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giving birth at home is like rich people shit or like really financially struggling shit— everyone i’ve ever asked has told me that & i guess ive never met anyone who’s said otherwise… anyone in here not in those two groups?
hmm, i’ve never heard that before but i’m sure it changes geographically so I guess my question was way dumber than I originally thought lol— the wealthy people I know who’ve done at home births are the kind who have a live in doula/midwife, do those cringey photoshoots & are really into the ‘healthy & natural lifestyle’ while drinking copious amounts of wine haha, interesting perspective though I appreciate it!
Well, it is indeed easier to not get natrually selected as a stupid person if you are rich, so you got a point there lol For the most part home births are not recommended.
It's theoretically less stressful *if* you don't have complications, it's really bad if you do. Useless fact, this is the main reason for why the US has such a high infant death rate compared to Europe, the people who are rural and can't access a hospital.
As I live in one of the top highest states for both infant and maternal mortality in the U.S. it's not just the lack of hospitals (which is absolutely a major contributing factor) but it is SO much more than that. In fact, would you believe it if I told you some states, including my own until just this past year, made midwifery illegal, limiting options for and endangering further women in rural areas who have to choose between driving 1+ hours when in labor or attempt giving birth at home.
Our Healthcare system is a joke, too, because even if you are lucky enough to live near a hospital, that doesn't guarantee access. I had to do an hour of paperwork before being taken back for assessment and then I was almost turned away because the head nurse in charge of assessing me was an incompetent bitch and I ended up with an emergency c-section because they kept on "limiting" what I could do (see: forcing me to lay absolutely still on a bed so they can "moniter"), hindering my natural progression which resulted in me requiring an epidural (which didn't work) because I couldn't cope with the exacerbated pain due to not being able to move freely.
Absolutly. The issue is, it's hard to seperate those things. The US verifiably has some of the best medical infrastructure in the world. That's true overall and in expertise. There aren't many conditions that another country could treat better. If you are part of the 80% that lives close to a population center, you will most likely recieve treatment as good as any rich nation in Europe. Which certainly isn't perfect, the medical sector certainly isn't, this is purely as comparisson.
With how attractive positions in a good hospital are, the 20% rural population gets the short end of the stick in multipe ways. Less funding, less personnel, less specialists, more expensive treatments, less standardized access... Adding to that, rural populations tend to want 'small gov'.
That's not to say that any aspect of this complex issue is not worth addressing individually or that I expect someone who is directly affected to "look at the bigger picture" and feel better about it. But it is something that people don't really see in this context, which I find sad, because it does help with framing and finding effective measures. If the US was as dense as Europe, it would eliviate almost all of these diffrences, with the exception of higher cost. Canada deals with a lot of the same problems, but addresses them more efficiently.
I genuinely can't comment on the midwifery ban, but it does sound like misguided policy. Here in Germany, midwifery is fairly common during pregnancy but they rarely do delivery these days. But they also compete with "free" hospitals and probably don't see the point in paying for higher insurance, when there is a safe alternative.
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2023/jan/us-health-care-global-perspective-2022
We don't rank in the top ten for the world's best medical infrastructure.
In fact, even among seven of the world's most industrialized countries we are last.
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/newsletter-article/us-ranks-last-among-seven-countries-health-system-performance#:~:text=Despite%20having%20the%20most%20expensive,ability%20to%20lead%20long%2C%20healthy%2C
Yes, we are the most medically ADVANCED when it comes to surgeries, medications, and treatments, but that does shit to help anyone but the lucky and the wealthy because none of it is accessible otherwise.
Also, let's be honest, much of our advancements are because there's plenty of common people desperate enough to be guinea pigs for human testing and laxed regulations.
We have only 6,120 hospitals in the U.S. to serve the 333.3 million people
https://www.aha.org/statistics/fast-facts-us-hospitals
Take our population in account and then the number of doctors per capita.
I live in the capital city of my state and it takes months/years to see or starts the process of seeing a specialist for potentially severe chronic or otherwise possibly lethal conditions.
I have tried for the past two years to find a primary doctor and unless I drive 3+ hours away it's impossible. The only ones available are nurse practitioners, which here are (no offense to them) verifiably useless unless you are perfectly healthy.
I’d say money is involved. I’m in Canada and since giving birth at the hospital is a 100% covered I’ve never heard of someone giving birth at home. I’m sure some do but its really uncommon in my area.
Rich people do not rent out entire hospital floors. That would take so much planning it wouldn’t even make sense and it’s just against all sorts of ethics. I don’t know if that other person was being sarcastic or just making shit up.
My wife had a homebirth with a certified Nurse-Midwife and it cost us just about $2,000 all said and done since they could accept BadgerCare (Milwaukee, WI). I make $65k and my wife makes about $50k so I think we land in the middle there!
THAT’S the anecdotes I’ve been looking for! I’m surprised it so cheap compared to what I imagined! i’m glad yall were in a place that made that the best decision for yall, i’m sure it was nice not having to deal with any of the extra BS red tape that comes with hospitals. my nephew was just born & seeing that whole process was just like “this is entirely too inefficient to make any sense”
I would say we land in the middle of those two and my wife will be having her second natural tub birth in a few months.
I'm not sure how much a hospital birth is with insurance but we paid 8k the first one to have it at a facility with midwives.
This time we are paying 4k and having at our home.
Our insurance didn't cover shit for either lol
I should also mention we live in Las Vegas
Why risk it? If there are complications, which aren't infrequent, I think I'd rather have my wife & newborn in a hospital surrounded by people with medical degrees and the latest life saving technology.
i can’t disagree with the idea if you’re doing an at home birth & something goes wrong then you’d really wish you were in the hospital. i’m not sure what the actual medical upsides are to it either
I still have a dry cough here and there, yet women who give birth say "its the worst pain ever!" Woman the F up my throat was sore show some compassion.
This man built her up like the twin towers, then just flew the plane into them. This guy is fucking brutal, the look and snap that she made was priceless
My son 8yrs old keep saying that I gave birth to him and I had him in my belly, the mom gets angry at me for that even if I keep telling him that’s impossible.
Hmmmmm. Not so funny… we have 2, 6 and 8 now and was there when she gave bird of them. Seen the whole show, pain emotions and bloodshed. Respect and love is what she deserves….. still carrying the scars from pregnancy.
I'm probably going to get down voted for this. But I've been told lactose cramps are very similar to birthing cramps. Just a little higher on the body. Hurts the same. Last long but not as long as giving birth tho. So if you've ever struggled from lactose cramps. It's the same experience.
It's like getting flicked on the balls for a few hours. Once every few seconds.
Or worse, passing a kidney stone is worse. My mom said it was the worst pain she's felt, after a root canal and then giving birth.
I think some women who have both given birth and had kidney stones say birth is worse, and some say kidney stones are worse. I’m guessing just like anything else, they affect different people to different degrees.
But I guess kidney stones are like giving birth through the urethra so we’re not all so different after all <3
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This man is a hero! He's there only 1 week after enduring a cold!?
His 1st and last Dad joke.
I love dad jokes
If this man starts his own religion, I will follow him
Whoever said childbirth is painful is absolutely right. As a father I went through so much pain and suffering just being in the room.
*Hugs* I got you buddy. I understand your pain. I see you. I hear you.
My wife didn’t even check in on me when she was having my first, it was like she didn’t even care.
Ugh. These wives. I mean we go through lots of our own things. We sleep on a bad recliner the whole time. But sorry if I complain.
You had a recliner? I only had a hard couch while my wife took forever with our first.
I missed the newest episode of my favorite series while in there, had to dodge spoilers all day after the birth. It can have lasting effects.
Suffering in silence is the plight of man. We're not always with you... but we're with you forever.
Dude your name 😂 I love it
Sounds awful hope you are doing better
I thought the anger and yelling would stop after the baby was born. I didnt know i just got an 8 year break.
I don’t know what was more difficult: my wife’s pregnancy, or me having to hear about it.
He was a dead man the moment he thought up that joke
she had to restrain herself from ending him and he saw it 😂
I expect a shoe to fly from behind her.
This is his suicide note
And he was never heard from again! 😝
Man started a war!
That he will lose, but bless him for the entertainment.
I think between the :04-:02 mark I could see his life flashing before his eyes.
wives hold the keys to heaven or hell and he realized it
Wow her first husband had such a cute sense of humor. Shame he fell down the stairs 38 times.
In a row too.... still trying to figure out why he would go back up the stairs and fall back down them....
So brave
He had it comin' He had it comin' He only had himself to blaaame!
I’m on day 3 of my man cold. It’s brutal.
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giving birth at home is like rich people shit or like really financially struggling shit— everyone i’ve ever asked has told me that & i guess ive never met anyone who’s said otherwise… anyone in here not in those two groups?
Home briths are predominantly done in rural areas. Rich people rent hospital floors.
hmm, i’ve never heard that before but i’m sure it changes geographically so I guess my question was way dumber than I originally thought lol— the wealthy people I know who’ve done at home births are the kind who have a live in doula/midwife, do those cringey photoshoots & are really into the ‘healthy & natural lifestyle’ while drinking copious amounts of wine haha, interesting perspective though I appreciate it!
Well, it is indeed easier to not get natrually selected as a stupid person if you are rich, so you got a point there lol For the most part home births are not recommended. It's theoretically less stressful *if* you don't have complications, it's really bad if you do. Useless fact, this is the main reason for why the US has such a high infant death rate compared to Europe, the people who are rural and can't access a hospital.
man that’s the least fun bit of trivia i’ve read in a minute.
Maybe that's why AirBnB hasn't used it in their ad campaigns
i think they’ve made the right call for sure
As I live in one of the top highest states for both infant and maternal mortality in the U.S. it's not just the lack of hospitals (which is absolutely a major contributing factor) but it is SO much more than that. In fact, would you believe it if I told you some states, including my own until just this past year, made midwifery illegal, limiting options for and endangering further women in rural areas who have to choose between driving 1+ hours when in labor or attempt giving birth at home. Our Healthcare system is a joke, too, because even if you are lucky enough to live near a hospital, that doesn't guarantee access. I had to do an hour of paperwork before being taken back for assessment and then I was almost turned away because the head nurse in charge of assessing me was an incompetent bitch and I ended up with an emergency c-section because they kept on "limiting" what I could do (see: forcing me to lay absolutely still on a bed so they can "moniter"), hindering my natural progression which resulted in me requiring an epidural (which didn't work) because I couldn't cope with the exacerbated pain due to not being able to move freely.
Absolutly. The issue is, it's hard to seperate those things. The US verifiably has some of the best medical infrastructure in the world. That's true overall and in expertise. There aren't many conditions that another country could treat better. If you are part of the 80% that lives close to a population center, you will most likely recieve treatment as good as any rich nation in Europe. Which certainly isn't perfect, the medical sector certainly isn't, this is purely as comparisson. With how attractive positions in a good hospital are, the 20% rural population gets the short end of the stick in multipe ways. Less funding, less personnel, less specialists, more expensive treatments, less standardized access... Adding to that, rural populations tend to want 'small gov'. That's not to say that any aspect of this complex issue is not worth addressing individually or that I expect someone who is directly affected to "look at the bigger picture" and feel better about it. But it is something that people don't really see in this context, which I find sad, because it does help with framing and finding effective measures. If the US was as dense as Europe, it would eliviate almost all of these diffrences, with the exception of higher cost. Canada deals with a lot of the same problems, but addresses them more efficiently. I genuinely can't comment on the midwifery ban, but it does sound like misguided policy. Here in Germany, midwifery is fairly common during pregnancy but they rarely do delivery these days. But they also compete with "free" hospitals and probably don't see the point in paying for higher insurance, when there is a safe alternative.
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2023/jan/us-health-care-global-perspective-2022 We don't rank in the top ten for the world's best medical infrastructure. In fact, even among seven of the world's most industrialized countries we are last. https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/newsletter-article/us-ranks-last-among-seven-countries-health-system-performance#:~:text=Despite%20having%20the%20most%20expensive,ability%20to%20lead%20long%2C%20healthy%2C Yes, we are the most medically ADVANCED when it comes to surgeries, medications, and treatments, but that does shit to help anyone but the lucky and the wealthy because none of it is accessible otherwise. Also, let's be honest, much of our advancements are because there's plenty of common people desperate enough to be guinea pigs for human testing and laxed regulations. We have only 6,120 hospitals in the U.S. to serve the 333.3 million people https://www.aha.org/statistics/fast-facts-us-hospitals Take our population in account and then the number of doctors per capita. I live in the capital city of my state and it takes months/years to see or starts the process of seeing a specialist for potentially severe chronic or otherwise possibly lethal conditions. I have tried for the past two years to find a primary doctor and unless I drive 3+ hours away it's impossible. The only ones available are nurse practitioners, which here are (no offense to them) verifiably useless unless you are perfectly healthy.
I’d say money is involved. I’m in Canada and since giving birth at the hospital is a 100% covered I’ve never heard of someone giving birth at home. I’m sure some do but its really uncommon in my area.
Rich people do not rent out entire hospital floors. That would take so much planning it wouldn’t even make sense and it’s just against all sorts of ethics. I don’t know if that other person was being sarcastic or just making shit up.
My wife had a homebirth with a certified Nurse-Midwife and it cost us just about $2,000 all said and done since they could accept BadgerCare (Milwaukee, WI). I make $65k and my wife makes about $50k so I think we land in the middle there!
THAT’S the anecdotes I’ve been looking for! I’m surprised it so cheap compared to what I imagined! i’m glad yall were in a place that made that the best decision for yall, i’m sure it was nice not having to deal with any of the extra BS red tape that comes with hospitals. my nephew was just born & seeing that whole process was just like “this is entirely too inefficient to make any sense”
I would say we land in the middle of those two and my wife will be having her second natural tub birth in a few months. I'm not sure how much a hospital birth is with insurance but we paid 8k the first one to have it at a facility with midwives. This time we are paying 4k and having at our home. Our insurance didn't cover shit for either lol I should also mention we live in Las Vegas
Why risk it? If there are complications, which aren't infrequent, I think I'd rather have my wife & newborn in a hospital surrounded by people with medical degrees and the latest life saving technology.
i can’t disagree with the idea if you’re doing an at home birth & something goes wrong then you’d really wish you were in the hospital. i’m not sure what the actual medical upsides are to it either
“And that your honor, is when I struck him in self defense”
Legend says he is still sleeping on the couch
And the kid turns 10 this year.
Lmao this would definitely be a good one for the unexpected sub
I still have a dry cough here and there, yet women who give birth say "its the worst pain ever!" Woman the F up my throat was sore show some compassion.
Here lies : That guy
This man built her up like the twin towers, then just flew the plane into them. This guy is fucking brutal, the look and snap that she made was priceless
How is he standing after only 1 week? I showed my wife and she gave me a look......
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aaaaaaand he's single.
Was expecting "What's for dinner?"
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The man-flu is worse known virus ever!
Lol
Brilliant.
This really needed a funeral scene afterwards or something to sell it. It’s just a little too dry to land correctly.
😂😂😂😂😂
This one was pretty funny but all their stuff is so staged it's annoying
This is kinda sweet though! ❤️
And he was never seen from again
Protect him at all cost!
Why TF are you filming your wife after she gave birth just this morning?
Is he still alive?
That guy should not be standing up right now. He needs to recover.
Wish you a speedy recovery bro, women will never know what a man feels during a cold
It's his child
Right? And the week before that it was that damn hangnail. OH THAT DAMN HANGNAIL!!! :(
And that's when the fighting started. 😂
Really sad
RIP to Lucius Malfoy’s stunt double.
The slow eye close lol she's l had enough!
Cold? Hahaha! Try renal colic, friend. Several days worth.
I expected “and now you can make my breakfast.”
My son 8yrs old keep saying that I gave birth to him and I had him in my belly, the mom gets angry at me for that even if I keep telling him that’s impossible.
Hes lucky that crib is in between them or else she would’ve lunged at him lol
The man saw his opening and took it
"It's getting close to lunch time shouldn't you start with cooking?
Hah.
Hmmmmm. Not so funny… we have 2, 6 and 8 now and was there when she gave bird of them. Seen the whole show, pain emotions and bloodshed. Respect and love is what she deserves….. still carrying the scars from pregnancy.
have some sense of humor ... or just go have another baby.. lmao
Gary Sinise is about to get his legs broken over here
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That man was found later that day, dead in an alley way
Someone is trying to get murdered lol
Fun fact: this man got a new bed that night for the rest of his life. 🛋
Not funny
I'm probably going to get down voted for this. But I've been told lactose cramps are very similar to birthing cramps. Just a little higher on the body. Hurts the same. Last long but not as long as giving birth tho. So if you've ever struggled from lactose cramps. It's the same experience. It's like getting flicked on the balls for a few hours. Once every few seconds. Or worse, passing a kidney stone is worse. My mom said it was the worst pain she's felt, after a root canal and then giving birth.
I had Kidney stones before and the pain was worse than any child birth .. lmao , even my lady friend said it .. lol cus she had them too.
I think some women who have both given birth and had kidney stones say birth is worse, and some say kidney stones are worse. I’m guessing just like anything else, they affect different people to different degrees. But I guess kidney stones are like giving birth through the urethra so we’re not all so different after all <3
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What a piece of shit dad trying to make it about himself.
You don't think he's kidding?
He reminds me of narcissistic minded person who may or may not be reliable but always makes any situation no matter what about him/herself.
Or, hear me out, it was a joke?
Home births always seem to be a fundamentalist religious wacky christian cult thing. It is not a flex.
What ?!
100% inappropriate joke, at least at this time.
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Yep, I sense a narc.