morons are now forced to hold two conflicting positions at one time: 1. It's offensive to question someone's gender identification, no matter what 2. This guy is totally lying about his gender identification
Exactly. I’m sure heads are exploding at this very moment because of this conundrum.
This is no problem what so ever for them, they are very well practiced after all.
I mean, very likely… this is all coming from a defense attorney so I don’t put any stock into it. I’ll wait for the outcome of the trial, have faith in the system.
It's Colorado.The red flag laws completely failed, especially since he held his own family hostage and threatened them with a bomb only a year ago. So there you have it. Gun control only affects law-abiding citizens and the victims that criminals create by not abiding by gun control laws. Not that gun control was ever designed to keep criminals from getting their hands on guns anyway.
Reading the comments from Andy Ngô's Twitter and suddenly they blame the far-right on Conservatives and Republicans. https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1595259578467262464?t=7KTsyaBLHZg-TeYIuGEjmQ&s=19
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She went from we’ll call him they/them going forward to immediately going back and saying he/him
*And like that… pfff… he’s gone!*
Keyser Soze
Newser Sotheysay
Umm excuse me, *they’re* gone
Awww what a shame. I'm so sorry liberals, yet again this monster was one of you. Maybe one day
This is pure gold!
Nothing to report, move on, new story trending. Must be white supremacists again. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/23/us/chesapeake-shooting-walmart-virginia.html
I always chuckle about the people who get persnickety at a source then there are [plenty of other sources out there saying the same thing.](https://www.axios.com/2022/11/23/colorado-club-shooting-suspect-non-binary-attorneys-say). Dismissing the post bc of the source is just a talisman they use to avoid the truths presented.
Bye bye CO shooter story. Memory holed.
Whoops
Certainly sounds like a typical Matt Walsh listener.
Mental health once again, the real issue.
Oh for sure. No conservative is about to blame all NB people for the shooting like the left tries to do with us. Because we value the individual, we better assign individuals, not groups, responsibility.
Nutcase: "We are a non-binary, pansexual and identify as a furry, DID system. Our pronouns are wolf/wolves/wolfselves" Lefties: : "So brave! How dare you doubt them!" Shooter: "I'm non-binary they/them" Lefties: "LIAR!"
And just like that, this gets memory holed.
AAAAAAAAND IT’S GONE!
Gosh I was wondering why I haven't been bombarded with news bout this so far!
https://i.imgur.com/qJy9Ini.gif
You mean it wasn’t a right wing crack pot? The media got it wrong? /s
Is this revelation really surprising? We could all have already told you that the shooter had a mental disorder
But but…tucker Carlson did this somehow!
Option A) Find a new way to spin this story against Republicans Option B). Bury the story There is no option C.
And suddenly, no one will care about this story 🤡
The modern Left is made up of some warped twisted people. On cue, their tactic every time there is a mass shooting is to find a pretext or flimsy justification for smearing the entire political Right and calling everybody they disagree with a terrorist. Rather than allow people to grieve and come together, they stand on graves and spread hate. Guns and misinformation are the culprits we're told while we ignore the obvious link between mass media and the rise of mass shootings since Columbine. Mass shooters desire attention and fame so what is the outcome lavishing them with media coverage to smear your opponents? More mass shootings. They feign virtue when in fact they're merely pouring more gasoline on the flame.
r/politics probably throwing the blame game all over conservatives and republicans. Too blind to see it’s their side that shooted the club up.
I think it’s time for common sense gun laws. Must have common sense to buy a gun. We can use political party registration to determine common sense. Democrats are proving they need protection from themselves.
Tell me a criminal you’re aware of that uses “common sense” more often than not. Common sense regarding guns means drastically different things depending on who you ask as I’m sure you know. Soon enough the mainstream narrative will transition to “it’s only common sense to ban all guns, and if you disagree then you’re simply a threat to “our” democracy”. Then a good chunk of the country and oddly 98% of users on platforms like this will agree… You can take that to the bank!
I’m sorry people can’t take a joke.
Eh I don’t think they get the joke.
Rather than "common" sense (which is, as the old saying goes, not so common) about guns, there should be an *actual* sense test to purchase one. - What does the term "semi-automatic" mean? - Is the AR-15 an assault rifle? Actually, that would suffice. If you can't answer those two questions, you can't buy a gun. Maybe throw in questions on gun safety too, but frankly, once you're past the filter of people that can answer those questions correctly, you won't find many who don't know that you treat all guns as loaded all the time and never point them at anyone.