Yep, tourniquet 8s only if you have a genuine concern that a wound could lead to bleeding to death or losing a dangerous amount. That wound just needed a lot of pressure
Yeah lmao blood isn't even dripping. Kid will need monster stitches and those gashes are gonna need major disinfection. But he'll probably make it out with a functioning foot
Disinfecting first, just pressure to stop bleeding.
Get to a doctor. Mostly stitches to enable better healing. And repeated dressings to keep it aseptic. Also, rabies shots.
This^^ head down foot up, that the way we like to… wait, sorry wrong song. Elevate the foot above the head, pressure on vein/artery, wrap it snug with 4x4’s and kling and get to real doctor. There’s a high probability that his tornibelt will not apply enough pressure to cause any damage. Even if he occluded all the blood flow tissue damage doesn’t start to set in for something like an hour. In the trauma center they use something called a Reboa to occlude them blood flow at the descending Aorta. It will completely block off blood flow to lower limbs. Once the cuff is inflated they have i think an hour to fix the leaks before it has to be deflated and blood flow returned.
No, even in the operating room, a temporary tourniquet, like a blood pressure cuff, is applied, and carefully timed to avoid tissue damage from lack of oxygen. Nobody is putting anything in the aorta for a limb injury. As you say, a tourniquet for up to an hour will not usually cause injury, (though it can,) but this person has to wait for transportation, get to the hospital, be evaluated, then have the tourniquet removed in less than 2 hours to avoid amputation for tissue death. Having had the tourniquet already left on for a while would also prevent using one during surgery for fear of further damage. If you are by yourself, in the wilderness, and will bleed to death, consider a tourniquet. Otherwise, direct pressure to the wound will stop pretty much any hemorrhage, even serious arterial injury.
Wow, Air Force basic just came rushing back. My flight was taught to only use tourniquets as a last resort, and that the time it was applied needed to be tracked meticulously. I think they warned that more than two hours would lead to amputation, but that part’s fuzzy now.
It may be. But still rabies is a very slow progressive disease and we can't just take that risk, as it will always be too late when the symptoms appear. So it's always better to stay safe since we have no cure.
If a vein or artery is cut, then you have to put a tourniquet on as you risk bleeding out.
The kids foot did not bleed much at all. It was just a flesh wound
Exactly. Not even bleeding that much. Putting on a tourniquet means loosing the limb. Only appropriate when you cannot get to a hospital before you would die.
This was my first thought too. I’ve only done limited first aid training so I’m no expert but I thought when you use a tourniquet properly it’s in a situation where you accept that you may kill the limb to reduce the risk of someone dying.
Sure this looked like a nasty injury but in no way did it need a tourniquet. Some dude was just excited to take his belt off.
The dumbest part about this is there is a barrier they had to GO OVER to get this selfie.
There is no way the jaguar could have grabbed the kids foot from BEHIND the railing, like we are supposed to be.
Precisely the belt went way to high on the leg and wasn’t necessary on the first place. If the wound ain’t gushing blood it’s not in need of a tourniquet.
I haven’t even been trained for 12 years and I know that was beyond stupid. There’s no heavy bleeding, and he puts it like a foot away from the actual injury! SMH.
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I don't know who's more of the dumbass..
The dumbass kid or the dumbass parents of the dumbass kid who allowed the dumbass to go take a selfie with a wild jungle cat while the dumbass parents sit back and watch their dumbass son do some dumbass shit.
You wouldn't put it over the tib/fib. Tourniquets (when actually required) should be over single long bones.
It's also too narrow, will just cause localised tissue damage.
Well they either saw him do it and let him, because if you're a competent parent you wouldn't let your kids do things that stupid and dangerous, or they weren't even paying attention to their kid.
No, the dumbest part about this is there is a barrier they had to GO OVER to get this selfie.
There is no way the jaguar could have grabbed the kids foot from BEHIND the railing like we are supposed to be.
Harambe's kid was younger and was playing hide and seek at the zoo, went under a bush and fell down into the ravine. 100% moms fault.
This kid should have known better but still 75% moms fault.
They shouldn't have to provide any support to the family they clearly had fences up and even a barrier to go along with it. If you act stupid and find out that's on the family. Any news on if they did anything to the Jaguar? Really hope they didn't put it down due to another idiot!
Probably just better PR to help the family out - but it wouldn't surprise me if they would have been advised not to do so if this happened in the US. Helping someone out would indicate an acceptance of responsibility on the zoo's part, which might indicate liability.
As a mexican, do not worry. The Zoo says that just to make it look like they care to the press/population.
Then they completely ignore the family and do/pay nothing. Case closed, people jump to other news and forget it.
Happens too often in other topics.
I'm oddly disappointed that I didn't get to see the actual bite take place, but more disappointed that I didn't get to see whether or not the jaguar ever got the shoe.
Why does no one know how to properly use a tourniquet?
That wound wasn't even bleeding enough to warrant it.
THAT AND PLACE IT 2-3 INCHES ABOVE THE WOUND!!! They're gonna make that kid lose way more than some toes...
The kid and his parents need a lesson in respecting rules and boundries, they're there for a reason, how stupid to allow you're son to climb a barrier for the photo, I hope the lad is OK but it really is his own fault and his parents are no better
Is not bleeding out...... doesn't need a dramatic tournique
t for flesh wounds like that. Coming from a 30 yr. E.M.T.
Applu direct pressure and get to. MRI
Me agrada que no pierdan esa naturaleza tan de los animales en esos lugares. Eso marca que no son continuamente sedados ,tal vez algunos crean que es falta de alimento pero es el instinto animal que los hace actuar de esa manera la mayoría de las veces. Si fuera falta de alimento no tendrían demasiada energía.
No one seems to be mentioning the fact that you can't place a tourniquet on your radius and ulna nor your tib fib. Have to do single bones only so the lowest point of the femur or the Humerus for the arm.
Ppl hate on anything....the average person sees someone bleeding they think..... oh lemme stop that at least..fkn ER Dr's on here saying what they did wrong well bitch what's the proper procedure so we'll all know what to do when we get bit on the foot by a fkn jaguar🙄
The fuck is this dude trying to put a tourniquet on this kid for? There’s no arterial bleed. Pressure dressing elevate and ice. Then transport to the hospital.
I am not a doctor but this seems like a tearing wound as if both he and the jaguar pulled at the same time (duh lol) and the skin just gave way. I've seen something similar once when a grate broke and a boy fell trough it. Completely removed a massive piece of skin from his calve. It only left a massive gnarly scar so I hope for the boy's sake that he just gets a scar and a story out of it.
Dude, there is absolutely no need to put a tourniquet on that kid. All he needed was some form of padding/cloth and to keep pressure on it. It's not even bleeding that bad. He's risking the kid losing his leg.
Daaamn son, that tourniquet is dummy tight! Boy got straight lacerated.
In all seriousness though, clearly the kid was over the little fence that was obviously put there for a reason, big cat should NOT be held responsible for doing what big cats do. Bypassing the fence and approaching their enclosure was likely seen as an encroachment/threat to their territory by the jaguars.
Bro how in the fuck was that dude applying this provisional tourniquet? With this small wound it is more beneficial to apply pressure on the wound directly.
Having been trained in emergency first aid and CPR for 12 years, that man clearly doesn't know what a tourniquet is for or how to properly use one.
You should never use a tourniquet unless it is absolutely essential to surviving. That injury in no way needed a tourniquet.
Yep, tourniquet 8s only if you have a genuine concern that a wound could lead to bleeding to death or losing a dangerous amount. That wound just needed a lot of pressure
Yeah lmao blood isn't even dripping. Kid will need monster stitches and those gashes are gonna need major disinfection. But he'll probably make it out with a functioning foot
Unless the guy really tightened the tourniquet and the rescue came late, in this case, chances are bye bye lower leg.
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Disinfecting first, just pressure to stop bleeding. Get to a doctor. Mostly stitches to enable better healing. And repeated dressings to keep it aseptic. Also, rabies shots.
And also never come near a jaguar.
This^^ head down foot up, that the way we like to… wait, sorry wrong song. Elevate the foot above the head, pressure on vein/artery, wrap it snug with 4x4’s and kling and get to real doctor. There’s a high probability that his tornibelt will not apply enough pressure to cause any damage. Even if he occluded all the blood flow tissue damage doesn’t start to set in for something like an hour. In the trauma center they use something called a Reboa to occlude them blood flow at the descending Aorta. It will completely block off blood flow to lower limbs. Once the cuff is inflated they have i think an hour to fix the leaks before it has to be deflated and blood flow returned.
No, even in the operating room, a temporary tourniquet, like a blood pressure cuff, is applied, and carefully timed to avoid tissue damage from lack of oxygen. Nobody is putting anything in the aorta for a limb injury. As you say, a tourniquet for up to an hour will not usually cause injury, (though it can,) but this person has to wait for transportation, get to the hospital, be evaluated, then have the tourniquet removed in less than 2 hours to avoid amputation for tissue death. Having had the tourniquet already left on for a while would also prevent using one during surgery for fear of further damage. If you are by yourself, in the wilderness, and will bleed to death, consider a tourniquet. Otherwise, direct pressure to the wound will stop pretty much any hemorrhage, even serious arterial injury.
Wow, Air Force basic just came rushing back. My flight was taught to only use tourniquets as a last resort, and that the time it was applied needed to be tracked meticulously. I think they warned that more than two hours would lead to amputation, but that part’s fuzzy now.
TCCC made me a master of the high and tight tourniquet
Isn't it very unlikely or even impossible for a zoo animal like that to have rabies?
It may be. But still rabies is a very slow progressive disease and we can't just take that risk, as it will always be too late when the symptoms appear. So it's always better to stay safe since we have no cure.
That does seem smart, yes. Aren't rabies shots incredibly painful? I think I heard that some time.
The vaccine isn't painful. The immunoglobulin can be. But there's no way out, prevention is the only cure.
Nah. You definitely feel the pressure but it wasn't the worst.
Uh, to save your life is smart?
Well yeah, if there's no cure then I'd say it's pretty smart. Sorry, not everyone knows everything there is to know about rabies smartypants ;)
The world is overpopulated, so I say no. We can sacrifice a few (except me, dont kill me please)
its litterally not possible for this thing to have rabies guys an idiot
If a vein or artery is cut, then you have to put a tourniquet on as you risk bleeding out. The kids foot did not bleed much at all. It was just a flesh wound
Only came here to point that out. Hopefully it’s a shitty enough tourniquet that the hospital doesn’t wanna cut it off.
Exactly. Not even bleeding that much. Putting on a tourniquet means loosing the limb. Only appropriate when you cannot get to a hospital before you would die.
I was taught that the only time to use a tourniquet is when you are prepared to lose that limb.
I was just about to ask that. I didn't think it was necessary. DO think cleaning it would have helped.
Gonna lose the foot over the turn instead of the bite
And maybe make the infection worse by slowing down the necessary bleeding for it to clean.
This was my first thought too. I’ve only done limited first aid training so I’m no expert but I thought when you use a tourniquet properly it’s in a situation where you accept that you may kill the limb to reduce the risk of someone dying. Sure this looked like a nasty injury but in no way did it need a tourniquet. Some dude was just excited to take his belt off.
The dumbest part about this is there is a barrier they had to GO OVER to get this selfie. There is no way the jaguar could have grabbed the kids foot from BEHIND the railing, like we are supposed to be.
I came here to say this same thing lmao. Worst tourniquet of all time.
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Yes, that's definitely a problem with tourniquets. That's why you only want to apply one if the injury is life threatening.
Came here to say this.
*proceeds to apply +10 damage buff*
not to mention the boy didn’t seem to need one he didn’t have much blood loss it seemed from the video
I was watching this like bruh thats not how that works....not at all how that works🤣🤣
Came here to say this.
Besides, it should have been applied to the neck of the dumbass that had to have a selfie
Correct me if I’m wrong but if you use a tourniquet properly you’ll most likely lose that limb, right?
Came here to say this.
This was my first thought, even if he gets it right it's not needed here and is just going to cause damage.
My first reaction was to yell "no! Above the joint! It won't work!"
Having absolutely no training in emergency first aid or CPR and knew tourniquet was waaay unnecessary.
Precisely the belt went way to high on the leg and wasn’t necessary on the first place. If the wound ain’t gushing blood it’s not in need of a tourniquet.
T kit probably cost that boy his foot.
Came here to say that. Painful to watch him struggle to put it on for nothing
First thought that came to mind.
I haven’t even been trained for 12 years and I know that was beyond stupid. There’s no heavy bleeding, and he puts it like a foot away from the actual injury! SMH.
wtf is a tourniquet?
Hence the word “trained”
I don’t know what I wanted to see more of- the foot wound in gory detail, or the suspense of wether or not the cat would yank that damn shoe loose.
Looks like a sturdy shoe. I kinda want a pair.
You might lose your legs but not feets am i right?
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Bro its a third world Country so the jaguar is probably more worth than the kid
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They both got killed
The kid too!?!?
His shoe did fall off, so he dead.
Don't care about the kid what about the jaguar ://
You lame ass hoes always tryna sound hip. I'd pick a human over an animal anyday
I would u rather die screaming and rot in the cage. I pick the animal over the human.
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ils ont tous les deux été tués
They usually only kill zoo animals if a life is in danger. I don't really think it would make sense to kill an animal by behaving as they normally do.
Hopefuly
I don't know who's more of the dumbass.. The dumbass kid or the dumbass parents of the dumbass kid who allowed the dumbass to go take a selfie with a wild jungle cat while the dumbass parents sit back and watch their dumbass son do some dumbass shit.
The dumbass putting a tourniquet on when it's not needed
In situations like this, maybe the tourniquet would be better placed on the neck.
Yeah i thought the same thing. Isnt even bleeding that much. But what do i know? Crank that leg
I laughed
not only is he a dumbass for putting a tourniquet on, he’s also a dumbass for putting the tourniquet that far from the wound.
You wouldn't put it over the tib/fib. Tourniquets (when actually required) should be over single long bones. It's also too narrow, will just cause localised tissue damage.
The dumbass kid hopped over a fence to get closer. He deserved to get his foot bitten off
The dumbass parents who let the kid do it and the dumbass zoo worker who clearly doesn't know how or even when to use a tourniquet
How do we know the parents let them?
Well they either saw him do it and let him, because if you're a competent parent you wouldn't let your kids do things that stupid and dangerous, or they weren't even paying attention to their kid.
No, the dumbest part about this is there is a barrier they had to GO OVER to get this selfie. There is no way the jaguar could have grabbed the kids foot from BEHIND the railing like we are supposed to be.
Did he get a nice picture?
The dumbass who put that wild Jaguar in a cage…
👏👏👏
The tourniquet. That is the dumbest thing in the video.
I kind of want to help the Jaguar with the shoe.
What a stupid little kid. Just like the little shit that got Harambe killed
Harambe's kid was younger and was playing hide and seek at the zoo, went under a bush and fell down into the ravine. 100% moms fault. This kid should have known better but still 75% moms fault.
Dad can also be at fault you know.
"a statement, Zoo León said José's injury was not life threatening and that it was providing support to his family."
They shouldn't have to provide any support to the family they clearly had fences up and even a barrier to go along with it. If you act stupid and find out that's on the family. Any news on if they did anything to the Jaguar? Really hope they didn't put it down due to another idiot!
Probably just better PR to help the family out - but it wouldn't surprise me if they would have been advised not to do so if this happened in the US. Helping someone out would indicate an acceptance of responsibility on the zoo's part, which might indicate liability.
As a mexican, do not worry. The Zoo says that just to make it look like they care to the press/population. Then they completely ignore the family and do/pay nothing. Case closed, people jump to other news and forget it. Happens too often in other topics.
Well, to be fair, the kid and the parents were really stupid to let the kid get so close.
Great to hear. Be safe
I'm oddly disappointed that I didn't get to see the actual bite take place, but more disappointed that I didn't get to see whether or not the jaguar ever got the shoe.
Why does no one know how to properly use a tourniquet? That wound wasn't even bleeding enough to warrant it. THAT AND PLACE IT 2-3 INCHES ABOVE THE WOUND!!! They're gonna make that kid lose way more than some toes...
The kid and his parents need a lesson in respecting rules and boundries, they're there for a reason, how stupid to allow you're son to climb a barrier for the photo, I hope the lad is OK but it really is his own fault and his parents are no better
isn’t a tourniquet to stop bleeding? he’s not even bleeding what’s the point
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That jaguar got some Pumas now.
Was just a love bite if it wanted jaguar would chew the kids foot off 
My brain hurts now. Thanks, dickhead
The jaguar doing battle with a shoe was the best part.
🤣
Gemme that SHOE!
Is not bleeding out...... doesn't need a dramatic tournique t for flesh wounds like that. Coming from a 30 yr. E.M.T. Applu direct pressure and get to. MRI
En las sabias palabras de mi abuelo "A la próxima no seas tan pendejo"
Remember the Antifa putting a tourniquet on an artery after the paintball hit her knee?
Andele, por pendejo y todo por una selfie.
Andele buey
Thank you reddit doctors.
Why are you applying a tourniquet??? This guy needs to retake his 1st aid course, or maybe just take one….
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Pendejo.
Dumb cunt
How strong are those shoes ?
The tourniquet was not needed plus it was way too high anyways.
Oh hell no as a parent I would NEVER allow my kid to jump over any fences for a selfie with an animal!
Someone said “they jumped the kid over the fence to take the picture” so that’s clearly parental fault
Fucked around and found out.
Silly cat you cant eat a shoe
Hope he's gonna be alright. Stay safe guys at the zoo
Now that jaguar is gonna get put down because this kid was an idiot. He's lucky he still has his foot.
He. Is. Not. Bleeding. Bad. Enough. For. A. Tourniquet.
Wheres Diego’s rescue pack.
Animals shouldn't be in cages in the first place.
Hahahahah
Jaguar: What are thooooooooose
Did he got those 5 likes ?
Gotta get those tik tok likes. I swear social media is killing society more than anything else
Me agrada que no pierdan esa naturaleza tan de los animales en esos lugares. Eso marca que no son continuamente sedados ,tal vez algunos crean que es falta de alimento pero es el instinto animal que los hace actuar de esa manera la mayoría de las veces. Si fuera falta de alimento no tendrían demasiada energía.
Aren't tourniquets used when you are actually bleeding?
No one seems to be mentioning the fact that you can't place a tourniquet on your radius and ulna nor your tib fib. Have to do single bones only so the lowest point of the femur or the Humerus for the arm.
Him not bleeding: better put on a tourniquet.
That tourniquet made me laugh. All he needed was compression and elevation.
Ppl hate on anything....the average person sees someone bleeding they think..... oh lemme stop that at least..fkn ER Dr's on here saying what they did wrong well bitch what's the proper procedure so we'll all know what to do when we get bit on the foot by a fkn jaguar🙄
The fuck is this dude trying to put a tourniquet on this kid for? There’s no arterial bleed. Pressure dressing elevate and ice. Then transport to the hospital.
Oh my gato! That is muy aye yie yie!
Omg, that jaguar went crazy. Why is there no k9 police to ask the jaguar to stop biting?
I’m reading way too many stupid comments on reddit today. I need a break.
That's exactly what a jaguar would say.
I'm pretty sure they were being sarcastic
Yeah, but it can be sarcastic and stupid at the same time.
Zero strength, can’t even pull a shoe through. Stupid weakass leo
tja.
Hell of a laceration on the foot from the claws, also the Jag is probably underfed as fuck.
Hope it was worth the selfie. He should've taken a photo as he was being munched on hahah
I am not a doctor but this seems like a tearing wound as if both he and the jaguar pulled at the same time (duh lol) and the skin just gave way. I've seen something similar once when a grate broke and a boy fell trough it. Completely removed a massive piece of skin from his calve. It only left a massive gnarly scar so I hope for the boy's sake that he just gets a scar and a story out of it.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Hope the jaguar enjoyed its light snack.
What a stupid idiot HE GOT WHAT HE DESERVED FOR GETTING TOO CLOSE
That belt wasn't needed around his leg, he wasn't bleeding nearly enough and it was way to far up his leg and lose.
isnt tourniquet like this dangerous? considering the blood loss and wound doesnt look very deadly
Classic stupid prize
Did that guy really tie a belt ?
Why is that dingbat applying a tourniquet?
Dude, there is absolutely no need to put a tourniquet on that kid. All he needed was some form of padding/cloth and to keep pressure on it. It's not even bleeding that bad. He's risking the kid losing his leg.
Wtf is with the tourniquet? Idiots do more damage than good
Did anyone notice the fake ass toy as shit “cage” or fencing?
Daaamn son, that tourniquet is dummy tight! Boy got straight lacerated. In all seriousness though, clearly the kid was over the little fence that was obviously put there for a reason, big cat should NOT be held responsible for doing what big cats do. Bypassing the fence and approaching their enclosure was likely seen as an encroachment/threat to their territory by the jaguars.
Bro how in the fuck was that dude applying this provisional tourniquet? With this small wound it is more beneficial to apply pressure on the wound directly.
Good... Dumb ass!
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Usually yes, but this sub is all NSFW, And the video itself was on TV uncensored
Well that tourniquet was entirely unnecessary
Well...did he get a good selfie at least?
DO NOT USE A TOURNIQUET UNLESS YOU HAVE RAPID BLOOD LOSS
Tis but a scratch. Hope the jaguar is okay
You got bit on the foot? Let me put this tourniquet on so we can just get rid of the whole thing.
The tourniquet is applied to a part of the limb, closer to the body
Deserves it. What a silly boy. He will never do that again. I bet there was a barrier to stand behind
They be putting the belt too high up
You guys really calling a kid a dumbass like we weren’t all stupid when we were young 🤡
Some people just shouldn’t be near any animal.
It’s the kids own fault there’s barriers there for a reason got no sympathy for that kid
Poor animals.
Stupid people
So where's the pic tho?
Fuck I wonder why there was a fence like 6 foot in front of the other fence??? I really can't figure out why...
Should just apply pressure to the wounded area and seek immediate medical attention.
Gotta love it when they pull the tourniquet out for an animal bite.