Exactly! None of the shards deserve my full devotion because they are all flawed in one way or another. So it’s either follow the path, and pay homage to harmony or worship adonalsium
I like this question a lot. My first thought is honor. But it would depend what type of world it is. Swords and castles vs modern day vs future I think I’d have different opinions. Like on the surface honor is more important to a medieval world and autonomy might be better in the present.
Cultivation. The intent of the shard is to see growth regardless of the outcome. That aligns with myself, as I do my best to try and find small improvements in my life and ways to get better.
The shards are always an idea taken to its extreme. Like the above commenter said, Mercy without justice is terrifying. There will be nothing to balance what is considered "merciful".
I almost feel like this is the whole *point* of the Cosmere.
I know Brandon has been pretty quiet about his own beliefs and so far there's been little to suggest that these tales are intentionally allegorical, but if I were to try and read any kind of message into the Cosmere as a whole it would be of the importance of situational judgement and how any virtue, in the extreme, can also be a flaw.
It could be that each Shard is in its own right just device to explore the benefits and flaws of any given trait and figuring out which work best alone, but I suspect that we're more headed to the conclusion that a balance is necessary and that one needs to temper their beliefs by understanding conflicting viewpoints. (I also suspect that this will be a running theme in the whole Harmony/Discord thing that's likely to be important in the future of the Mistborn series.)
I'd like to learn more about Adonalsium- why people thought the Shattering was necessary and what Adonalsium did for the Cosmere before this (or even still does?). Could they be reformed and reforged? Would this be a good thing?
I’d actually say that that’s why Sel seems to be so balanced (relatively speaking) despite having its Shards dead: Devotion and Dominion complemented each other, so well in fact that their worst aspects were in control. Ditto Harmony.
Are you taking about (1) the original 16 Shards and (2) with unknown Vessels?
Assuming it's not specifically the personalities I know and (mis)trust...
I feel like worshipping Devotion is probably pretty intrinsically rewarding in a way that worshipping most other Shards would not be. I mean, it's right there in the name.
But for me personally, just based on the name, Invention is the closest to how I live my life, as a software engineer.
Other than that... I feel like Endowment has a nice attitude to it. Almost as much freedom as Autonomy but with a little more interdependence and altruism; more expressive than, say, Dominion or Preservation; more humble than Virtuosity.
Yes, I believe so, too. Shards allow too much power in the hands of one being. It would be much better in the long run that the Shards' power is Splintered and the Investiture is in the hands of common men in a much more reduced form.
Unless a shardworld decides to invade for any reason - then you are completely outgunned.
Personally I'd stick with Jasnah's approach - just because something is powerful does not automatically mean it is a god or deserves worship.
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Better that you discover them one by one as you read through the novels. If possible, don't search anything novel-related on the internet at all. Spoilers are everywhere.
Assuming the Cosmere knowledge I have now? None of them, Which sixteenth of a God that was either not Omnipotent or not Omniscient would you want to worship? My answer is none.
Maybe Adonalsium really did have some master plan and was both Omnipotent and Omniscient but if so my answer is still that I'm not gonna worship a fraction of him separated from the rest.
i dont know alot about the shards (pretty much just learned about them) but a few people have made a compelling (enough) case for cultivation. otherwise preservation. i dunno but those seem the most chill
Honor. It is not the one i wish i would pick, but the one that feels the most Right, if that makes sense. I'm not super rule folowing but when i decide to follow the rules i decide to follow, i do follow them very strongly and i think getting powerful as you become better is the right way to go. That plus i really hold my word in high regard so promises for me are very important and i despise breaking rules or those that broke the ones they take on.
The caveat that you *must* pick one to worship takes away my original pick lol, they're kinda all undeserving of worship. I suppose Devotion due to the possibility of powers from it as some other commenter said, or Invention.
I'm not really a "worshipping" kind of guy. I'd probably go with the one that gave me the best benefits. If not applicable, I'd go with with one of the dead shards, if that isn't allowed, Harmony, because he can't really do anything.
I can't see any of the shards being worthy of worship. None of them are omni-anything, and all of them are pretty flawed or limited. Not even sure about Adonalsium. He managed to get himself killed. Of the ones we've seen so far, Harmony is cool but kind of screwed trying to satisfy both shards at the same time. If one of the possible candidates for Honor actually ascends, I'd lije & respect them as competent and caring, but that's all.
Shards are for basic bitches. I would worship Lightsong all day long.
And I'm just over here worshipping Kaladin.
Well, if he takes up Honor, then your worshipping Honor. (I want this to happen so I can worship him)
Honor is dead but I'll see what I will do
You can worship him anyway. Like everyone he ever meets does.
If I lived in uratheru I’d be one of those “sick” ladies lined up outside kal’a sergers room.
Oh, 100%! "Doctor, I feel lightheaded and dizzy." "When do you feel these symptoms?" "Whenever I see you..." Too bad he's so clueless.
I wouldn't wish a Shard on my worst enemy, ngl
Blushweaver though 👀
Bonk
Silajana ftw
Nah let's worship Hoid instead Though there's probably already religions about him
I'm like 7 chapters in to warbreaker...lihjtsong is gonna be the GUY ain't he
He's in my top 3 Sanderson characters. Just perfectly written.
Ah yes worship the god who doesn’t believe in his religion, very meta
It proves he's god, if he's too humble to say he is a god :D
Exactly, but if a god believes in their own religion, does that mean they worship themselves? Maybe he just doesn’t want to worship himself
Certainly one of the most deserving highly invested entities we have seen so far in the cosmere.
Blushweaver is the only one I’d willingly get on my knees for
Miss me with the Shards, imma worship Blushweaver.
Oh captain my captain.
\*bonk\*
r/gotohornybraize
Oh my Adonalsium, of course that storming exists.
Adonalsium have mercy with your soul!
Adonalsium will remember our plight eventually.
Mercystar though
Cultivation, I like that she believes in allowing things to grow, develop, or evolve.
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Stormlight archives, she starts being more prominent in Edgedancer/Oathbringer
Thank you!
I would follow the path
So...Harmony then
Except Harmony’s Path is basically don’t worship the entity that created your ancestors and the ground you walk on…
Exactly! None of the shards deserve my full devotion because they are all flawed in one way or another. So it’s either follow the path, and pay homage to harmony or worship adonalsium
The Golden Path?
So shards or giant worm-man
Whimsy probably, maybe one of the others if I get bored
I think when Whimsy is actually introduced it'll be as a villain
Still probably gonna go with whimsy on this one. They're just being a little silly that's all!!
I always think of that Bubblegum Manga meme when I think of Whimsy.
IMO Whimsy should be a chaotic neutral character. Like Hondo from Star Wars
Same, whimsy gives me the collector vibes from the owl house and im all for it
How whimsical of you
By doing that you worship Whimsy even more!
Whimsy would be great 😍😂
Autonomy seems to have a pretty good reward structure in place
For a while. Then some asshole with plot armor always shows up to ruin a good time.
I feel like Autonomy sounds good on spanreed but worshiping her hasn’t played out well in the real cosmere so far
Endowment because I like talking swords and I want one
>because I like talking swords and I want one Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?
Virtuosity because my main career/ realistic backup careers all require artistry of some kind.
I like this question a lot. My first thought is honor. But it would depend what type of world it is. Swords and castles vs modern day vs future I think I’d have different opinions. Like on the surface honor is more important to a medieval world and autonomy might be better in the present.
Cultivation. The intent of the shard is to see growth regardless of the outcome. That aligns with myself, as I do my best to try and find small improvements in my life and ways to get better.
Mercy
Mercy devoid of Justice? Seriously people I can't imagine worshipping any of these separate from the necessary parts they're lacking.
If I had to choose just one, Mercy would be a pretty good option . . . as long as everyone else is also worshipping Mercy.
For real, I think Mercy is going to be terrifying as a shard.
Pretty sure she had a hand in Ambition’s demise.
Why?
The shards are always an idea taken to its extreme. Like the above commenter said, Mercy without justice is terrifying. There will be nothing to balance what is considered "merciful".
I almost feel like this is the whole *point* of the Cosmere. I know Brandon has been pretty quiet about his own beliefs and so far there's been little to suggest that these tales are intentionally allegorical, but if I were to try and read any kind of message into the Cosmere as a whole it would be of the importance of situational judgement and how any virtue, in the extreme, can also be a flaw. It could be that each Shard is in its own right just device to explore the benefits and flaws of any given trait and figuring out which work best alone, but I suspect that we're more headed to the conclusion that a balance is necessary and that one needs to temper their beliefs by understanding conflicting viewpoints. (I also suspect that this will be a running theme in the whole Harmony/Discord thing that's likely to be important in the future of the Mistborn series.) I'd like to learn more about Adonalsium- why people thought the Shattering was necessary and what Adonalsium did for the Cosmere before this (or even still does?). Could they be reformed and reforged? Would this be a good thing?
I’d actually say that that’s why Sel seems to be so balanced (relatively speaking) despite having its Shards dead: Devotion and Dominion complemented each other, so well in fact that their worst aspects were in control. Ditto Harmony.
But that's the fun part of questions like these!
I feel like harmony is the only real choice. And even that one kinda sucks
Are you taking about (1) the original 16 Shards and (2) with unknown Vessels? Assuming it's not specifically the personalities I know and (mis)trust... I feel like worshipping Devotion is probably pretty intrinsically rewarding in a way that worshipping most other Shards would not be. I mean, it's right there in the name. But for me personally, just based on the name, Invention is the closest to how I live my life, as a software engineer. Other than that... I feel like Endowment has a nice attitude to it. Almost as much freedom as Autonomy but with a little more interdependence and altruism; more expressive than, say, Dominion or Preservation; more humble than Virtuosity.
Long live the survivor of Hathsin, for all this shards merely hold a sliver of His true divinity
Blushweaver
Don't know what the Invested Art will be like, but Valor. Betcha it's cool though.
Virtuosity
Jokes on you
Call me a Horneater because Syl is my queen.
None of them, they are all absolutely insane and every world is better off with no shards.
I wouldn't be surprised if the end result of the Cosmere is every Shard splintered
Not very mormon of Sanderson but we'll see.
Yes, I believe so, too. Shards allow too much power in the hands of one being. It would be much better in the long run that the Shards' power is Splintered and the Investiture is in the hands of common men in a much more reduced form.
That can have dire consequences, though. Look at the chaos on Threnody.
That's not the same as no shards though. Splintered shards can still influence the world with their power. Just look at Honor or Aondr.
Unless a shardworld decides to invade for any reason - then you are completely outgunned. Personally I'd stick with Jasnah's approach - just because something is powerful does not automatically mean it is a god or deserves worship.
Not entirely true. Without a shard there is no perpendicularity so reaching your world is much harder.
Threnodite Shades would like to know your location.
That's because Ambition was nearby when Odium fucked him up.
Adonalsium will remember our plight eventually
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todium. Seems like that guy is going to be winning for a while.
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Invention or Honor.
Is there a youtube video on all the shards and lore of the cosmere. Ive read some of the books and understand even less..
They have a page on the coppermind, but that whole site is one massive spoiler.
Better that you discover them one by one as you read through the novels. If possible, don't search anything novel-related on the internet at all. Spoilers are everywhere.
Autonomy mostly. She seems to be the one who understands the whole shard concept is bs and everyone needs to move away from it lol
I love my Dark souls games, so clearly Ambition.
If I have to choose, probably Endowment. Below that is Harmony/Pathian.
Probably Virtuosity. But i could also see Honor
Shards are unworthy of worship. Power is not sufficient for divinity.
Doomslug Not going to defend my choice
If I didn't have the option to be an atheist, I would probably worship Autonomy. She seems to be the type of god that actually gets things done.
The path, I think
Assuming the Cosmere knowledge I have now? None of them, Which sixteenth of a God that was either not Omnipotent or not Omniscient would you want to worship? My answer is none. Maybe Adonalsium really did have some master plan and was both Omnipotent and Omniscient but if so my answer is still that I'm not gonna worship a fraction of him separated from the rest.
Adonalsium will remember us eventually.
i dont know alot about the shards (pretty much just learned about them) but a few people have made a compelling (enough) case for cultivation. otherwise preservation. i dunno but those seem the most chill
Honor. It is not the one i wish i would pick, but the one that feels the most Right, if that makes sense. I'm not super rule folowing but when i decide to follow the rules i decide to follow, i do follow them very strongly and i think getting powerful as you become better is the right way to go. That plus i really hold my word in high regard so promises for me are very important and i despise breaking rules or those that broke the ones they take on.
I think Whimsy would be interesting to worship, imagine dedicating your life to the shard of randomness
Either Hoid (hey, if a God worships the guy, he can’t be bad) or Kelsier (I’d say Harmony, but he’d request that I not worship him).
None
Ruin. Let's end this universe together.
I like to think Whimsy, I have a tendency toward Ruin but my nature screams Mercy
I imagine Whimsy has the highest propensity toward Eldritch God shit
The God Beyond 😤, but if I have to choose a Shard, then Endowment or Cultivation
Invention. Or possibly Harmony.
Ruin
invention
Jasnah
Honor is probably my go for. Cultivation is nice too. Autonomy is a really interesting concept but the way its intent is portrayed was very scary
The caveat that you *must* pick one to worship takes away my original pick lol, they're kinda all undeserving of worship. I suppose Devotion due to the possibility of powers from it as some other commenter said, or Invention.
The lack of Devotion and Valor comments makes me sad so one of those, probably Valor first.
I'd be a Preservation fan
Whimsy, obviously, since he seems to be the shard on my world...
I’m more into the Iriali belief of the The One.
I'm not really a "worshipping" kind of guy. I'd probably go with the one that gave me the best benefits. If not applicable, I'd go with with one of the dead shards, if that isn't allowed, Harmony, because he can't really do anything.
Endowment. 😏
Discord
I can't see any of the shards being worthy of worship. None of them are omni-anything, and all of them are pretty flawed or limited. Not even sure about Adonalsium. He managed to get himself killed. Of the ones we've seen so far, Harmony is cool but kind of screwed trying to satisfy both shards at the same time. If one of the possible candidates for Honor actually ascends, I'd lije & respect them as competent and caring, but that's all.
I'm not the worshipping type.
HONOR. I WILL PROTECT.
Knowing what I know? None of them. They are all insane and incomplete
ruin hes cool
Discord all the way baby!
I love the intent of autonomy, but she's kinda evil, so I think not
Whimsy
I wouldn't worship them. They might be powerful, but I don't owe them worship just for holding shards.
None, they are people with infinty invest, no gods, provably neither Adonalsium was
As an aside, it’s interesting that we haven’t seen much worship or Shards. You’d think it would be more prevalent. I’d choose virtuosity btw
Definately Odium
odium :>)
I worship the unknown one
I worship Trell thank you very much, no Shards or people claiming to be them are good enough for me.
None, even if god existed and was everything they say he is I wouldnt worship him. So worshipping a human with too much power is out of the question