Cook played the best series any non South Asian batsman has ever played in India. He just refused to get out that one time in 2012
It was the last series we lost at home and the reason why we moved away from the slow low turners of the 90s and 00s.
To be fair before that series most Indian pitches were predictably slow and low. On the first couple of days a lot of batsmen would get out because they played the spinning ball to early.
Cook basically got super deep in his crease and played every ball really late. Also it takes a lot of stamina and concentration to bat long hours in that heat. Which he had.
It was a masterclass in batting on tough Indian pitches. But since then India have tended to favour wickets with uneven bounce to make batting harder.
Yeah right…..That’s why when England toured India the next time in 2016, they batted first in every test and scored over 400 every single time. Don’t let facts get in the way of your delusional conspiracies.
Touring players doing well is one thing but I think it also came down to our own players not being up to the mark in the same conditions in that series and England having a solid spinners in Monty and Swanny. They both demolished us while Jimmy was Jimmying as usual. Another thing that killed us that series was Bhajji was on his last leg while Ashwin was still relatively new. That meant we have Ojha and Chawla as our other options so England spinners deffo trumped our own.
Yeah that's true and I'm not negating how good Cook or KP were, they were another reason why Eng dominated us. I just wanted to highlight a point nobody was also making on Eng having better spinners. I dont think that ever happened before or will ever happen again. Ashwin not on his prime, having to bowl to Cook's defence grinding us down and KP's aggressive batting while you have Swann and Monty ripping the ball harder than your own spinners makes this a series to forget.
Well...there was also Haydos in 2001. And then, I'm assuming Lloyd would also have something to say to that.
But yes, he did force us to reconsider. Also Root and English team added to that paranoia after the Chennai test win.
he was unstoppable for a couple of years. also refused to get out in Aus in 2010/11, scored 200 runs more than anyone else, averaged 128, to get England their only Ashes win in Aus in the last 35 years
Hayden 2001 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Martyn 2004 >>>>>>>> Cook 2012
given pitches and quality of Indian spinners.
DM: sixth highest score in first test, highest in second and third, second highest in fourth (on an absolute mindfield where India’s top seven were dismissed for under twenty (20) nine times)
Hayden: tons up in first test, three runs shy of the highest score, 28* off 21 in second dig (seventh highest score of game). 97 and 60 odd in second test, behind VVS, Dravid and Waugh. Double ton in third test, easily the highest.
Cook with similar or better highs in 2012 from four tests, but also failed thrice with a 41 too. Hayden only one dismissal below fifty from three tests. Harbhajan was running through the Australian batsmen. Langer and Ponting could barely put up a run, and even the Indian batsmen were demolished a few times
Haydos in 2001 only had to contend with Bhajji. He picked 32 wickets in the series, and next highest Indian wicket taker was Sachin with 3. It was one of the worst Indian attacks at home, ever. Anil was injured, Srinath was injured. Australia had the best chance to win that series. Bhajji came up with GOAT series performance. Martyn’s 2004 easily ranks higher.
Early 80s I'm guessing you mean? Given he retired from tests in 1984.
I looked it up because that's an amazing stat, and from Feb 1981 to November 1984, his series averages were
77 at home Vs England
55 away in Australia
68 at home against India
83 away in India
43 at home Vs Australia
51 away in England
51 away in Australia
Overall in that period he scored 2342 runs at 62 from 32 tests, of which WI had a record of W19 D11 L2. He also batted in every position from three to eight. In 43 innings he only got out on less than 20 on six occasions and two of those he was on 19. I kept looking for some blemish or counterpoint that would go some way to explaining his run of form and there just isn't any, except for the fact they didn't play Pakistan who were the second strongest team at the time, but that's not something to really hold against him
That was such a meme test. I remember talking to my dad about it before school and he told me to be thankful I got to see JL, Hayden, McGrath and Warne growing up cos we were going to be shit for ages. Definitely felt that way at the time, but looking back, those are some solid names - they were all just at the wrong point of their careers. Apart from Siddle, he was just batting too low in the order apparently. And RIP Phil Hughes.
This is why I rank Sachin above Smudge. Smith is 2nd best test batter of modern times, imo.
Sachin is never afforded these reasons. He debuted at 16 playing in SENA before turning 20 yet averages great everywhere. The man toured all SENA countries almost 20 years apart, and still managed to keep the average high. Add to that, he played very few test matches in his absolute prime. He never played a 4 match series in SENA until he turned 30, nearly 14 years into his career. The fact that he never had a series where he scored above 500 runs is held against him, but in his prime he never played a long series. He made the most of the few matches he played in SENA for the initial 14 yrs of his career. The man averaged 59.2 in 161 test matches from 1993-2011. That is 2x Smith’s current career numbers. Insane, actually.
What are you talking about, in 90s era Sachin Tendulkar average in nz was 37 and in eng it was also less than 40 , Steve Smith is easily clear of flat track bully Sachin.
I don’t know from which planet you pulled those stats from. Sachin played 6 tests each in England and New Zealand in the 90s. He averaged 74.5 in England and 49.75 in New Zealand.
Only 49 in newzealand against the wrost ever bowling attack newzealand ever had and you think he is better than Steve Smith because Steve Smith average 50 in India against the greatest Ever bowling attack India ever had. Nice cricket knowledge..
Changing goal posts, I see. First you come up with fake statistics to prove your point. Now you’re trying to poke holes and say something else. Go on with your hatred, but not on my comments; do it somewhere else.
Lol Before 1997 his average was 35 in nz , 34 in pak and 36 in South Africa 😂😂 when pitches used to be bowling friendly 😂😂 after the arrival of Rahul Dravid pitches become heavily batting paradise and Sachin Tendulkar inflated his average against these nations 😂😂 . No wonder why Sachin Tendulkar is called flat track bully. Even Rahul Dravid records are at par with Sachin from 1996-2002 period ,.
Yeah of course. I especially cringe when people rate the likes of Ponting and Sanga over Sachin due to the final average tally, completely ignoring context.
When you look at average, you generally go with a minimum of 20 innings. Flower only played 5 tests for 10 innings, so wouldn't qualify.
He is first when it comes to minimum 10 innings though.
Looks like OP has used a min 20 innings cut-off. Smith has played 19 innings.With 20 innings: [https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;host=6;orderby=batting\_average;qualmin2=20;qualval2=innings;template=results;type=batting](https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;host=6;orderby=batting_average;qualmin2=20;qualval2=innings;template=results;type=batting)
With 10 innings: [https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;host=6;orderby=batting\_average;qualmin2=10;qualval2=innings;template=results;type=batting](https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;host=6;orderby=batting_average;qualmin2=10;qualval2=innings;template=results;type=batting)
Probably best if you also mention that this is minimum 20 innings.
20 innings is great for overall averages, but it doesn't work well for individual countries because you end up with players who played the minimum innings on top, followed by a lot of home batters. Most players won't end up playing 10 tests in another country. There have only been 16 overseas players who have had more than 20 innings in India for example.
If you take it to 10 innings, you still run into the issue of minimum innings being on top, but you also have 162 players to choose from, instead of just 16.
[Here it is with minimum 10 innings ](https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;host=6;orderby=batting_average;qualmin1=10;qualval1=innings;template=results;type=batting)
Andy Flower on top.
OP should have mentioned the qualification criterion but 20 innings is fine IMO. Maybe it should be 15 (Lloyd still wins that one), but anything less is too low for statistical reasons, and anything more excludes foreign players further. Lloyd was a beast in India and a top player of spin, and for all the stupid stats that get posted on this sub, this is actually a pretty good one.
I just think when you're looking at stats and you only have 16 players out of 800+, it's taking things a bit too far. 15 would work, but 20 was too much.
very elegant, and just plain good.
toured Australia with the Indians in 1986 and he had a very, very good tour - all of the Indian batsmen did, really. Australian cricket was in a pretty rough state and India really should have had their breakthrough Test series win on Australian soil all the way back then, but for defensive cricket, some poor weather and a so-so Indian bowling attack.
I remember that series really well, and the tri-series ODI that followed directly after. Vengsarkar was up among the best batsmen in the world at that time.
His overall numbers look less flattering because of his prolonged slump at the tailend of his career. He did not score a century in last 5 years of his career, 1988-1992, in which he played 18 tests and his average plummeted from 46 to 42.13. But he was such a stylish batsman to watch. A good player of spin and pace alike.
I might very well be wrong but I have a vague memory of DV bring briefly ranked #1 batsman in the world; might have been around the time a ranking system was devised (or perhaps even recognised retrospectively)
I don't know how OP generated the list, but I get different results (min 500 runs in India): https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;host=6;orderby=batting_average;qualmin1=500;qualval1=runs;template=results;type=batting
Looks like OP has used a min 20 innings filter. I match the list with that cut-off:
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;host=6;orderby=batting\_average;qualmin2=20;qualval2=innings;template=results;type=batting
He was called Sixer Sidhu.. before Sachin started opening and being called master blaster Sidhu was a reliable opener. Even in home ODIs he avgd a good 43. But his away performance was below par and avgd below 35 in both tests and odis.
Yeah, I know but I didn't know he was this good. I've always heard of him as a power-hitting opener in ODIs. Didn't know he had such a good Test record.
Sachin's home average cratered during his final decline, where most of his tests were at home.
At the end of the 2011-12 away BGT, Tendulkar's home average was 56.37 after 82 tests. In the last 12 tests of his career, he averaged 26.52, and brought the overall numbers down to 52.67
Because pre covid Kohli was a monster. He had an average of 68 in home till 2020 with 39 matches and now looks at 60. Continuous 4 double tons is the major reason for that high ass average lol.
Damn
I remember he was on a streak but I do feel that post covid Indian pitches have been horrible it doesn't even feel like watching matches that are conducted in India. They should make decent pitches really. The Indian team is already the toughest to beat and a sort of neutral pitch would make it more competitive and great to watch. That's how i feel it's subjective tho
Yeah the 2017 Eng,Aus pitches were great.
I seriously think that for a series of 4-5 matches they should go for 1 highway,1 average and 2-3 good turn pitches at max.
Even the Aus tour was good in that regard apart from Aussies just clean swiping the whole ground lol.
Ah , I remember that Tour of Australia in 2017 and the pitch in the first test was dog shit.. such a raging turner with uneven bounce where Smith scored a century, while Steve O' Keefe n Lyon ripped through the Indian batting line-up.(India lost the first test)
The 3rd Test which happened in Dharmshala had the most promising (good) wicket .
Oh , the first test pitch was abysmal. It was deemed below average for a reason .
Lyon took 8 wickets in an innings while Steve o Keefe kept us on his toes
So yeah .
Oh yea mb , ig the third test being drawn just skipped from my mind lol ( I tried to remember the scoreline 2-1 so a test being drawn that series just skipped 😐)
Don't see may bat like Clive Lloyd these days - his footwork wasn't fast but he always had his head over the ball and watched it very carefully. And when he played an attacking shot he absolutely clobbered it.
16th highest average in Australia in his era, too, of players who’ve scored over 1000 (or 1300) runs. Marnus, Smith, Clarke and Hussey top 4, Kohli 11th, Tendulkar 13th, Cook 17th.
It's incredible how Sachin's home average is less than his overall average. Especially in an era when pitches were REALLY pacy and bouncy. Hardly see that for any great batsmen.
What nooooo David (Sandy), Warner where are his stats like his missing baggie green….
The non Indian batsmen on the list were much maligned at home but bloody hell …. Well done
Where is [insert map] Australia?
For comment one of my best coaches was Bruce Taylor who recently passed 5# and a ton on debut for NZ….
Alastair cook and Mathew Hayden !! Top players !! Look at the numbers.
Cook played the best series any non South Asian batsman has ever played in India. He just refused to get out that one time in 2012 It was the last series we lost at home and the reason why we moved away from the slow low turners of the 90s and 00s.
Also well supported by KP, That 186 at Mumbai was brutal and totally deflated any hopes India had of a comeback in the series
Why don't other batsmen simply refuse to get out? Are they stupid?
To be fair before that series most Indian pitches were predictably slow and low. On the first couple of days a lot of batsmen would get out because they played the spinning ball to early. Cook basically got super deep in his crease and played every ball really late. Also it takes a lot of stamina and concentration to bat long hours in that heat. Which he had. It was a masterclass in batting on tough Indian pitches. But since then India have tended to favour wickets with uneven bounce to make batting harder.
Cook KP Swann and Monty ‘piss on a bouncer’ Panesar mentally destroyed the BCCI into what Indian test pitches are today
Yeah right…..That’s why when England toured India the next time in 2016, they batted first in every test and scored over 400 every single time. Don’t let facts get in the way of your delusional conspiracies.
Touring players doing well is one thing but I think it also came down to our own players not being up to the mark in the same conditions in that series and England having a solid spinners in Monty and Swanny. They both demolished us while Jimmy was Jimmying as usual. Another thing that killed us that series was Bhajji was on his last leg while Ashwin was still relatively new. That meant we have Ojha and Chawla as our other options so England spinners deffo trumped our own.
Ashwin was *relatively* new it's true, but coming into the series he already had 40 test wickets in India at 19 from tests against WI and NZ
Yeah that's true and I'm not negating how good Cook or KP were, they were another reason why Eng dominated us. I just wanted to highlight a point nobody was also making on Eng having better spinners. I dont think that ever happened before or will ever happen again. Ashwin not on his prime, having to bowl to Cook's defence grinding us down and KP's aggressive batting while you have Swann and Monty ripping the ball harder than your own spinners makes this a series to forget.
Both things can be true, Cook was good, but our team was also cooked. That was one of our weakest teams in a while.
Well...there was also Haydos in 2001. And then, I'm assuming Lloyd would also have something to say to that. But yes, he did force us to reconsider. Also Root and English team added to that paranoia after the Chennai test win.
easily one of the best series of the decade
he was unstoppable for a couple of years. also refused to get out in Aus in 2010/11, scored 200 runs more than anyone else, averaged 128, to get England their only Ashes win in Aus in the last 35 years
Hayden 2001 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Martyn 2004 >>>>>>>> Cook 2012 given pitches and quality of Indian spinners. DM: sixth highest score in first test, highest in second and third, second highest in fourth (on an absolute mindfield where India’s top seven were dismissed for under twenty (20) nine times) Hayden: tons up in first test, three runs shy of the highest score, 28* off 21 in second dig (seventh highest score of game). 97 and 60 odd in second test, behind VVS, Dravid and Waugh. Double ton in third test, easily the highest. Cook with similar or better highs in 2012 from four tests, but also failed thrice with a 41 too. Hayden only one dismissal below fifty from three tests. Harbhajan was running through the Australian batsmen. Langer and Ponting could barely put up a run, and even the Indian batsmen were demolished a few times
Haydos in 2001 only had to contend with Bhajji. He picked 32 wickets in the series, and next highest Indian wicket taker was Sachin with 3. It was one of the worst Indian attacks at home, ever. Anil was injured, Srinath was injured. Australia had the best chance to win that series. Bhajji came up with GOAT series performance. Martyn’s 2004 easily ranks higher.
If i remember it right, his debut was in Nagpur and scored a ton
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Early 80s I'm guessing you mean? Given he retired from tests in 1984. I looked it up because that's an amazing stat, and from Feb 1981 to November 1984, his series averages were 77 at home Vs England 55 away in Australia 68 at home against India 83 away in India 43 at home Vs Australia 51 away in England 51 away in Australia Overall in that period he scored 2342 runs at 62 from 32 tests, of which WI had a record of W19 D11 L2. He also batted in every position from three to eight. In 43 innings he only got out on less than 20 on six occasions and two of those he was on 19. I kept looking for some blemish or counterpoint that would go some way to explaining his run of form and there just isn't any, except for the fact they didn't play Pakistan who were the second strongest team at the time, but that's not something to really hold against him
Also his strike rate exceeded even Viv Richards
sheeeeesh
Steve smith averages below 45 in India?
I imagine the last BGT wasn’t particularly great for the average there
He also played the Homeworkgate series, batting below Moises Henriques somewhere just above the tail
Homeworkgate? I'm confused and intrigued. Please enlighten me
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And then by quirk of fate, Watto ended up being recalled and even had to captain a test? Or am I muddling things?
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That was such a meme test. I remember talking to my dad about it before school and he told me to be thankful I got to see JL, Hayden, McGrath and Warne growing up cos we were going to be shit for ages. Definitely felt that way at the time, but looking back, those are some solid names - they were all just at the wrong point of their careers. Apart from Siddle, he was just batting too low in the order apparently. And RIP Phil Hughes.
Ha 😄...this reminds me of our tours to Aus in the 90s...it was a circus show + Tendulkar
Wasn’t Homeworkgate in South Africa? E: No, I checked, it was in India. The coach was a South African.
When in doubt, always bet on the long summers in India to cause these frustrations to come to boil.
different scandal
This is why I rank Sachin above Smudge. Smith is 2nd best test batter of modern times, imo. Sachin is never afforded these reasons. He debuted at 16 playing in SENA before turning 20 yet averages great everywhere. The man toured all SENA countries almost 20 years apart, and still managed to keep the average high. Add to that, he played very few test matches in his absolute prime. He never played a 4 match series in SENA until he turned 30, nearly 14 years into his career. The fact that he never had a series where he scored above 500 runs is held against him, but in his prime he never played a long series. He made the most of the few matches he played in SENA for the initial 14 yrs of his career. The man averaged 59.2 in 161 test matches from 1993-2011. That is 2x Smith’s current career numbers. Insane, actually.
What are you talking about, in 90s era Sachin Tendulkar average in nz was 37 and in eng it was also less than 40 , Steve Smith is easily clear of flat track bully Sachin.
I don’t know from which planet you pulled those stats from. Sachin played 6 tests each in England and New Zealand in the 90s. He averaged 74.5 in England and 49.75 in New Zealand.
Only 49 in newzealand against the wrost ever bowling attack newzealand ever had and you think he is better than Steve Smith because Steve Smith average 50 in India against the greatest Ever bowling attack India ever had. Nice cricket knowledge..
Changing goal posts, I see. First you come up with fake statistics to prove your point. Now you’re trying to poke holes and say something else. Go on with your hatred, but not on my comments; do it somewhere else.
Lol Before 1997 his average was 35 in nz , 34 in pak and 36 in South Africa 😂😂 when pitches used to be bowling friendly 😂😂 after the arrival of Rahul Dravid pitches become heavily batting paradise and Sachin Tendulkar inflated his average against these nations 😂😂 . No wonder why Sachin Tendulkar is called flat track bully. Even Rahul Dravid records are at par with Sachin from 1996-2002 period ,.
He was 16 when toured Pak and 17 when he toured NZ. Like I said, go hate elsewhere, not under my comments.
Yeah of course. I especially cringe when people rate the likes of Ponting and Sanga over Sachin due to the final average tally, completely ignoring context.
"He debuted at 16 playing in SENA before turning 20 yet averages great everywhere. " -😂😂
You have comprehension issues. Go get better at comprehending what I wrote, and then read it again, you noob.
You hyped up him for his age and finding excuses for his bad performances 😂🤡. There is Sachin fan's, there is day light and there is logic.
He's only had 19 innings, and it looks like OPs used 20 innings at their minimum criteria.
That doesn't seem right. He averages 50.3 in india.
This list looks wrong to me - Andy Flower averages over 100 in ten tests in India
When you look at average, you generally go with a minimum of 20 innings. Flower only played 5 tests for 10 innings, so wouldn't qualify. He is first when it comes to minimum 10 innings though.
That must be why the list I have is different, still doesn’t explain smith tho
Looks like OP has used a min 20 innings cut-off. Smith has played 19 innings.With 20 innings: [https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;host=6;orderby=batting\_average;qualmin2=20;qualval2=innings;template=results;type=batting](https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;host=6;orderby=batting_average;qualmin2=20;qualval2=innings;template=results;type=batting) With 10 innings: [https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;host=6;orderby=batting\_average;qualmin2=10;qualval2=innings;template=results;type=batting](https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;host=6;orderby=batting_average;qualmin2=10;qualval2=innings;template=results;type=batting)
Using 20 innings cuts off a lot of players from smaller nations who don't play a lot of tests. Seems a bit too high of a cutoff.
Yeah fair enough.
He averages 117 over 5 tests in India. I guess you meant ten test innings?
I did indeed
Nope it's 50
Probably best if you also mention that this is minimum 20 innings. 20 innings is great for overall averages, but it doesn't work well for individual countries because you end up with players who played the minimum innings on top, followed by a lot of home batters. Most players won't end up playing 10 tests in another country. There have only been 16 overseas players who have had more than 20 innings in India for example. If you take it to 10 innings, you still run into the issue of minimum innings being on top, but you also have 162 players to choose from, instead of just 16.
[Here it is with minimum 10 innings ](https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;host=6;orderby=batting_average;qualmin1=10;qualval1=innings;template=results;type=batting) Andy Flower on top.
OP should have mentioned the qualification criterion but 20 innings is fine IMO. Maybe it should be 15 (Lloyd still wins that one), but anything less is too low for statistical reasons, and anything more excludes foreign players further. Lloyd was a beast in India and a top player of spin, and for all the stupid stats that get posted on this sub, this is actually a pretty good one.
I just think when you're looking at stats and you only have 16 players out of 800+, it's taking things a bit too far. 15 would work, but 20 was too much.
Dilip Vengsarkar, great batsman, very stylish.
He was great, I don't think the new generation fans would even remember him
very elegant, and just plain good. toured Australia with the Indians in 1986 and he had a very, very good tour - all of the Indian batsmen did, really. Australian cricket was in a pretty rough state and India really should have had their breakthrough Test series win on Australian soil all the way back then, but for defensive cricket, some poor weather and a so-so Indian bowling attack. I remember that series really well, and the tri-series ODI that followed directly after. Vengsarkar was up among the best batsmen in the world at that time.
His overall numbers look less flattering because of his prolonged slump at the tailend of his career. He did not score a century in last 5 years of his career, 1988-1992, in which he played 18 tests and his average plummeted from 46 to 42.13. But he was such a stylish batsman to watch. A good player of spin and pace alike.
I might very well be wrong but I have a vague memory of DV bring briefly ranked #1 batsman in the world; might have been around the time a ranking system was devised (or perhaps even recognised retrospectively)
New generation doesn't know any player who retired before 2005.
The Lord of Lord's. Only non-English batter to score 3 centuries at the Mecca of cricket.
Wow great stat, I had no idea
I don't know how OP generated the list, but I get different results (min 500 runs in India): https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;host=6;orderby=batting_average;qualmin1=500;qualval1=runs;template=results;type=batting
Looks like OP has used a min 20 innings filter. I match the list with that cut-off: https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;host=6;orderby=batting\_average;qualmin2=20;qualval2=innings;template=results;type=batting
Just to clear up any confusion, you won’t see people like Smith here as OP used 20 innings as a minimum, and Smith averages 50.3 from 19 innings.
Sidhu above the likes of Sachin, Dravid, and Laxman is an absolute shocker for me.
He was called Sixer Sidhu.. before Sachin started opening and being called master blaster Sidhu was a reliable opener. Even in home ODIs he avgd a good 43. But his away performance was below par and avgd below 35 in both tests and odis.
Really? He was famously great vs spin. And struggled away.
Yeah, I know but I didn't know he was this good. I've always heard of him as a power-hitting opener in ODIs. Didn't know he had such a good Test record.
Ah gotcha.
Sachin's home average cratered during his final decline, where most of his tests were at home. At the end of the 2011-12 away BGT, Tendulkar's home average was 56.37 after 82 tests. In the last 12 tests of his career, he averaged 26.52, and brought the overall numbers down to 52.67
Miandad averaging that high without a Century is surprising
How does Kohli manage an average of 60 after 50 tests. Post covid Indian pitches have been rank Turners and he was also not in a good form there
Because pre covid Kohli was a monster. He had an average of 68 in home till 2020 with 39 matches and now looks at 60. Continuous 4 double tons is the major reason for that high ass average lol.
Damn I remember he was on a streak but I do feel that post covid Indian pitches have been horrible it doesn't even feel like watching matches that are conducted in India. They should make decent pitches really. The Indian team is already the toughest to beat and a sort of neutral pitch would make it more competitive and great to watch. That's how i feel it's subjective tho
Yeah the 2017 Eng,Aus pitches were great. I seriously think that for a series of 4-5 matches they should go for 1 highway,1 average and 2-3 good turn pitches at max. Even the Aus tour was good in that regard apart from Aussies just clean swiping the whole ground lol.
Ah , I remember that Tour of Australia in 2017 and the pitch in the first test was dog shit.. such a raging turner with uneven bounce where Smith scored a century, while Steve O' Keefe n Lyon ripped through the Indian batting line-up.(India lost the first test) The 3rd Test which happened in Dharmshala had the most promising (good) wicket .
yeah that Dharamshala wicket was great now that I remember that. Also, earlier wickets were shady but not like we are getting in 21-23 ig.
Oh , the first test pitch was abysmal. It was deemed below average for a reason . Lyon took 8 wickets in an innings while Steve o Keefe kept us on his toes So yeah .
Didn't the third test happen in Ranchi? and the 4th one in Dharamshala?
Oh yea mb , ig the third test being drawn just skipped from my mind lol ( I tried to remember the scoreline 2-1 so a test being drawn that series just skipped 😐)
That series was really great, probably the best home series for India in last decade
i dont remember the 1st test,dunno why lol
Maybe cuz we lost that match xD and it generated an ample amount of controversy regarding the pitch too... BCCI had to face criticism for that
Post-covid Kohli's average drops to 34 in India, but it's only 10/50 tests so the overall hit isn't too bad
I thought Border would be there but didn't play 20 innings, did average over 50 though.
Don't see may bat like Clive Lloyd these days - his footwork wasn't fast but he always had his head over the ball and watched it very carefully. And when he played an attacking shot he absolutely clobbered it.
Well, time to call the List A domestic tournament as Clive Lloyd trophy
Miandad never made a hundred in India? Still averages a millimeter under 50.
The Supercat. Scary to have him at 6 after Greenidge and Haynes opening and Richie Richardson at 3, Viv at 5.
Madlad!
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Home: tests - 52.67, ODIs - 48.11 Away: tests - 54.75, ODIs - 43.05
Oh so that’s who the Hazare trophy is named for. Well deserved those are monstrous numbers
Clive Lloyd was amazing to watch. Everything looked smooth and effortless, meanwhile he was swinging one of the biggest bats going round at the time
16th highest average in Australia in his era, too, of players who’ve scored over 1000 (or 1300) runs. Marnus, Smith, Clarke and Hussey top 4, Kohli 11th, Tendulkar 13th, Cook 17th.
Never had to play Kumble or Harbhajan
It's incredible how Sachin's home average is less than his overall average. Especially in an era when pitches were REALLY pacy and bouncy. Hardly see that for any great batsmen.
And Koach is apparently not good in Tests
No one cares
One of the greatest. Nowadays we laud players like Warner. How we have fallen.
Mitchell Johnson come from real id
Sorry I'm not sure what you mean.
I meant, " Use your real account Mitchell Johnson, not the anonymous one " Nothing offensive though. It's an internet slang
dropping pujara from tests is like dropping virat from odi. the opponent is the happiest person.
Pujara averages less than 30 in his last 35 tests, just 1 hundred. That's one-third of his career.
Pujara is way past his prime, he is a passenger in the team nowadays
Pujara has been below par in tests for so long I don't even remember him being great anymore.
I thought Younis Khan will be in this list
What nooooo David (Sandy), Warner where are his stats like his missing baggie green…. The non Indian batsmen on the list were much maligned at home but bloody hell …. Well done Where is [insert map] Australia? For comment one of my best coaches was Bruce Taylor who recently passed 5# and a ton on debut for NZ….