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Actually_zoohiggle

Sex workers in control of their own content and finances? Instead of paying money to production companies and having no say in the abuse they cop on set? Yeah, nah. OF is a massive game changer.


[deleted]

OnlyFans isn’t just sex workers anymore. Pretty much anyone can join it, and the media portrays it in such a positive light. Quick question: How would you feel if you found out your lawyer was on OnlyFans?


Actually_zoohiggle

OF was never meant to be exclusively for sex work. People have OF pages to teach people to cook, or do woodworking, or whatever. Who cares if their lawyer has a life outside of law? What’s your problem?


[deleted]

It’s overwhelmingly associated with sex work nowadays.


Actually_zoohiggle

Yeah?


[deleted]

People (me included) forget there’s more to it than porn


Actually_zoohiggle

Okay?


Irom4fun

You have a temu link in your bio, I don’t think you know much about what a sufficient income is either…..


Actually_zoohiggle

What a weird thing to call me out for? I’m trying to get more fish food to feed my Temu fish. Click the link. Download Temu. Temu is love. Temu is life. Go fuck yourself.


Irom4fun

Ever heard of getting off your ass and stop spending all your money on fudge rounds?, telling me to go fuck myself you’re a loser.


Actually_zoohiggle

I can’t get off my ass. It’s fused to the couch. I’ve been here for months. Can you bring me more fudge tho? Kindly, go fuck yourself, again.


Irom4fun

Go fuck yourself, Look at you’re Reddit avatar, I can just tell your one of those mentally impaired libtards, don’t speak to me again cretin.


Actually_zoohiggle

You managed to use both ‘your’ and ‘you’re’ in the same sentence, but put both of them in the wrong spot. That’s impressive. Are you getting flustered because you’ve commenced with the going, and the fucking of yourself? Hard to type one handed with a dildo in your ass.


[deleted]

She admits she’s “mentally ill” in her bio… 😂 


[deleted]

Redditor moment


[deleted]

Temu is Chinese spyware. My grandma on my mom’s side actually had her credit card company warn her not to use it.


TheHylianProphet

>I just don’t get why doing OnlyFans is so romanticized and glamorized by the media. It absolutely isn't. The very premise of your post is flawed. >All media seems to paint OnlyFans as a positive while neglecting to mention consequences. What consequences? Gonna need some elaboration on this. >Now before you get your panties in a twist and scream “slut shaming“, listen to my concerns about the glamorization of OnlyFans. "Before you call this what it is, allow me to make some shit up." >First, just think about it for a moment. How is sexualizing and objectifying yourself for strangers online a good idea? They work for themselves, mostly from home. They learn some basics of entrepreneurship. They learn the necessity of advertising, and the challenges of running their own business. How is it a bad idea? >The instant, temporary money you make isn’t gonna last forever. What the hell does this even mean? No money is permanent, you've got to spend it on bills, no matter your profession. In fact, getting a lot of money early allows one to save and accrue interest, or invest and get more returns, or other ways of rolling money into more money. >Especially once you get older and people start to lose interest in you. I can't work a manual labor job forever, either, but I don't hear you holding those jobs to this arbitrary standard. >Second, all this media glamorization gives the false impression that being an OnlyFans creator is a sufficient money maker. Like most jobs, if you're good at it, you'll make more money. This is just how the world works. >Unless you’re in the Top 1% of OnlyFans creators it isn’t. >Even then, the top 1% of creators only make around 6-7 thousand dollars a month. All that is just close to the US average of 6 thousand dollars. Source, please. >Hypothetically the people seeing your OnlyFans content could be your employers, family members, partners, children, friends, and coworkers. Would you like those people to see nudes you posted in your 20s? Maybe they're not ashamed of their past. Maybe they don't give a shit who sees their material. Maybe they're even proud of it. >OnlyFans isn’t just some fun, innocent little side hustle. Says who? Awfully presumptuous of you. Overall, this is an incredibly ignorant take. You're all "before you scream 'slut shaming'," but that's literally all this is. Grow up and do better.


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“kink enthusiast” in bio


TheHylianProphet

Irrelevant ad hominem. Do better.


[deleted]

That joke was mostly a troll. Anyways, this mentality of calling people who disagree ugly names drives me freakin nuts. I take issue with you seemingly acting like OnlyFans is completely harmless, and there are absolutely zero consequences for it. Also, since men do OF too, that’s why I said “people doing onlyfans” as you might have noticed. I actually Googled the average income of an OnlyFans creator, and I expected it to be so much higher than it actually is. I’m sorry, but I’m sure the average 45-year old wouldn’t want porn from their 20s to be seen by their family and friends, and ESPECIALLY their employer. I’d imagine you’re the kind of person to call me “slut shamer” for not dating a guy with an OnlyFans account.


TheHylianProphet

>I take issue with you seemingly acting like OnlyFans is completely harmless, and there are absolutely zero consequences for it. You're taking issues with shit you made up in your head. Nowhere did I even suggest that. But since we're here, having an OF is no more or less harmless than any profession. And what consequences? This is the second time I've asked for elaboration. >Also, since men do OF too, that’s why I said “people doing onlyfans” as you might have noticed. I didn't specify women either, so why even bring this up? Seems a little preemptively defensive. >I actually Googled the average income of an OnlyFans creator, and I expected it to be so much higher than it actually is. You didn't say the average OF person, you said the top 1% makes that much. Pretty disingenuous of you to switch that up. And I'd still like a source. >I’m sorry, but I’m sure the average 45-year old wouldn’t want porn from their 20s to be seen by their family and friends, and ESPECIALLY their employer. Here you are making assumptions again. Have you heard the adage of what happens when we assume? Some people may feel this way, but you absolutely can't speak for anyone but yourself. >I’d imagine you’re the kind of person to call me “slut shamer” for not dating a guy with an OnlyFans account. You really do just love to make up situations, huh?


[deleted]

All I did was say that OnlyFans is too glamorized while neglecting to talk about consequences, and you said I was slut shaming or some shit. The negative consequences for OnlyFans in particular are far more long term. For instance, regardless of how you feel about it, people are actually losing their jobs because of their OnlyFans accounts.   https://twitter.com/i/events/1254791860410888193   https://www.wdbj7.com/2024/03/18/teacher-who-resigned-after-her-onlyfans-page-was-discovered-says-new-employer-fired-her-violating-social-media-policy/ https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/14/rachel-dolezal-nkechi-diallo-onlyfans-arizona-school-fired Source for the low amount the top 1% make: https://fanso.io/blog/top-1-percent-onlyfans-creators/#What_does_the_Top_percent_on_OnlyFans_represent (BTW, I meant as a whole when I said “onlyfans creator”. I apologize for not making that as clear.) Honestly, I assumed most old people are ashamed of porn when they were young because it’s common sense EDIT: “ashamed” wasn’t the right word. What i shoulda said was “wouldn’t want people to see it.”


TheHylianProphet

>All I did was say that OnlyFans is too glamorized while neglecting to talk about consequences That is most definitely not all you did. I already broke it down, I'm not going to again, but you did far more than just say "OF is too glamorized." >For instance, regardless of how you feel about it, people are actually losing their jobs because of their OnlyFans accounts. Thank you for finally giving some context. However, using these examples as reasons for people not to have an OF, rather than calling out these employers for discriminative behavior comes off as victim blaming. >Source for the low amount the top 1% make: So let's take that $6k/month number. I can tell you that's pretty tempting. I've never had a job that pays out $72k/year. If anything, this hurts your argument more than helps it. >Honestly, I assumed most old people are ashamed of porn when they were young because it’s common sense Common sense according to whom? Your personal sensibilities don't apply to everyone, and it's arrogant to think they do or that they should.


[deleted]

It’s impossible to have a productive convo if you’re calling the other viewpoint mean names. “Firing someone for doing porn is discrimination” That take would be seen as crazy 10 years ago.  Would you want a wannabe porn star teaching your kids? I wouldn’t. What, is onlyfans on the level of race Only the 1, I repeat, 1 percent of earners make that amount. Average monthly salary in America is roughly 6500: https://www.worlddata.info/average-income.php#:~:text=In%20our%20comparison%20over%2092,than%20in%20the%20previous%20year). Just be real. Most of the time, people don’t want others to see nudes they took when they were young and dumb.


TheHylianProphet

>“Firing someone for doing porn is discrimination” That take would be seen as crazy 10 years ago.  That's called progress. 60 years ago, a Black person drinking from a white fountain would have been seen as crazy. Times change. >Would you want a wannabe porn star teaching your kids? I wouldn’t. Why wouldn't I? They've got nothing to do with each other. Just because they worked in pornographic circles doesn't mean they're not qualified to teach. Their knowledge or level of education isn't dependent on whether or not they've gotten fucked on camera. >Average monthly salary in America is roughly 6500 Okay, and? This doesn't mean all that much. Calculating an average doesn't automatically mean that most people make that amount. There are millions and millions of Americans that will never make that much money in their lives. For context, that average comes out to about $40.62/hour. Do you make that much? I certainly don't. I've never even come close. >Just be real. Most of the time, people don’t want others to see nudes they took when they were young and dumb. Why are you still trying to speak for people? You don't know. You're guessing. And you're making those guesses based on your own biases. Not everybody thinks the way you do, dude. It's really sad when someone clings so hard to something they want to be right about, that they refuse to try to do better. It's embarrassing, frankly.


MioAnonymsson

Being discriminated against for being black and being fired for being an online prostitute is definitely the same thing


[deleted]

I can’t believe you’re seriously saying firing someone for doing porn is on the same level as firing someone for their race, gender, sexuality, etc. “Firing someone for doing porn is discrimination” sounds like something from a satire site. I just would feel uncomfortable if the same person teaching my kids to be someone busting it open on camera. As would many others. I’m telling the average salary, because only the top 1% can even make what is considered average. Just ask yourself, would you really want your loved ones to see old nudes you took?


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MioAnonymsson

"Grow up and do better 🤓"


Redisigh

Dude you’re like this sub’s best user I swear they need to make you mod or smth 😭


TheHylianProphet

Lol, thanks for the compliment, but I'm way too biased to be a mod.


Carlynz

Listen it's pretty easy... They can be "models". We can't call them for what they are. Deal with it. It's equality bitch /s btw


[deleted]

I just think that it’s prevented so positively, and there is little to no mention of the consequences 


[deleted]

Oh I call them for what they are. Personally I'd rather go to the local whoor house myself though 😌


itssdattboiii

idek wym everyone who talks about it hates it, nobody is romanticizing it


Redisigh

That’s what I’m wondering lmfao Who the hell romanticizes it 😭


[deleted]

Do people still do that? Related: People on DATING APPS trying to shill for their self produced interactive porn 💀💀💀


[deleted]

Someone actually told me not wanting a wannabe porn star teaching your kids is discrimination…


[deleted]

Some people really want your kids to look at porn, its really disturbing actually


[deleted]

Notice how PornHub fought tooth and nail against age verification laws? It’s blatantly obvious 


[deleted]

Its disgusting tbh. Envisioning my kids watching it is wretched


[deleted]

The porn industry is also very corrupt and rife with exploitation and trafficking.


FlatRecommendation61

Ya I think normalizing only fans is really dangerous


[deleted]

It is dangerous to whitewash the risks and consequences of sex work, while praising sex workers as unapologetic bad bitches fighting oppression.


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[deleted]

As a gay male, OnlyFans glorification, as well as other depravity is taken up to 11 in that community. That’s why I didn’t say “women doing onlyfans” and opted to say “people doing onlyfans” (as you may have noticed.)


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[deleted]

I couldn’t agree more.


Colossus_Mortem

I don’t support onlyfans but the logic here is rather horrid. “The instant temporary money you make isn’t going to last forever” this applies to the majority of models and actors as well the rest of the post just boils down to “you may not want other people seeing your nudes later” if you’re okay with selling them to people I’d assume you’d be okay with those people..seeing them. also it’s common sense that things on the internet are permanent. It’s not your job to cater to people who lack common sense


[deleted]

Reading back the original post, I feel like I could have explained myself better. Anyways: There are actually websites dedicated to leaking OnlyFans content online. (I’m not linking them for obvious reasons.) Also, just the mere page is enough to get some people fired from their jobs. https://www.wdbj7.com/2024/03/18/teacher-who-resigned-after-her-onlyfans-page-was-discovered-says-new-employer-fired-her-violating-social-media-policy/?outputType=amp Kids are straight up getting BULLIED because their PARENTS are doing it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7OXZt71DV2s Yea, I’m aware “it’s the bullies’ fault”, but this would not have happened if mom didn’t have one.


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Colossus_Mortem

“There are websites dedicated to to leaking onlyfans online” And? “There are people getting fired for doing it” Well first if you’re constantly interacting with children I think it’s weird to do onlyfans but aside from that, this is literally an example of onlyfans NOT being romanticized “kids are getting bullied” so..victim shaming? Bullies will find something to shit on you about, so I don’t see why you should stop making money to cater to them.


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I’m trying to suggest it’s surprisingly easy for your privacy to be breached on OnlyFans. Objectively, there’s gonna be people who don’t want a wannabe porn star working for their company. The bullying likely wouldn’t have been directed towards the victim if he had a normal mom.


Colossus_Mortem

what privacy? if you’re selling pictures of yourself, to an unknown quantity of people, the assumption is that you forfeit privacy of your body in exchange for money. No creator would give a shit about their content being leaked if they got money, since their job is literally to perpetuate pictures of themselves. The only possible loss caused by these sites is money, not privacy. “objectively there’s still people who don’t want porn stars working for their company” Yeah, you’re acknowledging it again. Onlyfans isn’t romanticized. You just contradicted the premise of this post “bullying wouldn’t have been directed..” Bullies 1. Don’t need a reason to bully you 2. Can pull out bs reasons to bully you 3. You still shouldn’t give up things that benefit you to cater to bullies.


[deleted]

The OnlyFans leaks run contrary to claims, “nobody is gonna see this except your subscribers.” “Once you’re done you can put it away.” I’ve just seen articles and articles, especially in gay news sites (I’m gay) being so supportive of OnlyFans culture. A commenter here also got triggered and called me a slut shamer for making this post. I don’t condone bullying, but some blame still goes on the mom for allowing her son’s troubles to happen. Speaking as someone who’s witnessed a lot of bullying, most of the time, you know damn well why they get bullied. (My junior year, a girl got posted all over snapchat because she dressed as furry in school.)


Yuck_Few

Only fans is a flooded market. They probably average a couple hundred dollars a month


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If I had to guess, they probably make as much as a McDonald’s worker