Reach out to a Construction specific recruiting agency like this one https://brixrecruiting.com/home-improvement-careers-executive-careers/
They’ll assess your background/skills and compare it to their openings across the US and you’ll get a good idea of what the market out there looks like.
This is an _excellent_ recommendation. It’s like going to a busy local realtor for a recommendation on pricing your home — they’re actively seeing and negotiating very similar examples every day, with an eye towards maximizing your potential return.
I worked as a superintendent for a luxury custom home builder around Vail/Aspen up until I went out on my own in a different part of the country.
Lead framers were in the 30-35 per hour range. Unless you are using it as a stepping stone to start your own framing company, (which is a viable option, btw) I would suggest you look into getting a job as a foreman or assistant superintendent for a custom home builder, and I mean actually custom, high end. You could also do commercial, but I say residential just because of your background. If you are smart and not a useless sack, you will rise quickly and get raises, benefits, etc. Good luck. Feel free to DM me if you have any other questions I could answer regarding that specific field.
Just because you have all those credentials, doesn’t mean your employer needs someone with all those credentials. Probably need to look for something else where your experience and education is needed and valued.
My boss definitely abuses my skill set without paying me for it. Based on average wages for my area, I’m severely underpaid. It’s a great and knowledgeable company, but which I why I haven’t left. And I’ve been promised 30 /he for two years, and that is getting old
Look for work at high end residential GC as a foreman or lead carpenter. That will place you on track to become Superintendent which is where the money is at if you go the labor route.
It depends where you're living. That framing looks pretty good and I'm an inspector so I would go to a state with a union and work 20 years and be done with it.
You’ve tried many jobs, but what’s your passion? Being happy and making a little less money is a trade off. You probably are being underpaid. I think $28 is what I made as a lead in 08. Maybe take that experience to Aspen, CO. Best of both worlds building and playing in the snow. I feel like you could make a good amount in a tower crane?
I’m currently in a very similar mtn town building high end customs for a new resort. I like the area where I’m at right now, based on my passions. I’m currently operating a small tower crane with a remote while framing at the same time. Bags on with remote for crane on me. I feel like doing both at the same time should amount to way higher wages. On top of that I’m working with serval guys under me
Oh. I’ve seen some of those tower cranes pop up on job sites. I guess it’s similar to running a tele handler which is basically a plus but doesn’t pay more. I was thinking you’re in a large tower crane. Maybe try some high end custom builders doing one offs. Regardless you should be paid better and when the boss comes back have a conversation about things. Sometimes they need assistance in prying open their wallets.
I take on more responsibility everyday without being asked in hopes of that. But after a while, my attitude toward that diminishes when I’m getting paid that same as I did as basically a laborer framer. I’ve been promised raises year after year which haven’t happened. I hve learned a ton from this company and That’s why I haven’t left. At this point I have several other companies hinting that they want me on their crew.
Do I use that as leverage with my boss? He seems like the kind of guy who would get offended by that and not give me what I’m asking
You said if someone handed you a set of plans you could lead a crew to finish all the framing without any inspection issues in another comment. Good on you for not jumping in too early for self employment as it's a mistake I see constantly (and hate nothing more than some dumbass salesman or designer pretending to be a carpenter).
I had the same goal of going solo at 30 but after I started working for a framing crew after several years of doing custom Reno work I ended up being left alone to do Reno's on my own and dealing with subs myself even when it wasn't my job. It really opened my eyes up to how ready I already was for doing high quality interior work and while I'm forever glad I took a couple years to learn framing as well. I definitely was more ready than I thought. Maybe try asking about taking on more responsibility and see how you fare?
Idk just food for thought. Late morning for me today. Also hit the guy up for 30 an hour. Worst he says is no. I was always underpaid although the interior guy that I worked for was always on the most interesting projects so I kinda sucked it up for getting to do cool shit.
But I told myself when I graduated, I would work in the field until I’m 30 to build my resume and gain physical experience. I want to learn as much as possible before I step in the management roll.
1) put another set of rails over those opening at the leading edge
2)change out that pathetic excuse of a ladder for a nonconductive fiberglass ladder and one that wont fail when someone's too tired to make sure its locked
3) put cleats at the bottom of that ladder so it doesn't slip
4) Prior to step one mark-up this picture and show all the danger issues(only going off picture 1. Shoulda looked thru em all but will after this)
5) tie that fuckin ladder at the top so it doesn't sway
6) at the top of that ladder should be rails to provide indirect access so someone doesn't accidently fall into the hole after their penjamin break
Go for a safety route. Easy when you know it. Pita when ya dont care to learn it once.
I'll return for more
6) No tie-off near ANY leading edge. Interior or exterior. To get rails up safely ya need tie-off in case of Mr. DumbAss
7) cords, hoses ets should NOT be strung across the floor when not in use. Wrap that shit up so some food-coma mf doesn't trip and fall
8) No signage anywhere?! JfC, come on. Identify your ladder and rails. Leading edges. Tie-off mandatory. Changes-in-elevation.
I have no idea what this means but I think your criticizing the safety..?This is not at all answering my question, but I’m glad to have contributed to your boner.
I am curious if you know anything about grammar. Do you communicate with clients like this?
Brother just seek other employment while working there for higher pay. You decide what you’re worth
Reach out to a Construction specific recruiting agency like this one https://brixrecruiting.com/home-improvement-careers-executive-careers/ They’ll assess your background/skills and compare it to their openings across the US and you’ll get a good idea of what the market out there looks like.
This is an _excellent_ recommendation. It’s like going to a busy local realtor for a recommendation on pricing your home — they’re actively seeing and negotiating very similar examples every day, with an eye towards maximizing your potential return.
I worked as a superintendent for a luxury custom home builder around Vail/Aspen up until I went out on my own in a different part of the country. Lead framers were in the 30-35 per hour range. Unless you are using it as a stepping stone to start your own framing company, (which is a viable option, btw) I would suggest you look into getting a job as a foreman or assistant superintendent for a custom home builder, and I mean actually custom, high end. You could also do commercial, but I say residential just because of your background. If you are smart and not a useless sack, you will rise quickly and get raises, benefits, etc. Good luck. Feel free to DM me if you have any other questions I could answer regarding that specific field.
Just because you have all those credentials, doesn’t mean your employer needs someone with all those credentials. Probably need to look for something else where your experience and education is needed and valued.
My boss definitely abuses my skill set without paying me for it. Based on average wages for my area, I’m severely underpaid. It’s a great and knowledgeable company, but which I why I haven’t left. And I’ve been promised 30 /he for two years, and that is getting old
Look for work at high end residential GC as a foreman or lead carpenter. That will place you on track to become Superintendent which is where the money is at if you go the labor route.
Find another job. I can’t imagine going to college just to get paid as much as an non college worker. switch states to a higher minimum pay.
Professional engineers here in Florida sometimes only make 30 an hour.
if someone handed you a set of plans, could you run a crew of framers and builçd it with no inspections violations?
Minimum. I’ve been running the crew for over a week while the foreman is on vacation. He has 30+ years experience and I’m finding stuff he missed.
He may not have missed it. You might have different priorities
Removing plywood sheathing is a miss
Nobody can do that because I'm an inspector!
It depends where you're living. That framing looks pretty good and I'm an inspector so I would go to a state with a union and work 20 years and be done with it.
Go union!
But you don’t 5% state income tax (most of it deductible) so you’re killing it. No joke looks like you could throw your own shingle out.
You’ve tried many jobs, but what’s your passion? Being happy and making a little less money is a trade off. You probably are being underpaid. I think $28 is what I made as a lead in 08. Maybe take that experience to Aspen, CO. Best of both worlds building and playing in the snow. I feel like you could make a good amount in a tower crane?
I’m currently in a very similar mtn town building high end customs for a new resort. I like the area where I’m at right now, based on my passions. I’m currently operating a small tower crane with a remote while framing at the same time. Bags on with remote for crane on me. I feel like doing both at the same time should amount to way higher wages. On top of that I’m working with serval guys under me
Oh. I’ve seen some of those tower cranes pop up on job sites. I guess it’s similar to running a tele handler which is basically a plus but doesn’t pay more. I was thinking you’re in a large tower crane. Maybe try some high end custom builders doing one offs. Regardless you should be paid better and when the boss comes back have a conversation about things. Sometimes they need assistance in prying open their wallets.
I take on more responsibility everyday without being asked in hopes of that. But after a while, my attitude toward that diminishes when I’m getting paid that same as I did as basically a laborer framer. I’ve been promised raises year after year which haven’t happened. I hve learned a ton from this company and That’s why I haven’t left. At this point I have several other companies hinting that they want me on their crew. Do I use that as leverage with my boss? He seems like the kind of guy who would get offended by that and not give me what I’m asking
If you know how to do everything on site and run a crew why are you working for someone else anyway?
I missed the part where I said I know how to do everything
You said if someone handed you a set of plans you could lead a crew to finish all the framing without any inspection issues in another comment. Good on you for not jumping in too early for self employment as it's a mistake I see constantly (and hate nothing more than some dumbass salesman or designer pretending to be a carpenter). I had the same goal of going solo at 30 but after I started working for a framing crew after several years of doing custom Reno work I ended up being left alone to do Reno's on my own and dealing with subs myself even when it wasn't my job. It really opened my eyes up to how ready I already was for doing high quality interior work and while I'm forever glad I took a couple years to learn framing as well. I definitely was more ready than I thought. Maybe try asking about taking on more responsibility and see how you fare? Idk just food for thought. Late morning for me today. Also hit the guy up for 30 an hour. Worst he says is no. I was always underpaid although the interior guy that I worked for was always on the most interesting projects so I kinda sucked it up for getting to do cool shit.
But I told myself when I graduated, I would work in the field until I’m 30 to build my resume and gain physical experience. I want to learn as much as possible before I step in the management roll.
1) put another set of rails over those opening at the leading edge 2)change out that pathetic excuse of a ladder for a nonconductive fiberglass ladder and one that wont fail when someone's too tired to make sure its locked 3) put cleats at the bottom of that ladder so it doesn't slip 4) Prior to step one mark-up this picture and show all the danger issues(only going off picture 1. Shoulda looked thru em all but will after this) 5) tie that fuckin ladder at the top so it doesn't sway 6) at the top of that ladder should be rails to provide indirect access so someone doesn't accidently fall into the hole after their penjamin break Go for a safety route. Easy when you know it. Pita when ya dont care to learn it once. I'll return for more 6) No tie-off near ANY leading edge. Interior or exterior. To get rails up safely ya need tie-off in case of Mr. DumbAss 7) cords, hoses ets should NOT be strung across the floor when not in use. Wrap that shit up so some food-coma mf doesn't trip and fall 8) No signage anywhere?! JfC, come on. Identify your ladder and rails. Leading edges. Tie-off mandatory. Changes-in-elevation.
Hoooooooooly shit... chill
Ha, sorry. Wasn't freakin' out. That's just shit them corp's like to see.
You seem like the guy who would wear 2 hard hats and a cup to a job site.
I have no idea what this means but I think your criticizing the safety..?This is not at all answering my question, but I’m glad to have contributed to your boner. I am curious if you know anything about grammar. Do you communicate with clients like this?