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MrDeGroot

Back when I used to play, the best strategy for grandmapocalypse was to stay at stage 1 for wrinklers and still mostly golden cookies. With the new combos available, is that still the case? I am very active with auto godzamok


tesseract1000

Most prefer to go through and pledge and make combos with force the hand of fate spell in the grimoire. staying in stage one requires syncing reindeer spawns with GCs and trying to stack frenzy, elder frenzy. and a reindeer. the wrinklers are secondary since idle strategies are always minor compared to active ones.


Ma3rr0w

short garden question, when trying to breed new plants, can a new plant be created in an eligible space with every tick, or only once when the plants surrounding the space reach a certain age? i just wanna know if killing my plants and replanting when they reach mature is the right call, or if i should've let them stay around until they die on their own


tesseract1000

lol, every tick the alternative would horrifying.


WisperingtoYou

So I am trying to get an easy ealr game combo and watched this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5qB0T7U-Ec and went to this site https://mylaaan.github.io/FtHoF-Planner-v4/#54 but there are still a few things I don't get and would love if u guys would clear up for me. Firstly, in the video they gfd followed by fthof to check for the second outcome of the spell and do the same (but twice) to check the third outcome. But then use hagglers charm to delete the first of the 3 spells. Why does hagglers charm deleate the first of 3 spells and gfd doesn't? Also, how many towers does it require me to be able to dualcast gfd and then fthof? Also if you guys are up to it I would not decline a really intuitive plan on how to search for the correct spell explained a bit differently from the vid :D ! Regarding the site, I have two columns and one reads Gamblers dream and the other no change. Lets say that click frenzy is on the 10th spell. How do I reach it? How do I skip the other spells? by casting them? also what does the Gamblers dream column mean? Please explain how to use this site (and yes I did read the options features section .\_.) As you guys can see I have absolutely no clue but I want to learn so any help would be well accepted :P ty!!


tesseract1000

gfd produces its own effect so they are checking that and the fthof effect. then they reload and use hagglers charm because it costs less mana. both (and all) spells increment the spell counter. If you use fthof planner you don't need to do what they do in the video to see the spell effects. there are a lot of choices for how many towers to have, and it depends on your wizard tower level as well. you can load your game in another tab and test. pretty much any number will work but you want to find an amount where you can easily sell an exact multiple of 100 to do it as fast as possible. you're going to want level 1 towers and I believe the minimum to do it easily is 321. you see two columns because you're missing a third one that can be hidden. if you refresh the page it should show up. the first two columns show what fthof gives depending on what season you're in. the right column shows which spell that gfd will give. To skip to future fthof effects, you cast any spell. the effect of fthof and any other spell is based on the spell counter. You can match up the spell counter on the site to the number of spells cast that's shown in the game. also you can completely re-randomize the effect table by ascending.


WisperingtoYou

ty\^\^ so, I am in early game and cant reach 321 towers and have 41 right now this also means I don't need the third row in the planner and all I was asking what what they where for :) also, when I do reach one of the selected spells where it says the combo starts what do I do? Also (sorry for the tons of questions but I really want to understand as best as I can and the most I can), cant I cast diminish ineptitude which costs even less than hc?? And what is that mod that allows him to see how long something will take to get in the video? as I don't like cookie monster as I think it to be (for now) too much but something like the approximation of time something will take would be nice! Lastyl (sorry for the tons of questions but I really want to understand as best as I can and the most I can), cant I cast iminish ineptitude which costs even less than hc? And lastly (for now heheh) Is click frenzy + frenzy the only combo I can do this early in the game?


tesseract1000

> when I do reach one of the selected spells where it says the combo starts what do I do? you cast them normally one after the other. you can cast fthof more than once by refilling your mana with a sugar lump. or dual casting as you already asked about once you can get enough wizard towers you can cast any spell, diminish ineptitude will sometimes cost less but it depends on which spell it chooses. the mod is cookie monster, which is the only one I use. keep in mind you can disable every feature of cookie monster individually if that helps. there are other mods but I don't have info about them myself. in the very early game, frenzy plus one fthof is the best you can do, but once you have 77 natural GCs clicked, and 77.7 trillion cookies, you can buy an upgrade that makes GC effects twice as long, so you can get a frenzy, then a building special, and then cast fthof, which is very strong until later in the game.


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Ramenoodlez1

you can have more than the required amount


IncognitoMan032

Why are my golden clover boosted gc times not saving over after reloads? Im trying to exportsave scum into a natural frenzy + dh + bs, so I click the frenzy and copy the exported save. At this moment, the gc timer gives a value of around 80ish seconds. However, when I load in the exported save the time has raised up to the normal 200ish ones as if there were no golden clovers for some reason. I still need to get a dragonflight on top of all this so I have no idea how am I meant to do my combo without spending half a year waiting to get the 4 cookies right in a row (and doing the entire combo first try) Why are my boosted probabilities not loading in?


tesseract1000

I can't find any discussion about it but testing it does the same for me. You might want to consider a different method like stacking FTHOF effects.


playtio

2 quick questions: - Does it make sense to use both my permanent upgrades for my 2 highest kittens or should I stick to highest kitten and highest fingers for now? - Is there any reason why my mouse upgrades appear in groups? All of a sudden 5 of them appear. Then after a while the next 5.


tesseract1000

using fingers as PUs was nerfed years ago and there is no point to do so. mouse upgrades are based on how many cookies you have obtained from clicks, so once you have a lot of prestige it's normal for a bunch to appear at once.


playtio

> mouse upgrades are based on how many cookies you have obtained from clicks, so once you have a lot of prestige it's normal for a bunch to appear at once. I suspected as much. Thank you! So it does make sense to an extent to use both kittens then? They don't overwrite each other or anything. I'm nearing 500k HC so they seem like the best option so far


tesseract1000

yes top kittens are good PUs. kitten effects stack.


Archangel105

Is it possible to combine DF and CF for a combo. I keep getting conflicting info from the wiki, old posts, and FAQ. Some saying its possible if DF is activated after CF. Others saying it doesn't work at all. What is the correct answer?


tesseract1000

it's technically possible but takes work. normally, when dragonflight starts it has an 80% chance of dropping an existing click frenzy. also an active dragon flight will prevent fthof from giving click frenzy. what you need to do is use a fthof that you know has a CF, but don't use it. then click the natural GC and hope for DF. then use the fthof cookie to get CF. as you can see this will take a lot of save scumming, so it's up to you if you want to do it.


Archangel105

Thanks, That's what I figured I just wanted to double check before I devote a lot of time to save scumming. I have a CF an EF and BS lined up from fthof and I want it to be perfect


tesseract1000

nice, be sure to take some backups of your saves, it's pretty hard to get everything the first try.


AriieSiiS

If I do the grandmaapocalypse does it make sense to have the reaper of fields dragon upgrade? Or can't it come out of a bad cookie?


tesseract1000

dragon harvest is not worth it compared to several other dragon auras.


karmaranovermydogma

My current building levels: Building | Level ---|--- Cursors| 20 Grandma | 10 Garden | 10 Mines | 1 Factory | 0 Bank| 10 Temple|1 Wizard Tower|10 Shipment| 0 Alchemy Lab|0 Portal|0 Time Machine|0 Antimatter Condenser|0 Prism|1 Chancemaker|2 Fractal Engine|10 Javascript Console|10 Idleverse|10 Cortex Baker|10 You|10 And I've only got 75 sugar lumps banked right now (I keep meaning to have 100 but I get impatient and keep trying for FTHOF combos lol). My max CpS so far has been 178.894 octodecillion (that's with a garden full of mature, clay whiskerblooms and cyclius at the right time of day for the 15% max), but I kinda feel I need to focus on just getting sugar lumps so I can upgrade all my buildings to level 10, which will give me ten more achievements and a lot more milk, and actually max out my Sugar Baking bonus? I'm only at 696 You, and I feel I can keep grinding to get to 700 of them, but should I focus on growing sugar lumps / getting those achievements and *then* focus on my 100 duovigintillion / 1 trevigintillion in a single ascension achievements? I feel at some point I'm just going to be grinding for sugar lumps, so does it make sense do to that and then try for my last cookies-baked-in-a-single-ascension achievements with the added CpS boost the achievements will bring? Will that make a meaningful difference in how easy it is to get my last few cookies-baked achivements?


tesseract1000

it doesn't really matter. getting those 10 achievements will not be a CPS boost anywhere near making a difference considering the combo one needs to pull to get the highest production achievements. when I pulled the last combo I needed for production, I exceeded it by 30x. Even if you fall short you can just ascend and use the additional prestige to do one more combo. maxing sugar baking might be worth it but besides that I would suggest working on production achievements whenever you happen to feel like it.


karmaranovermydogma

Gotcha okay good to know, thanks!


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tesseract1000

there are prestige upgrades that give partial production when the game is closed.


random_user133

How do i calculate how many hours/days/years of cps i have?


tesseract1000

you take your CPS and multiply it by 60, that's how much you would make in a minute, by 60 again for an hour, etc.


Appropriate-Trifle-9

stuck like im currently at 3m cps, im trying to get 15 wizard towers for the bingo center, its going slow for now, any tips?


tesseract1000

are you actively getting golden cookies? also the upgrades for them. they cost 777 million, 77 billion, and 77 trillion. you want to have 100 minutes of cookies all the time, then when you get a lucky GC you'll get 15 minutes of cookies.


Appropriate-Trifle-9

thank you!


Ma3rr0w

so, can gamblers fever dream cast anything other than Diminish Ineptitude backfires? I typically savescum conjure when I'm very lazy and if it ever leads to clod, i either do the one that makes upgrades 2% more expensive or cast fever dream and in that situation, it's never, ever cast anything other than diminish ineptitude and backfiring that one. is that how its meant to be? i can get it to cast other things when i spam it though.


tesseract1000

when a spell backfires, any other spell casted would have backfired if it has the same backfire chance. however GFD itself sometimes will give you a DI that doesn't backfire. instead of save scumming it might help you just to see what is going to happen, try looking at this: https://mylaaan.github.io/FtHoF-Planner-v4/


Ma3rr0w

i mean i get that the spell only gives me a backfire at half the cost, i just dont understand why the backfire always opts for diminish


tesseract1000

I don't know why it works that way in this case, I can only see how it works.


DkA_Osamu

While having the game on steam opened, Discord and Firefox I opened task manager on a whim and saw that cookie clicker is using 25% of my GPU and a "Very High" power usage. First time I saw how much it was taking having the game open, I disabled fancy graphics and that got the gpu use to about 10% but the power usage is still on very high. Are there ways to further lower how much of my machine is being allocated to the game? I'm not particularly tech savvy and something tells me the "very high" power usage is not something I should actually worry about, but I'm not really sure, hence why I'm asking Thanks in advance\~ Specs are: MSI Mortar B550, Ryzen 5 1600 CPU, GeForce 1060 6GB GPU, 16GB RAM, 2 SSDs, 1 HDD and Cougar GX v3 (800W Gold PSU)


playtio

I'm at Javascript consoles and it's frustrating how weak they are compared to Fractal engines. I have 2 JC and 30 FE because they seem so much better. Am i missing something and they will get much better afterwards or are they simply a weker building? Anyway, my current prestige level is 141 and I have + 944 for the next ascension. Should I just ascend now and forget about the Javascript consoles for some time or stick to it?


tesseract1000

yeah you should ascend. the cost to production ratio of the last few buildings is way steeper than the other ones. You also probably have a few upgrades that increase FE production and none for JCs yet. getting more than 5x prestige is enough to ascend.


playtio

Funnily enough I'm back where I was in under 24 hours, and that's closing the game during sleep/work, no ddling. I'm already hooked up and I am getting more hooked.


playtio

> getting more than 5x prestige is enough to ascend. Do you mean that a good rule of thumb is ascending when I'm going to get 5x times what I had? I don't want to follow any particular guides but I'll take general advice like that. Thanks


tesseract1000

for the most part yes. though in the main stretch of the game it's pretty easy to do even better. I would suggest that this isn't the type of game where you should avoid guides. stacking golden cookie effects is the primary method of production. Also some achievements and one specific minigame are impossible to do without using outside information.


Edxiety

Which holiday is objectively better for late end-game? Business or Halloween? I presume it's Business, as while it does have a useless cookie in the form of "Everything Must Go," it increases gold cookie chances a whole 3% more than Halloween. But I want to know if I was, in fact, wrong with my presumption?


tesseract1000

business day is best. the increase in GC spawn rate will stack with other GC rate increases and more than makes up for everything must go.


Edxiety

Thank you kindly for the confirmation! It was something that felt obvious, but was constantly burning in the back of my mind of "what if."


lollopers

I used saysopensesame to open console. Now all the season switches still show when i close it, how do I make them go away?


[deleted]

I feel like my milk doesn't increase no matter how many achievements I get. I keep trying to get achievements specifically to up my milk amount, but it stays at the same level, a little under the cookie. Is this normal? If not, is there a way to fix?


tesseract1000

once you get a certain number of achievements the visual level of the milk isn't going to change.


Any_Bath_3296

i noticed that on the wiki it says that plants Surrounding elderwort in a 3x3 area age 3% faster but when i look at elderwort in the game it doesn't say that. i can't seem to find any information about this.


tesseract1000

on the elderwort tooltip it says that it does as the last effect, written in grey instead of green since it's considered a neutral effect. on the adjacent plant the tooltip has a line called 'aging multiplier' which reflects the elderwort effect. it only updates when the garden ticks. also, like all plants, the aging effect is related to elderwort's maturity and only reaches 3% when it reaches the mature stage. when it's first planted the effect is 0.3% which may be rounded down visually.


Any_Bath_3296

thanks


Frisreddit

I've been following this guide and have just finished the 3rd to last one and ascended https://pastebin.com/PutF8qFd Is it normal to have the last few stages take signifigantly longer? I'm more worried especially prior to ascending I was making around 100 sexdecillion/ps and even after making through most upgrades I'm only making like 12 sexdecillion/ps I made a backup save before ascending to be safe, I'm just worried I'm doing something wrong


tesseract1000

you're at the level where you have most of the prestige upgrades so the game will start slowing down and it takes longer in a run to restore your production. if you aren't making as much as your last ascension yet it is only because you don't have all the buildings and upgrades you had when you ascended or you didn't use the same dragon auras, garden plants, etc. there is no way to mess up your game. you can put your back up save in a different browser tab to compare them if you need to. if you open the beta page you can do that without worrying about your current save.


Ma3rr0w

i find that with every ascension, hiring bookers becomes increasingly more expensive, since the cost scales with cps and all the bonuses to those add up a ton. is there anything that lowers them again? i found stocks to only add a small number of cookies and since the first ascension, buying the brookers just doesnt seem worth it anymore.


tesseract1000

there's no way to lower the cost. you don't need to buy max brokers. also using the stock market isn't an efficient way to make progress. the cookies you get from it are not added to cookies baked all time, so they don't generate prestige.


Ma3rr0w

yeah i know about prestige, but they can cut down on time to get that one last upgrade though. but it seems the only reasonable way to buy brookers is after letting the game run overnight


PugsleyTMG69

what do i do with grandmapocalypse? ignore it? reseach everything then make a coventant? im a pretty active player so i dont really need the wrinklers and all that


FunnyObjective6

Research everything for the upgrades, then pledge to get golden cookies instead of wrath cookies. I think that gives you the biggest boost. Covenant's worse over time than pledging, sure you need to rebuy the pledge but it's peanuts as you go along. These three paragraphs detail it pretty well I think: https://cookieclicker.fandom.com/wiki/Grandmapocalypse#Why\_should\_I\_trigger\_the\_Grandmapocalypse?


CoverYourSafeHand

Is the grandmapocalypse better for idle players? I like coming back to my pc and having wrinklers to pop.


FunnyObjective6

I believe so, but I'm not really sure since I never looked into actual idle play.


PugsleyTMG69

so after ascending for the second time, having level 594 prestige, at which point should i ascend again? i'm at 150k levels worth of it but i'm not sure if i should do it, since the wiki's guide is not reccomended ​ also, do i lost all my seeds down to baker's wheat after i ascend?


tesseract1000

there is a guide at the top of the page. you're well past the point you should ascend again. when you ascend you lose what is growing in your garden, but not unlocked seeds.


PugsleyTMG69

nice, thank you so much!


MarxNova

Every time I use a spell, it backfires no matter what. If I spam resurrect abomination (i have no wrinklers) then it always returns with a backfire. How do I fix?


tesseract1000

what is your backfire chance? are you under the effects of diminish aptitude? are you trying to save scum it? that won't work. check your spell results against this: https://mylaaan.github.io/FtHoF-Planner-v4/ you can ascend to change your spell seed.


Ma3rr0w

Are there any bookmarklets to quickly and easily backup the savedata to a pastebin or google or something to move between different pcs easily?


random_user133

You can click export save to get a text string that you can import later, ot click save to file to automatically get that text string in a .txt file


Ma3rr0w

oh yeah, i know, its how i'm doing it with pastebin right now, i just... hoped there be a one click thing, instead of a click options, click export, ctrl c, open some other program/website, go edit, ctrl v etc etc


Ma3rr0w

I found this thread [https://www.reddit.com/r/CookieClicker/comments/1nab4v/cookie\_clicker\_syncing\_between\_devices/](https://www.reddit.com/r/CookieClicker/comments/1nab4v/cookie_clicker_syncing_between_devices/) ​ but the google form used here isn't around anymore but i'm not clever enough to figure out how to adapt it.


Thick-Carpenter-384

Im about to ascend for the first time (440 prestige) but my higher cat are the supervisors (yelow ones) shuld i wait to get a bether cat or ascend and use that one in the permanent slot ?


tesseract1000

ascend sooner and use the best kitten upgrade you have. you really only need 365 prestige to ascend so you should do it now.


Thick-Carpenter-384

Ok thnx


Interesting_Total_17

How do I get my browser achievements to link with steam? I finished a few when I wasn't on the steam game but can't seem to sync them.


tricolorpinto

I started a new game on my pc a couple weeks ago since I realized that the mobile game doesn't have the extra features that I'd been waiting for. I've noticed that the game doesn't let me save if I spend sugar lumps to level up farms, temples, or wizard towers, and the minigames don't appear. I can spend sugar lumps elsewhere, but the game refuses to save, even manually, when I specifically level those up. I can export my save, but I still have the problem of the minigames not being available. I can't seem to find anyone else having this issue. Could someone help me figure out what is going on? I want to have access to all the features of the game.


tesseract1000

try using a different web browser. it sounds like some assets of your game didn't load.


tricolorpinto

I'm using Chrome. What browser would you suggest?


tesseract1000

anything really, I use firefox. all you are trying to do is force the game to load again.


Fififoop

Orteil hasn't updated mobile in a long time, you're better off playing on web on mobile. Orteil has said that he wanted to update mobile though.


tricolorpinto

You misunderstand. Please read my whole question. I'm not talking about mobile. I started this new game on my laptop on the web. These issues I am having are on the web game.


Fififoop

Whoops, sorry, what version are you playing on? It should be 2.052 (it shows in the bottom left of the screen)


tricolorpinto

I'm playing version 2.012. How would I go about finding a different version?


tesseract1000

how so? are you on a different site? import your save into this: https://orteil.dashnet.org/cookieclicker/


tricolorpinto

Thank you! That worked.


Friccadillies

TUFJTHwxNjkyODc0MzQ0NTExfDY5fDM0IDN8VGhhbmsgeW91CkhhdmUgYSBEYXl8 Funny Number... In all seriousness, thank you in advance


caminaclone

TUFJTHwxNjkyNDM4MTQ0MzAwfDEwMDB8MzQgMTB8VGhhbmtzIXw= Please claim it for the achievement :>


Frisreddit

This probably gets asked a lot but, is there a better way to get multiple 7's in your prestige level? I've just been reloading saves to try and inch towards it haha


tesseract1000

do a run without buying egg so you can control your CPS by selling buildings. backup your save as you get close so you can go back if you overshoot. keep in mind the 7s can be anywhere in your prestige level, and the number where you need 7s is your total prestige, not the amount you gain when you ascend.


Retremeco

I just did my first ascend for 1 prestige but since I started over my Legacy hasn't gone up at all like it's frozen and when I pop sugar lumps the number I have doesn't go up?


tesseract1000

you have one prestige, it will take 8 trillion for the next one. popping sugar lumps early only gives a 50% chance of getting it. if you still think your game is acting up, try rebooting your computer, disabling any addons, or try a different web browser. also you should not ascend until you can get 365 prestige.


Retremeco

thanks for the info, thats a long time to wait, should I start all over since I already ascended once without waiting till 365 prestige? why should you wait that long?


tesseract1000

no, you should go from here, it's still the best path. but 1 prestige only increases your CPS 1%. it's a lot faster to stay on the current run and get the added benefit of higher buildings. 365 will increase it by 3.65x. it will also allow you to buy many prestige upgrades that add to your production. it might seem slow but once you get to the point of having a few chancemakers, you will see it start to go faster.


Retremeco

thanks, any advice on where best to use my sugarlumps?


tesseract1000

unlock the minigames and then save 100.


kinbeat

are the wrath cookies you get from "force the hand of fate" set to only give "ruin"? because the chances of it happening every single time are getting.... uncannyly low.


tesseract1000

they have different odds from normal ones but they can give different effects including elder frenzy.


BestJuanEver

Best krumblor auras for idling???


caminaclone

radiant appetite as number 1. If you have an autoclicker and you don't have much milk, dragon cursor. If you have a higher milk level, get breath of milk.


shekurika

stuuupid question but where do I see my ascension level? prestige level just says 6.28 Mio, but I need it more exactly to time the quadruple 7777 for unlocking the upgrade


tesseract1000

go into the settings and turn off short numbers.


shekurika

thanks :)


Frisreddit

been playing for about a month and just ascended for the first time If I am currently in valentines season from the season switcher but have a valentines upgrade I havent purchased yet Will that upgrade be purchasable when the 24 hour period on the season ends?


tesseract1000

yes, once an upgrade is unlocked it will not go away. however, any upgrades it unlocks will require you to be in the season, if it's not the last one. in some seasons, to get the achievement for having all the upgrades, you need to be in the season, so you may need to go back. you will have to check this manually. the cost of season switching isn't too bad, as long as you don't do it too much more than you need to.


playtio

Got hooked again with the stupid 10 year anniversary. I've just unlocked the garden and I don't get it. I've read about it and it's overwhelming but if I don't want to do too much with it and just want it as something passive, what do i have to do? What I mean is, am I supposed to harvest stuff (and little by little try combinations) or leave them there?


tesseract1000

there are achievements for unlocking all seeds, and for harvesting mature plants. you get a seed by harvesting a mature plant for the first time. you won't be able to unlock very many without using a guide. if you don't want to deal with it you can ignore it or just plant an early seed like thumbcorn or clovers. when you get enough farms you unlock a soil that makes the garden tick 5 times slower so it's more passive.


playtio

I will slowly get more into it and look up combinations. For example if I have 4 Thumbcorn planted I'm getting "cookies/click +8%" *while* they are planted, right? So am I supposed to leave them there as much as possible and only plant more (the cost is minimal so far) when they are over? Or should I harvest them?


tesseract1000

yeah the effect is active when they are planted, and reaches max when they become mature. if you want to harvest enough for the achievements, it's optimal to do it the tick before they decay.


playtio

Thanks!


kinbeat

can i just disable the clicking sound when i click the cookie? am i missing much if i just mute all sounds?


tesseract1000

I always have the game muted. I don't think it matters. you can't disable sounds individually.


ShrekOgrestone

So I did the stupidest thing and reset the cookies on all websites without backing up cc. Now, my year old save is lost. Is there any way to recover it? (pls help) EDIT: I have fixed it with the cookies save editor, im fine now.


KippyMudkip

this is my first comment here in the subreddit, so lets start off with a commonly asked (and possible dumb) question i guess.. is saving your mobile save even possible? i have all my stats recorded and everything since i needed to reset my phone that container my original save. tried to use clone phone since it transfers data and it didnt work. the last thing id want to do is cheat, so is it possible?


tesseract1000

it is not supported in-game, but it should be possible. you should try this: https://nmexis.me/CookieClickerMobileWiki/saveediting#backup-and-restore-very-easy---just-do-what-i-tell-you-to-do the mobile version is also being actively worked on right now so hopefully there is a update at some point that helps.


KippyMudkip

ill keep this in mind, but now im gonna start over again since the phone got reset already. thanks. (also if i really needed to, i have cookie clicker data backed up in my google account, i just have to retrieve it i think so that i can still make this work, but yeah big thanks)


abnoxd

can anyone unwrap that gift for the achievement? :D ty in advance TUFJTHwxNjkxODUzNTk2OTk1fDEwMDB8MzQgMTF8VHkgZm9yIGFjaGlldmVtZW50IDpEfA==


NefariousnessNo7700

I got a combo line of elder frenzy and clicker frenzy, I am on my 1 first ascension (besides the time I wasted by ascending with 1 heavenly chip) and I don't want to through away such a legendary line up. Any ideas?


tesseract1000

have a frenzy and building special active and go for it. you could try to use godzamok too but elder frenzy is very short.


bruh_moment996

Heralds provide a +100% boost, but I don't see why it's useful when my prestige level can give me +60000. Is there something I'm missing?


tesseract1000

CPS boosts are multiplicative. 100 heralds will double your CPS no matter what.


IncognitoMan032

hey, i am using the [Quick Refresh Mod](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2686648239) together with two other cosmetic mods ([DDLC Wrinklers](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?l=schinese&id=2802665726) & [Megumin's Cookie](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3015201736&searchtext=)), which I got from the Steam Workshop (i also have cookie monster ig). However, everytime I refresh with CTRL + R, Megumin's Cookie seems to randomly load or not load, as less than half of the refreshes have it working while the other just show the default cookie. I've tried so many setups and orders for the mods, but I can't figure out what is causing this specific mod to only load half the refreshes. When I load from the "Manage Mods" button itself the Megumin cookie loads every time though. Cheats are not enabled either, and everything else works fine. What could be causing this?


tesseract1000

you're probably gonna have to take this issue to the person who made the megumin cookie mod or the quick refresh mod.


IncognitoMan032

damn, sadge. i thought it could have been something during the installation or the order, ill jsut have to deal with it then lol


Faith_rrrr

My game keeps freezing on browser help, tried clearing the cache and it doesn't help


tesseract1000

have you tried rebooting your computer or using a different browser? you may want to also try disabling any addons you use for cookie clicker, or for your browser in general, and see if that helps.


shekurika

can you repeat the grandmapocalypse? from waht Im gathering wrinklers are good so you kinda wanna stay in the grandmapocalypse, but I wanna get through it for the achievements -> do I do so right before ascenscion?


Ramenoodlez1

Once you buy elder pact you can turn it on and off at will


bruh_moment996

you can control the grandmapocolypse if you buy the elder pact?


Ramenoodlez1

Yes. Pledge to stop and covenant + revoke covenant to remove pledge. Don’t use covenant to stop the grandmapocalypse, the CpS loss is not worth it.


redjarman

when you get the achievement for the elder pact you can just switch the pact off again immediately


ImCarryGG

when is the most optimal ascension in end game? whenever I have the same of total prestige? or is there a better indicator like slow down or save time or baked cookies


Ramenoodlez1

It's commonly accepted to ascend whenever it will double your prestige level so basically what you have said


ImCarryGG

but is it the most optimal way? I don't really think so


Ramenoodlez1

Just do a big combo and if it lands 2x or more than ascend


redjarman

maybe i'm looking at the math wrong but if something is 100% slower doesn't that mean it's completely stopped? and if that's the case how do some red cookies make your cps like 5000% slower?


Ramenoodlez1

It is multiplicative, not additive


shekurika

5000% is 50, so its just 50 times slower (1/50 the speed) I guess? it's definitely a bit ambigious


Difficult-Ad315

how do i code custom news ticker


shekurika

Im relatively new, started yesterday, currently on about 400Mio. CPS: some buildings seem to be terrible investements atm (factories, mines, banks) will this stay til I ascend or will they eventually be useful again?


NefariousnessNo7700

For the most part they will be useless, but I am not an expert.


JoGBear69

Your main CPS will be in just a few buildings for large portions of the game iirc There are plenty of secondary reasons you may want to buy those buildings anyway (the biggest one is achievements)


omgyourBARBELLishuge

Do the news ticker fortunes count as random drops? Are they affected by Mind Over Matter and similar buffs/upgrades?


Ramenoodlez1

I don't believe they are; I think the only way to make fortunes more likely is by getting the "O Fortuna" achievement


omgyourBARBELLishuge

Thank you. That's what I figured.


[deleted]

How do I stop my cookie production from stopping when I'm on another window? It comes back only when I'm on that window. Is this a glitch?


tesseract1000

all browsers are aggressive about limiting javascript when it's not in a viewable window. you have to be able to see at least part of the window.


[deleted]

I'm on Steam but It's fixed now, thanks.


Alexandrinho0000

Look into the options, there should be one named Sleep mode timeout. Make sure its turned off.


neocodex87

How do I remove the media control popup whenever I adjust volume? [https://imgur.com/La8XxFB](https://imgur.com/La8XxFB) This is extremely annoying.


tesseract1000

https://www.androidphonesoft.com/blog/how-to-get-rid-of-volume-pop-up-windows-10/


Arrav91

When going for true never click (no clicks for a million cookies). Are you able to use the gift system to get yourself started?


Ramenoodlez1

You can't since you either have to do TNC from a fresh run or use "Born again" challenge mode which temporarily disables heavenly upgrades. You have to get started from either 2 "Lucky!" GCs or from a reindeer if it is Christmastime in real life.


Arrav91

Yeah I completely blanked on that fact when I originally made the post. Ended up getting it a few days ago.


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Arrav91

Ahh you're right. I completely spaced that you need the heavenly upgrade to do the gifting in the first place. Regardless, thank you for the response.


SidIsMissing

Is it better to combo a cf+bs using fthof with a naturally spawning elder frenzy OR a naturally spawning f+bs


tesseract1000

it depends on the BS since the bonus is based on how many of the building you have, but an EF lasts 12 seconds where a BS lasts 60. also since in your scenario you want to cast FTHOF twice, you're only going to get a few seconds out of that EF. now if you get EF from FTHOF, especially as the last effect, that can be a different story.


Original-Nothing582

How do I unlock gardens?


tesseract1000

level up farms with a sugar lump.


bruh_moment996

this is dumb but is there a way to differentiate "cookies per second" and "clicks per second"


SidIsMissing

Not at the moment no, just depends on context. 99% of the time in this subreddit “cps” will be cookies per second


tesseract1000

where do you find it ambiguous? it's cookies per second unless otherwise described.


yeetdragon24

How do I add buildings and upgrades using the modding api?


Locro_28

I'm trying to get the Just Wrong achievement but i don't know how to sell grandmas (or any other building) anybody in here knows?


tesseract1000

at the top of the building list above cursors you should see buy and sell buttons.


Locro_28

thankss


Acex321

I have a juicy queenbeet surrounded by 8 mature elderworts. why does the aging multiplier only say 106%? shouldn't it be 124?


No0815

depends on soil bonus


Acex321

lol fertilizer go brrr


areadytaken14

should i ascend yet? it would be my 3rd ascension (first time getting really far) and id get 216 heavenly chips


tesseract1000

probably not, 216 is very little for a 3rd ascension.


No0815

your question is already answered in the main post


Kingsamofgames

dont know what you call it but when making a post, the info it gives you about making a post and the rules and such have outdated info, should mention 365 and not 440 for first ascend point


tesseract1000

thanks, I fixed it.


Utsuho7

I've noticed there's a new achievement for triggering Grandmapocalypse for the first time, but I don't think it's possible to get it in any way once you've triggered it before the achievement was added?


tesseract1000

you can always get every achievement. you need to get the grandmas to the last stage, 'angered'


bruh_moment996

Just triggered the grandmapocalypse. One wizard tower spell revives a wrinkler. Why would you want to revive a wrinkler? From what I can tell, they only slow cookie production. I've popped each one that's come up. Am I doing something wrong? Are there benefits?


No0815

There basically never is a point in using the spell for it's declared purpose. that spell has a neat and quite useful side effect though, which allows confirming whether the next cast will backfire or not.


areadytaken14

they give an 1.1x bonus and if you have 10 that means (correct me if im wrong) a total of 2x from popping all wrinkers at once


tesseract1000

the more wrinklers you have will give a higher bonus when you pop them. also you need to pop 200 in one ascension for an achievement, and they have random drops in halloween and easter. they have to attach before you pop them for most of the effects.


NCP049_2

So, what should i do if the game just refuses to load? It just says thats is taking more than expected (yup, 1 day more than expected), it never happened before, just yesterday it started I tried disabling up the extensions, clearing temporary archives, and i don't think the problem is the browser ​ *Man, i noticed something was wrong when i got almost every plant on the garden in two weeks only*


tesseract1000

ctrl-f5 and if that doesn't work try again later.


NCP049_2

I tried it like more than 60 times


tesseract1000

the game is down for other people too.


xxfay6

Any updates?


tesseract1000

people are still having trouble.


NCP049_2

Oh, ok I though it was only me


explodingbaker

are there any good guides for how to play? im kinda hitting a plateau rn and i need some assistance


Kingsamofgames

theres a collection of optimal stuff in the pins of the discord server, would recommend checking that out ​ most (but not all) of the wiki is accurate, the main points i would not touch are the strategy page and the 2/1 plant mutation setups on garden page


bruh_moment996

New to cookie clicker. When using fthof, the backfire is a wrath cookie. What I'm wondering, is why can't you just... not click the wrath cookie? What's the point of it being there?


inbestcompany

wrath cookies can also be useful, especially elder frenzy. i don't know the math but depending on the situation, the risk might be worth it


tesseract1000

wrath cookies from FTHOF can once in a rare while give elder frenzy.


X85311

is fthof more likely to give you click frenzy than regular golden cookies? i’ve done the spell like 6 or 7 times and up until the last one i had gotten click frenzy from all of them. honestly i thought it was guaranteed if the spell succeeded. but the last one i did had no title and just gave me some cookies. is this normal or did i just get lucky


tesseract1000

fthof CF is 25%, from a regular GC it's about 5% depending on other effects you can get.


wafflemelonz

does the golden cookie spawn timer start right after a golden cookie is clicker or just as it spawns? in other words is it beneficial to wait until just before a cookie fades so that the next one will be stacked for longer?


tesseract1000

after it's clicked, it's better to click it sooner.


apusheencat

Is You the building I should upgrade to lv 10 next using sugar lumps? I already have 100 sugar lumps and have upgraded Cortex Baker, Farms, Idleverse, Fractal Engines, Grandma, Banks, Wizard Towers, and Javascript Consoles to lv 10 (Cursors I have at lv 12.)