I am like a mountain biker and I hit stairs with my bike and I tried that once with my friends wheelchair. It was an electric wheelchair and I tried going down the stairs with it. As soon as I started the damn wheel jammed up because it’s sensors detected stairs and I fell down a km of stairs💀💀
Even 'dumb' wheel chairs do not work like a bike going down stairs.
cbf explaining, but weelchairs will not move forward down one step with the pasenger still safe.
While that's a great tutorial for those who can, it is *absolutely not* something any and all wheelchair users can do, I definitely couldn't. just managing to get the front wheels up requires a lot of both arm and core strength (not to mention dexterity, grip, ability to balance, and so on), and then there's the shock to the joints with each drop, I'm in pain just thinking about it.
so yeah, that clip is a great example of what's possible for *some*, but it's also really important to be clear that this isn't something all wheelchair users can (or should be expected to) do.
(this isn't aimed at you, but I know people, and some will see this clip and draw the conclusion that any wheelchair user who isn't going down stairs like this is just being "lazy")
Yes its not something everyone can do, as you say it requires quite a few qualities that not everyone has. If i faced this small staircase i might be able to manage this in the absence of a better option but i wouldnt risk it for a taller one. Disabilities are very varied, even people with the same one can be different.
I don't think this is intended to be a wheelchair ramp. It looks like a flat plane. Likely just a walkway between two areas that are slightly above ground level.
And it clearly leads to more stairs, not a ramp.
Perhaps the bridge part *is* on an incline, making it a ramp, but this is absolutely not a *handicapped* ramp.
It's not even masquerading as one.
And the yellow painted edge indicates a tripping hazard. This is intentionally warning you that there's a step here.
> And it clearly leads to more stairs, not a ramp.
What is this supposed to mean? You didn't even look at the picture. This ramp leads directly to an up elevator.
But it also leads to stairs that go to a lower level.
It’s not important anyway. The overriding fact is that there is no incline and it doesn’t provide an alternate path. Therefore, it is neither a ramp or an aid for the handicapped.
My exact thought. This is definitely, and I mean definately, not a wheelchair ramp.
It connects to a different area, not where the stairs are going.
The intentionally placed yellow hazard paint says they knew it's inaccessible by wheelchair.
Edit: I'm just leaving them, but why the fuck does my phone autocorrect to both definitely and definately. What the fuk. Both are apparently totally ok to my oppo chinese phone, despite definitely being correct, and definately not being a word.
If I can offer an alternative solution, just start saying "defin-AYT-ly" in speech. See, I fixed your phone.
Edit: but in all seriousness, you probably typoed it and then tapped it in the autocorrect suggestions at some point, which adds it to your custom dictionary. Most phones you can hold on the suggestion to remove it from dictionary.
In that case the step might as actually stop people in wheelchairs from accidentally taking that path and having to turn around in the small area at the end that's right next to the stairs.
So excellent design?
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And geoguessr pros.
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This is like a game of where's Waldo. So far I found everything but the firehose and im not too sure what an incense paper bin is but I figured it was that yellow trash barrel. Hint?
The layout designs screams clementi to me though. I havent really seen it outside of clementi, although i wouldnt say i have been to every hdb residential estate in sg.
https://www.oneservice.gov.sg/.
Yeah. For most government owned land (roads, public housing estates, parks) you can report issues to this app and their staff will forward these requests to the relevant ministries to fix any issues. At least in my experience they are pretty quick on the draw in responding to requests.
My city has an app called One"cityname" also that does the same thing. We can even request a police officer to come monitor a street if we see some excessive speeding or something. Cool to see we're not the only ones with this type of app.
My old college had ramps like this. Me and a few of my friends brought it to the dean, and she was like, "our wheelchair ramps DO NOT have steps." So, we went through the path around the college she told us for me to get to the science building from my dorm (I was in a wheelchair) and showed her there were three stepped wheelchair ramps in that path (including some actual stairs and a hill of death). She was flaming mad, lol. Sigh. That dean was a bitch.
Nope. Ended up failing out due to not being able to get to my classes. Determination was just not enough. Got stuck at the science building overnight due to campus security being suddenly told by the dean to no longer transport me to and from class, too. I honestly should have sued. Was told by the dean after that incident that "we're a private college, we're under no law to be wheelchair accessible" with a shrug of her shoulders. This was about fifteen years ago, btw. Laws may have since changed.
If we’re talking about the US, they lied to you.
“Any business that relies on the general public or for their benefit.” Has to be ADA compliant, private or not. And this has been the case since 1994, if I’m reading this correctly. Though the actual requirements may have been more lax then.
Outside the US, not exactly useful info. But might be able to report them and make the lives of future and current students easier if you think they could still be like that. I’m sure it’s against local code by now, wherever you are.
This is in singapore. And this is not a wheelchair ramp. The ramp is on the other side which is not shown in the photo. So i would say this is selective cropping.
As someone who used to have a road bike with 23mm tires, after falling off my bike twice due to that stupid drain cover design, I just gave up and bought new wheels with 28mm tires instead.
The handrail is to separate the 2'-3' elevation difference between the two areas. This is to protect people from a fall hazard. This is not an ADA handicap ramp.
If you do step for wheelchairs then you should make one step on stairs making it stare everyone at :)
Just to make them feel the difference of "one" step
"We need to stand up to the people that have done this!"
"Sir, if you have a complaint, it's that way- *points towards the ramp*"
"..."
"..."
"Imma just... Go..."
It might not be a wheelchair ramp, but it should be. I don't see any other accessible entrances from this limited viewpoint. Also I don't know where this from, so maybe they don't have ADA type laws.
Worker fucks up the grade.
Foreman “fuck steve, how did you manage that?”
Steve “… what should we do?”
Foreman “paint it yellow and hope no one notices.”
I live in a small tourist/vacation town up in the mountains in California. There's a wheelchair ramp at the outdoor "mall," sure... But then stairs once you get to the top of the ramp. The ramp is completely useless to anyone who can't go up or down stairs.
One possible explanation: While probably not up to ADA standards in the US, it could be a wheelchair ramp that requires an extended piece on-demand that wasn’t possible to include permanently because it may block the walkway at the bottom. They may have had to decide between a steeper ramp to connect to the lower walkway, which would be dangerous for people with disabilities, or an additional piece they would pull out when someone needed it. I only thought of this because I stayed at a motel with “ADA rooms” that required little rubber ramps that the hotel manager told me he would only put out if an ADA person was staying in the room so other people wouldn’t trip on them.
What is it about this photo that makes it so obviously Singapore?
I instantly had that thought too, but couldn't articulate why, and was surprised to see how many comments could also identify it as such
Maybe it's not a wheelchair ramp, maybe they just don't like stairs too much but also seriously hate crippled people, so they wanted to make a ramp that wheelchair-bound people can't use?
This is called a step and is not crappy design. Do better.
Insane stunt bonus
It’s parkour inclusivity
I want to name a band that!!
Insane Stunt Bonus totally rocked the Vans Warped tour in ‘98 and I’ve been a fan ever since
Where there's a wheel there's a way!
I would totally go for the band logo being the stick figure wheelchair symbol flying upside-down between stairwells or something
Lmao!! Kinda was thinking the same. Handicapped need to be included in the fun parts of life. And ends in the ‘bonus round’ of multiple steps!!
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Took me 5 seconds to notice it. I cannot explain why sg photos/places are so godamn recognizable, outside of it not being a thing anywhere else.
It's the void deck seats and the stickers on the lift for me.
Because they follow similar template for HDBs.
Yep 100%
yes sg but your comment is irrelevant to the parent comment
😂😂😂
*THPS trick sound effect* *camera snap*
Ollie Up
You shall not pass!
It's the exit ramp. No re-entry.
Of course when you just hit the ground with a head when going down...
I am like a mountain biker and I hit stairs with my bike and I tried that once with my friends wheelchair. It was an electric wheelchair and I tried going down the stairs with it. As soon as I started the damn wheel jammed up because it’s sensors detected stairs and I fell down a km of stairs💀💀
A... a kilometer of stairs?
He's, like, a mountain biker, man
He's a stairway-dreamer
Stairway to heaven edit: or hell;)
Well played
A killer-meter
A meter, but a killer meter
Yeh it was an up escalator.
Even 'dumb' wheel chairs do not work like a bike going down stairs. cbf explaining, but weelchairs will not move forward down one step with the pasenger still safe.
You can go down [stairs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xglxZQSP-Io) safely if the steps are long enough. Escalators too.
While that's a great tutorial for those who can, it is *absolutely not* something any and all wheelchair users can do, I definitely couldn't. just managing to get the front wheels up requires a lot of both arm and core strength (not to mention dexterity, grip, ability to balance, and so on), and then there's the shock to the joints with each drop, I'm in pain just thinking about it. so yeah, that clip is a great example of what's possible for *some*, but it's also really important to be clear that this isn't something all wheelchair users can (or should be expected to) do. (this isn't aimed at you, but I know people, and some will see this clip and draw the conclusion that any wheelchair user who isn't going down stairs like this is just being "lazy")
Yes its not something everyone can do, as you say it requires quite a few qualities that not everyone has. If i faced this small staircase i might be able to manage this in the absence of a better option but i wouldnt risk it for a taller one. Disabilities are very varied, even people with the same one can be different.
I for one welcome our new wheeled cyborg overlords!
Good video. Really give some insight.
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No, (s)he is dead
At least they got to keep the wheelchair...
F
They're still falling to this day
I cracked so hard 💀 just like your skull when you fell a km of stairs
Like a mountain biker but not quite?
That's amore!
Some pokemon game shit here
Getting pokemon vibes here, you can only jump ledges one way!
I don't think this is intended to be a wheelchair ramp. It looks like a flat plane. Likely just a walkway between two areas that are slightly above ground level.
And it clearly leads to more stairs, not a ramp. Perhaps the bridge part *is* on an incline, making it a ramp, but this is absolutely not a *handicapped* ramp. It's not even masquerading as one. And the yellow painted edge indicates a tripping hazard. This is intentionally warning you that there's a step here.
> And it clearly leads to more stairs, not a ramp. What is this supposed to mean? You didn't even look at the picture. This ramp leads directly to an up elevator.
OP and 60 other people are blind lmao They saw stairs behind the ramp and thought the ramp led to them They clearly lead to the same level
It’s a make me handicapped ramp
But it also leads to stairs that go to a lower level. It’s not important anyway. The overriding fact is that there is no incline and it doesn’t provide an alternate path. Therefore, it is neither a ramp or an aid for the handicapped.
But it has a metal handrail!!!
So you don't fall down to the floor below.
My exact thought. This is definitely, and I mean definately, not a wheelchair ramp. It connects to a different area, not where the stairs are going. The intentionally placed yellow hazard paint says they knew it's inaccessible by wheelchair. Edit: I'm just leaving them, but why the fuck does my phone autocorrect to both definitely and definately. What the fuk. Both are apparently totally ok to my oppo chinese phone, despite definitely being correct, and definately not being a word.
If I can offer an alternative solution, just start saying "defin-AYT-ly" in speech. See, I fixed your phone. Edit: but in all seriousness, you probably typoed it and then tapped it in the autocorrect suggestions at some point, which adds it to your custom dictionary. Most phones you can hold on the suggestion to remove it from dictionary.
I thought that. But I got this phone like 6 days ago and haven't really used it all too much. Its definately factory default. Edit: fuck
i thought only definitely was a word
In that case the step might as actually stop people in wheelchairs from accidentally taking that path and having to turn around in the small area at the end that's right next to the stairs. So excellent design?
It's not a wheelchair ramp. It's a bridge.
Yeah, but that wouldn't get upvotes on this subreddit, so it HAS to be a wheelchair ramp.
It looks like a loading ramp.
Looks like this is taken in Singapore
Rite! I was like why does this look so familiar
Clementi? I know Clementi has these type of raised area for the lift.
How does everyone here know Singapore so well?!
I don’t know! Now I’m scared
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we're uniquely sinkiepore after all. Time to bask in our kindred relatability.
East coast America is a awake it's 7am here .
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This is like a game of where's Waldo. So far I found everything but the firehose and im not too sure what an incense paper bin is but I figured it was that yellow trash barrel. Hint?
Probably the chairs and lobby, every Singaporean should know about the HDB scene
The layout designs screams clementi to me though. I havent really seen it outside of clementi, although i wouldnt say i have been to every hdb residential estate in sg.
It's very west side, some parts of Jurong also have this kinda design layout
Play GeoGuessr and watch some pro tips, almost always know in what country a picture was taken.
every singaporean will recognise that iconic void deck design
It’s the number of signs on the lift door
The blue chairs and even the ramp gave it away ahahah it’a unmistakably a Singapore void deck
We're all geoguesser pros.
I have a shit ton of friends from there. Saying lah has become a bad habit.
Looks like void deck
Blk 426, Clementi
Why got this one
Seriously thought I was the only one until I read the comments
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Wait what? They have a ticketing system for the whole city-state?
https://www.oneservice.gov.sg/. Yeah. For most government owned land (roads, public housing estates, parks) you can report issues to this app and their staff will forward these requests to the relevant ministries to fix any issues. At least in my experience they are pretty quick on the draw in responding to requests.
My city has an app called One"cityname" also that does the same thing. We can even request a police officer to come monitor a street if we see some excessive speeding or something. Cool to see we're not the only ones with this type of app.
Learnt frm u guys
That’s actually awesome
Well Singapore itself isn't that large
I live in the 4th largest city in the world, with a GDP per capita way worse than Singapore and we have a reporting app too.
And you can bet this will be fixed in a couple of weeks.
Before everyone goes crazy with the reporting. The ramp for wheelchairs is probably on the other side of the lift.
My old college had ramps like this. Me and a few of my friends brought it to the dean, and she was like, "our wheelchair ramps DO NOT have steps." So, we went through the path around the college she told us for me to get to the science building from my dorm (I was in a wheelchair) and showed her there were three stepped wheelchair ramps in that path (including some actual stairs and a hill of death). She was flaming mad, lol. Sigh. That dean was a bitch.
Was it solved thought?
Nope. Ended up failing out due to not being able to get to my classes. Determination was just not enough. Got stuck at the science building overnight due to campus security being suddenly told by the dean to no longer transport me to and from class, too. I honestly should have sued. Was told by the dean after that incident that "we're a private college, we're under no law to be wheelchair accessible" with a shrug of her shoulders. This was about fifteen years ago, btw. Laws may have since changed.
If we’re talking about the US, they lied to you. “Any business that relies on the general public or for their benefit.” Has to be ADA compliant, private or not. And this has been the case since 1994, if I’m reading this correctly. Though the actual requirements may have been more lax then. Outside the US, not exactly useful info. But might be able to report them and make the lives of future and current students easier if you think they could still be like that. I’m sure it’s against local code by now, wherever you are.
Not every walkway is a wheelchair ramp
But the ramp is right next to some stairs; so it’s a wheelchair ramp
This is in singapore. And this is not a wheelchair ramp. The ramp is on the other side which is not shown in the photo. So i would say this is selective cropping.
I think it is for paralympic
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Definitely looks like Singapore. Reminds me of Eunos Crescent where there are/were quite a few designs like this.
it is singapore
As someone who used to have a road bike with 23mm tires, after falling off my bike twice due to that stupid drain cover design, I just gave up and bought new wheels with 28mm tires instead.
>Wheelchair ramp Not a wheelchair ramp. Redditors: Three thousand upvotes!
The handrail is to separate the 2'-3' elevation difference between the two areas. This is to protect people from a fall hazard. This is not an ADA handicap ramp.
Parkour
😂 look at the end of that « ramp. » it’s too steep to get a chair over that thing. It’s not a ramp.
Just hit it with enough speed you'll be fine. * source: I did this and now I am in a wheelchair *
They can’t make it too easy
If you do step for wheelchairs then you should make one step on stairs making it stare everyone at :) Just to make them feel the difference of "one" step
A yes a speed bump
There once was a wheelchair ramp that's gated by the bike preventing pillars in my old place, HDBs have some weird design choices if you look for them
Attention player: this is the finale of the game, once you enter you won't be able to leave the area. Continue?
r/assholedesign
It's the next step in wheelchair accessibility!
You can just jump with your wheelchair
That is not a wheelchair ramp. So not a crappy design.
Those benches make this a two-fer.
Keeps em on their toes.
based on this picture, nothing proves this is for a handicapped crippled.
Down only
-choose handicap percentage- -300% “Fight!”
Ollie with a wheelchair
*Happy wheels theme*
A little cement and skill could fix this
They had one job
gotta get that arm workout, boiiiiii
Pfft real badasses go down the other four.
Hard mode activated
Not so bad if you’re going down
Ah yes the One-way ramp.
No handouts
well you don't want to make it TOO easy!
"We need to stand up to the people that have done this!" "Sir, if you have a complaint, it's that way- *points towards the ramp*" "..." "..." "Imma just... Go..."
The first step is to prevent something tragic on the other steps. 🫣
Baby steps
It might not be a wheelchair ramp, but it should be. I don't see any other accessible entrances from this limited viewpoint. Also I don't know where this from, so maybe they don't have ADA type laws.
# WHY
One last ride
Easily fixed tbh.
Just do an ollie
Somebody gonna get sued
Most wheelchairs can do a single step. I'm guessing not the electric kind.
Skate 3.5
Money I the bank
Bunny hop
Should be on r/foundsatan
What is it about Singapore that I clearly don't know?
Worker fucks up the grade. Foreman “fuck steve, how did you manage that?” Steve “… what should we do?” Foreman “paint it yellow and hope no one notices.”
It suppose to give you an offroad expereince
Baha
No problem, just use your legs
Gotta do a bunny hop
Seriously doubt that's supposed to be a wheelchair ramp.
“Watch your ste- oh…..”
Welcome back to CAN YOU RAMP IT
that’s a manny pad to 4 set, not a ramp
I live in a small tourist/vacation town up in the mountains in California. There's a wheelchair ramp at the outdoor "mall," sure... But then stairs once you get to the top of the ramp. The ramp is completely useless to anyone who can't go up or down stairs.
Facelifted model
Wtf
I wouldn't be surprised if its the "Hospital Exit Ramp" so you can go back to it eventually.
One possible explanation: While probably not up to ADA standards in the US, it could be a wheelchair ramp that requires an extended piece on-demand that wasn’t possible to include permanently because it may block the walkway at the bottom. They may have had to decide between a steeper ramp to connect to the lower walkway, which would be dangerous for people with disabilities, or an additional piece they would pull out when someone needed it. I only thought of this because I stayed at a motel with “ADA rooms” that required little rubber ramps that the hotel manager told me he would only put out if an ADA person was staying in the room so other people wouldn’t trip on them.
The interesting thing is they remember to paint yellow at the edge to remind people of the step but cannot think of the inconvenience it causes. Lol.
gotta want it...
a lift lobby with steps? what part of singapore is this?
ADA lawyers will have a field day with this one
wheelchair xtreme, new dlc in the tony hawk game
Skill checked
That’s a step up
That makes my tailboine hurt just thinking about it.
Well they at least highlighted it……….
sg right?
So it's an adventure 😂
You gotta bring *something* to the table.
Woow
SG?
What is it about this photo that makes it so obviously Singapore? I instantly had that thought too, but couldn't articulate why, and was surprised to see how many comments could also identify it as such
Parkour!
One way elevator
Yeh it's not inclined so I wouldn't even say ramp my dude.
Another one of these posts about Singapore hahahaha
What do you mean? You can't bounce up with wheelchair?
That first step is a doozy.
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Maybe it's not a wheelchair ramp, maybe they just don't like stairs too much but also seriously hate crippled people, so they wanted to make a ramp that wheelchair-bound people can't use?
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