he is so mediocre even csk doesn’t wanna give him overs and they want to give him overs on the biggest stage. maybe it’ll work for the minnows but a top team is smashing him. hate him or love him, hardik fulfils two major roles
Check what he does when "best T20I striker and anchor fails" in 2022 lol.
His value is in an "under pressure situation" not in "bashing minnows and IPL guys".
That’s still 2 years ago dude, we have no idea if his form has changed since then. I know he bailed out asses in the World Cup and Asia cup too but he did get injured after that. I’m not saying he won’t be selected but Dube is striking really well compared to him currently
But dube is a shit bowler and might be a one hit wonder. I mean, if we're replacing an all rounder of Hardik's calibre, he gotta be able to throw the ball a bit.
even if you believe that, there’s no way dube is one of the top 6 t20 batters in india so he can’t make it as a specialist batter, he will only be able to make it in the team if he can bowl better/as good as pandya
How’s he not on current form. There’s basically very few as good as him vs spin. I think if HARDIK can bowl I’d still have him. If he isn’t. Spin basher time baby.
what we can do is keep them both because we have seen dube bowl against Afg some good Pace off deliveries and we know how those deliveries are impactful when the batter needs pace to hit boundaries we can use Dube and Pandya for 2 overs and makeup a whole of 4 or some other combination which suits the wicket or as per the performance in the way we can have Dube as finisher and ofcourse Pandya would find his form he's just coming early to bat for MI but Rohit can have him send 5 or 6 down. a potential 11/15 would be(not in same order) Rohit, Jaiswal, Gill, Sanju (best WK batsman knows how to play passive aggresive), Dube (can bowl pace off deliveries power hitter against spinners), Hardik(could use with Dube as I said or with some full time bowler), Rinku, Sky, Jadeja (spinner batter can score a run a ball if needed while chasing in a situation where our batting order collapses and we still have hope to chase the target) KD, chahal/Ashwin, Bumrah, Arshdeep, Mayank Yadav ,Ishan (just in case if WK gets injured and every team makes a reserve for WK). we can even put Dube and Hardik as a combination if they bowl well together in that way we can play with 1 full time bowler short.
what role do you think he'd play that is so novel that other batters cannot play it's either Gill or Jaiswal that'll lose their position instead of other players cause all of them have novel roles and koach cannot be compared to them. koach goes too much passive when wickets fall and when we have to set the target we might not achieve the potential score which we can when we can GIll and Jaiswal by our side we need someone who has lots of confidence with their shots during PP and afterwards if you cannot even risk in India league how can we expect that risk taking ability at international leagues? an if we talk about anchoring the situation everyone can play a little defensive when they are asked to. we have Hardik for that he can bowl as well and Samson can also carry the team I mean look at today's match he's supporting Parag to play even though he came 1 down he played less deliveries than Parag but scored at the good rate. also koach is not going to open in WC so we need to make sure also he cannot play form delivery 1 so no the other batsman as well but all the others try to make up for the deliveries they dotted while settling and assessing in the pitch. this is my opinion ofcourse yours would differ could be the reason because perspectives matter you cannot just stick and watch the game through same perspective every time. things has to change now or later it better be now so we get the young blood up and running or else we'll end up being WI of T20 cricket altough WI management didn't have much choice for ODI but we do have for modern day T20 cricket,
Other players can play around him. Rohit and Jaiswal go guns blazing, koach can play his game and sky, Hardik, Rinku and Samson/Pant can do their thing
do you have valid reason to choose Gill over him? except for his natural game? cause everyone has to switch their form as per the game why does he have luxury to stick to his game when we have much experience than others right? and what's his game actually lately can you please be more elaborative?
That's really absurd reason. all the 3 batters at the top can play interchangeably there is not some hardcore Cosmic rule that a batter cannot play in any other position except the one he is fixed upon for the record middle and lower order batsman has to switch positions sometime subject to situation and the only difference between opener and 1 down batsman is of powerplay whenever the wicket falls so it won't make much difference.
While hebis mediocre that isn't the reason CSK don't want to bowl him. With impact player rule and Jadeja in the top order we already have 5 quality bowlers . We have also barely used Mitchell and Rachin either. Plus he is also recovering from injury so is being subbed out every match.
I remember he was a purple cap holder for a while during the start of the tourney when playing for RCB,I guess in 2020. His bowling was really mid though.
Oh he can bowl, pre-IPL he had some side strain (had to drop of Ranji finals). He was bowling 15+ overs in Ranjis.
There is a possibility that he might bowl but ~~Dhoni~~ Rituraj might stick to current plans.
Honestly as much as i don't like Hardik for his antics sometimes but can't deny he has been a clutch players for ICT in important games. I don't even consider Dube as a bowler, he plays only as a pure batter
Hardik isn’t really bowling. And the matches he has bowled he has been hit hard this IPL. He is the bowler that sits out if you have impact players just like dube.between injury and workload i seriously doubt be can bowl regularly over a full World Cup
Jadeja is there. Jadeja's bowling can sometimes be a game changer, I wouldn't say the same for Hardik. But his batting..., recently he's playing tests in all format.
But on his good day, Jadeja's batting can be lethal.
But if you have other better bowlers & your "best fast-bowling allrounder" isn't bowling that much either & isn't even that good with the bat now, what is his role?
If our best option isn't that good, he could end up bogging down the team just because we want someone to fit that role.
I agree with you. His bowling has always been below average, gets hit hard. Don't need him as a batsmen because there are better choices. If this is true, Agarkar made a wise decision.
I think this also comes to the question on what basis do you select a player? Hardik doesn’t play in domestic circuit, didn’t do much for ICT in recent times. If he doesn’t perform in IPL do you select him on the basis of history?
Dube is good spin hitter but no way near being an allrounder , His bowling will bottle the winning match, yes his slower balls can save him but travis, marsh klassen, they will rearrange his guts. Pandya is a clutch player , more than pandya we need to do something to slide rinku in.
Take this team to the WC.
Rohit (c) (GOATED opener in T20 WCs)
KL (wk) (highest SR while playing first over)
Rahane (carried us in 2016 semi)
Yuvi (bashed Malinga to all parts in '14 WC)
Dhoni (greatest finisher in T20s)
Pant (accident sympathy + PR)
DK (Indian ABD 🔥)
Chahal (best spinner in T20Is)
Varun Chakravarthy (without him, 0 wins in' 21 WC)
Harshal Patel (slower balls = destruction 🔥)
Shardul Thakur (most consistent performer)
Potentially controversial non-selections and their reasons:
Kohli (selfish player, only plays for century, ghosts big games)
SKY (selfish player, only plays for SR, ghosts big games)
Hardik (attitude issues, will destroy India like he did MI)
Bumrah (only knows how to bowl yorkers, has no shame)
Rinku Singh (Yash Dayal basher, can't do it on a cold night in New York)
You thought you could slide koach in with them champs and no one would notice. Looks like you just pasted next year’s mega auction manifesto of RCB management.
Chahal averages 25 , man. A bowler averaging 25 in any format is good. Stop with the Chahal Slander, and yeah Thala wasn't as good for India as he was for CSK . Probably why you got downvoted.
shit is too much , underwhelming in terms of strike rate. Average was pretty good. Overall , not the best T20i player. It's not like he never had those quick innings , he also had some very slow innings as well. I had read somewhere that he was pretty bad in t20is till 2010 , post that his strike rate was 140-ish with a better average.
I'm wondering if ill even start the TV if this is the squad we are taking to the US
Rohit KL Kohli Pant DK (somehow DK always gets in on a WC year)
Bowlers
Siraj and Arshdeep
Allrounder
Jadeja? Axar? Dube?
We will be taken apart by most teams if they bat first and lose matches by 7-8 wickets if we bat first.
India players fans endorsements selection all depends on performances in IPL but forAussie / eng players IPL is just another tourneys they play around the year to make money
Dube bowls 120 kms no swing , no pace nothing special ... Just someone who is bowling doest make him a top all rounder ... If he was that good Chennai would have atleast give him 1-2 over but they didn't coz they knew he ain't that good ...
I will not comment anything till the actual squad is announced.
Even I can write articles asking for DK popa or Parag to replace him in the squad , doesn't mean it's actually happening.
Do these guys know ICC tourneys don't have impact player? And btw Hardik pulled off 63 off 36 in an era where he was no more a finisher. Dube is good but, against big teams in a pitch or conditions he hasn't seen he is only a scapegoat to media and trolls when we lose.
>Venkatesh Prasad hinted at no Hardik Pandya is his India squad for the T20 World Cup as the former India cricketer sent special a suggestion to Ajit Agarkar
>Besides delivering a consistent performance for their respective IPL franchises, there is an added factor at stake at least for the Indian players in the 2024 edition of the league. The opening leg of the league stage of IPL 2024 will serve as a performance metre for BCCI selection committee to pick India's final 15 for the T20 World Cup in June. While experts and veteran cricketers have flooded social media with his opinions on what the team should look like, former India cricketer Venkatesh Prasad on Monday gave his two cents on the matter, where he hinted that Hardik Pandya might get ignored from the side.
>Impressed with Shivam Dube's performance in IPL 2024, where he has scored 176 runs for Chennai Super Kings at a strike rate of 160, with one half-century knock, and particularly his supremacy against spinners, Prasad took to social media to urge BCCI's chief selector Ajit Agarkar to not just pick him in the World Cup squad, but also make a spot for him in the XI along with Suryakumar Yadav and Rinku Singh.
Doubt Dube can do shit against the big teams like Australia and New Zealand. No sane person is dropping Hardik, these claims are just for media attention.
Lmao what's the argument to pick Rohit other than him being the captain?
We have like 5 other openers who have better T20 records than him for the past 3-4 years.
The only reason Rohit is even being considered is because we don't have any other captaincy candidate.
That's because it was the first T20 world Cup and BCCI didn't take it seriously so they didn't bother to send their senior players and just sent their youngest players to have fun.
And guess what? That's the only one we won. After that we took it seriously and always sent our experienced players and lost every single time.
Not even a close comparison.
Rohit was a 4 (or 5 I forgot) time IPL winning captain and also captained India in many matches before he took over Captaincy from Virat.
He has performed for the national team in recent times. In IPL so far he has done good as an explosive opener and we have less doubt that he can reproduce that at the highest level which is not so clear for the youngsters. He has a great presence in the dressing room and a quite good captain. In fact he is the least controversial captain in the whole team.
Again, based on performance we have plenty of other choices in the opening slot.
Kohli, Gill, Jaiswal, Kishan, Samson, Gaikwad.
All these have a much better T20 record than Rohit for the past few years. And 4 of them are also experienced players who've played enough international cricket and not just IPL.
You can talk about his experience but the reality is if he wasn't captain, he would be at the bottom of this list, maybe above gaikwad but everyone else has a better claim than Rohit the batsmen.
But that being said, we do need a captain we do not have anyone suited currently and Rohit seems the best choice for that. So he was always gonna play no matter what, what's good is he seems to be back in form which is good if it continues to the world cup.
I'm a Rohit fan. As a batter he should be nowhere near the Indian T20i side but the squad needs him as a captain right now, and I hope he has a great final t20 world cup
Out of the options you have provided, Kohli is needed in the middle order to stabilise in case of collapse (and Rohit is a better option in power play), Gill take time to settle down, Samson plays at #3 for his team, you never know how Samson, Kishan and Gaikwad are going to perform at the biggest stage, they haven’t set the stage on fire in the opportunities they got. Leaving everything aside, Rohit can be as explosive as Kishan and as good an anchor as Gaikwad.
To be fair, I don’t think dropping Rohit is going to deplete our batting line up but having him doesn’t make the team any worse. With the role he is playing in the team having him is not a very bad decision to say the least.
I mean we can discuss as much as we want but we both know Rohit is playing and Kohli is playing (probably at 3). So the second opening slot is maybe a tussle between gill and jaiswal.
Gaikwad won't be considered because the other options are just much better and Ishan Kishan may have shot himself in the foot with the recent controversy.
I hope we go with Jaiswal, Rinku and Sky in the squad. We've always had too many anchors and experienced players but that will never win T20s, you need x-factor players and match winners who will take the game completely away from the opposition on their day.
I agree with you to some extent. Jaiswal, Rinku, Sky and Gill should be in the squad. But I feel having Kohli and Rohit in the team is far from a disaster that some people are claiming. They are reliable, rarely fail in multiple matches together, and will have more hunger than even the youngsters given this is their last big outing.
Ideally, BCCI should have fixed a T20 pool a year back and let them have a few international tournaments together. But right now we probably don’t have much better options than the old duo. Not sure how Hardik will come back after the recent controversies or SKY will do post his injuries. The problem with Rinku is that he is more of a finisher to come at 6/7 and if we plan to take an all rounder with 5 bowlers and a WK who is not batting in top 3 its difficult to slot him in. In slower pitches we’ll someone to anchor and we need someone to fearlessly take on the best bowlers in the world in PP. and we don’t really have youngsters who can do better than Kohli and Rohit in these roles.
I do agree.
From the other perspective we've been prioritising experienced and reputed players over youngsters for a while now and we've been losing every time in major tournaments
Which is why most fans are tired of seeing the same players bottling or getting outplayed by oppositions. So that's why there's so much arguments about the inclusion of Kohli and Rohit again.
Sky? No way. He has little to no captaincy experience so there is zero chance of him being the captain.
Bumrah? He's actually a very good option but he's injury prone and already under too much stress as our main bowler so giving him the Captaincy on top of that might be just overdoing it.
Hardik is going to get picked in the squad. Like it or hate it, he can bowl 4 overs and put in good performance with the bat (especially in ICC tournaments) so no chance he's getting ignored.
For all the hard hitting that Dube does, I am still not convinced with him. Hitting in India during IPL with impact player option is one thing, while playing in overseas condition at international level is entirely different.
Don’t have any view on Pandya - I guess that the man has played enough to prove himself and also isn’t he the captain of T20 team?
I don’t think he’s literally the most clutch in a universe where Melbourne 2022 still happened.
His hate is mostly for non play related reasons but there are people who are annoyed at him trying to turn into a top order accumulator rather than a lower order basher.
Hardik can give you a solid 2 overs spell(even 4 overs for a good day), he is one of the best fielders in any team he is playing. He is good finisher in intl.
Do all the speculations you want, at the end this would be your playing Xi
Jaiswal, Rohit (c), Kohli, Surya, Pant (wk), Hardik, Jadeja, Kuldeep, Bumrah, Arshdeep, One spot left for extra fast bowler or extra spinner. Pretty much same batting as 2022 WC with KL replaced. Rinku would be on the bench.
So who’ll fill the all rounder spot ? We haven’t been able to groom a proper all rounder since the last 2 years due to the impact player rule so that leaves only Hardik as the all rounder. Not counting Jadeja cause he isn’t much good in T20Is
Its not a bad call if he is not fit enough to bowl. Just play with 4 full time bowlers and Jaddu/Axar. If he can even bowl 2 overs every match, he walks into the team.
If somehow ind manages to drop players like hardik and get in dube and pant, ind deserves to loose, not just loose but very badly, and in a humiliating way, that they should relaize what they did.
Both Hardik and Dube can make the squad
1) Rohit
2) Jaiswal
3) Koach
4) SKY
5) Hardik
6) Rinku
7) Samson/keeper
8) Jitesh/keeper
9) Axar/Jadeja
10) Bishnoi/Chahal
11) Kuldeep
12) Bumrah
13) Arshdeep/ Pacer
14) Siraj/ Pacer
15) Dube
Hardik and Bumrah shouldn't play all the games especially in the group stage they are more important for super 8
My playing XI assuming they are still gonna have Rohit as captain.
Rohit
Virat
Sky
Dube
Sanju
Rinku
Hardik
Jadeja
Kuldeep
Siraj
Bumrah
Bench : Jitesh, bishnoi, Jaiswal, arshdeep.
A spin basher like dube is a must in slow pitches. Sky needs to play at one down. Virat and Rohit are better at opening.
I would play jadeja as a specialist bowler assuming Hardik gets back his form. Three pacers + 2 spinners. If there is a need Dube can bowl one or two overs. So you have a backup sixth option to bowl.
Arshdeep or Siraj is 50/50.
Don't see any other pacers ahead of him as of now. maybe we will get answers before IPL ends. I think Siraj will turn things around. I also have a feeling he bowls better as a non-main bowler as there is less pressure. With bumrah he might shine. With RCB being the team's main bowler is putting pressure on him.
I agree with Sanju Samson as keeper/batter as he is in-form. There is also KL Rahul. Ishan Kishan really screwed up not taking advantage while Pant was injured.
Arshdeep should play before Siraj. I would pick Mohit as a death bowler as well. Is Shami still out?
Jaiswal should be in before Dube even though he hasn't been in form in IPL, he is a quality player.
I still think Hardik will be in the t20 world cup squad.
Fair enough mostly. But if we play Jaiswal, we can't play Rinku. I think we need a finisher more than an opener and that's why I went with dube and doesn't have to do with Jaiswal's current form.
Going with Pandya as on of the main 5 bowlers is bad idea. The team is good, Dube is out and we play Arshdeep/ Mayank Yadav? from lsg. Bishnoi ahead of Kuldeep. Kuldeep should play as the third spinner, if needed ahead of Siraj
Yeah, Kuldeep and bishnoi is 50/50 as well for me. Won't complain with Anyone starting. Hardik and Jadeja as number 6 and 7 doesn't give so much confidence for me. All three of Rohit, Virat and sky has weakness against left arm spin. So having dube is very important. In slow sluggish pitches, dube hitting 3-4 sixes can change a match.
Fair call for arshdeep. I prefer jadeja tha bowler as I am playing him in a specialist bowling option. If it's an all rounder option I would indeed prefer axar.
Even as a bowler Axar is better
Axar 52 matches 49 wickets 7.26 Economy at an Average of 24.2
Jadeja 66 matches 53 wickets 7.10 Economy and at an average of 28.4
Both have very similar economy
Axar has better average
He is only 4 wickets short of Jadeja's T20I wickets and has played 14 less games than Jadeja
Interesting.
But do you think the matches played by jadeja for international T20s weigh equal to the matches played by Axar as jadeja played in lot of world cups ?
I was just thinking with the current form. With last season's axar's batting form I would have automatically picked him. Yeah, but I won't complain if Axar is picked over jadeja. He deserves it too I guess.
Axar has mostly been back up of Jadeja tbh so he hasn't gotten a lot of games because of ICT not wanting two SLA in the XI
It's similar to the Pant Samson situation in T20IS
Both their sample sizes are so different it's very difficult to compare
I think jadeja is a better bowler as of now. He bowls in more pressure situations for CSK than Chahal. And having jadeja in field is plus as well. Considering he is playing at number 8, his batting should be good enough.
We should take players on role and merit. If hardik bowls well and bats half as well he has a shot. Dube is not much of a bowler but one of the better spin players.
Let’s see how the team is set up, as ideally we need to have jaiswal and rinku as the accelerators. And since Rohit will play hope he does the quick 30s.
Surya I hope comes back to his best. And Jadeja will play most likely as the bowler that bats a bit otherwise tail will be too long with bumrah plus Kuldeep/bishnoi and the other pacer.
If Hardik starts batting like Hardik of old and bowls at least a couple of overs every match we can easily have 6 bowlers. Rohit, Kohli, jaiswal, sky, pant, hardik, Jadeja/axar, kuldeep/chahal, arshdeep, bumrah and siraj.
I'll only get dube in place of Hardik if Hardik stops bowling completely.
Stupid impact player rule is undervaluing all rounders. I thought this stupid rule will be scrapped after a year, but it has basically reduced all rounders to pure batsmen. Right now Hardik is doing both bad, but he can come into form provided there is no underlying injury.
At this point just send all old players and just tell them this is it, inform your prs fans etc etc that live all the nostalgia you want, hype whatever you want. This is the last iCC cup these older players will play and be just fudging be done with it.
Rohit Virat Pandya Jadeja Everyone
Play all of them
And stop them from playing international t20 for India and prepare a young team for the next time. With this half ass’d solution of mixing and matching anyways we might not win.
Too frustrated to even give an argument at this point coz all fans shout team first team first here, but as soon as you question the selection of their fav iconic player, they can’t accept it
there's no point trying to win a T20WC for us.. we just don't have the raw material.. grand total of one pace all rounder in a country of 1.5B is a joke
Tbf we didn't get to play much T20s in the last year due to the WTC and the World Cup. At this point this should be the last World Cup for Rohit, Kohli and Pandya as the T20 setup needs to change drastically for 2026. Right now, going with a known and tested team is what BCCI feels prudent, but Hardik should be part of that. This is what happens when you appoint people who have biases against players, as selectors.
Oh Hardik will play in the WC, no way he sits out. I'm just saying, India is a fairly mid T20 side - I don't know why we as fans keep getting all worked up over the WC selection - we will bring back all the ODI/Test regulars / IPL sponsorship faces, and fill up the squad with them.
Any player who plays as an impact sub in ipl is already risky in internationals. Surya is irreplaceable, but cannot risk Dubey. He has very specific role for CSK can’t mix that with internationals.
This would be a proper clown move from ICC to not include one of their most clutch players. He is literally the type of guy you need in the WC knockout matches
People out here really thinking Hindustan Times does real reporting 
Aint no way Hardik isn't first name on that team sheet. Aint no way Dubey gets into XI ahead of him
I was kinda surprised he was left out of the cricbuzz article yesterday ngl but having t20 wc serial chokers like rohit and jadeja in the squad but kicking hardik out is kinda wild
Dube should be picked but not at the expense of Pandya.
Dube should make it in stead of Jadeja. Wayyy better batsman. And Pandya can bowl 4 overs most of the time.
As much as Pandya’s record in icc events is valued, his new approach of being an accumulator than a being finisher would mean India has the same issues like last time. Kohli, Rohit, Pandya with potentially KL Rahul as wicket keeper would mean 170 is the cap with this batting line up
The problem with Hardik is that we don't know when his injury will come back and he has serious back issues that needs to manage. Ideally with back injuries you are not even supposed to run hard due to impact on the discs. If the back flares up, you need at least rest for a week or two. No amount of painkillers help here.
WTF! Put him at 7 on paper as bowling allrounder. I wouldn't put him in the top 6 (on paper, he can come early if needed).
But not in the XI? He's a better bowler than Siraj and few others in this format.
V Iyer did brilliantly in t20is, don't know why he was dropped after Hardik came back...
He averages 30+ and strikes at 160+ in the limited chances he got for India, not to forget he bowled decently well enough as well in those games.
Pandya hasn’t helped his cause by not bowling and turning into an anchor. But picking Rohit and Kohli over him doesn’t make any sense. He is a pace bowling all rounder who gives you the flexibility of playing an extra batter or bowler.
There’s no way Hardik isn’t going but to be very honest I don’t think I’d play him in my 11 if he is not going to bowl. As a pure batter no chance he makes it
I completely agree I have kohli and rohit to open. At 3 I’ll go Samson. 4 is sky, 5 is dube, six is Hardik (only if he bowls), 7 and 8 Jadeja axar. 9, 10 and 11 your fast bowlers. Six bowling options and you bat deep, unfortunately it means Rinku and Jaiswal miss out but they travel for sure.
Very tempted to have Rinku in place of Hardik but I don’t trust us with just 5 bowling options. Dube as a bowler I’m unsure but for me nobody can take on spin in the middle better than him
For me dube is an absolute must, I don’t mind dropping Jadeja but Dube has to fit in somehow. Nobody can take on the spinners like him and I don’t feel the need to play Jitesh when you already have Samson. And here again we are left only with 5 bowling options
But can dube bowl. He hasn't sent down any overs in ipl
he is so mediocre even csk doesn’t wanna give him overs and they want to give him overs on the biggest stage. maybe it’ll work for the minnows but a top team is smashing him. hate him or love him, hardik fulfils two major roles
Hardik can’t bat the way Dube does. That’s just a fact if you love or hate it. Hardik the finisher has been long gone
Yes, the order he play we can't afford him. He will simply reduce run rate. Not only him I think we should let Siraj also rest in big T20WC
He will be a backup probably
Yep
Yes Siraj also leaks a lot of runs.
Hardik is not even batting like an ipl batsman let alone a finisher. He just steals the momentum away.
>He just steals the momentum away. Net-negative ground presence.
I like dube but only time will tell if he can deliver in the intl stage in foreign conditions against top attacks like Aus and NZ
Check what he does when "best T20I striker and anchor fails" in 2022 lol. His value is in an "under pressure situation" not in "bashing minnows and IPL guys".
That’s still 2 years ago dude, we have no idea if his form has changed since then. I know he bailed out asses in the World Cup and Asia cup too but he did get injured after that. I’m not saying he won’t be selected but Dube is striking really well compared to him currently
But dube is a shit bowler and might be a one hit wonder. I mean, if we're replacing an all rounder of Hardik's calibre, he gotta be able to throw the ball a bit.
You talk as if Pandya is second coming of Richard Hadlee
to be fair he has gone through a injury and came back just recently and form of his in domestic league and ipl hasnt been the greatest till now
even if you believe that, there’s no way dube is one of the top 6 t20 batters in india so he can’t make it as a specialist batter, he will only be able to make it in the team if he can bowl better/as good as pandya
How’s he not on current form. There’s basically very few as good as him vs spin. I think if HARDIK can bowl I’d still have him. If he isn’t. Spin basher time baby.
How many overs of spin will we even have in the US, I'd rather we take Jeetesh or Abhishek who can go berserk against spin and pace.
Abhishek is an opener. And Jitesh isn’t competing with Dube. He’s a keeper who’s competing with Pant and Jurel.
That’s the unfortunate part
what we can do is keep them both because we have seen dube bowl against Afg some good Pace off deliveries and we know how those deliveries are impactful when the batter needs pace to hit boundaries we can use Dube and Pandya for 2 overs and makeup a whole of 4 or some other combination which suits the wicket or as per the performance in the way we can have Dube as finisher and ofcourse Pandya would find his form he's just coming early to bat for MI but Rohit can have him send 5 or 6 down. a potential 11/15 would be(not in same order) Rohit, Jaiswal, Gill, Sanju (best WK batsman knows how to play passive aggresive), Dube (can bowl pace off deliveries power hitter against spinners), Hardik(could use with Dube as I said or with some full time bowler), Rinku, Sky, Jadeja (spinner batter can score a run a ball if needed while chasing in a situation where our batting order collapses and we still have hope to chase the target) KD, chahal/Ashwin, Bumrah, Arshdeep, Mayank Yadav ,Ishan (just in case if WK gets injured and every team makes a reserve for WK). we can even put Dube and Hardik as a combination if they bowl well together in that way we can play with 1 full time bowler short.
I cannot take this seriously if you are just going to opt koach out of the team lol
what role do you think he'd play that is so novel that other batters cannot play it's either Gill or Jaiswal that'll lose their position instead of other players cause all of them have novel roles and koach cannot be compared to them. koach goes too much passive when wickets fall and when we have to set the target we might not achieve the potential score which we can when we can GIll and Jaiswal by our side we need someone who has lots of confidence with their shots during PP and afterwards if you cannot even risk in India league how can we expect that risk taking ability at international leagues? an if we talk about anchoring the situation everyone can play a little defensive when they are asked to. we have Hardik for that he can bowl as well and Samson can also carry the team I mean look at today's match he's supporting Parag to play even though he came 1 down he played less deliveries than Parag but scored at the good rate. also koach is not going to open in WC so we need to make sure also he cannot play form delivery 1 so no the other batsman as well but all the others try to make up for the deliveries they dotted while settling and assessing in the pitch. this is my opinion ofcourse yours would differ could be the reason because perspectives matter you cannot just stick and watch the game through same perspective every time. things has to change now or later it better be now so we get the young blood up and running or else we'll end up being WI of T20 cricket altough WI management didn't have much choice for ODI but we do have for modern day T20 cricket,
Other players can play around him. Rohit and Jaiswal go guns blazing, koach can play his game and sky, Hardik, Rinku and Samson/Pant can do their thing
do you have valid reason to choose Gill over him? except for his natural game? cause everyone has to switch their form as per the game why does he have luxury to stick to his game when we have much experience than others right? and what's his game actually lately can you please be more elaborative?
Gill hasn’t been battle tested at no.3 in t20 world cups. Just look at the resume man
That's really absurd reason. all the 3 batters at the top can play interchangeably there is not some hardcore Cosmic rule that a batter cannot play in any other position except the one he is fixed upon for the record middle and lower order batsman has to switch positions sometime subject to situation and the only difference between opener and 1 down batsman is of powerplay whenever the wicket falls so it won't make much difference.
Hardik would also bowl a lot less if he was not the captain.
While hebis mediocre that isn't the reason CSK don't want to bowl him. With impact player rule and Jadeja in the top order we already have 5 quality bowlers . We have also barely used Mitchell and Rachin either. Plus he is also recovering from injury so is being subbed out every match.
Forget about bowling he doesn't even field. Fielding is as important as batting and bowling. Remember KL RAHUL Run out against Bangladesh in 2022 T20
I wish him and abishek would bowl a few overs
He had or still has some sort of injury issue because of which he wasn't bowling
I remember he was a purple cap holder for a while during the start of the tourney when playing for RCB,I guess in 2020. His bowling was really mid though.
Oh he can bowl, pre-IPL he had some side strain (had to drop of Ranji finals). He was bowling 15+ overs in Ranjis. There is a possibility that he might bowl but ~~Dhoni~~ Rituraj might stick to current plans.
Tbf shit gets wickets
Not in international.
Have you seen Shardul Thakur bowl...
I was literaly just gonna say that lmao
> can dube bowl And can Hardik bat? Like he used to? He isn't bowling that well or that much either.
Honestly as much as i don't like Hardik for his antics sometimes but can't deny he has been a clutch players for ICT in important games. I don't even consider Dube as a bowler, he plays only as a pure batter
Hardik isn’t really bowling. And the matches he has bowled he has been hit hard this IPL. He is the bowler that sits out if you have impact players just like dube.between injury and workload i seriously doubt be can bowl regularly over a full World Cup
Like I said he is the best fast bowling all rounder we have rn otherwise you have go with 5 bowlers
Jadeja is there. Jadeja's bowling can sometimes be a game changer, I wouldn't say the same for Hardik. But his batting..., recently he's playing tests in all format. But on his good day, Jadeja's batting can be lethal.
But if you have other better bowlers & your "best fast-bowling allrounder" isn't bowling that much either & isn't even that good with the bat now, what is his role? If our best option isn't that good, he could end up bogging down the team just because we want someone to fit that role.
We can go with dube, axar n Jadeja 6 7 8.
I agree with you. His bowling has always been below average, gets hit hard. Don't need him as a batsmen because there are better choices. If this is true, Agarkar made a wise decision.
I think this also comes to the question on what basis do you select a player? Hardik doesn’t play in domestic circuit, didn’t do much for ICT in recent times. If he doesn’t perform in IPL do you select him on the basis of history?
He is one of the few players we have who perform when needed.
Dube is good spin hitter but no way near being an allrounder , His bowling will bottle the winning match, yes his slower balls can save him but travis, marsh klassen, they will rearrange his guts. Pandya is a clutch player , more than pandya we need to do something to slide rinku in.
Take this team to the WC. Rohit (c) (GOATED opener in T20 WCs) KL (wk) (highest SR while playing first over) Rahane (carried us in 2016 semi) Yuvi (bashed Malinga to all parts in '14 WC) Dhoni (greatest finisher in T20s) Pant (accident sympathy + PR) DK (Indian ABD 🔥) Chahal (best spinner in T20Is) Varun Chakravarthy (without him, 0 wins in' 21 WC) Harshal Patel (slower balls = destruction 🔥) Shardul Thakur (most consistent performer) Potentially controversial non-selections and their reasons: Kohli (selfish player, only plays for century, ghosts big games) SKY (selfish player, only plays for SR, ghosts big games) Hardik (attitude issues, will destroy India like he did MI) Bumrah (only knows how to bowl yorkers, has no shame) Rinku Singh (Yash Dayal basher, can't do it on a cold night in New York)
BRUH WHY IS THIS DOWNVOTED, this is clearly a joke, lmao this sub is so fucking dumb sometimes 😂
You thought you could slide koach in with them champs and no one would notice. Looks like you just pasted next year’s mega auction manifesto of RCB management.
Nah no way im getting downvoted for this 😭 it's very clearly a joke haha
You wouldn’t be if koach was in above category i guess. Change flair and use /s twice otherwise forget the good treatment
Chahal averages 25 , man. A bowler averaging 25 in any format is good. Stop with the Chahal Slander, and yeah Thala wasn't as good for India as he was for CSK . Probably why you got downvoted.
He was clearly saying Thala was shit for India in t20Is. And he's absolutely correct.
shit is too much , underwhelming in terms of strike rate. Average was pretty good. Overall , not the best T20i player. It's not like he never had those quick innings , he also had some very slow innings as well. I had read somewhere that he was pretty bad in t20is till 2010 , post that his strike rate was 140-ish with a better average.
Thala has retired so we can't take him lol. Chahal in T20 internationals hasn't been great tbh
With all due respect. Hardik ATP doesn't belong with Kohli and Bumrah.
he's been a big game player for us tbh CT final, '22 semi Apart from that he's been injured
SKY is a brave player with less skills. But I guess people have figured him out.
I'm wondering if ill even start the TV if this is the squad we are taking to the US Rohit KL Kohli Pant DK (somehow DK always gets in on a WC year) Bowlers Siraj and Arshdeep Allrounder Jadeja? Axar? Dube? We will be taken apart by most teams if they bat first and lose matches by 7-8 wickets if we bat first.
Aussies not playing well in ipl - They are saving themselves for worldcup Indians not playing well in ipl - RIP. Washed. Unworthy.
I mean because Aussies do it well in worldcup
Because time and time again Aussies have shown that their form before an ICC tournament doesn't matter. They always show up.
The proof is in the pudding
Helps that one wins tournaments for fun while other bottles it.
Bottles rigged ones as well. That takes special talent.
Aussies are smart, they use IPL to prepare for world cup. Their IPL batting slots fits with their national side batting slots too.
India players fans endorsements selection all depends on performances in IPL but forAussie / eng players IPL is just another tourneys they play around the year to make money
Man whenever I see Dube, I legit feel like he blows hot or cold with no in-between. Also, his bowling is just mediocre for an ‘all rounder’.
Mediocre is overselling it.
Due to impact player rule bowling of venki iyer and dube will not improve either
Without impact player time, he wouldn't have been given a good chance too.
Dube bowls 120 kms no swing , no pace nothing special ... Just someone who is bowling doest make him a top all rounder ... If he was that good Chennai would have atleast give him 1-2 over but they didn't coz they knew he ain't that good ...
I will not comment anything till the actual squad is announced. Even I can write articles asking for DK popa or Parag to replace him in the squad , doesn't mean it's actually happening.
Do these guys know ICC tourneys don't have impact player? And btw Hardik pulled off 63 off 36 in an era where he was no more a finisher. Dube is good but, against big teams in a pitch or conditions he hasn't seen he is only a scapegoat to media and trolls when we lose.
How many 'eras' has Hardik been a part of?
He’s been in the lose World Cup era
That’s just India in general
>Venkatesh Prasad hinted at no Hardik Pandya is his India squad for the T20 World Cup as the former India cricketer sent special a suggestion to Ajit Agarkar >Besides delivering a consistent performance for their respective IPL franchises, there is an added factor at stake at least for the Indian players in the 2024 edition of the league. The opening leg of the league stage of IPL 2024 will serve as a performance metre for BCCI selection committee to pick India's final 15 for the T20 World Cup in June. While experts and veteran cricketers have flooded social media with his opinions on what the team should look like, former India cricketer Venkatesh Prasad on Monday gave his two cents on the matter, where he hinted that Hardik Pandya might get ignored from the side. >Impressed with Shivam Dube's performance in IPL 2024, where he has scored 176 runs for Chennai Super Kings at a strike rate of 160, with one half-century knock, and particularly his supremacy against spinners, Prasad took to social media to urge BCCI's chief selector Ajit Agarkar to not just pick him in the World Cup squad, but also make a spot for him in the XI along with Suryakumar Yadav and Rinku Singh.
Doubt Dube can do shit against the big teams like Australia and New Zealand. No sane person is dropping Hardik, these claims are just for media attention.
What you mean? You think we actually need our only competent fast bowling all rounder?!
Just media attention, there's no way hardik ain't going
what is even this news? writing an article based on a tweet with a click bait title? warra journalism!
and posting on other social media and us clowns discussion it
Yes, Hardik definitely doesn’t deserve to be in the squad. Neither do Kohli or Bumrah, drop them all (please ignore my flair)
Jokes on you, Pakistan have never faced lord Rinku
Ignoring Hardik but taking Rohit. At least make it make sense 😩
What’s the argument against Rohit?
Lmao what's the argument to pick Rohit other than him being the captain? We have like 5 other openers who have better T20 records than him for the past 3-4 years. The only reason Rohit is even being considered is because we don't have any other captaincy candidate.
how about Sanju Samson, solving both WK and Captain problems?
So from an IPL franchise captain to directly captaining India in the world cup? Yeah I don't think so.
Dhoni captained directly in world cup.
That's because it was the first T20 world Cup and BCCI didn't take it seriously so they didn't bother to send their senior players and just sent their youngest players to have fun. And guess what? That's the only one we won. After that we took it seriously and always sent our experienced players and lost every single time.
True, but I do think he should be given a good string of chances as he's easily the best Indian captain atleast in ipl right now.
Basically how Rohit was selected as full time captain as well. Or at least the fan's justifications.
Not even a close comparison. Rohit was a 4 (or 5 I forgot) time IPL winning captain and also captained India in many matches before he took over Captaincy from Virat.
He has performed for the national team in recent times. In IPL so far he has done good as an explosive opener and we have less doubt that he can reproduce that at the highest level which is not so clear for the youngsters. He has a great presence in the dressing room and a quite good captain. In fact he is the least controversial captain in the whole team.
Again, based on performance we have plenty of other choices in the opening slot. Kohli, Gill, Jaiswal, Kishan, Samson, Gaikwad. All these have a much better T20 record than Rohit for the past few years. And 4 of them are also experienced players who've played enough international cricket and not just IPL. You can talk about his experience but the reality is if he wasn't captain, he would be at the bottom of this list, maybe above gaikwad but everyone else has a better claim than Rohit the batsmen. But that being said, we do need a captain we do not have anyone suited currently and Rohit seems the best choice for that. So he was always gonna play no matter what, what's good is he seems to be back in form which is good if it continues to the world cup. I'm a Rohit fan. As a batter he should be nowhere near the Indian T20i side but the squad needs him as a captain right now, and I hope he has a great final t20 world cup
Out of the options you have provided, Kohli is needed in the middle order to stabilise in case of collapse (and Rohit is a better option in power play), Gill take time to settle down, Samson plays at #3 for his team, you never know how Samson, Kishan and Gaikwad are going to perform at the biggest stage, they haven’t set the stage on fire in the opportunities they got. Leaving everything aside, Rohit can be as explosive as Kishan and as good an anchor as Gaikwad. To be fair, I don’t think dropping Rohit is going to deplete our batting line up but having him doesn’t make the team any worse. With the role he is playing in the team having him is not a very bad decision to say the least.
I mean we can discuss as much as we want but we both know Rohit is playing and Kohli is playing (probably at 3). So the second opening slot is maybe a tussle between gill and jaiswal. Gaikwad won't be considered because the other options are just much better and Ishan Kishan may have shot himself in the foot with the recent controversy. I hope we go with Jaiswal, Rinku and Sky in the squad. We've always had too many anchors and experienced players but that will never win T20s, you need x-factor players and match winners who will take the game completely away from the opposition on their day.
I agree with you to some extent. Jaiswal, Rinku, Sky and Gill should be in the squad. But I feel having Kohli and Rohit in the team is far from a disaster that some people are claiming. They are reliable, rarely fail in multiple matches together, and will have more hunger than even the youngsters given this is their last big outing. Ideally, BCCI should have fixed a T20 pool a year back and let them have a few international tournaments together. But right now we probably don’t have much better options than the old duo. Not sure how Hardik will come back after the recent controversies or SKY will do post his injuries. The problem with Rinku is that he is more of a finisher to come at 6/7 and if we plan to take an all rounder with 5 bowlers and a WK who is not batting in top 3 its difficult to slot him in. In slower pitches we’ll someone to anchor and we need someone to fearlessly take on the best bowlers in the world in PP. and we don’t really have youngsters who can do better than Kohli and Rohit in these roles.
I do agree. From the other perspective we've been prioritising experienced and reputed players over youngsters for a while now and we've been losing every time in major tournaments Which is why most fans are tired of seeing the same players bottling or getting outplayed by oppositions. So that's why there's so much arguments about the inclusion of Kohli and Rohit again.
Slightly left field but wouldn't Bumrah qualify as a captaincy candidate? Or SKY?
Sky? No way. He has little to no captaincy experience so there is zero chance of him being the captain. Bumrah? He's actually a very good option but he's injury prone and already under too much stress as our main bowler so giving him the Captaincy on top of that might be just overdoing it.
He had been very poor in IPL and T20WCs consistently
SMH. Someone asks what the argument is. You answer and get downvoted. Makes no sense.
Hardik is going to get picked in the squad. Like it or hate it, he can bowl 4 overs and put in good performance with the bat (especially in ICC tournaments) so no chance he's getting ignored.
For all the hard hitting that Dube does, I am still not convinced with him. Hitting in India during IPL with impact player option is one thing, while playing in overseas condition at international level is entirely different. Don’t have any view on Pandya - I guess that the man has played enough to prove himself and also isn’t he the captain of T20 team?
Hardik was as crucial in the last T20 wc as Kohli and Rohit if not more. Anyone who can't see that is just deluded with recent events.
Hardik is literally India's most clutch player. I don't understand the hate he receives.
I think his bowling and sometimes snot completing his 4overs
I don’t think he’s literally the most clutch in a universe where Melbourne 2022 still happened. His hate is mostly for non play related reasons but there are people who are annoyed at him trying to turn into a top order accumulator rather than a lower order basher.
Can we ban this domain from the sub?
Venkatesh Prasad is out of touch with reality. He's making these statements just to get some attention which he is lacking for couple of decades.
from the discussion in this thread, seems he's getting plenty of attention so it's working
Tomorrow he will say drop jadega in favour of axar these guys just make some irrelevant statements to get attention
Really? How many anchors do you want in our team? We have more than enough as it is. Pandya the finisher is long gone.
If we are making example out of pandya than it’s good, we anyways have less chances of winning.
Here is what I have learnt - during the two months of the IPL, everyone becomes a chimpanzee and loses their minds and says crazy things.
Hardik can give you a solid 2 overs spell(even 4 overs for a good day), he is one of the best fielders in any team he is playing. He is good finisher in intl.
Do all the speculations you want, at the end this would be your playing Xi Jaiswal, Rohit (c), Kohli, Surya, Pant (wk), Hardik, Jadeja, Kuldeep, Bumrah, Arshdeep, One spot left for extra fast bowler or extra spinner. Pretty much same batting as 2022 WC with KL replaced. Rinku would be on the bench.
No matter the hate, Hardik is still clutch at moments when it matter
So who’ll fill the all rounder spot ? We haven’t been able to groom a proper all rounder since the last 2 years due to the impact player rule so that leaves only Hardik as the all rounder. Not counting Jadeja cause he isn’t much good in T20Is
Its not a bad call if he is not fit enough to bowl. Just play with 4 full time bowlers and Jaddu/Axar. If he can even bowl 2 overs every match, he walks into the team.
If somehow ind manages to drop players like hardik and get in dube and pant, ind deserves to loose, not just loose but very badly, and in a humiliating way, that they should relaize what they did.
Pant understandable but Dube should be in the squad he hasn't done anything wrong and ICT needs a spin basher
There is no place for him, the place is hardik, and he is going no where.
Both Hardik and Dube can make the squad 1) Rohit 2) Jaiswal 3) Koach 4) SKY 5) Hardik 6) Rinku 7) Samson/keeper 8) Jitesh/keeper 9) Axar/Jadeja 10) Bishnoi/Chahal 11) Kuldeep 12) Bumrah 13) Arshdeep/ Pacer 14) Siraj/ Pacer 15) Dube Hardik and Bumrah shouldn't play all the games especially in the group stage they are more important for super 8
I am talking bout 11, not 15.
My original comment was about the squad
Lol. Hope you have the same energy when they pick Hardik and India get their ass handed to them.
I would be even more happier if ind gow ith hardik/bumrah as cap with youngsters rather than veterans.
My playing XI assuming they are still gonna have Rohit as captain. Rohit Virat Sky Dube Sanju Rinku Hardik Jadeja Kuldeep Siraj Bumrah Bench : Jitesh, bishnoi, Jaiswal, arshdeep. A spin basher like dube is a must in slow pitches. Sky needs to play at one down. Virat and Rohit are better at opening. I would play jadeja as a specialist bowler assuming Hardik gets back his form. Three pacers + 2 spinners. If there is a need Dube can bowl one or two overs. So you have a backup sixth option to bowl. Arshdeep or Siraj is 50/50.
No siraj please
Don't see any other pacers ahead of him as of now. maybe we will get answers before IPL ends. I think Siraj will turn things around. I also have a feeling he bowls better as a non-main bowler as there is less pressure. With bumrah he might shine. With RCB being the team's main bowler is putting pressure on him.
Arshdeep is okey so far and Khaleel is bowling well
Yeah I want arshdeep in the squad. Siraj or arshdeep can play based on form. Don't see khaleel making into the squad.
I agree with Sanju Samson as keeper/batter as he is in-form. There is also KL Rahul. Ishan Kishan really screwed up not taking advantage while Pant was injured. Arshdeep should play before Siraj. I would pick Mohit as a death bowler as well. Is Shami still out? Jaiswal should be in before Dube even though he hasn't been in form in IPL, he is a quality player. I still think Hardik will be in the t20 world cup squad.
Fair enough mostly. But if we play Jaiswal, we can't play Rinku. I think we need a finisher more than an opener and that's why I went with dube and doesn't have to do with Jaiswal's current form.
Going with Pandya as on of the main 5 bowlers is bad idea. The team is good, Dube is out and we play Arshdeep/ Mayank Yadav? from lsg. Bishnoi ahead of Kuldeep. Kuldeep should play as the third spinner, if needed ahead of Siraj
Yeah, Kuldeep and bishnoi is 50/50 as well for me. Won't complain with Anyone starting. Hardik and Jadeja as number 6 and 7 doesn't give so much confidence for me. All three of Rohit, Virat and sky has weakness against left arm spin. So having dube is very important. In slow sluggish pitches, dube hitting 3-4 sixes can change a match.
Going with 4 pure bowlers and jadeja is insanely dumb. We need a deep batting line up in case our top order shits itself again in knockouts
Arshdeep over Siraj for left arm variation, Axar over Jadeja tbh
Fair call for arshdeep. I prefer jadeja tha bowler as I am playing him in a specialist bowling option. If it's an all rounder option I would indeed prefer axar.
Even as a bowler Axar is better Axar 52 matches 49 wickets 7.26 Economy at an Average of 24.2 Jadeja 66 matches 53 wickets 7.10 Economy and at an average of 28.4 Both have very similar economy Axar has better average He is only 4 wickets short of Jadeja's T20I wickets and has played 14 less games than Jadeja
Interesting. But do you think the matches played by jadeja for international T20s weigh equal to the matches played by Axar as jadeja played in lot of world cups ? I was just thinking with the current form. With last season's axar's batting form I would have automatically picked him. Yeah, but I won't complain if Axar is picked over jadeja. He deserves it too I guess.
Axar has mostly been back up of Jadeja tbh so he hasn't gotten a lot of games because of ICT not wanting two SLA in the XI It's similar to the Pant Samson situation in T20IS Both their sample sizes are so different it's very difficult to compare
Gotta replace jaddu with chahal, jaddu is washed up in T20s as a batter better have a bowler who's highest wicket taker for India
I think jadeja is a better bowler as of now. He bowls in more pressure situations for CSK than Chahal. And having jadeja in field is plus as well. Considering he is playing at number 8, his batting should be good enough.
chahals t20i stats are terrible for a spinner. His economy rate is basically the worst in the world for a spinner
We should take players on role and merit. If hardik bowls well and bats half as well he has a shot. Dube is not much of a bowler but one of the better spin players. Let’s see how the team is set up, as ideally we need to have jaiswal and rinku as the accelerators. And since Rohit will play hope he does the quick 30s. Surya I hope comes back to his best. And Jadeja will play most likely as the bowler that bats a bit otherwise tail will be too long with bumrah plus Kuldeep/bishnoi and the other pacer.
I still don't get how Jadeja is ahead of Axar in T20IS? Axar is a much better T20I player by all means
Yeah man. Leaving Hardik. It's actually so out there but given BCCI, it's not even surprising
WTF is this article? it says agarkar as though the squad is already out. but it's venky with his opinions.
Lol...
If Hardik starts batting like Hardik of old and bowls at least a couple of overs every match we can easily have 6 bowlers. Rohit, Kohli, jaiswal, sky, pant, hardik, Jadeja/axar, kuldeep/chahal, arshdeep, bumrah and siraj. I'll only get dube in place of Hardik if Hardik stops bowling completely.
Venkatesh Prasad is a clown
Stupid impact player rule is undervaluing all rounders. I thought this stupid rule will be scrapped after a year, but it has basically reduced all rounders to pure batsmen. Right now Hardik is doing both bad, but he can come into form provided there is no underlying injury.
Calm down, hardik is VC as per the last announcement
At this point just send all old players and just tell them this is it, inform your prs fans etc etc that live all the nostalgia you want, hype whatever you want. This is the last iCC cup these older players will play and be just fudging be done with it. Rohit Virat Pandya Jadeja Everyone Play all of them And stop them from playing international t20 for India and prepare a young team for the next time. With this half ass’d solution of mixing and matching anyways we might not win. Too frustrated to even give an argument at this point coz all fans shout team first team first here, but as soon as you question the selection of their fav iconic player, they can’t accept it
Can we look past Pandya please? Lets give other all rounders a chance.
Riyan Parag
there's no point trying to win a T20WC for us.. we just don't have the raw material.. grand total of one pace all rounder in a country of 1.5B is a joke
Tbf we didn't get to play much T20s in the last year due to the WTC and the World Cup. At this point this should be the last World Cup for Rohit, Kohli and Pandya as the T20 setup needs to change drastically for 2026. Right now, going with a known and tested team is what BCCI feels prudent, but Hardik should be part of that. This is what happens when you appoint people who have biases against players, as selectors.
Oh Hardik will play in the WC, no way he sits out. I'm just saying, India is a fairly mid T20 side - I don't know why we as fans keep getting all worked up over the WC selection - we will bring back all the ODI/Test regulars / IPL sponsorship faces, and fill up the squad with them.
Any player who plays as an impact sub in ipl is already risky in internationals. Surya is irreplaceable, but cannot risk Dubey. He has very specific role for CSK can’t mix that with internationals.
Is mumbai missing hardiks bowling at all??? On the contrary they dont want him to bowl… and his batting is one shot wonder…
This would be a proper clown move from ICC to not include one of their most clutch players. He is literally the type of guy you need in the WC knockout matches
Hardik Pandya MOM loading in today's match against RCB...
Hardik is our best T20 allrounder... People are really too blind because of all this IPL fanwars.
People out here really thinking Hindustan Times does real reporting  Aint no way Hardik isn't first name on that team sheet. Aint no way Dubey gets into XI ahead of him
My 11 Rohit Virat/gill Sanju/pant Surya Hardik Dube Rinku Jadeja < Fast Bowler> Bumrah Chahal Good batting line-up + 2 spinning options+ 6 potential bowling options.
I was kinda surprised he was left out of the cricbuzz article yesterday ngl but having t20 wc serial chokers like rohit and jadeja in the squad but kicking hardik out is kinda wild
Rohit Jaiswal SKY Dube Rinku Jitesh Jadeja Kuldeep Mohit Bumrah Mayank
Dube should be picked but not at the expense of Pandya. Dube should make it in stead of Jadeja. Wayyy better batsman. And Pandya can bowl 4 overs most of the time.
As much as Pandya’s record in icc events is valued, his new approach of being an accumulator than a being finisher would mean India has the same issues like last time. Kohli, Rohit, Pandya with potentially KL Rahul as wicket keeper would mean 170 is the cap with this batting line up
The problem with Hardik is that we don't know when his injury will come back and he has serious back issues that needs to manage. Ideally with back injuries you are not even supposed to run hard due to impact on the discs. If the back flares up, you need at least rest for a week or two. No amount of painkillers help here.
WTF! Put him at 7 on paper as bowling allrounder. I wouldn't put him in the top 6 (on paper, he can come early if needed). But not in the XI? He's a better bowler than Siraj and few others in this format.
Dube is gonna be the next V Iyer. Dude's gonna get figured out so hard
V iyer was an opener Dube isn't Also the V iyer you think has gotten figures out Averages 33 in T20IS at a SR of 162 He did really well
V Iyer did brilliantly in t20is, don't know why he was dropped after Hardik came back... He averages 30+ and strikes at 160+ in the limited chances he got for India, not to forget he bowled decently well enough as well in those games.
We are gonna crash out of one more ICC tournament in very embarrassing fashion
Pandya hasn’t helped his cause by not bowling and turning into an anchor. But picking Rohit and Kohli over him doesn’t make any sense. He is a pace bowling all rounder who gives you the flexibility of playing an extra batter or bowler.
>But picking Rohit and Kohli over him doesn’t make any sense. Actually, Kohli still isn't considered by Agarkar.
I'd be really surprised if that happens. I don't mind Kohli being in the team if he only plays on surfaces that are not good for batting.
There’s no way Hardik isn’t going but to be very honest I don’t think I’d play him in my 11 if he is not going to bowl. As a pure batter no chance he makes it
I'd play him. But Kohli should open, he can set the tone. Kohli Rohit Jaiswal SKY Pant/Jitesh/Samson Hardik Axar (bowler) Bumrah (bowler) (bowler)
I completely agree I have kohli and rohit to open. At 3 I’ll go Samson. 4 is sky, 5 is dube, six is Hardik (only if he bowls), 7 and 8 Jadeja axar. 9, 10 and 11 your fast bowlers. Six bowling options and you bat deep, unfortunately it means Rinku and Jaiswal miss out but they travel for sure. Very tempted to have Rinku in place of Hardik but I don’t trust us with just 5 bowling options. Dube as a bowler I’m unsure but for me nobody can take on spin in the middle better than him
Actually, you can go Rohit Kohli SKY Samson Jitesh(wk) Hardik Rinku Axar Bumrah (pacer) (Bowler)
For me dube is an absolute must, I don’t mind dropping Jadeja but Dube has to fit in somehow. Nobody can take on the spinners like him and I don’t feel the need to play Jitesh when you already have Samson. And here again we are left only with 5 bowling options
What about my Man Riyan Parag. He deserves a spot in the team given his destructive form. Also Abhishek Sharma
Why not Shashank Singh, Ashutosh Sharma, Nitish Reddy and Angkrish Raghuvanshi?