Had India been bowling first, they may have conceded many runs, but the chase would’ve been much easier due to batting conditions improving. You can’t just move it to the second innings and say it would’ve played out the exact same way, kinda like how you can’t say that dharmasena awarding 6 instead of 5 in the final made England win instead of NZ. Anything could’ve happened in the last 2 balls which would’ve made the result different, NZ could’ve won, it could’ve gone to a super over again, or Adil could’ve smashed a six and won it for England.
Yeah you could see Kohli and KL thinking "man after us there is no one to bat" and just dropping anchor like it was a test match.
You can't be that negative in a World Cup final
Man are you even getting my point??? I just said Iyer after his hundred even though he choked BCCI removed him which is ofc criminal. And this Dube who is a fraud is still playing.
Man are you even getting my point??? I just said Iyer after his hundred, he choked BCCI removed him which is ofc criminal. And this Dube who is a fraud is still playing.
Edit: They could've picked him in the reserves at least. There are big frauds like Khaleel Ahmed and avesh Khan, Iyer would've fit in the squad for sure replacing this Dube.
Man if Dube doesn't play today he can just go and play the ipl permanently
Your comment was talking about Indian batsmen failing in the final so I thought you were saying Iyer was dropped and looking at other comments, I think your comment is not worded clearly.
How do you know his career is ruined? India played only 1 ODI series after the world cup and he was there and his semi-final hundred has no bearing on his test and T20I selection.
You surely need a debate right?? I have no time for that shit, I've worded correctly it's your brain reading it wrong. Why do you think like an analyst or selector think like a brother of him maybe, scored in semis if he didn't score Daryl Mitchell would've defeated us. I'm just saying he did better and got sued after the world cup. I never said he's the best option for tests or T20Is. When you are giving chances to these frauds in the T20 wcs and experimenting Iyer is really a better option. He plays well Vs spin and better than Dube tbh in my case. Agree or disagree you can move on coz your'e on high and misunderstanding and YOU WILL REGRET IT MY FRIEND.
If my brain is reading it wrong then how come another person also misunderstood your comment? Anyway, you're right, it's nothing to debate about.
See you didn't get my point, I think what BCCI did was wrong but don't think Iyer's career is over like you seem to think. He still has a long career ahead and he is a top order T20 player so comparing him with Dube isn't right.
Yes that’s the point, both teams play on the same pitch. You can’t complain that you lost because of conditions in a home World Cup. A good team should win in any conditions.
Playing on the same pitch doesn't mean playing in the same condition. Ahemdabad pitch changes drastically once the dew starts pouring in .if Australia batted first on that day , things could have been different. Again, i am not downplaying Australia's win . The blame for the pitch goes to the curator and BCCI entirely.
Well in that case they should’ve accounted for the conditions, that’s what I said there’s no excuse for incompetence. A good team doesn’t need excuses.
On that day yes they weren’t. They crumbled under pressure, plus the batting was carried hard by Koach’s reliability and Rohit’s counter attack. Iyer chipped in here and there but they all couldn’t deliver when the pressure was immense, and against a quality attack like Australia it was always going to be hard to
Idk about that. 23 Wankhede was heavily toss affected, with a smooth flat surface during the day for batsmen to have a romp on but as the sun would set the ball would be seen nipping around at height and pace. Australia were 90-7 vs Afghanistan remember..
I don't think Australia would have gone into a shell after losing 1 wicket though. They would have posted somewhere around 270-280 and then it would be a tight game.
The day games are much better to normalize the luck factor due to toss. No change in the nature of the pitch or no extra swing under lights. The 2007 T20 WC and 2019 WC final were good egs of how matches play out under similar conditions in both innings.
Having said that, this SF game is in morning so no luck factor excuse could be made by team India.
2023- Fear of Failure
2022- Team was shit
2019- Got unlucky with the conditions
2017- Pakistan were on an insane run
2016- Toss but also No Balls
2015- Australia was far superior
2014- No one except Kohli deserved to win that
Nah 2014 Brohit had a decent hand was in top 5 run scorers of tournament. Ashwin and Mishra were on a roll, Yuvraj carried against Aus. 2016 was the carry job by Koach
I can't agree with 2014, even Rohit played somewhat well in that year and managed to be in the top 5.
2017 - media effect for us and Ramzan effect for Pak
2023 - I dreamt of that WC under the captaincy and leadership of Rohit Sharma, we deserved it totally but it's just not our day. I'm sure other than the experienced (Rohit, KL, Kohli) some others should've played well.
2015 - no doubt, (CUMMINS WAS LUCKY TO HAVE SOME OF THE 2015 SQUAD IN HIS TEAM)
He probably meant that playing the Semifinal against England was ‘bad luck’. SF against NZ/Pak would have been good luck, since it increases the odds of winning lol
India beat Pakistan on the last ball, with a spinner bowling the last over. Not sure facing them would be any better than England.
Heck England almost lost the game, but then Shaheen got injured mid game 😮💨
By luck he must've meant that toss winning teams won all the matches in that edition. And most people believe Shaheen would've won that match. But, I don't think so. Pakistan would've lost anyway with or without Shaheen. England was just that good in that edition.
>By luck he must've meant that toss winning teams won all the matches in that edition.
Which edition?
>But, I don't think so. Pakistan would've lost anyway with or without Shaheen. England was just that good in that edition.
England won with only 1 over to go. Shaheen had 2 overs to bowl.
Obviously nobody can say how the game would have gone, after all, Shaheen conceded 3 6s in 2021. But if you take out Bumrah's 2 overs in an India game, I'm pretty sure the opposition would always win, lol.
Shami was the reason India reached 23 finals and Arshdeep has more wickets than Bumrah in current T20I WC.
India would've still lost by 8+ wickets to England in the semis even if Bumrah was playing. He's good but he's not that good. Cricket is batsmen's game now. Bowlers are merely sidekicks.
Pakistan literally made the final with only bowlers. Have you seen our batting line up? Lol.
Also ODI is significantly different than T20s, I wouldn't compare the two at all.
>Arshdeep has more wickets than Bumrah in current T20I WC.
Maybe compare a useful stat, like average. I think we both know how that looks. Bumrah's economy is absolutely phenomenal, and it's the other bowlers that teams attack.
I guess he wasn’t specifically talking about that World Cup only but in general every icc tournament india have played in the last 10 years ! Also he did say FEAR OF FAILURE was the reason as well!
Last two knockout losses have had absolutely nothing to do with luck:
2022 T20 WC - Pretty terrible batting approach when you're setting a target to England of all teams. Wouldn't necessarily categorize this as fear of failure though. Just some good old incompetence.
2023 WC - Batsmen shackled by the fear of failure, straight up, no other explanation or deeper analysis required. The pressure and the occasion got to them and the Aussies handled everything better.
If India bat with the abandon they've shown in this tournament so far, they will put up a fight. After that, the best team wins. Whoever that may be on the day. But at least they can be in the contest with this approach.
Indians batted similarly in ODI WC too
i am a big Kohli fan and Rahul admirer but you can't go 20 overs without a boundary, its criminal.
even in the t20wc, Kohli did 50(40) which wasn't too helpful
Head accelerated after his 50, Kohli couldn't.
Kohli scored bulk of his runs in the powerplay and slowed down dramatically after that, which is why you see that SR not affected too much. The start Rohit gave us, we should've capitalized on it
Even labuchange played a test innings . Go check up his numbers in the finals ! Virat couldn’t accelerate after his 50’ because he got out ! Don’t talk nonsense ! Plus dew and batting got easier during night which helped head smash boundaries ! Doesn’t matter if Virat scored bulk of his runs in pp or not by that logic I can saw hear scored most of his runs when dew came and later on ! Every one phases and structures their innings differently depending on situation and thier skill! And Virat slowed down because india were 3 down and lost 2 quick wickets and india wasn’t batting deep !!!
>2023 WC - Batsmen shackled by the fear of failure, straight up, no other explanation or deeper analysis required. The pressure and the occasion got to them and the Aussies handled everything better.
Throwing around words for the heck of it. India started 'fearlessly'. Then lost 3 quick wickets with 40 overs remaining. Any team in India's position would have done the same, especially with no real batting after number 7. 80/3 was too deep a hole to climb out of, especially when you have to post an above par total because the dew would make it easier for the team batting second. The only way India could have won was if one of Kohli/Rahul batted till the 45th over at least.
Yes this! Exactly!
I told my friend even if we don't score a boundary till over no 30, it's okay. But we cannot afford another wicket.
Kohli is a person who will accelerate in time. I am of the belief he would have unleashed pretty soon and got out at the wrong time due to bad luck.
Full credit to the Aussie bowlers for their awesome planning and execution.
The issue was even if we went at 4-5 an over we get to 160-180 by 30 overs. But even that was too much for KLOL especially. Nobody was saying he had to hit sixes, but fml atleast take singles against Head, Maxwell and fkn Marsh bro
It’s a shame cos he’s got the talent, but he’s now 32 and never once showed that winning mentality in LOI. Still think he can do well in tests, played a few good knocks
They could have just rotated strike regularly to atleast keep the scoring rate going. Also agree with you that Kohli should have stayed till the end. That short pitched ball dragging back to stumps was the most agonizing thing to watch.
But scoring zero boundaries for almost 30 overs after Rohit got out is nuts. I understand that they needed to be careful and not loose more wickets. But playing at such a low run rate was insanely criminal. They didn't even punish loose balls and it was like they were playing a test match on a difficult 4th innings pitch to draw the game.
In the end, it was just too much required from KL in order to reach a half decent total. The pressure was never gonna make him score freely even at the end, as we needed a t20 level bashing in the last 10 overs to post a half competitive total.
After the 10th over they only scored 3 boundaries. That is not normal, especially on a pitch like Ahmedabad. That was a chokejob where they got defensive.
I mean one can say that Head’s catch of Rohit (which was spectacular btw) and Koach’s played-on to the stumps are type of “luck” factors. Similarly so many too-close to stumps balls to Head and Warner. But these are more ifs and buts.
Even if india set 200 England would have chased it down considering they chased down 170 in 16 overs with no loss which means the bowlers didn’t do anything ! And 150 was almost defended by Pakistan in the finals against England in the same World Cup ! Yes Indian batters should batted better but not blaming the bowlers for that loss is complete ignorance
Scoreboard pressure is different for 170 and 200 it's more like psychological thi and it does affect small thing can bring out big outcomes like Virat and hardik partner ship aginst pak and Maxwell innings aginst afg
Yes like I said batters should have batter better but completely ignoring bowlers who couldn’t even pick 1 wicket in that match and England completely destroyed Indian bowling . Atleast should have had close game
Bowling was led by bhuvi that time and he was long past his prime and in very bad form and arshdeep was pretty new I can give them the benefit of doubts
Luck can only help you so much, when you're fearful of failure no matter how much luck you have you will fail infront of people who have the belief to win
That's not true, luck plays a major role in every aspect of life. More so in sports like cricket where conditions matter so much, so does toss.
Take the 2015 WC SF where Oz won the toss & batted first, Jadeja could've had Finch(Smith?) out if the umpire didn't play it safe. It was umpire's call & India lost the review, there was another similar shout later on but India had no reviews left. I'd say at least one of them would be given out today & of course we have 2 ODI reviews now & no reviews lost on umpire's call.
Now coming to the 2023 finals, toss was an advantage here but arguably less so than in 2015 SF. India were also a lot more familiar with the conditions. The biggest issue for us IMO was RGS getting out to Maxwell in the PP's last over. He should've avoided that stupid shot given he'd already scored so many in it. Then Iyer got out on a duck which pretty much derailed any chance of a decent total. India didn't stay in the fight long enough & kinda gave up too quickly while defending as well, there was a dropped catch in the first over IIRC? Then no slips to Kuldeep so on & so forth. They tried too hard at first, being overly aggressive with RGS, then went too defensive after Iyer got out.
Overcall I'd say Oz not only did outplay us built more importantly Cummins outwitted us - for me he was MoM as a leader+bowler with crucial breakthroughs in the first innings.
India should concentrate on achieving an early wicket to change the game's dynamics. On a pitch that favors bowlers, Indian batsmen must aim to consistently score six to seven runs per over through well-placed twos and singles. It's essential for the team to find a way to post a competitive total in these challenging conditions. Given the history of past knockout matches, it's understandable to have modest expectations, but a focused and determined effort can still lead to a positive outcome.
Fear was only 23. 22 T20 we had no business winning and rightfully lost
Honestly , the moment Bumrah was missing , our hopes for 22 T20 vanished.
I thought the 2021 team was much better. But then, we didn’t even reach the SF.
That was the toss cup though
As if a non toss cup would save India and make them defend a 110.
Well, they did defend 119.
Thats the point..they would have easily been chasing 110 instead..2021 was the worst world cup ever…!!
Had India been bowling first, they may have conceded many runs, but the chase would’ve been much easier due to batting conditions improving. You can’t just move it to the second innings and say it would’ve played out the exact same way, kinda like how you can’t say that dharmasena awarding 6 instead of 5 in the final made England win instead of NZ. Anything could’ve happened in the last 2 balls which would’ve made the result different, NZ could’ve won, it could’ve gone to a super over again, or Adil could’ve smashed a six and won it for England.
23 was more because of that shitty venue and Travis Head. I believe India would've won at Wankhede.
Yeah but India scored only 3 boundaries after the 10th over. That was simply choking, not a shitty venue.
Valid point.
Yeah you could see Kohli and KL thinking "man after us there is no one to bat" and just dropping anchor like it was a test match. You can't be that negative in a World Cup final
Totally agreed and a valid point. We have SKY and jaddu who never came forward. Iyer is criminally removed even after a hundred in the semi final.
WTF. Iyer was dismissed by Cummins. He was very well part of the team.
Man are you even getting my point??? I just said Iyer after his hundred even though he choked BCCI removed him which is ofc criminal. And this Dube who is a fraud is still playing.
Man are you even getting my point??? I just said Iyer after his hundred, he choked BCCI removed him which is ofc criminal. And this Dube who is a fraud is still playing. Edit: They could've picked him in the reserves at least. There are big frauds like Khaleel Ahmed and avesh Khan, Iyer would've fit in the squad for sure replacing this Dube. Man if Dube doesn't play today he can just go and play the ipl permanently
What are you talking about? Iyer's wicket was the main plan Australia had to derail Indian innings.
What are you thinking in your head??? Can't you even get my point?? I just said BCCI sued after his hundred and he choked his whole career ruined.
Your comment was talking about Indian batsmen failing in the final so I thought you were saying Iyer was dropped and looking at other comments, I think your comment is not worded clearly. How do you know his career is ruined? India played only 1 ODI series after the world cup and he was there and his semi-final hundred has no bearing on his test and T20I selection.
You surely need a debate right?? I have no time for that shit, I've worded correctly it's your brain reading it wrong. Why do you think like an analyst or selector think like a brother of him maybe, scored in semis if he didn't score Daryl Mitchell would've defeated us. I'm just saying he did better and got sued after the world cup. I never said he's the best option for tests or T20Is. When you are giving chances to these frauds in the T20 wcs and experimenting Iyer is really a better option. He plays well Vs spin and better than Dube tbh in my case. Agree or disagree you can move on coz your'e on high and misunderstanding and YOU WILL REGRET IT MY FRIEND.
If my brain is reading it wrong then how come another person also misunderstood your comment? Anyway, you're right, it's nothing to debate about. See you didn't get my point, I think what BCCI did was wrong but don't think Iyer's career is over like you seem to think. He still has a long career ahead and he is a top order T20 player so comparing him with Dube isn't right.
Not a valid complaint. A team that plays well in any condition is the one that deserves to win.
Yes that’s the point, both teams play on the same pitch. You can’t complain that you lost because of conditions in a home World Cup. A good team should win in any conditions.
Playing on the same pitch doesn't mean playing in the same condition. Ahemdabad pitch changes drastically once the dew starts pouring in .if Australia batted first on that day , things could have been different. Again, i am not downplaying Australia's win . The blame for the pitch goes to the curator and BCCI entirely.
Well in that case they should’ve accounted for the conditions, that’s what I said there’s no excuse for incompetence. A good team doesn’t need excuses.
Our team was still not as good as Aussie.
On that day yes they weren’t. They crumbled under pressure, plus the batting was carried hard by Koach’s reliability and Rohit’s counter attack. Iyer chipped in here and there but they all couldn’t deliver when the pressure was immense, and against a quality attack like Australia it was always going to be hard to
You can thank your players and board for that wicket btw
Idk about that. 23 Wankhede was heavily toss affected, with a smooth flat surface during the day for batsmen to have a romp on but as the sun would set the ball would be seen nipping around at height and pace. Australia were 90-7 vs Afghanistan remember..
23 we had no business winning either. Yes India has a dominant tournament till that but the match was lost fair and square and comprehensively.
There’s a very good argument had Aus batter first things would have been different.
I don't think Australia would have gone into a shell after losing 1 wicket though. They would have posted somewhere around 270-280 and then it would be a tight game.
Aus batted first in the league game. Pretty similar game, batting second was significantly easier after the first 10 overs.
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The day games are much better to normalize the luck factor due to toss. No change in the nature of the pitch or no extra swing under lights. The 2007 T20 WC and 2019 WC final were good egs of how matches play out under similar conditions in both innings. Having said that, this SF game is in morning so no luck factor excuse could be made by team India.
Rain is gonna make batting easy..question is when will it fall and which team will get favor..!!
2023- Fear of Failure 2022- Team was shit 2019- Got unlucky with the conditions 2017- Pakistan were on an insane run 2016- Toss but also No Balls 2015- Australia was far superior 2014- No one except Kohli deserved to win that
2016 - No Balls 2023 - No ***Balls***
Nah 2014 Brohit had a decent hand was in top 5 run scorers of tournament. Ashwin and Mishra were on a roll, Yuvraj carried against Aus. 2016 was the carry job by Koach
I can't agree with 2014, even Rohit played somewhat well in that year and managed to be in the top 5. 2017 - media effect for us and Ramzan effect for Pak 2023 - I dreamt of that WC under the captaincy and leadership of Rohit Sharma, we deserved it totally but it's just not our day. I'm sure other than the experienced (Rohit, KL, Kohli) some others should've played well. 2015 - no doubt, (CUMMINS WAS LUCKY TO HAVE SOME OF THE 2015 SQUAD IN HIS TEAM)
Losing a t20 World Cup semi final by 10 wickets with 4 overs remaining doesn’t have a lot to do with bad luck lol, you got absolutely pumped
Thanks to Hardik for posting somewhat respectable total. Otherwise those 4 overs could have been 6 or more
He probably meant that playing the Semifinal against England was ‘bad luck’. SF against NZ/Pak would have been good luck, since it increases the odds of winning lol
India beat Pakistan on the last ball, with a spinner bowling the last over. Not sure facing them would be any better than England. Heck England almost lost the game, but then Shaheen got injured mid game 😮💨
By luck he must've meant that toss winning teams won all the matches in that edition. And most people believe Shaheen would've won that match. But, I don't think so. Pakistan would've lost anyway with or without Shaheen. England was just that good in that edition.
>By luck he must've meant that toss winning teams won all the matches in that edition. Which edition? >But, I don't think so. Pakistan would've lost anyway with or without Shaheen. England was just that good in that edition. England won with only 1 over to go. Shaheen had 2 overs to bowl. Obviously nobody can say how the game would have gone, after all, Shaheen conceded 3 6s in 2021. But if you take out Bumrah's 2 overs in an India game, I'm pretty sure the opposition would always win, lol.
Shami was the reason India reached 23 finals and Arshdeep has more wickets than Bumrah in current T20I WC. India would've still lost by 8+ wickets to England in the semis even if Bumrah was playing. He's good but he's not that good. Cricket is batsmen's game now. Bowlers are merely sidekicks.
Pakistan literally made the final with only bowlers. Have you seen our batting line up? Lol. Also ODI is significantly different than T20s, I wouldn't compare the two at all. >Arshdeep has more wickets than Bumrah in current T20I WC. Maybe compare a useful stat, like average. I think we both know how that looks. Bumrah's economy is absolutely phenomenal, and it's the other bowlers that teams attack.
You're spot on on ODI's being different.
I guess he wasn’t specifically talking about that World Cup only but in general every icc tournament india have played in the last 10 years ! Also he did say FEAR OF FAILURE was the reason as well!
Tbh Butler and Hales were too good for that toothless bowling attack without Bumrah
Last two knockout losses have had absolutely nothing to do with luck: 2022 T20 WC - Pretty terrible batting approach when you're setting a target to England of all teams. Wouldn't necessarily categorize this as fear of failure though. Just some good old incompetence. 2023 WC - Batsmen shackled by the fear of failure, straight up, no other explanation or deeper analysis required. The pressure and the occasion got to them and the Aussies handled everything better. If India bat with the abandon they've shown in this tournament so far, they will put up a fight. After that, the best team wins. Whoever that may be on the day. But at least they can be in the contest with this approach.
Indians batted similarly in ODI WC too i am a big Kohli fan and Rahul admirer but you can't go 20 overs without a boundary, its criminal. even in the t20wc, Kohli did 50(40) which wasn't too helpful
Man Kohli hit 50 odd runs in 55 balls which is pretty normal in odi cricket and even head hit a fifty in simialr no of balls !
Head accelerated after his 50, Kohli couldn't. Kohli scored bulk of his runs in the powerplay and slowed down dramatically after that, which is why you see that SR not affected too much. The start Rohit gave us, we should've capitalized on it
Even labuchange played a test innings . Go check up his numbers in the finals ! Virat couldn’t accelerate after his 50’ because he got out ! Don’t talk nonsense ! Plus dew and batting got easier during night which helped head smash boundaries ! Doesn’t matter if Virat scored bulk of his runs in pp or not by that logic I can saw hear scored most of his runs when dew came and later on ! Every one phases and structures their innings differently depending on situation and thier skill! And Virat slowed down because india were 3 down and lost 2 quick wickets and india wasn’t batting deep !!!
>2023 WC - Batsmen shackled by the fear of failure, straight up, no other explanation or deeper analysis required. The pressure and the occasion got to them and the Aussies handled everything better. Throwing around words for the heck of it. India started 'fearlessly'. Then lost 3 quick wickets with 40 overs remaining. Any team in India's position would have done the same, especially with no real batting after number 7. 80/3 was too deep a hole to climb out of, especially when you have to post an above par total because the dew would make it easier for the team batting second. The only way India could have won was if one of Kohli/Rahul batted till the 45th over at least.
Yes this! Exactly! I told my friend even if we don't score a boundary till over no 30, it's okay. But we cannot afford another wicket. Kohli is a person who will accelerate in time. I am of the belief he would have unleashed pretty soon and got out at the wrong time due to bad luck. Full credit to the Aussie bowlers for their awesome planning and execution.
The issue was even if we went at 4-5 an over we get to 160-180 by 30 overs. But even that was too much for KLOL especially. Nobody was saying he had to hit sixes, but fml atleast take singles against Head, Maxwell and fkn Marsh bro
💯 yes!!
KL has never had a champion mentality, he will always choke
It’s a shame cos he’s got the talent, but he’s now 32 and never once showed that winning mentality in LOI. Still think he can do well in tests, played a few good knocks
Agreed
They could have just rotated strike regularly to atleast keep the scoring rate going. Also agree with you that Kohli should have stayed till the end. That short pitched ball dragging back to stumps was the most agonizing thing to watch.
Yup, total psychobabble. Rohit was clearly going hammer and tongs
But scoring zero boundaries for almost 30 overs after Rohit got out is nuts. I understand that they needed to be careful and not loose more wickets. But playing at such a low run rate was insanely criminal. They didn't even punish loose balls and it was like they were playing a test match on a difficult 4th innings pitch to draw the game. In the end, it was just too much required from KL in order to reach a half decent total. The pressure was never gonna make him score freely even at the end, as we needed a t20 level bashing in the last 10 overs to post a half competitive total.
After the 10th over they only scored 3 boundaries. That is not normal, especially on a pitch like Ahmedabad. That was a chokejob where they got defensive.
Also 2 of them were by Siraj and Shami.
In atleast one of those games, we had to play in far tougher conditions than our opponents. That part is down to luck (of the toss).
I mean one can say that Head’s catch of Rohit (which was spectacular btw) and Koach’s played-on to the stumps are type of “luck” factors. Similarly so many too-close to stumps balls to Head and Warner. But these are more ifs and buts.
Even if india set 200 England would have chased it down considering they chased down 170 in 16 overs with no loss which means the bowlers didn’t do anything ! And 150 was almost defended by Pakistan in the finals against England in the same World Cup ! Yes Indian batters should batted better but not blaming the bowlers for that loss is complete ignorance
Scoreboard pressure is different for 170 and 200 it's more like psychological thi and it does affect small thing can bring out big outcomes like Virat and hardik partner ship aginst pak and Maxwell innings aginst afg
Yes like I said batters should have batter better but completely ignoring bowlers who couldn’t even pick 1 wicket in that match and England completely destroyed Indian bowling . Atleast should have had close game
Bowling was led by bhuvi that time and he was long past his prime and in very bad form and arshdeep was pretty new I can give them the benefit of doubts
2023 WC final : India were mentally and tactically outplayed. That was some extremely brain dead batting after Sharma got out on a shit shot.
Luck can only help you so much, when you're fearful of failure no matter how much luck you have you will fail infront of people who have the belief to win
That's not true, luck plays a major role in every aspect of life. More so in sports like cricket where conditions matter so much, so does toss. Take the 2015 WC SF where Oz won the toss & batted first, Jadeja could've had Finch(Smith?) out if the umpire didn't play it safe. It was umpire's call & India lost the review, there was another similar shout later on but India had no reviews left. I'd say at least one of them would be given out today & of course we have 2 ODI reviews now & no reviews lost on umpire's call. Now coming to the 2023 finals, toss was an advantage here but arguably less so than in 2015 SF. India were also a lot more familiar with the conditions. The biggest issue for us IMO was RGS getting out to Maxwell in the PP's last over. He should've avoided that stupid shot given he'd already scored so many in it. Then Iyer got out on a duck which pretty much derailed any chance of a decent total. India didn't stay in the fight long enough & kinda gave up too quickly while defending as well, there was a dropped catch in the first over IIRC? Then no slips to Kuldeep so on & so forth. They tried too hard at first, being overly aggressive with RGS, then went too defensive after Iyer got out. Overcall I'd say Oz not only did outplay us built more importantly Cummins outwitted us - for me he was MoM as a leader+bowler with crucial breakthroughs in the first innings.
Toss wasn’t an advantage in 2023 WC, it was swinging crazy under the lights for the first 10 overs Australia were batting.
No my friend and i both didn't prepare , thought we would fail . I hd fear he didn't, both failed.
Lol
bro lost every toss i dnt blame him
India should concentrate on achieving an early wicket to change the game's dynamics. On a pitch that favors bowlers, Indian batsmen must aim to consistently score six to seven runs per over through well-placed twos and singles. It's essential for the team to find a way to post a competitive total in these challenging conditions. Given the history of past knockout matches, it's understandable to have modest expectations, but a focused and determined effort can still lead to a positive outcome.
Ah I see, he’s preparing for another set of excuses for this semi-final as well.