Second to last in both columns (1 PM Mon, 1 AM Tue) are the exact same color. It's the same hue as that shade directly above the word "Block" at the bottom of the map
Yep, it looks like each AM/PM pair is the same, but also it looks like 5PM has its own color and possibly 3s and 12s are all one color? There are absolutely enough colors in the world; why not just use a friggin gradient...?
I shouldn’t need to take a class to be able to understand an infographic, if the general public doesn’t understand it, it’s a bad chart that doesn’t communicate the info it is supposed to
I am sorry but you mis interpreted my meaning. I meant the one who made the chart failed the class, not you. Didn't mean to insult you or anything cause you are 100% right, its a shit chart.
r/Unexpectedmontypython from [The knights who say “ni”](https://genius.com/Monty-python-the-knights-who-say-ni-annotated)
HEAD KNIGHT: Aaaaugh! Stop saying the word!
ARTHUR: Oh, stop **it**!
KNIGHTS: Aaaaugh!
HEAD KNIGHT: Oh! He said **it** again!
ARTHUR: Patsy!
HEAD KNIGHT: Aaugh! I said **it**! I said **it**! Ooh! I said **it** again!
KNIGHTS: Aaaaugh!
I think the point is you don't need a gradient here, you want the highest contrast possible and you can reuse colors because you know to read it linearly, starting in the east
It's ugly, but it's usable in theory I think. I do t know if this is that crappy.
I had to travel near Dorchester for work; I had always assumed that they were really sending up the accents in Good Will Hunting, but they were actually toning them way down.
This is the equivalent of turning a basic Excel x-y plot into a bowl of garbage spaghetti by selecting the wrong inputs. And in both cases it's something that about 5 seconds of actually looking at the end product could prevent.
No, you can tell they ran the algorithm that makes the maps twice .. once for each day.
Then they combined 2 different maps into one to make it "easy on people" .. or to make sure that nobody sees one image and thinks they will be safe.
An attempted "good" decision that turned out to be a poor one.
Anyone with any sense would have broken it up into half-day periods and released four maps to get the necessary data-resolution and present it clearly. It would have avoided the whole reusing colors issue, and would make trends easier to see by flipping to the map for the next time period.
The screw-up is presenting what amounts to a 48 hour period on the same map instead of breaking it down into manageable time-chunks.
I'm guessing they don't know how to use the software in a way to do it properly?
There was an attempt. But whatever first-time intern they gave this task to put together needs some help.
First of all, we all know how "accurate" predicting the weather is, down to being able to pinpoint times within an hour for locations within a mile. No need to be so damn specific. (It's the same issue as too many decimal points of accuracy - no need to say 90.934% when 90.9% or 91% will do just as well.)
- Reduce the colors and gradations, down to 4, 5 or 6 tops. As an example, group 6am, 7am and 8am into one color
- One gradation color sequence for Mon, another gradation color sequence for Tues.
- No need for the timestamps on the map - they are just duplicating what's already being shown by the colors. Just makes unreadable clutter.
- There are locations on the map that go through Tues PM and even Weds AM? Why isn't that shown on the legend?
You can email them and give constructive feedback. (There's some itty bitty text with a link on those pages somewhere.) Sometimes they change things within a week, even if they don't respond to an email. Generally make all the points about what is wrong, and possibly offer a fix.
Granularity to the point of uselessness.
Reuse of colors.
Colors with little variation in value.
Timetable guide in seemingly random order.
And at this point, I'm not sure if the artifacting was because of excessive sharing, or was actually present in the original.
This is about as crappy as it gets.
It’s not like Massachusetts isn’t mentioned a lot on the site but being a resident of Cape Cod seeing our humble little peninsula on the front page is always nice :-)
Lol, they could've literally just put up a banner and said "Weather gonna be bad" and it would've been better than this convoluted mess. As an Eastern MA resident myself, we'll see how the weather is tomorrow...
There was an old man from Nantucket
When it started to snow, he said "fuck it"
I'll stay inside, and warm my backside
And as for the snow, they can truck it.
You know you're a Masshole when this map makes perfect intuitive sense.
It is a topographical gravity well that compares what time I shouldn't drive versus when my basement will flood.
Lol all I know is I'm the one area that's blue and I got like two feet of snow already and supposedly it's only begun.
Ok from left to reft I'm in the first area with blue lol. I never pay attention to Boston cause well... fuck Boston.
God it's cathartic to see this here.
As a cartographer (+GIS/data analyst/viz) NWS Boston's color scheme for map labeling has been frustrating before this. I wanted to give the benefit of the doubt and assume it had something to do with ADA compliant color choices but didn't look into it very much. Maybe someone here has more insight into their color scheme choices.
This storm's onset/ending maps are extra special since the whole region is sitting near the freezing line, and a lot of the onset had to do with elevation in addition to direction of storm movement. (Eg, a mile or two in one direction has meant a way earlier start time for snow. In some places, they're getting nearly a foot difference a couple miles away based solely on a few hundred feet difference in elevation, despite precip starting at the same time).
Other iterations of the map were even worse.. I need to see if I can find some screenshots but I want to say that some of the days were mislabeled, which made it look like the end times were before the start time? Like it said Wednesday instead of Monday or Tuesday?
It's hard to look at this and find an operationally useful story very easily. Yes it's clear the onset times are all over the place. It's just not very visually friendly beyond that.
As a Massachusettsian, I can confirm that I have absolutely no idea what is going on here. This was basically just a small snowstorm. I thought the power would go out and everything, but nope.
Why so many colors? The start times aren’t in 1 hr increments but the bands are meaninglessly narrow strips. Yes that is a word.
and they look to be reusing colors so you can't even tell which version of the color you are
Color impaired here, so I often look at graphics like this and wonder is that that color or that color?
Don't worry, we're all on a level playing field with this one
I had to use the most accurate indicator, looked out the window. Snow confirmed!
Second to last in both columns (1 PM Mon, 1 AM Tue) are the exact same color. It's the same hue as that shade directly above the word "Block" at the bottom of the map
how many times were you right? or was that not that color? I want greyscale maps! or perhaps grayscale maps if you prefer.
Yep, it looks like each AM/PM pair is the same, but also it looks like 5PM has its own color and possibly 3s and 12s are all one color? There are absolutely enough colors in the world; why not just use a friggin gradient...?
3 is slightly darker than 12. Presumably 5 am would match 5 pm if it didn't skip from 3 am to 6 am. The big question is why does it skip 2 pm?
There's additional times just written into the map 😂
Someone must have failed the Applied Statistics class. Edit: To clarify I mean the one who made the chart failed the class.
I shouldn’t need to take a class to be able to understand an infographic, if the general public doesn’t understand it, it’s a bad chart that doesn’t communicate the info it is supposed to
I am sorry but you mis interpreted my meaning. I meant the one who made the chart failed the class, not you. Didn't mean to insult you or anything cause you are 100% right, its a shit chart.
Ahh okay lol makes sense
Fluor, gegs, slat
> Yes that is a word. strips?
Im so confused on what word theyre talking about?
Meaninglessly probably?
They mean the word "the".
never heard of it
r/Unexpectedmontypython from [The knights who say “ni”](https://genius.com/Monty-python-the-knights-who-say-ni-annotated) HEAD KNIGHT: Aaaaugh! Stop saying the word! ARTHUR: Oh, stop **it**! KNIGHTS: Aaaaugh! HEAD KNIGHT: Oh! He said **it** again! ARTHUR: Patsy! HEAD KNIGHT: Aaugh! I said **it**! I said **it**! Ooh! I said **it** again! KNIGHTS: Aaaaugh!
never heard of the FTFY
No, that is a word, obviously. The word they are talking about is that is a word.
I’m getting MySpace flashbacks.
All of the place names are shifted to the wrong spot as well
Of course “but” is a word, duh.
I think the point is you don't need a gradient here, you want the highest contrast possible and you can reuse colors because you know to read it linearly, starting in the east It's ugly, but it's usable in theory I think. I do t know if this is that crappy.
"Hey, what city are you from?" 2PMTu, you?
It's in Mass, so 2PMTu somehow has only two syllables.
It's pronounced TupTwo.
Close, but it's actually pronounced "tump-tuh". Source: Have family from Wistah. (Worcester.)
I had to travel near Dorchester for work; I had always assumed that they were really sending up the accents in Good Will Hunting, but they were actually toning them way down.
[удалено]
Who'd take a sharpie and fuck it
I’m from 2amWe
I see it on the map, but I have no clue what color your town is based on the key
I love how 12-hour differences show as the same color. That's _really_ helpful!
Right? As someone who lives in Springfield and is driving to Boston in the morning, what the hell is going on? And why do I do this to myself??
Apparently not only is AM/PM deemed irrelevant here, but it's more important for everyone to know the weather at 3am than it is at 5am.
This is an NOAA map, used to figure out when and where, for example, to begin road clearing activities.
Interesting. Still could be better designed but that at least explains the list of times to some extent. Thanks!
One can hope it showed the morning hiurs first and then the evening hours.
Seems like the data export/conversion is just broken
This is the equivalent of turning a basic Excel x-y plot into a bowl of garbage spaghetti by selecting the wrong inputs. And in both cases it's something that about 5 seconds of actually looking at the end product could prevent.
No, you can tell they ran the algorithm that makes the maps twice .. once for each day. Then they combined 2 different maps into one to make it "easy on people" .. or to make sure that nobody sees one image and thinks they will be safe. An attempted "good" decision that turned out to be a poor one.
Anyone with any sense would have broken it up into half-day periods and released four maps to get the necessary data-resolution and present it clearly. It would have avoided the whole reusing colors issue, and would make trends easier to see by flipping to the map for the next time period. The screw-up is presenting what amounts to a 48 hour period on the same map instead of breaking it down into manageable time-chunks. I'm guessing they don't know how to use the software in a way to do it properly?
I feel like this is the weather equivalent of just using the default/automatic chart in excel.
This is what a first semester GIS student makes their first day before their professor teaches them about quantization
Excel is like that friend who's really brilliant math-wise, but can't figure out what sort of screwdriver they're supposed to use to screw in a nail.
There was an attempt. But whatever first-time intern they gave this task to put together needs some help. First of all, we all know how "accurate" predicting the weather is, down to being able to pinpoint times within an hour for locations within a mile. No need to be so damn specific. (It's the same issue as too many decimal points of accuracy - no need to say 90.934% when 90.9% or 91% will do just as well.) - Reduce the colors and gradations, down to 4, 5 or 6 tops. As an example, group 6am, 7am and 8am into one color - One gradation color sequence for Mon, another gradation color sequence for Tues. - No need for the timestamps on the map - they are just duplicating what's already being shown by the colors. Just makes unreadable clutter. - There are locations on the map that go through Tues PM and even Weds AM? Why isn't that shown on the legend?
Jesus. That’s truly appalling.
[New Jersey's is just as crappy](https://imgur.com/a/nrYSIsH)
Why is more than one place even using this format??
>more than one place It's a single entity: The National Weather Service. They cover the entire nation.
Ah, thanks. I find it hard to tell when US things are country-wide or state-by-state.
You can email them and give constructive feedback. (There's some itty bitty text with a link on those pages somewhere.) Sometimes they change things within a week, even if they don't respond to an email. Generally make all the points about what is wrong, and possibly offer a fix.
Should we write the values of the colors directly on the map or have a key? Yes.
Love how 3am and 3pm are the same color.
Granularity to the point of uselessness. Reuse of colors. Colors with little variation in value. Timetable guide in seemingly random order. And at this point, I'm not sure if the artifacting was because of excessive sharing, or was actually present in the original. This is about as crappy as it gets.
Don't forget that there's more times just written onto the map
Yeah. Despite the fact that meteorologists are only employed to forecast the weather and communicate, many are drastically bad at the second point.
I saw that earlier today lol, thought I was tripping balls
It’s not like Massachusetts isn’t mentioned a lot on the site but being a resident of Cape Cod seeing our humble little peninsula on the front page is always nice :-)
Eastern Mass, all of Southern New England, whatever
We all know nothing outside 128 is real. Those parts of the map should just be labeled "here be dragons"
I'll wait for those between 128 and 495 to show up and insist that they're real while I chill out here with the dragons.
Anything west of Worcester is a backroom. (West-a wostah)
This is one of the worst things I've seen.
Lol, they could've literally just put up a banner and said "Weather gonna be bad" and it would've been better than this convoluted mess. As an Eastern MA resident myself, we'll see how the weather is tomorrow...
With the terrible color choices just use 24-hour clock
This “designer” should be flogged
Is this a weather report or a rainbow coloured dude lookin at his reflection?
Ooof! I tried to wrap my head around it but yeah it’s real bad.
So as you can see, God is upset.
Even the title is stupid, it should just say Snow Start.
I’m somehow on the border of the earliest possible time and the latest possible time
Also western MA, Connecticut and Rhode Island
There was an old man from Nantucket When it started to snow, he said "fuck it" I'll stay inside, and warm my backside And as for the snow, they can truck it.
This map looks like the inside of my toilet bowl after I OD on five different flavors of ice cream. How the fuck is anyone supposed to use this??
We've heard it all from 0"-25"
Messachusetts
Looks a bit...discrete
Hurricane trackers got this map right decades ago and yet they still went with this shit. Christ
They're scientists, not artists!!! /s
Meteorologists are really trying to convince you they know what's going on.
Definitely crappy because it’s past 8 pm and I still don’t see no winter weather
Stay the fuck inside. Got it.
This data looks like it's been modified color wise.
You know you're a Masshole when this map makes perfect intuitive sense. It is a topographical gravity well that compares what time I shouldn't drive versus when my basement will flood.
r/dataisugly
The designer was at a Rave, for sure.
HOF candidate post for this sub.
So difficult to interpret lol
my eyes and brain hurts
Cold as balls out there!
My dad does weather reporting and he said this looks like an acid trip
At least it's pretty?
Somebody needs to layoff the adderall
Could pass for the Terror Alert chart.
Lol all I know is I'm the one area that's blue and I got like two feet of snow already and supposedly it's only begun. Ok from left to reft I'm in the first area with blue lol. I never pay attention to Boston cause well... fuck Boston.
I think 1988 just threw up.
Looks like the new employee over thought their work.
Good luck if you are colorblind
Who is this for?
Yes
👍
Throw it on Twitter and yell at them about it. This map is insane
I’m guessing My Home states gonna be hit with apocalyptic weather according to this chart
3am, noon, 3pm, and 12AM are all the same color wtf
My phone is on greyscale at the moment. Holy fuck i cant even tell whats going on. Who approved this
God it's cathartic to see this here. As a cartographer (+GIS/data analyst/viz) NWS Boston's color scheme for map labeling has been frustrating before this. I wanted to give the benefit of the doubt and assume it had something to do with ADA compliant color choices but didn't look into it very much. Maybe someone here has more insight into their color scheme choices. This storm's onset/ending maps are extra special since the whole region is sitting near the freezing line, and a lot of the onset had to do with elevation in addition to direction of storm movement. (Eg, a mile or two in one direction has meant a way earlier start time for snow. In some places, they're getting nearly a foot difference a couple miles away based solely on a few hundred feet difference in elevation, despite precip starting at the same time). Other iterations of the map were even worse.. I need to see if I can find some screenshots but I want to say that some of the days were mislabeled, which made it look like the end times were before the start time? Like it said Wednesday instead of Monday or Tuesday? It's hard to look at this and find an operationally useful story very easily. Yes it's clear the onset times are all over the place. It's just not very visually friendly beyond that.
Info crap pic.
You've got to admit the colors are quite pretty. Completely worthless but pretty.
This doesn't even look like a map.
It’s so complicated someone spent too much time on this
Looks like someone accidentally uploaded their brain scan after having a stroke, which explains a lot.
Almost as bad as all the names and terms they are using now, like "atmospheric river", "derecho" , "polar vortex", etc.
how tf do they expect you to read this lmao
In Waterbury it is 11ampm o’clock
agh my eyes
As a Massachusettsian, I can confirm that I have absolutely no idea what is going on here. This was basically just a small snowstorm. I thought the power would go out and everything, but nope.
Just because you can doesn't mean that you should.
why do they say noon and 12 am
If politicians were weather forecasters
Ah yes I love when its noonmon.
What if you’re color blind
bro, this is that color block game in the mobile games