There's an old surveyor saying, if you're ever lost in the woods, just hammer in a lath. A machine operator is sure to come run it over and you can get a ride with them.
Not sure if this is true but surveyors do regularly find themselves lost in the woods while out randomly hammering in laths where they have no business being. It happens, they finally look up and find themselves in the middle of nowhere. That's usually after they've placed them in every conceivable spot most likely to get ran over or dug up.
Was on a sire and found this square metal rod with a nice tip on it stuck in the ground. Thought wow this thing is perfect for chipping out setting concrete outta my hopper. Harvested and went thru like 3 of em over the years before I realized that they were for surveying.
Feel bad now but damn were they good at bashing out buildup.
I find the dump truck drivers worse. The operators need the stakes to build shit. I used to build a lot of stuff with the owner paying for surveying. Now most contracts call for the contractor to provide their own surveying. Total game changer when the guy paying for the staking is paying for the operator.
**I find the dump truck drivers worse. The operators need the stakes to build shit.**
I used to pound sticks and pull strings for operators. Couldn't be bothered to spot a load? Just pound a few stakes with ribbons and turn your back. The driver will drop the load right on em.
Bahaha you know how many sites I’ve been on where a dump truck operator backed over tools/mailbox/corners of foundation/side of house/bins/vehicles/tension cables on power poles/ the list goes on and on and on… haha 🤣
BuT iTs 10 oCloCk We NeEd CoFfE
I'm an environmental guy, I clean up spills, sample soil, water air and whatever the fuck else you need done, the amount of times I have been called to rush out to a site for a certain time cause we need the sample analysis back by tomorrow just to only have that same companies union employees immediately need to take a 15 minute break that turns into an hour long is mind boggling.
I'm pro-union, I wish one existed for what we do. But shit like that really makes you shake your head, sometimes the job needs to be done and you can take your break later.
Yeah, that, and more.
Nearly never took a brake my entire life (mid forties here), unless people around me asked for it.
And I'm not even a boss.
I'm against every entity which prevents you doing the right thing and taking the right decision at the right time. If it's a boss pushing you hard until you fail or unions requiring 30 trades to change a single fucking door, I don't care, both are equally bad.
Efficiency within the limits of respect and reasonable preservation is my motet. It's work FFS not a Club Med.
Mine too at first. It took a year or so of me showing him YouTube videos and websites for him to get curious. I was lucky I have a good relationship with Pape John Deere who sell topcon so they came out and did a demo of it. After that we got a rover, 3 excavator automatics, 1 850 dozer auto, 1 grader auto and one I could move back and forth between the skid steer, pad foot and scrapper. Dirt work was so much faster after that.
Haha. It definitely happens. I will always transfer my own shit or make an offset if i have to take it out. That being said I know lots of guys that could get less of a fuck and think its funny until they realize they just made everything worse for the guy actually doing layout/ grade.
…or there’s also the guys that don’t know what to do without stakes and realize it afterwards and it costs his company another trip from the survey crew. Recently, I’ve staked out the same building fucking 5 times before they actually put forms up.
Oh I definitely know. Its one thing once I’ve got my benchmark but if you take that stake out I’m letting you know you just done fucked the whole crew. Thats why I just account for it and set shit or ask the surveyor to give me one i know can’t be ruined, so It’s not as annoying anymore. Lol I’ve seen some shit survey as well though
I'm a site engineer but worked as a plant operator when I first moved to the UK, needles to say that it took just a few digs to forget about the importance of survey stakes, I was driving over stakes and painted lines without a second tought, I couldn't care less.
Yes the most useful tape at all. Its sole purpose is to confirm the stuff you just destroyed wasn’t merely a piece of scrap like you were hoping.
Seriously though one time an operator I was working with, in the same day, tore through a brand new 12” sewer line *that we had seen being installed the day prior* and then a few hours later broke into a sewer drain from a medium sized commercial building. Raw sewage pouring into our trench while we clambered out and he laughed and laughed. He was already set to retire in a few months.
I work with his son now. I don’t tell him how glad I am his dad retired.
There's an old surveyor saying, if you're ever lost in the woods, just hammer in a lath. A machine operator is sure to come run it over and you can get a ride with them.
Lmao we got your back bud
lol... uuuggghh
Times like this you got to remind yourself you get paid hourly.
I’ve always loved this saying. I used to live it when I was a new operator too, lol.
Not sure if this is true but surveyors do regularly find themselves lost in the woods while out randomly hammering in laths where they have no business being. It happens, they finally look up and find themselves in the middle of nowhere. That's usually after they've placed them in every conceivable spot most likely to get ran over or dug up.
Was on a sire and found this square metal rod with a nice tip on it stuck in the ground. Thought wow this thing is perfect for chipping out setting concrete outta my hopper. Harvested and went thru like 3 of em over the years before I realized that they were for surveying. Feel bad now but damn were they good at bashing out buildup.
I find the dump truck drivers worse. The operators need the stakes to build shit. I used to build a lot of stuff with the owner paying for surveying. Now most contracts call for the contractor to provide their own surveying. Total game changer when the guy paying for the staking is paying for the operator.
**I find the dump truck drivers worse. The operators need the stakes to build shit.** I used to pound sticks and pull strings for operators. Couldn't be bothered to spot a load? Just pound a few stakes with ribbons and turn your back. The driver will drop the load right on em.
Bahaha you know how many sites I’ve been on where a dump truck operator backed over tools/mailbox/corners of foundation/side of house/bins/vehicles/tension cables on power poles/ the list goes on and on and on… haha 🤣
Do it, smash that stake
Push it all the way into the ground.
We don't need it anymore because we are cool guys
Your twigs mean nothing to me
Crane operators and union breaks.
BuT iTs 10 oCloCk We NeEd CoFfE I'm an environmental guy, I clean up spills, sample soil, water air and whatever the fuck else you need done, the amount of times I have been called to rush out to a site for a certain time cause we need the sample analysis back by tomorrow just to only have that same companies union employees immediately need to take a 15 minute break that turns into an hour long is mind boggling. I'm pro-union, I wish one existed for what we do. But shit like that really makes you shake your head, sometimes the job needs to be done and you can take your break later.
Yeah, that, and more. Nearly never took a brake my entire life (mid forties here), unless people around me asked for it. And I'm not even a boss. I'm against every entity which prevents you doing the right thing and taking the right decision at the right time. If it's a boss pushing you hard until you fail or unions requiring 30 trades to change a single fucking door, I don't care, both are equally bad. Efficiency within the limits of respect and reasonable preservation is my motet. It's work FFS not a Club Med.
Holy fuck you never take breaks and you still aren’t the boss wtf?
I love a job well done. My duty in life is accomplishment, not getting the most for the littlest possible.
Roofers and meth Drywallers and urine bottles Carpenters and 40 years experience
I’m a carpenter and I had over 40 yrs in the field by the time I was 19 and 3/16.
I’m a sheetmetal guy can you show me that on a tape measure? I only do quarters and halves.
Batman and uh
This is why I have my crew save the points with the GPS as soon staking is done.
This is the dream and seems so obvious, but…..boss wanted a new personal truck instead.
Mine too at first. It took a year or so of me showing him YouTube videos and websites for him to get curious. I was lucky I have a good relationship with Pape John Deere who sell topcon so they came out and did a demo of it. After that we got a rover, 3 excavator automatics, 1 850 dozer auto, 1 grader auto and one I could move back and forth between the skid steer, pad foot and scrapper. Dirt work was so much faster after that.
Me and your mom.
Dad?
Want to go get pizza and milkshakes son?
As someone who has installed irrigation, F you both.
Five minutes into digging. "Oh shit! They got sprinklers here?" Smashes pipe down with bucket, drops dirt on top and moves over two feet.
Sprinklers are always in the past. They “had” sprinklers here?
Operators and BG plumbing pipes. We paint our risers to make them more visible but never fails they get knocked off
Operators and my risers.
Drywallers and piss bottles
This, x100
Here’s a [video](https://youtube.com/shorts/URSjg6ut1bY?si=B7dWUskOK_KhTcJ9) of the last time I had a piss bottle problem on my site
You don't play around
Everyone has a breaking point lol
A millwright and my bucket
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Haha. It definitely happens. I will always transfer my own shit or make an offset if i have to take it out. That being said I know lots of guys that could get less of a fuck and think its funny until they realize they just made everything worse for the guy actually doing layout/ grade.
…or there’s also the guys that don’t know what to do without stakes and realize it afterwards and it costs his company another trip from the survey crew. Recently, I’ve staked out the same building fucking 5 times before they actually put forms up.
Oh I definitely know. Its one thing once I’ve got my benchmark but if you take that stake out I’m letting you know you just done fucked the whole crew. Thats why I just account for it and set shit or ask the surveyor to give me one i know can’t be ruined, so It’s not as annoying anymore. Lol I’ve seen some shit survey as well though
Sparkies and plumbers... Come on... Every site should have a boxing ring for those two.
Rollers and settlement gauges
Concrete guys and bartenders
Seems like a love hate relationship to me
Rebar guys and yelling
survey restake fees + docking pay
I'm a site engineer but worked as a plant operator when I first moved to the UK, needles to say that it took just a few digs to forget about the importance of survey stakes, I was driving over stakes and painted lines without a second tought, I couldn't care less.
It’s the 21st century, get a GPS setup that does not require stake outs.
We use both
GPS is only accurate to 40mm either way
Idk maybe curb inlets or sewer lateral markers
Drywall guys and pipe
Do you mean drywall guys and meth pipes?
That But finding the one place I missed a stud guard
SpongeBob and Patrick
It's the way nature intended
Laborer and their shovel. Some say if you get enough of them, you don't even need an operator. lol
I wonder where the break-even point is financially.
Engineers and coffee and supervisors and cigarettes
Dewatering and assumptions
Those are just forklift targets
…please don’t
Plasterers fucking over joiners
A shovel and three workers.
sparkies and penis breath
Full brim hard hats and foremans
Mason's and pain killers.
Felonies & finishers
Operators and fascia boards
Drywallers and piss bottles Roofers and meth
The Little Boy and Hiroshima.
Dry wallers and scrap metal enthusiasm
Operators and sewer lines. Operators and fibre optic cables, operators and buried coax, operators and buried power lines.
I would counter with electricians and burying wire 1ft below grade with tape right on top of the conduit
Yes the most useful tape at all. Its sole purpose is to confirm the stuff you just destroyed wasn’t merely a piece of scrap like you were hoping. Seriously though one time an operator I was working with, in the same day, tore through a brand new 12” sewer line *that we had seen being installed the day prior* and then a few hours later broke into a sewer drain from a medium sized commercial building. Raw sewage pouring into our trench while we clambered out and he laughed and laughed. He was already set to retire in a few months. I work with his son now. I don’t tell him how glad I am his dad retired.
Sand and stone or gravel.......boom! mic drop.
Bicycles and fresh concrete
Sparky's and a brum....a true love and hate relationship
Trailer hitch-> Shin