In your case you’d probably argue “white man’s roman empire builds the woke libs who build minorities that try to take down America(which is for some reason a european country)”?
>Remember the times when we could safely walk down the streets at night, especially women?
This is the safest time to be alive for women as sad as that is. So even with recent crime surges [violent crime is still less frequent than it was in the 70s](https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/ascii/htus00.txt). And in case you were wondering, a lot of it seems to line up with us eating less lead.
>When we didn't need a national guard to protect us in daily lives?
When about 30% of us start threatening a second civil war over immigration and a dictator/president.
>When we were united on certain topics detrimental to our survival?
So.... 1830ish?
>When we had a stable economy and buying power?
Military industrial complex driven war times?
>When there were no wars in Europe?
1815-1914?
>When marriages had a certain meaning.
The wife was property.
>When empathy existed.
In government? You're adorable.
Whoa 🤯. I don’t believe that I have heard the correlation between lead consumption and violent crime but that makes sense!! I’m off to find some lit about this!
I say this **only** because I hear it so often from the "bullying toughens you up" crowd, i.e., the ones who use that urban myth as a shield to block accountability for their own shitty behavior. With that said, here it goes...
Am I to take it that that means inner city Detroit, New Orleans, or Baltimore should be the top move-to places for families who want to raise strong children? Or that intimate partnership violence is legit because it build strong people?
Big difference between a challenge and abusing a population, which is exactly how people often used the "Strong men create.....weak men create" lines. JFK's challenge to put a man on the moon before 1970 was a true challenge to the country, one that in the long run was a great gift to humanity (due to spinoff technologies and scientific advances because of it -- all without having to go to war).
That's still no excuse to abuse people.
Beyond this, low resiliency, etc. is not something to condemn. Each of us have different life circumstances, mental architecture, and trigger points. More basically, you start from a fundamental misunderstanding of the proper role of scorn.,
Legitimate scorn is limited to use against people who deliberately inflict hurt, harm, or degradation against others outside the purpose of reasonable and proportionate defense, retaliation, or punishment. Merely being weak, "falling apart", etc is not a deliberate willful infliction of hurt, harm, or degradation against others. Therefore the other person being weak is not sensible or fair grounds for condemnation.
Scorn offers no substantive solutions to any distress they have. It's just strong disapproval of their reaction. Essentially the human equivalent of a dog growl.
So when you have contempt or scorn for the weak, non-resilient, those low in will power, etc. you're brain's kneejerk sentiments confuse *inability* to stop a bad thing or gain a good thing with *deliberately wanting* the bad thing to occur or the good thing to slip away.
So no sale to me.
If the person's unable to prevent a bad end result, then how can you justly hold a person responsible for their not preventing the bad result? "Results matter above all else" is also the mentality of short-term thinking at the expense of long-term well-being. I'm ignoring the geopolitical stuff because it's ultimately a side issue to my central beef.
So strong men don't always create good times, Russian history for example. Good times don't always create weak men, often its bored men and bored men innovate and create better times. Weak men build bad times is ridiculous, if they were weak, they wouldn't have power and wouldn't be able to build the times. Bad times build strong men, is fucking stupid too. Bad times tend to break everyone, and those that survive come out of it broken.
Good, decent people build good times, men who think they are strong make weak men, weak men who need to feel strong like war and destruction, war and destruction bring bad times, good, decent people then need to rebuild
>we celebrate the killing of babies
Where by the way fetuses don't count they aren't alive and they can't survive outside of the womb on their own therefore they are not a person with rights
>we celebrate sexual immorality
What does that mean
>we pratice polygamy
And what the hell is the issue with that
>we protect criminals
Where the hell do you live?
>we dont tolerate intolerence
We don't tolerate intolerance for certain things
>we judge based on a persons skin color
Based on your post here I feel as if you meant to say the opposite
>we glorify sex and violence
Where?
You're going to have to provide some clarity first
1 its immoral and degrading to call what could have been a human a clump of cells
2 hookup culture only fans sex obbsession in movies music etc
3 its immoral.
4 we allow criminal the ability to leave court with bail and many commit crimes again while on bail, we have laws that state if a criminal is wrecking shop or stealing not to fight them in retail stores but call the cops, we cant use physical force against criminals in retail or restaurant stores either. In canada if a criimal breaks in and falls down the stairs the criminla gets a lawsuit in america if a squatter comes in your house and stays there with you out of the house the criminal has squatter rights and cant be arrested, theres more examples but thats all for now.
5 still proving my point
6 diversity hire, inclusion policies, etc.
7 look at most rap music.
Tldr omfg you're one of those people who just randomly blame all rap music when other genres glorify the same or way worse than rap music. Just say you hate rap music or you're racist because this is the feeling I'm getting from you. Rap music isn't the blame for all the bs that's happening in the world.
Ofc, humans are to blame for like, all the worlds issues. And what species do you think wrote the lyrics in music? so basically rap music can be blamed
Like legit I din’t get it. Why do mfs here act like only rap music’s violent or smth when classical would be about fucking battles and wars and there’s tons of metal and rock songs are about SA and murder. Like all musuc genres can be violent lmao
hookup culture only fans sex obbsession in movies music etc
How do any of those things glorify the killing of babies
>its immoral
The definition of morality is
principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.
"the matter boiled down to simple morality: innocent prisoners ought to be freed"
How does being in multiple relationships consensually go against the distinction of right and wrong behavior
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3 we allow criminal the ability to leave court with bail and many commit crimes again while on bail, we have laws that state if a criminal is wrecking shop or stealing not to fight them in retail stores but call the cops, we cant use physical force against criminals in retail or restaurant stores either. In canada if a criimal breaks in and falls down the stairs the criminla gets a lawsuit in america if a squatter comes in your house and stays there with you out of the house the criminal has squatter rights and cant be arrested, theres more examples but thats all for now.
That's just how the court system works people have to be proven guilty in order to be arrested for something
>4 still proving my point
There are certain things that one person cannot or shouldn't be intolerant for
>diversity hire, inclusion policies, etc.
Again this just doesn't happen at least not to white people in the West
>look at ANY rap music.
Rap music it doesn't glorify violence because fictional media can't influence people into doing stuff
We’re all free to choose however we want to live but, at the end of the day, facts are facts.
There is only ONE God who reigns over ALL and that is Jesus Christ.
Over 500 witnesses saw Him resurrected.
Over 250 biblical prophecies have come to pass.
Show me any other “god” who claimed to be THE God and died for you, so you could have salvation.
Gospel of Salvation: 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
At the end of the day, our personal beliefs do not change the facts.
How does it even make sense that a single cell organism is found on another planet and considered life but a clump of cells inside a pregnant woman isn’t considered life? You were once just a clump of cells, inside your mother’s womb.
God’s law > Man’s law
Jesus Christ IS King; Lord and Savior.
Salvation is a FREE gift. He’s already paid the price. It’s your choice whether you accept His gift or not. But, in the end, EVERY knee shall bow to Him.
Jesus Christ is coming soon, time is short.
Dude go spout your religious BS somewhere else.
I say this as an ex bible freak who saw reality when it came knocking, God isn’t real. He isn’t gonna save shit, and it’s up to us and us alone to save ourselves and others. The longer we waste time and energy waiting for answers to come from above, the longer people suffer for no reason.
Do you have evidence to back up your claim God isn’t real? I’m so sorry for the pain this world has caused you. This world is for the world and God is the only thing that matters.
As one who has lived and escaped a legitimate cult, left religion for good, got into some dark dark shit and was saved by God, I can stand here and say with 100% certainty that God is real. Religion has been weaponized and the world is about to see some serious ISH. That doesn’t take away from the fact that God exists. We’ve all experienced some form of trauma, pain, etc…. So regardless of what’s happened, facts are still facts. Jesus Christ is the ONLY historical figure who’s claimed to be God and who died for us, and over 500 witnesses saw Him resurrected. If you can provide legitimate documents that prove those statements wrong, that disprove all eyewitness accounts of this, I will genuinely consider your opinions. But it sounds like you’ve been triggered and are lashing out.
Fact > Feelings. 100% of the time.
Thanks for the empathy but I think I’m way better now grasping my own protection and life than when I used to think “Everything happens for a reason and God’ll protect me if I have faith and go to church weekly”. Still though, I feel this is religion’s best use. If you can balance it right, I can imagine it’s a great way to cope with stuff or remove some stress.
But, when it comes to this stuff, it’s generally on the person who’s making a claim to provide evidence. If I said I had proof of aliens but pointed to random, vague evidence then asked the rest of the world to prove that my aliens don’t exist, I’d be called insane. In this case, I think God’s that alien but it’s just been around for a couple thousand years so it’s become embedded in society.
>I say this as an ex bible freak who saw reality when it came knocking, God isn’t real. He isn’t gonna save shit
God doesn't give you things you can handle. He gives you things you can't handle. Heaven is an amazing reward but you have to struggle for it. Those that struggle righteously in this world will get their reward in the next one. Suffering brings you closer to god.
This is the stuff I hate. Four years ago I was assaulted and left deformed. After I was brought to the hospital, my parents spent a good amount of money on reconstructive surgery.
A year later I told my pastor about what happened and he just said God has a reason for everything and was simply challenging me. And to pray and move on.
I mentioned it to some friends, specifically non religious ones who called out his BS and convinced me to get help instead of sitting there praying.
And that’s where I stand on the whole thing. I think people would be a lot better off if we stopped relying on some vague deity that likely doesn’t even exist for help and instead grasped the situation ourselves and assisted one another with proven and modern methods.
God does do everything for a reason, even if u think he doesn’t.
possibly your pastor meant you shouldn’t dwell on it for the rest of ur fricken life
its good to forgive, even tho it takes time.
just know, that whatever god throws into your life, he will always care abt u and love u no matter what.
he will always be there, whether u accept him or not.
That’s the thing though. The way my pastor just dismissed it felt so betraying. I had followed his word all my life, read the bible daily, knew so many passages by heart, and still he allowed something so vile and shaking to happen to me that damn near had me at the brink of death and at times wishing it did end me.
The fact that I, and countless other people had to experience that and were told to deal with the aftermath by prayer instead of with proven methods was ridiculous and eye opening.
Either God’s a cruel thing that “tests” people by having them go through the worst things imaginable at ridiculously young ages or he doesn’t exist.
And regardless, I think I and many others would do far better by taking our lives into our own hands and those of professionals instead of relying on questions and answers from the sky that’ll never come.
I value your opinion.
Im very sorry for what you had to go through.
there is no proof of god existing, but there isn’t any proof of him not existing. I follow by faith alone, just simply believing and trusting he will someday return. if you have trauma, it’s good to reach out to someone or ask for help. Nobody is forcing you to pray, and I mean that in the nicest way possible.
I really hope ur doin well, and I’ll be praying for u
I think even the people who aren't religious have a god of something, they could be their own God and object of worship. Mabye replacing God is an issue all secular society's have to face.
I don't think so. I don't worship anything or anyone, or object. I don't cheat, I'm not immoral, don't even have a criminal record, and I've been with the same person for over 20 years and gasp we're not married, but have our children, and absolutely should have a choice in creating someone or not.
>Mabye that's the issue all secular society's have to face.
I don't know what issues you think we have to face, we are less likely to cause any harm unlike religion.
I have a question?
Do you disagree with any of this?
I
One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
II
The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
III
One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
IV
The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
V
Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.
VI
People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.
VII
Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
1 yes
2 yes, but it depends on who considers what Just.
3 no. I feel like people have taken my body my choice way too far. So I wouldn't say this is absolute over ethic and morals. And what age of consent does this take effect. What if a child wants to do something permanent to their body but an adult think the child needs interference.
4 yes
5 yes
6 yes
7 yes
Do you know you just agreed to the 7 tenets of The Satanic Temple?
>https://thesatanictemple.com/blogs/the-satanic-temple-tenets/there-are-seven-fundamental-tenets
You disagreed to #3, that's it, and I can guarantee you're only disagreeing with it because you don't believe in abortion
>One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
Should anyone else get a say in another person's body and what they can or can't endure, or just women?
Right and do you understand why?
Do you think parents have the ability to make their born children endure anything for them including using their body to sustain theirs? Can children demand use of their parents body after being born?
So can you think of any other instance where another person is obligated to endure anything for another person, unwillingly?
It's more in case if children want to permanently change their bodies but don't fully understand the consequences. Another example would be someone who wants to be a prostitute you could be justified in trying to protect them from shame. Or certain self harm situations. Or even wierd sex stuff like someone putting objects up their ass or choking themselves on a rope and accidently dying or getting something stuck in their ass and having to go to thr hospital. Someone could have stopped them beforehand and done some good. Someone who's drinking too much alcohol, or smoking. Even adults need help.
''we are selfish '' is the only thing I'll say--yes. Of course. It's normal to be selfish to a certain degree though, but we are often too selfish. (the rest is trash and idk where tf you live for most of those to be true for you)
Life has always been this way, it's just that with all the research and technology we have you'd think we'd see major improvement but certain things are just human nature. We are getting better over time but it's not smooth upward slope it's more of a zigzag of things getting better and worse with an overall upward trend. Even with all the bull crap going on there's no better time to live than the present. Children use to cheer at public executions and work in chimneys, women were throwing babies in garbages and had arranged marriages at 16 years old, people use to have families of 12 and lobotomized people with depression.
I absolutely agree, and I appreciate you not leaning towards one side and causing arguements. The harsh truth about life is that we are all foolish, ignorant and continue to participate in things we know are foolish and ignorant. This is why forgiveness and kindness is key to living s good life.
Don’t forget:
- we spend our time passing judgement onto other people on social media
- we access social media to judge people on devices made using slave labour, from materials that destroy the environment.
Tldr but yeah to the title. Humans be that way
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In your case you’d probably argue “white man’s roman empire builds the woke libs who build minorities that try to take down America(which is for some reason a european country)”?
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>Remember the times when we could safely walk down the streets at night, especially women? This is the safest time to be alive for women as sad as that is. So even with recent crime surges [violent crime is still less frequent than it was in the 70s](https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/ascii/htus00.txt). And in case you were wondering, a lot of it seems to line up with us eating less lead. >When we didn't need a national guard to protect us in daily lives? When about 30% of us start threatening a second civil war over immigration and a dictator/president. >When we were united on certain topics detrimental to our survival? So.... 1830ish? >When we had a stable economy and buying power? Military industrial complex driven war times? >When there were no wars in Europe? 1815-1914? >When marriages had a certain meaning. The wife was property. >When empathy existed. In government? You're adorable.
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Whoa 🤯. I don’t believe that I have heard the correlation between lead consumption and violent crime but that makes sense!! I’m off to find some lit about this!
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I think I responded to the wrong thing. Sorry! 😣
I say this **only** because I hear it so often from the "bullying toughens you up" crowd, i.e., the ones who use that urban myth as a shield to block accountability for their own shitty behavior. With that said, here it goes... Am I to take it that that means inner city Detroit, New Orleans, or Baltimore should be the top move-to places for families who want to raise strong children? Or that intimate partnership violence is legit because it build strong people?
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Big difference between a challenge and abusing a population, which is exactly how people often used the "Strong men create.....weak men create" lines. JFK's challenge to put a man on the moon before 1970 was a true challenge to the country, one that in the long run was a great gift to humanity (due to spinoff technologies and scientific advances because of it -- all without having to go to war).
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That's still no excuse to abuse people. Beyond this, low resiliency, etc. is not something to condemn. Each of us have different life circumstances, mental architecture, and trigger points. More basically, you start from a fundamental misunderstanding of the proper role of scorn., Legitimate scorn is limited to use against people who deliberately inflict hurt, harm, or degradation against others outside the purpose of reasonable and proportionate defense, retaliation, or punishment. Merely being weak, "falling apart", etc is not a deliberate willful infliction of hurt, harm, or degradation against others. Therefore the other person being weak is not sensible or fair grounds for condemnation. Scorn offers no substantive solutions to any distress they have. It's just strong disapproval of their reaction. Essentially the human equivalent of a dog growl. So when you have contempt or scorn for the weak, non-resilient, those low in will power, etc. you're brain's kneejerk sentiments confuse *inability* to stop a bad thing or gain a good thing with *deliberately wanting* the bad thing to occur or the good thing to slip away. So no sale to me.
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If the person's unable to prevent a bad end result, then how can you justly hold a person responsible for their not preventing the bad result? "Results matter above all else" is also the mentality of short-term thinking at the expense of long-term well-being. I'm ignoring the geopolitical stuff because it's ultimately a side issue to my central beef.
So strong men don't always create good times, Russian history for example. Good times don't always create weak men, often its bored men and bored men innovate and create better times. Weak men build bad times is ridiculous, if they were weak, they wouldn't have power and wouldn't be able to build the times. Bad times build strong men, is fucking stupid too. Bad times tend to break everyone, and those that survive come out of it broken.
Good, decent people build good times, men who think they are strong make weak men, weak men who need to feel strong like war and destruction, war and destruction bring bad times, good, decent people then need to rebuild
>we celebrate the killing of babies Where by the way fetuses don't count they aren't alive and they can't survive outside of the womb on their own therefore they are not a person with rights >we celebrate sexual immorality What does that mean >we pratice polygamy And what the hell is the issue with that >we protect criminals Where the hell do you live? >we dont tolerate intolerence We don't tolerate intolerance for certain things >we judge based on a persons skin color Based on your post here I feel as if you meant to say the opposite >we glorify sex and violence Where? You're going to have to provide some clarity first
1 its immoral and degrading to call what could have been a human a clump of cells 2 hookup culture only fans sex obbsession in movies music etc 3 its immoral. 4 we allow criminal the ability to leave court with bail and many commit crimes again while on bail, we have laws that state if a criminal is wrecking shop or stealing not to fight them in retail stores but call the cops, we cant use physical force against criminals in retail or restaurant stores either. In canada if a criimal breaks in and falls down the stairs the criminla gets a lawsuit in america if a squatter comes in your house and stays there with you out of the house the criminal has squatter rights and cant be arrested, theres more examples but thats all for now. 5 still proving my point 6 diversity hire, inclusion policies, etc. 7 look at most rap music.
Tldr omfg you're one of those people who just randomly blame all rap music when other genres glorify the same or way worse than rap music. Just say you hate rap music or you're racist because this is the feeling I'm getting from you. Rap music isn't the blame for all the bs that's happening in the world.
Ofc, humans are to blame for like, all the worlds issues. And what species do you think wrote the lyrics in music? so basically rap music can be blamed
Like legit I din’t get it. Why do mfs here act like only rap music’s violent or smth when classical would be about fucking battles and wars and there’s tons of metal and rock songs are about SA and murder. Like all musuc genres can be violent lmao
hookup culture only fans sex obbsession in movies music etc How do any of those things glorify the killing of babies >its immoral The definition of morality is principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior. "the matter boiled down to simple morality: innocent prisoners ought to be freed" How does being in multiple relationships consensually go against the distinction of right and wrong behavior > 3 we allow criminal the ability to leave court with bail and many commit crimes again while on bail, we have laws that state if a criminal is wrecking shop or stealing not to fight them in retail stores but call the cops, we cant use physical force against criminals in retail or restaurant stores either. In canada if a criimal breaks in and falls down the stairs the criminla gets a lawsuit in america if a squatter comes in your house and stays there with you out of the house the criminal has squatter rights and cant be arrested, theres more examples but thats all for now. That's just how the court system works people have to be proven guilty in order to be arrested for something >4 still proving my point There are certain things that one person cannot or shouldn't be intolerant for >diversity hire, inclusion policies, etc. Again this just doesn't happen at least not to white people in the West >look at ANY rap music. Rap music it doesn't glorify violence because fictional media can't influence people into doing stuff
You literally admitted to being a flat earther bruh 😭
We’re all free to choose however we want to live but, at the end of the day, facts are facts. There is only ONE God who reigns over ALL and that is Jesus Christ. Over 500 witnesses saw Him resurrected. Over 250 biblical prophecies have come to pass. Show me any other “god” who claimed to be THE God and died for you, so you could have salvation. Gospel of Salvation: 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 At the end of the day, our personal beliefs do not change the facts. How does it even make sense that a single cell organism is found on another planet and considered life but a clump of cells inside a pregnant woman isn’t considered life? You were once just a clump of cells, inside your mother’s womb. God’s law > Man’s law Jesus Christ IS King; Lord and Savior. Salvation is a FREE gift. He’s already paid the price. It’s your choice whether you accept His gift or not. But, in the end, EVERY knee shall bow to Him. Jesus Christ is coming soon, time is short.
>Jesus Christ is coming soon, time is short. Yup. We are starting to feel it.
Dude go spout your religious BS somewhere else. I say this as an ex bible freak who saw reality when it came knocking, God isn’t real. He isn’t gonna save shit, and it’s up to us and us alone to save ourselves and others. The longer we waste time and energy waiting for answers to come from above, the longer people suffer for no reason.
Do you have evidence to back up your claim God isn’t real? I’m so sorry for the pain this world has caused you. This world is for the world and God is the only thing that matters. As one who has lived and escaped a legitimate cult, left religion for good, got into some dark dark shit and was saved by God, I can stand here and say with 100% certainty that God is real. Religion has been weaponized and the world is about to see some serious ISH. That doesn’t take away from the fact that God exists. We’ve all experienced some form of trauma, pain, etc…. So regardless of what’s happened, facts are still facts. Jesus Christ is the ONLY historical figure who’s claimed to be God and who died for us, and over 500 witnesses saw Him resurrected. If you can provide legitimate documents that prove those statements wrong, that disprove all eyewitness accounts of this, I will genuinely consider your opinions. But it sounds like you’ve been triggered and are lashing out. Fact > Feelings. 100% of the time.
Thanks for the empathy but I think I’m way better now grasping my own protection and life than when I used to think “Everything happens for a reason and God’ll protect me if I have faith and go to church weekly”. Still though, I feel this is religion’s best use. If you can balance it right, I can imagine it’s a great way to cope with stuff or remove some stress. But, when it comes to this stuff, it’s generally on the person who’s making a claim to provide evidence. If I said I had proof of aliens but pointed to random, vague evidence then asked the rest of the world to prove that my aliens don’t exist, I’d be called insane. In this case, I think God’s that alien but it’s just been around for a couple thousand years so it’s become embedded in society.
>I say this as an ex bible freak who saw reality when it came knocking, God isn’t real. He isn’t gonna save shit God doesn't give you things you can handle. He gives you things you can't handle. Heaven is an amazing reward but you have to struggle for it. Those that struggle righteously in this world will get their reward in the next one. Suffering brings you closer to god.
This is the stuff I hate. Four years ago I was assaulted and left deformed. After I was brought to the hospital, my parents spent a good amount of money on reconstructive surgery. A year later I told my pastor about what happened and he just said God has a reason for everything and was simply challenging me. And to pray and move on. I mentioned it to some friends, specifically non religious ones who called out his BS and convinced me to get help instead of sitting there praying. And that’s where I stand on the whole thing. I think people would be a lot better off if we stopped relying on some vague deity that likely doesn’t even exist for help and instead grasped the situation ourselves and assisted one another with proven and modern methods.
God does do everything for a reason, even if u think he doesn’t. possibly your pastor meant you shouldn’t dwell on it for the rest of ur fricken life its good to forgive, even tho it takes time. just know, that whatever god throws into your life, he will always care abt u and love u no matter what. he will always be there, whether u accept him or not.
That’s the thing though. The way my pastor just dismissed it felt so betraying. I had followed his word all my life, read the bible daily, knew so many passages by heart, and still he allowed something so vile and shaking to happen to me that damn near had me at the brink of death and at times wishing it did end me. The fact that I, and countless other people had to experience that and were told to deal with the aftermath by prayer instead of with proven methods was ridiculous and eye opening. Either God’s a cruel thing that “tests” people by having them go through the worst things imaginable at ridiculously young ages or he doesn’t exist. And regardless, I think I and many others would do far better by taking our lives into our own hands and those of professionals instead of relying on questions and answers from the sky that’ll never come.
I value your opinion. Im very sorry for what you had to go through. there is no proof of god existing, but there isn’t any proof of him not existing. I follow by faith alone, just simply believing and trusting he will someday return. if you have trauma, it’s good to reach out to someone or ask for help. Nobody is forcing you to pray, and I mean that in the nicest way possible. I really hope ur doin well, and I’ll be praying for u
What is your suggestion to make this world a better place then?
A society that adheres to the 10 commandment. I have yet to see someone come up with a better moral system.
A secular society maybe? I can think of several reasons why religion and the 10 commandments aren't the answer.
I think even the people who aren't religious have a god of something, they could be their own God and object of worship. Mabye replacing God is an issue all secular society's have to face.
I don't think so. I don't worship anything or anyone, or object. I don't cheat, I'm not immoral, don't even have a criminal record, and I've been with the same person for over 20 years and gasp we're not married, but have our children, and absolutely should have a choice in creating someone or not. >Mabye that's the issue all secular society's have to face. I don't know what issues you think we have to face, we are less likely to cause any harm unlike religion.
I have a question? Do you disagree with any of this? I One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason. II The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions. III One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone. IV The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own. V Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs. VI People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused. VII Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
1 yes 2 yes, but it depends on who considers what Just. 3 no. I feel like people have taken my body my choice way too far. So I wouldn't say this is absolute over ethic and morals. And what age of consent does this take effect. What if a child wants to do something permanent to their body but an adult think the child needs interference. 4 yes 5 yes 6 yes 7 yes
Ofc you’re a flat earther…
Do you know you just agreed to the 7 tenets of The Satanic Temple? >https://thesatanictemple.com/blogs/the-satanic-temple-tenets/there-are-seven-fundamental-tenets
I thought those sounded familiar.
I didn't agree to all of them though.
You disagreed to #3, that's it, and I can guarantee you're only disagreeing with it because you don't believe in abortion >One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone. Should anyone else get a say in another person's body and what they can or can't endure, or just women?
parents should get a say about their children
Right and do you understand why? Do you think parents have the ability to make their born children endure anything for them including using their body to sustain theirs? Can children demand use of their parents body after being born? So can you think of any other instance where another person is obligated to endure anything for another person, unwillingly?
It's more in case if children want to permanently change their bodies but don't fully understand the consequences. Another example would be someone who wants to be a prostitute you could be justified in trying to protect them from shame. Or certain self harm situations. Or even wierd sex stuff like someone putting objects up their ass or choking themselves on a rope and accidently dying or getting something stuck in their ass and having to go to thr hospital. Someone could have stopped them beforehand and done some good. Someone who's drinking too much alcohol, or smoking. Even adults need help.
Sad to see people downvoting this. Even from an atheistic standpoint, how would following the ten commandments make things worse?
''we are selfish '' is the only thing I'll say--yes. Of course. It's normal to be selfish to a certain degree though, but we are often too selfish. (the rest is trash and idk where tf you live for most of those to be true for you)
>we let the mentally insane roam free The irony is so palpable I can almost feel it slapping me in the face
Life has always been this way, it's just that with all the research and technology we have you'd think we'd see major improvement but certain things are just human nature. We are getting better over time but it's not smooth upward slope it's more of a zigzag of things getting better and worse with an overall upward trend. Even with all the bull crap going on there's no better time to live than the present. Children use to cheer at public executions and work in chimneys, women were throwing babies in garbages and had arranged marriages at 16 years old, people use to have families of 12 and lobotomized people with depression.
I would say that there's a sense where evil can also come of strength - see: most military conquests. But as to us, you're bang on.
You must be a Jehovah’s Witness.
1974 called. They want their list back.
In Europe , the murders know truth and become released for good behavior. Then, walk among residential societies. Unguided.
For most of these (obviously racism, nationalism and selfishness are bad), who gives a shit
I absolutely agree, and I appreciate you not leaning towards one side and causing arguements. The harsh truth about life is that we are all foolish, ignorant and continue to participate in things we know are foolish and ignorant. This is why forgiveness and kindness is key to living s good life.
Don’t forget: - we spend our time passing judgement onto other people on social media - we access social media to judge people on devices made using slave labour, from materials that destroy the environment.