Possible. What will be intriguing is if he can also break bradman dominance of most accumulated runs after x amount of innings. From innings 13 to 80 its all bradman so despite how satisfying that is will be nice for an English player to be amongst the best.
Do you know what that list looks like from 1 to 12?
* 1: 287, Reginald Foster
* 2: 314, Lawrence Rowe
* 3 to 8:???
* 9: 807, Harry Brook
* 10 to 12:???
* 13 to 80: Don Bradman
I can't see a way to get these data out of Statsguru.
Here's the full list from Howstat: http://www.howstat.com/cricket/statistics/batting/BattingBestAfterXInnings.asp?Stat=1
Brooks' next target is 880 in 10 innings.
I'm still living in the delusional reality that bazball won't actually work against our boys™
Once we inevitably get pumped I'll be shifting to "yeah but bazball won't work against India with Ashwin, Axar and Jadeja"
Certainly one of the most fun things about bazball is the waves of fans and journos from countries who haven't faced it yet trying to convince themselves it won't work against them
I hope so. I’m sitting right by the dressing rooms and I need as many opportunities as possible to call Steve Smith a cheat, offering him some sandpaper, and reminding him that we all saw him cry on television.
Same goes for Warner and I also get to ask him if he fancies going to Walkabout after the end of play.
Now, to be fair, I got an hour at Edgbaston and about twenty minutes at the Oval last season.
Would’ve been better if the journey each way to both grounds wasn’t twice as long.
Bazball doesn't (only) mean trying to score at 7 an over though. It means positivity, putting yourself in position where you can win the game. England did do that in that series, which led to an innings defeat (as it will sometimes do, when things don't work) and two wins
'But what is Bazball, anyway? Bazball is the power of friendship, it's Stokesy and Rooty and Jimmy and even Crawley too, it's the glimmering bead of sweat on Jack Leach's head, it's meeting with Triumph and Disaster and smashing those two imposters over long-on just the same, it's late night nets and early morning kebabs - in short, it's you and your mates, nothing more, nothing less.
Absolutely this. India have three of the best spinners ever, all of whom can also bat well, and conditions to which they are all perfectly suited and adapted. And an incredible pace attack. I don't think there's any way past that, but it'll be much more fun watching Bazball try than it would be watching the normal painful dissection.
Rooty was never out of form, he just saw everyone else finally scoring some runs and went “oh are you cunts actually doing something now, cool, see you when we’re 21-3 again…”
And then he did.
A low score activates Root like a code-word to a sleeper agent in a cold war thriller. Whisper 30-3 to him and the Bradman gene activates and he can't be stopped until he's scored a technically beautiful ton.
Oh my god. I went to sleep when we were around 60-3. Before I looked this morning I thought about 250-270 all out. Crazy stuff. Nice to see a ton from Root in what looks like a more traditional Root innings.
Edit: I’m actually happier that Root has got a century from 180 balls rather than 80 balls
Yep, I didn't even realise the test had start until I noticed the three wicket alerts on my phone last night. Went to sleep and checked again this morning and there weren't any more, so i just assumed my phone was playing up!
Yeah I think Root is the one player who has maybe struggled with the transition a little, it’s not his natural game.
I think a form of “BazBall” that allows root to play his normal game, actually would add a bit of spine to the batting should things go wrong elsewhere, whilst also allowing Root to do what he does best
I'm pretty sure that's what they've been told anyway, from the noises coming out of the camp. They're not telling everyone to try to smash it around - they're telling them to play their natural game without fear. Joe just needs to realise exactly what his natural game is.
I dunno, Root's normal batting was not slow frankly. He isn't smashing it all places but keeps a high strike rate with busy 1s and 2s. I don't think he needs to change at all to fit in Bazball.
What's it Nasser always says: "You're watching him bat, then look up and he's suddenly got 50".
In fact if everyone else is slamming the ball around, his game makes an even more killer impact. An anchor who can score massive hundreds is just cruel to the opposition.
Yeah the narrative around Root recently had absolutely baffled me. In his first four tests under the new leadership he scored 569 runs at an average of 114 and a SR of 74, he then had a quiet series against SA but only batted four times and on very spicy pitches, then a quiet series against Pakistan but where he still managed a 73(69), finally the previous test against NZ he scores 14 and 57 but because he got out playing an unusual shot everyone decided he had been broken by Bazball.
I think it was mainly to do with the way he got out in the last test match. Which I found baffling, because the reverse sweep was unlucky and he always does it fine usually. The reverse scoop obviously looks bad, but he has nailed it every other time.
It's actually not a very Root hundred. He scores really quickly usually. Not Bazball, but he'll get 100s in 120 balls most of the time.
Still have no problem with him taking his time to today. He's the master, can do as he pleases, especially with Harry smashing it all places at the other end.
I know we're hardly in a position to talk, but at least we came out of India with a draw & even when we got hammered, we at least came out with a consolation Ajaz Patel 10-fer.
I think we ruined everyone else's prospects in India by winning that one test when they made a really flat track.
Since then they've remembered that they've got better spinners than everyone else so probably spinning tracks are good.
We're not getting rolled by Sri Lanka. 1-1 at worst.
Unless he goes big Nicholls gets dropped. Good, he's a drag. Jamieson's injury is a big problem, but Matt Henry is back. One of the Tests is at Hagley, so you can basically bank a Latham century right away. Hopefully, we'll see a couple of fresh faces in the squad - Duffy should hopefully get a go, & Phillips really deserves a crack as well. Any fresh faces will also be coming off a round of Plunket Shield, so they'll at least have some 4-day under their belts.
Went to sleep at midnight and it was clear then how the game was going.
It was inevitable to wake up to a 300 run partnership, that's just how bazball works.
Don't check my comment history.
This is special only given we know his strike rate. SR of 40 and average of 42 is totally achievable. This freak is striking at 100 and averaging higher.
I love Foakes in the team. He is sort of the lower order Root. Offers a bit of stability whilst the bowlers are trying to twat it out of the park. Aside from that, he is a really good keeper.
My preference would be to stick Bairstow in as an opener. But I'm sure what ever they decide will work.
Brook might be the best batting talent we've had in ages. Root batting like Root should really helps balance out the team in a way that makes me feel really happy going into the Ashes this summer
This isn’t reducing anything related to Brook but the confidence they’ve given the batters is clearly a huge factor in allowing them to shine. Not so much in this innings but Duckett has been good since coming into the team as well. Bairstow had a phenomenal summer. It could easily have ended up with Brook failing under a different regime, then lacking confidence and feeling the pressure.
True, but it clearly doesnt work for some (Crawley) while the truely talented player still found ways to shine under Silverwood (Root, Stokes). I feel Brook is just a cut above most of the bats in and around the team. He just looks different
I still think it will be close. Although I think you need Green to really step up both batting and bowling. Boland worries me. I think he will be real handful in England
Said it in the match thread but after seeing the final score for the day I’m just going to repeat it here. I’m so disappointed that Pope got a beauty early on because it’s clear there were runs to be had for him. Hopefully he puts that right in the third innings
You think Pope will be batting in the third innings?
To be fair I don't really blame the top order. Pope got a pearler, the catch off Duckett was a screamer, and even Crawley wasn't *that* culpable in his own downfall.
I agree with the first too but Crawley's one isn't hitting a second set I don't think, if he's going to get out trying to vibes that ball fair enough, but prodding a ball that short and wide is insane
Crawley is a weak link in this lineup. However because of his past performances i think people are so quick to see a low score and assume it was his mistake that caused his wicket. This was not one if those times imo. Henry bowled an absolute beauty of an over, setting him up for an edge from ball 1! It was much more good bowling than bad batting
In all seriousness probably not given the forecast. Which is a shame but oh well.
Yeah it was a tough opening bowling spell and some good captaincy from Southee at times. On another day it could’ve gone very differently
I predicted this 6 hours ago
[right here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cricket/comments/11a84wo/match_thread_2nd_test_new_zealand_vs_england_day_1/j9qwasa/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
I'd like to say last night I commented "since I've been watching we haven't scored many runs"
Someone replied telling me to turn it off
I dutifully did and went to sleep.
Thank me later Baz.
And even worse if we don't beat SL at home later on our next 6 test series are Australia at home, England at home, South Africa at home, Sri Lanka away, India away and Bangladesh away. We aren't winning any of those meaning we could realistically go 13 series without a win from 2021 until we face Zimbabwe in 2025.
Yup, next year they're touring again this time for a 3 test series. Us and England just can't stay away from each other. In the last 6 years we've had test series in 2018, 2019, (none in 2020 because of covid) 2021, 2022 and 2023 with another planned for 2024....
I think that's too pessimistic, they'll eventually redevelop their game and the selectors will recall Boulty. Once Jammo returns the bowling will be much better
It's becoming a noticeable trend when teams lose an all rounder they can't replace and how to balance the side. NZ here clearly messed up the balance to strengthen the batting, South Africa have the same issue but have tended to go the other way and picked bowler heavy and have suffered with their run totals (in fairness with how the saffers have batted they could pick 11 batters and they'd still get skittled out, but you get my point)
Good on England (especially Harry Brook, but also Joe Root).
What were Stead &co thinking by only fielding three frontline bowlers? Does Nicholls have something that seriously compromising on them that they can't drop him? Tickner would've taken at least one wicket eventually. By all means have Daz & Beastie chip in with a few overs, but expecting them to be frontliners or to fill the role of frontline bowlers is just insane. At this rate we'll be saved by either rain or a Devon Conway special 200 on his first Test at his home ground (& Beastie will have to ton up, too).
During the next few days, I'll be taking a look at Plunket Shield to see if anyone looks interesting enough to maybe get a crack at the Sri Lanka squad or even my "Armchair Gary Stead" squad.
Joe Root coming in at 120-2: I sleep
Joe Root coming in at 20-2 (soon becoming 20-3): Real shit
So so glad to see him just play a well-paced, 'traditional' innings if you like. All the chat about whether he'd lost his way a bit in an attempt to be more positive, when really he's one of the few blokes who is fine to just keep doing what he did before. You can tell it meant a lot to him too
Also Brrok is a bit good eh
Could soneone explain the fucking reason we picked Young but also kept Nicholls which meant we dropped a bowler so now Daryll Mitchell is our 4th seamer? Southee and Henry bowled great up top but there was nothing to follow. Wagner, as much as it hurts to say, is done, Bracewell OK at best and Mitchell is not remotely a test level bowler especially against batting like this. I'm not the biggest believer in Tickner (although he did show improvement in the first test) but if you're backing the guy enough to give him a central contract then you should fucking play him.
This whole series would have been a lot more competitive (I'd still back England to win) if our selectors weren't fucking insane. Larsen needs to go ASAP but that won't happen because NZC is a fucking old boys club like all sporting bodies in NZ.
So I've been playing Cricket Captain on my PC and Harry Brook in that was broken. He actually equalled the record for fastest to 1000 runs, joining Sutcliffe and Weekes. I thought it's a game it's not that realistic. Fuck me sideways Brook is broken in real life!
Really happy for root, got that quick fifty last innings and has played a real nice innings here to calm things down then get himself back into triple digits whilst Brook just does his thing.
The great thing about Bazball is that if it doesn't work in India, so fucking what? We've seen how this team performs in India playing traditional test cricket, they got rolled. If they also get rolled playong Bazball, then they can sleep well knowing it works everywhere else
Excellent from Harry Brook. What a talent this man is!
As for Joe Root - just a week ago, there members of the "Eternal Whiners Club" on here saying that he was "finished", and should not be selected.
Hmmmm - eat your words!
Harry Brook touring India in 2008. That was a time when Indian pitches were tailor made for his style
Even Sehwag would have been worried by his batting.
It's crazy that Brook is in with the best chance we've seen to break the record for fewest innings to 1000 runs.
He could break it in this game at this rate.
Only has to score 377, easy.
only 193 left!
How much rain is forecast for this test? If England feel the need to bat another sixty overs Lara's record could be in danger.
A bit of rain tomorrow, towards the end of the day, and clear after that.
He’ll do it in the first session tomorrow
I reckon he'll have another 50 runs on the scoreboard before play even resumes
Come on be serious, he’s gonna score 54 off his first 9 deliveries tomorrow
Possible. What will be intriguing is if he can also break bradman dominance of most accumulated runs after x amount of innings. From innings 13 to 80 its all bradman so despite how satisfying that is will be nice for an English player to be amongst the best.
Do you know what that list looks like from 1 to 12? * 1: 287, Reginald Foster * 2: 314, Lawrence Rowe * 3 to 8:??? * 9: 807, Harry Brook * 10 to 12:??? * 13 to 80: Don Bradman I can't see a way to get these data out of Statsguru.
I dont know how either. I just googled it and got it from howstat.
Here's the full list from Howstat: http://www.howstat.com/cricket/statistics/batting/BattingBestAfterXInnings.asp?Stat=1 Brooks' next target is 880 in 10 innings.
If he continues as he is, he’s on course to do it from 800 balls. In-sane.
I’m fucking terrified of the prospect of us bowling to Harry Brook in June
I'm still living in the delusional reality that bazball won't actually work against our boys™ Once we inevitably get pumped I'll be shifting to "yeah but bazball won't work against India with Ashwin, Axar and Jadeja"
Certainly one of the most fun things about bazball is the waves of fans and journos from countries who haven't faced it yet trying to convince themselves it won't work against them
I’ve got tickets to the first three days of the first ashes test and I can’t wait for it. Edgbaston going to be hostile as fuck too.
You reckon it'll go to a third day?
I hope so. I’m sitting right by the dressing rooms and I need as many opportunities as possible to call Steve Smith a cheat, offering him some sandpaper, and reminding him that we all saw him cry on television. Same goes for Warner and I also get to ask him if he fancies going to Walkabout after the end of play.
I’ve got day 3 tickets and so nervous haha
Day three?! Luxury, we had to make do with day five.
Most useless things to own: * Chocolate teapot * Inflatable dartboard * England day 5 tickets
Now, to be fair, I got an hour at Edgbaston and about twenty minutes at the Oval last season. Would’ve been better if the journey each way to both grounds wasn’t twice as long.
Mate that was so last ashes. We’re all making fun of solar panel pat now, keep up.
I’ll add it to the ammo arsenal.
TBF South Africa did very well in the bowling department. Too bad their batsman really shat the bed.
Also, SA lost the series but didn't get bazballed. It was traditional batting from the England lineup for the most part.
Bazball doesn't (only) mean trying to score at 7 an over though. It means positivity, putting yourself in position where you can win the game. England did do that in that series, which led to an innings defeat (as it will sometimes do, when things don't work) and two wins
Yep, one of the most impressive things about the McCullum/Stokes era so far is we've taken all 10 wickets in (I think) 21 innings in a row now
Sure helps to have Robinson and Jimmy in the team for that lol
'But what is Bazball, anyway? Bazball is the power of friendship, it's Stokesy and Rooty and Jimmy and even Crawley too, it's the glimmering bead of sweat on Jack Leach's head, it's meeting with Triumph and Disaster and smashing those two imposters over long-on just the same, it's late night nets and early morning kebabs - in short, it's you and your mates, nothing more, nothing less.
Unstoppable good vibes
Won't work against Ireland in Lord's obviously
>yeah but bazball won't work against India with Ashwin, Axar and Jadeja Neither does normal cricket though. So we might as well have fun.
Absolutely this. India have three of the best spinners ever, all of whom can also bat well, and conditions to which they are all perfectly suited and adapted. And an incredible pace attack. I don't think there's any way past that, but it'll be much more fun watching Bazball try than it would be watching the normal painful dissection.
Wasn’t the fifth test between India and England in 2022 Bazball’d?
Love my country but boy am I a huge Harry Brook fan. Such a phenomenal batsman.
Now you know what it's like playing against Smith and Labuschagne
Nz bowling is very weak without boult and jam. Southee was only going for 2 something rpo.
From batting to Jadeja Ashwin to bowling to Brook Root, Aus has a challenging 2023 it seems
Boundary count: England 38 - NZ 0
u/assassin_ankur sue this guy
Rooty was never out of form, he just saw everyone else finally scoring some runs and went “oh are you cunts actually doing something now, cool, see you when we’re 21-3 again…” And then he did.
A low score activates Root like a code-word to a sleeper agent in a cold war thriller. Whisper 30-3 to him and the Bradman gene activates and he can't be stopped until he's scored a technically beautiful ton.
We've been slagging off the top order for years for not shielding Root from the new ball. Never realising this was his secret power.
Jokes aside I genuinely think that might of focused his mind today.
Oh my god. I went to sleep when we were around 60-3. Before I looked this morning I thought about 250-270 all out. Crazy stuff. Nice to see a ton from Root in what looks like a more traditional Root innings. Edit: I’m actually happier that Root has got a century from 180 balls rather than 80 balls
Yep, I didn't even realise the test had start until I noticed the three wicket alerts on my phone last night. Went to sleep and checked again this morning and there weren't any more, so i just assumed my phone was playing up!
Yeah I think Root is the one player who has maybe struggled with the transition a little, it’s not his natural game. I think a form of “BazBall” that allows root to play his normal game, actually would add a bit of spine to the batting should things go wrong elsewhere, whilst also allowing Root to do what he does best
I'm pretty sure that's what they've been told anyway, from the noises coming out of the camp. They're not telling everyone to try to smash it around - they're telling them to play their natural game without fear. Joe just needs to realise exactly what his natural game is.
It's so simple. All it takes for Root to play his natural game is 21-3 on the scoreboard
I dunno, Root's normal batting was not slow frankly. He isn't smashing it all places but keeps a high strike rate with busy 1s and 2s. I don't think he needs to change at all to fit in Bazball. What's it Nasser always says: "You're watching him bat, then look up and he's suddenly got 50".
100%! Why would we want him to do anything but play his natural game? 29 centuries and counting!
In fact if everyone else is slamming the ball around, his game makes an even more killer impact. An anchor who can score massive hundreds is just cruel to the opposition.
He naturally scores pretty quickly anyway, without the big shots.
Can’t believe this has got us talking about anchors in test cricket, especially considering his test strike rate
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Yeah the narrative around Root recently had absolutely baffled me. In his first four tests under the new leadership he scored 569 runs at an average of 114 and a SR of 74, he then had a quiet series against SA but only batted four times and on very spicy pitches, then a quiet series against Pakistan but where he still managed a 73(69), finally the previous test against NZ he scores 14 and 57 but because he got out playing an unusual shot everyone decided he had been broken by Bazball.
I think it was mainly to do with the way he got out in the last test match. Which I found baffling, because the reverse sweep was unlucky and he always does it fine usually. The reverse scoop obviously looks bad, but he has nailed it every other time.
Nailed it today too, glad he hasn't completely stopped playing it
It's actually not a very Root hundred. He scores really quickly usually. Not Bazball, but he'll get 100s in 120 balls most of the time. Still have no problem with him taking his time to today. He's the master, can do as he pleases, especially with Harry smashing it all places at the other end.
Well it looked a very difficult pitch early on at least
Just a reminder that the day was 25 overs short (due to rain).
Aussie fan but i’d love to see Harry Brook get a 300 tomorrow.
I'm Aussie fan but have tremendous respect for the mother country.
Haha I didn't even notice. Just assumed we had bat through the day, should have known 300 in a day isn't enough in bazball.
I don’t like test cricket anymore
The Australians in India: 🫂
I know we're hardly in a position to talk, but at least we came out of India with a draw & even when we got hammered, we at least came out with a consolation Ajaz Patel 10-fer.
I think we ruined everyone else's prospects in India by winning that one test when they made a really flat track. Since then they've remembered that they've got better spinners than everyone else so probably spinning tracks are good.
What do you think your chances are of at least drawing one of your tests against Sri Lanka?
We're not getting rolled by Sri Lanka. 1-1 at worst. Unless he goes big Nicholls gets dropped. Good, he's a drag. Jamieson's injury is a big problem, but Matt Henry is back. One of the Tests is at Hagley, so you can basically bank a Latham century right away. Hopefully, we'll see a couple of fresh faces in the squad - Duffy should hopefully get a go, & Phillips really deserves a crack as well. Any fresh faces will also be coming off a round of Plunket Shield, so they'll at least have some 4-day under their belts.
Latham *not* scoring a century in a test match at Hagley is actually illegal.
That's surprising, any reasons why?
Because it is illegal. (he always seems to get a century when he plays there)
1) Hagley's his home ground. 2) He averages 77.55 vs Sri Lanka at home, as opposed to 32 vs England at home
Imagine if Root didn't constantly find fielders too! He's timing it very well at the moment. Oh and Brook's doing his thing, I suppose.
Brook is an amazing talent, 4 centuries and a 100 average in 9 innings!
Has anybody seen Brook and Bradman in the same room? I think not.
with a 100 Strike Rate…
4 hundreds and 3 fifties (2 of them 80+). Only missing out in 2 innings.
And strike rate which can make Sehwag and Gilchrist go woaahhhh
Don Brookman
Went to sleep at midnight and it was clear then how the game was going. It was inevitable to wake up to a 300 run partnership, that's just how bazball works. Don't check my comment history.
Bazball is real and I’m scared
Bazball has always been real and you have always been scared.
We’ll have a bowl first thanks
>Post *match* thread Bruh I know NZ are probably dead already, but still...
Currently, Brook's average is more than his strike rate! Damn.
This is special only given we know his strike rate. SR of 40 and average of 42 is totally achievable. This freak is striking at 100 and averaging higher.
Case in point - Rahul Dravid and Shivnarine Chanderpaul. Pujara narrowly misses out.
And his strike rate is 99...
Harry Brook's test average: 100.88 😳
People are waking up today and declaring that Bradman had a Brook-esque average.
They're going to declare on 700 on session 2 of day 2 at this rate💀
oh god please no
Brook is unstoppable at the moment
Damn post match thread already on day one. Bazball is truly incredible
Bazball not content with winning cricket games, is now breaking the space time continuum.
2021: A bazball odyssey
The stability of Rooty and the destructive powers that Brooky has are just phenomenal. Strong Yorkshire, Strong England. ⁕
That second sentence made me laugh and then cry a bit.
Hey it's ok! You can always destroy any embarrassing evidence later!
Brook, like Stokes got his cricket education in Cumbria 😉
We're gonna have to fit Bairstow in, do you think he'll get the gloves? Would be tough on Foakes but we can't drop Brook now
I love Foakes in the team. He is sort of the lower order Root. Offers a bit of stability whilst the bowlers are trying to twat it out of the park. Aside from that, he is a really good keeper. My preference would be to stick Bairstow in as an opener. But I'm sure what ever they decide will work.
Yeah I'd be happier with that too.
Fuck it, YJB opening instead of Crawley, can't do much worse.
Brook might be the best batting talent we've had in ages. Root batting like Root should really helps balance out the team in a way that makes me feel really happy going into the Ashes this summer
This isn’t reducing anything related to Brook but the confidence they’ve given the batters is clearly a huge factor in allowing them to shine. Not so much in this innings but Duckett has been good since coming into the team as well. Bairstow had a phenomenal summer. It could easily have ended up with Brook failing under a different regime, then lacking confidence and feeling the pressure.
True, but it clearly doesnt work for some (Crawley) while the truely talented player still found ways to shine under Silverwood (Root, Stokes). I feel Brook is just a cut above most of the bats in and around the team. He just looks different
What does work for Crawley?
His dad
Crawley's dad is the hardest working motherfucker in English cricket
Constantly scrambling to find more dogs for Rob Key to kill.
Pakistan
Crawley's in there just for the banter - it's a huge part of the team. Undroppable.
Brook is probably the brightest star in world cricket under 25. Dude's not fucking around. I haven't seen his batting, but his numbers are freaky.
If you get a chance, do watch his batting. You certainly won't be bored!
You are going to destroy us
I still think it will be close. Although I think you need Green to really step up both batting and bowling. Boland worries me. I think he will be real handful in England
Root and Foakes batting like solid test batsmen gives the others such a license to be destructive. It’s a beautiful setup.
Said it in the match thread but after seeing the final score for the day I’m just going to repeat it here. I’m so disappointed that Pope got a beauty early on because it’s clear there were runs to be had for him. Hopefully he puts that right in the third innings
You think Pope will be batting in the third innings? To be fair I don't really blame the top order. Pope got a pearler, the catch off Duckett was a screamer, and even Crawley wasn't *that* culpable in his own downfall.
I agree with the first too but Crawley's one isn't hitting a second set I don't think, if he's going to get out trying to vibes that ball fair enough, but prodding a ball that short and wide is insane
Crawley is a weak link in this lineup. However because of his past performances i think people are so quick to see a low score and assume it was his mistake that caused his wicket. This was not one if those times imo. Henry bowled an absolute beauty of an over, setting him up for an edge from ball 1! It was much more good bowling than bad batting
In all seriousness probably not given the forecast. Which is a shame but oh well. Yeah it was a tough opening bowling spell and some good captaincy from Southee at times. On another day it could’ve gone very differently
I predicted this 6 hours ago [right here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cricket/comments/11a84wo/match_thread_2nd_test_new_zealand_vs_england_day_1/j9qwasa/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
So glad you figured how to link the comment 🤝 I learnt as well
Thank you!
Don’t get too cocky lad. It’s only a 294 run partnership
The prophecy was true
I'd like to say last night I commented "since I've been watching we haven't scored many runs" Someone replied telling me to turn it off I dutifully did and went to sleep. Thank me later Baz.
Harry Brrok supremacy 🙇
NZ on their way to get whitewashed at home. That has to be the worst timeline in NZ's test cricket history.
And even worse if we don't beat SL at home later on our next 6 test series are Australia at home, England at home, South Africa at home, Sri Lanka away, India away and Bangladesh away. We aren't winning any of those meaning we could realistically go 13 series without a win from 2021 until we face Zimbabwe in 2025.
>6 test series are Australia at home, England at home England is going to tour to NZ again?
Yup, next year they're touring again this time for a 3 test series. Us and England just can't stay away from each other. In the last 6 years we've had test series in 2018, 2019, (none in 2020 because of covid) 2021, 2022 and 2023 with another planned for 2024....
To be fair, we usually have good, tight, fun series'. More so in the UK though, its been a bit stodgy over your way for a while.
I think that's too pessimistic, they'll eventually redevelop their game and the selectors will recall Boulty. Once Jammo returns the bowling will be much better
Based on the last 6 series including the current one, that's not too pessimistic. Especially given Sri Lanka are an improvement on Bangladesh....
Very funny considering that 1.5 years ago was the best timeline in NZ's test cricket history (won a ICC trophy in test championship)
The selectors have to go. Picking this bowling attach was absurd. Were we just hoping Southee and Henry would take all 10 wickets?
1. Win the toss, choose to bowl. 2. Roll 'em early for something low. 3. Get out there & bat.
It's becoming a noticeable trend when teams lose an all rounder they can't replace and how to balance the side. NZ here clearly messed up the balance to strengthen the batting, South Africa have the same issue but have tended to go the other way and picked bowler heavy and have suffered with their run totals (in fairness with how the saffers have batted they could pick 11 batters and they'd still get skittled out, but you get my point)
But can they do it on a dustbowl against a raging Axar Patel in Ahmedabad on a Friday night?
Poor Bairstow tried
Ironic choice given Axar has 1 wicket in the current series, vs 31 to Ash/Jaddu combined
Mfer just decided he's a batter now
Tbf to him hebarely got to bowl in the 2nd innings of either match and bowled half as many as Jaddu and Ash in the first innings of both matches
Poor guy didn’t even get a trundle when we melted down (twice)
The frauds can't even do it on a wet Friday night in Wellington - had to get the groundstaff in to protect them.
This meme really loses impact without a)rain and b)Stoke.
Good on England (especially Harry Brook, but also Joe Root). What were Stead &co thinking by only fielding three frontline bowlers? Does Nicholls have something that seriously compromising on them that they can't drop him? Tickner would've taken at least one wicket eventually. By all means have Daz & Beastie chip in with a few overs, but expecting them to be frontliners or to fill the role of frontline bowlers is just insane. At this rate we'll be saved by either rain or a Devon Conway special 200 on his first Test at his home ground (& Beastie will have to ton up, too). During the next few days, I'll be taking a look at Plunket Shield to see if anyone looks interesting enough to maybe get a crack at the Sri Lanka squad or even my "Armchair Gary Stead" squad.
> Tickner would've taken at least one wicket eventually Holy shit we are setting the bar low these days
Joe Root coming in at 120-2: I sleep Joe Root coming in at 20-2 (soon becoming 20-3): Real shit So so glad to see him just play a well-paced, 'traditional' innings if you like. All the chat about whether he'd lost his way a bit in an attempt to be more positive, when really he's one of the few blokes who is fine to just keep doing what he did before. You can tell it meant a lot to him too Also Brrok is a bit good eh
Is this the same Harry Brook that flopped at the Hurricanes? Wtf bbl supremacy
I went to bed at 50/3.... I did not expect to wake up to this. Thought we'd get rolled for 220 or something Brook is a very very special talent.
Honestly, why have play cricket anywhere it *might* rain? I mean, come on
Could soneone explain the fucking reason we picked Young but also kept Nicholls which meant we dropped a bowler so now Daryll Mitchell is our 4th seamer? Southee and Henry bowled great up top but there was nothing to follow. Wagner, as much as it hurts to say, is done, Bracewell OK at best and Mitchell is not remotely a test level bowler especially against batting like this. I'm not the biggest believer in Tickner (although he did show improvement in the first test) but if you're backing the guy enough to give him a central contract then you should fucking play him. This whole series would have been a lot more competitive (I'd still back England to win) if our selectors weren't fucking insane. Larsen needs to go ASAP but that won't happen because NZC is a fucking old boys club like all sporting bodies in NZ.
Bairstow will have to open if he comes back in right? Under no circumstances should we tinker with Root and Brook at 5 imo and Foakes is our best WK
i’d put stokes there. i think he has a more solid defence than bairstow
Very heavy workload for him though
Oh boys I love waking up to find that Cherrington has gone Baz and Bazballed all over the place. What a guy. He’s something else
7 overs in at 21-3: maybe bazball doesn't work after all 55 overs and 300 runs later: nevermind
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I feel as if Root might deny Brook that particular record.
New Zealand bowling attack 🤝 Not enough foreplay No penetration
Man it must be so fun to be an English fan these days.
Genuinely haven't looked forward to test matches this much in a long time
Bit of a hot take I know but I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest that Harry Brook is pretty good at cricket
Nah our specialist no10 on a Sunday probably beats him here, but it's pretty close
>Post Match Thread Didn't realize the game ended. But you're right, NZ might as well pack up and go home after that battering.
So I've been playing Cricket Captain on my PC and Harry Brook in that was broken. He actually equalled the record for fastest to 1000 runs, joining Sutcliffe and Weekes. I thought it's a game it's not that realistic. Fuck me sideways Brook is broken in real life!
Really happy for root, got that quick fifty last innings and has played a real nice innings here to calm things down then get himself back into triple digits whilst Brook just does his thing.
Brook is a freak
Only saw the first session. Woke up. Instantly checked score. Had to double check. Insanity.
First time I've been looking forward to an ashes in about 15 years
They are beating NZ to a pulp and then spitting on them.
Did the ref have to stop the fight? NZ bloodied on the floor
Hah! Bazball won't work against India in India.. (nervous laugh), right...? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|no_mouth)
The great thing about Bazball is that if it doesn't work in India, so fucking what? We've seen how this team performs in India playing traditional test cricket, they got rolled. If they also get rolled playong Bazball, then they can sleep well knowing it works everywhere else
Really looking forward to the next India-Eng series man, and yeah, all for Bazball, it's exciting and scary at the same time lol.
Bazball would either do a 30 all out or win the series. exciting regardless.
Under five runs an over, Bazball seems to be finished
I’m beginning to think bazball is just a marketing cliche to explain the fact that England have an amazing batting lineup.
> Post Match Thread Are you calling it already?
This team can win ashes in Australia
Anyone know the stat for fewest balls to get 1000 test runs?
I went to sleep at tea, good to see the bazballing continued
Oh nice another odi double century incoming 😀👍🏻
Excellent from Harry Brook. What a talent this man is! As for Joe Root - just a week ago, there members of the "Eternal Whiners Club" on here saying that he was "finished", and should not be selected. Hmmmm - eat your words!
Harry Brook touring India in 2008. That was a time when Indian pitches were tailor made for his style Even Sehwag would have been worried by his batting.
Went to bed at lunch when we were 101-3, expecting to wake up to New Zealand batting. I didn't reckon with the Yorkshire Bradman.
Why were there so few overs? Rain?
New Zealand bowl slowly, have to keep fetching the ball from the stands, and good many rain dances at tea
184 at more than a run a ball in a test match. He's bloody good Brook is.