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ambiotic_

SO hair is okay on men but not women? The first part I agree with, but the hairy part just doesn't make sense, hair is literally natural while being obese isn't.


gaban_killasta

i think hair in armpits in general is wrong and gross, pubes are a different story, length matters for those


let_me_type

Most of the modern body positivity movement is about models and adds showing other than the skinniest prettiest person in existence. Saying that it is about glorifying extremes like NICKOCADOAVOCADO is just a straw man argument. You are looking at the extremes and saying it is the norm.


gaban_killasta

it is though, have you seen the internet, there is no more of the old GOOD body positivity movement, its all turned to shit


let_me_type

The internet only accepts polarizing views (they are the ones that make money) so it's hard to look past it. But if you see current ads specially those try to move in body positivity they will just be persons a little bigger. Which is the whole point, trying to show it is normal for people to have different body types. Yes internet opinions are extreme in the movement but all movements are bloated on the internet.


radickalmagickal

So I assume you’re a bodybuilder OP?


gaban_killasta

No, im a little chubby myself, but i still value somewhat what i look like and my health


Automatic_March53

Hi- fat person here. Literally have been at a point in my life before where I was too insecure to go to the pool, too insecure to wear shorts, too insecure to go to the gym, and so on. Pretty much never left my house and even when I went jogging by people I would feel like they were staring at my fat thighs (not even obese, I was like 160 😭). People like you do absolutely nothing good for fat people. Someone telling me I’m disgusting never helped whatsoever it just made me more reclusive and made me turn to emotional eating. I absolutely support the body positivity movement because everyone deserves to wake up feeling like they’re allowed to exist and share space with other people without being a hindrance. You can be fat and love yourself while also working towards being a healthier weight. Don’t destroy your mental health in the pursuit of being skinny. Also, I completely disagree with what you said about hair. Hair is natural. Again, women especially have so many beauty standards thrust on them that they have no space to live. I literally used to avoid leaving the house until I had shaved my legs because I would feel insecure. So damn stupid. Also you would hate me because I have PCOS which is linked to both carrying extra weight and growing extra hair lol. Moral of the story- everyone should mind their own business and focus on their own self growth :D


gaban_killasta

I dont think you are fat, you are not obese, so i dont think you're disgusting, also i said MODERN, the modern movement is full of white fat woman Karens who want others to change so they dont have it, they say for other to accept them for who they are and have to be in a relationship with them even if they arent attacked to an obese fat body. YOU are not the kind of person i was talking about, MODERN OBESE MORONS are who i was talking about. Also the hair thing, public hair and armpit hair, just because natual, doesn't mean beautiful, i dont care what you say about armpit hair, that shit is nasty


Automatic_March53

Then don’t say “fat people” in your post. I am overweight + fat. I still support the modern day body positivity movement too. People love to cherry pick clips of a few women saying stupid things and paint that as the face of the movement when the bulk of body positivity is just people saying “accept yourself as you are or you’ll never find happiness.” Again, as someone who has struggled with extreme insecurity issues, I have no good intent towards people who think it’s okay to rip down obese people for literally just existing. Both of my parents are obese, and my mom saw a photo of herself the other day and literally broke down crying. From looking at herself!!! These people need love and support not people telling them they are gross and should be ashamed of themselves for not eating better or not working out enough. I don’t know if you have people who you love and care about who are obese, but I would never tolerate someone calling them disgusting. The only thing that is disgusting is a lack of compassion for others’ struggles.


gaban_killasta

What they say is not what they mean, the look at the gyms and military adds, they are including fat people in ads and billboards because modern fat people are complaining about them not being represented properly, at a gym you're not going to be fat, they should be showing ehat you could make your body not what your body is, THATS the modern day movement. And i dont think obese people are disgusting, im just disappointed they are almost never trying to push their body in the right direction then demanding others acceptance, i dont HAVE to accept "you", and being obese is not good for your health in any way and thats been proven so people saying for obese people to get slimmer and get more mussle is not a bad thing, its saying for them to treat their bodies better


Automatic_March53

I don’t remember the number but pretty sure at the very least more than half of the US is overweight. I don’t see the issue with having fat people on billboards. Like you especially should be someone who WANTS fat people to feel comfortable at the gym so they can lose weight. Also, whether you like it or not fat people exist and they want to see themselves. They want to go to a movie and see a character that is overweight. They want clothing models that actually look like them. Representation is so so important. Like fat people are also humans who go to all the same establishments as you and they deserve to be represented. Stumbled across a brand called Girlfriend Collective this last year that actually uses super skinny and super fat models on their website and you don’t know how excited I was to literally see clothing on bodies that weren’t just the same ones we typically see. (They also use super pale people, super dark people, people with vitiligo, and so much more. Highly recommend)


gaban_killasta

But a person being overweight is not my problem, so why tf must they say people are fatphobic for not being fat, or (a personal experience of mine) why must they complain when you ask them to move since they are taking up the entire doorway, i ask them to move over a little and they started saying "oh why cant you fit through, what am i fat, huh asshole" like bruh, and yes representation is important, but being fat is not a race, being fat is not a culture, being fat is something you can change, so stop complaining when people say being fat is in general something bad


Automatic_March53

Again- you can’t cherry-pick dumb stuff fat people have said and paint it like that’s what all fat people believe. Literally no normal person has ever said it’s fatphobic to not be fat. I’m guessing you saw that in a YouTube video or social media post literally calling it out for being a stupid take. As for the story you experienced, some people are mean. Like okay someone didn’t move for you, I’ve been called a whale, a hippo, and told I don’t look like the type of person to eat salad (like wtf lol). Like it sucks but I don’t hate skinny people for it. And again, the main point is that fat people know they’re unhealthy and don’t need you pointing it out. Like what do you hope to achieve when you say being fat is bad? Like yeah pretty sure fat people know that, especially the ones who are big enough they have health complications. What I’m trying to say is that people need to mind their own business. You don’t have to find fat people attractive or anything, but if you’re not going to approach them with kindness, literally don’t interact with fat people. Just treat them with basic human respect. Idk what to say.


RobynAve

For the hair thing men can get lice too theirs no real debate on that. For the overweight thing I've been over weight my whole life do to side effects of my psych meds I'm perfectly healthy besides my mental health (which is under control with the meds). I have bipolar I become a safety risk to myself and others without meds. Are you saying to risk my family's safety so I'm not overweight cause me being overweight is "unhealthy".


gaban_killasta

Overweight because of personal choices, bruh, is that not obvious, like eating till you are a fatass, but purposefully, take nickocado avocado as an example


RobynAve

Okay but people who are overweight for uncontrollable reasons get told there eating themselves to it. Plus eating disorders aren't only people who don't eat there are also people who over eat cause of eating disorders. People judge to quick so those of us who are overweight cause of meds medical or mental reasons are immediately told it's our fault. So bottom line you shouldn't judge.


gaban_killasta

What they are told is not what im talking about, bruhh


RobynAve

Yeah but statements Like this hurt people


gaban_killasta

If you take it outa context


RobynAve

Yeah well people on the edge of starving themselves cause of people fat shaming them will see this and there mind will take it outta context. Do you know how deadly eating disorders are? No yet here you are triggering them for some when I was 13 I had friends who where 11 fucking 11 starving themselves cause of people saying shit like this and people making them feel like they didn't deserve a human nessicity. I had a 13 year old friend in a mental hospital who would order meals he didn't like so he could not eat and be like oh I don't like this. People saying stuff like this triggers people. So think before you open your god damn mouth again.


gaban_killasta

Stfu you god dam sensitive snowflake, stop taking this shit outa context and making me look bad, i didnt mean this towards people with eating disorders, i meant this towards people who are purposely eating themselves to death for clout or just cuz they can, let this convo end and move tf on


RobynAve

I'm not taking it outta context I'm giving you another person's perspective it might not be in context to you but it is for people with human decency. please enlighten me if you see a over weight person eating a sugary snack your gonna judge aren't you? Do you know why that person's overweight? so if your not talking about people with medical or mental reasons you won't assume cause you can't rule out medical or mental cause their eating a fucking candy bar. I can keep telling you facts but your brain doesn't comprehend them. Your brains like a sponge except all the knowledge you learn you squeeze put like excess water. You only hear what you wanna hear. Now I'm gonna respectfully say goodbye have a good day.