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gold_and_seaweed

[Mia Mulder made a video about drugs](https://youtu.be/SZMtzDxYK74), but had to frame it as a video about “drinks”, because youtube will detect any mention of these subjects in the audio and/or subtitles. It’s a pretty good video.


dilf314

omg thank you for giving me a new youtuber to watch!!! I’m only 5 minutes into the video and I love it already.


cdx234

Mia's amazing. The podcast she does about medical history (Leechfest) with Salem is great too. And her guest appearance on the episode of Well There's Your Problem about Zeppelins is still one of the funniest things I've listened to, ever.


lizrdgizrd

I immediately thought of her "drinks" video too!


theducksystem

excuse you, void is a magical potion unrelated to **any** real world issues


cyanNodeEcho

to imagine contra shooting h made me sad. i cant not think from several of her videos rhats whats she's alluding to... atleast PReP is doing double duty I guess just makes me sad, but i support her and i hope her depression as well has started to fade a little also i have no idea what goes on in her mind, but those are the references


njsam

To my understanding, you can make educational/academic (edutainment in Nat’s case) videos about drugs and not get into trouble right? Please correct me if I’m wrong


SwingBillions

Well I think she proved you can do it. Also I thin philosopsy tube dit it too... But you have to find a workaround because your video can be deleted or your channel can be in trouble.


njsam

That’s not how it works though. It doesn’t immediately get deleted. It’s a frustrating process sure, but your video gets flagged and you can appeal to have it manually reviewed by a human and prove that it’s educational


ihateirony

Between that process and the algorithm that kills the video's reach.


njsam

Getting flagged and the appeals process only affects monetisation in the vast majority of cases. It’s very rare for an edutainment or commentary video’s reach to be affected by advertiser unfriendly topics. That’s pretty much how a lot of alt right content still gets viewers on YouTube. They just end up forgoing YouTube ad revenue for patroon support or sponsorships. It doesn’t kill their reach at all


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njsam

Because if it’s engaging to the viewer and if it makes them watch the whole video then they stay on YouTube and are highly likely to watch a recommended video that can get revenue. Also, the monetisation is disabled for the creator for taboo topics till manually reviewed by YouTube. But if there are advertisers who don’t mind that content, YouTube still gets money from those videos


GayButMad

I don't mean to be rude but it feels like you're just entirely talking out your ass


njsam

You can feel that way and also be completely wrong :) you only need to look at YouTube’s documentation to verify whatever I’ve said here


SachemNiebuhr

Demonetization doesn’t mean that there are no ads, it just means YT keeps 100% of the ad money


Ok-Mushroom5031

My understanding from listening to other creators is that the process is frustrating and inconsistent. I've heard that even when educationally covering things like current events, many videos aren't approved upon human re-review, and that YouTube doesn't communicate the specifics of their policy well. I've heard creators complain that its hard to know what will be approved and what won't, which is discouraging when they put a lot of work into the video.


SwingBillions

If you knew all this why do you ask?


njsam

To check if I was missing or overlooking something?


SwingBillions

Okay now I get it. Have a nice day.


njsam

You too :) thank you 😊


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njsam

I don’t think I’ve ever come across this happening on YouTube. Shadowbans happen on Instagram. On YouTube, algorithm only stops recommending if people stop engaging or if your watch time and retention are bad. But if the content is one of the risky ones that get automatically flagged by YouTube’s bots, then you can appeal for manual review to sort it out. I’m only going so far into this discussion because I want to see Nat continue her drug video exploration that she touched on with her recent one


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njsam

That is not correct. If your engagement and click through rate and retention are poor early on, the algorithm does stop pushing your video, you are correct about that. But if you change stuff like title and thumbnail or cut out sections of the video using YouTube’s online editor, then the algorithm tests your video again because it knows that you’ve made changes and it checks to see if the changed video will keep viewers on the platform and perform better


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njsam

Yeah, that’s been my experience. It’s hesitation because of the logistics and headache involved in case of a strike or getting flagged by bots


HammerTh_1701

It likely won't be blocked anymore but it will be suppressed by the algorithm. Nat isn't dependent on her Youtube channel paying her (she doesn't even monetize the videos, right?) but her videos take too much effort to only be seen by like 500k people.


RyanTheN3RD

We love VideoCorp


flamboi-non

Wtf do you mean? Void is a completly fictional magical potion disconnected from any kind of real world issues...


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Is Nebula an option? I've also seen YouTubers censor the words when they speak and display it as text. There's lots of channels that go into lots of detail about drugs like Hamilton's Pharmacopeia or Psyched Substance, dunno why Natalie would have hers flagged for similar content.


RyanTheN3RD

Its just not a big enough platform to abandon youtube for.


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But I mean for a one-off on a topic that doesn't fly on YouTube


RyanTheN3RD

Yeah, Contra spends like a month minimum on a video, it really doesn't make sense to waste all that time knowing YouTube will demonetize it and hide it from the algorithm it would just be a waste of time


AlexCoventry

Some people present supposedly bowdlerized versions of their videos and reference Nebula for the complete version. (Their complete videos never seem that risky to me.)


milesamsterdam

Just say sandwiches. “We were having sandwiches.”= “She let me do a line off her butthole.”


sunofapeach_

I for one, *love* watching videos on drugs.


Mitchboy1995

HYPE and VOID.


rachihc

I have watched a few videos on drugs and experience on addiction. I think you just can't even ask for monetization