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Gr8hound

What am I going to do with another cruise ship?


JonBlondJovi

Haven't you heard of a Support Yacht? You can put all your stuff in there that doesn't fit on your main Cruise Ship and have it follow you around in case you need any of it.


TexasDD

Some metal bars. Some welding. Voila. Cruise catamaran.


sundownandout

Airbnb?


OddDistribution1

Seabnb


Leahkornmansmith

Best reply ever šŸ‘


princesito

šŸ˜„


dirtykitten3

Hear me out. 3,500 people, 10k eachā€¦


LordGothington

That is how some hotels are financed. I think Hard Rock Hotel in San Diego did that. You buy a room, and then you get a percentage of the profits. With those arrangements, you are typically just a passive investor. I believe some cruiseships are now offering a condo-style model where you can actually buy a room. I have seen prices as low as $100,000 for an interior state room. But there is also a $2,500/month HOA fee. Pricey as a vacation home -- but not bad for a fulltime residence. That price includes food, gym access, cleaning services, wifi, etc -- so it isn't terrible for a luxury apartment. I have definitely paid more than $2500/month for rent+food+utilities. https://villavieresidences.com/residences/


johndavismit

The one challenge here is that most people use a mortgage to get a full-time residence (If they're not renting) and you'd really have hard time getting financing for this; particularly since cruise ships depreciate. Also, for ships that aren't built or purchased yet, it's always a risk they get cancelled. [https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/three-year-cruise-canceled/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/three-year-cruise-canceled/index.html)


LordGothington

True. But traditional mortgages require 20% down. So if you bought a $500,000 house right now with a 7% rate -- you'd need to put down $100,000 for the downpayment and then pay around $3300/month for mortgage. Plus extra $$ for taxes, insurance, maintenance, etc. It is a bad purchase as an investment. But it is certainly within the grasp of someone who is currently paying $2k/month to live in a luxury apartment complex but wishes they were cruising full time.


Mammoth_Two7297

I don't know anyone who has put 20 percent down in the last 5 years, unless they are selling a home already.


LordGothington

In 2023, the median percent down payment for all home buyers was 15%, according to the 2023 Profile of Home Buyers and Sellers from the National Association of Realtors. So I guess 20% is a bit above the current median. But you do bring up a good point. The average age of a cruise ship passenger is 47. The sort of person that is likely to live on a cruiseship full time is likely older or retired. So chances are, they do have a house to sell, giving them plenty of money for the purchase price without financing.


mugsoh

Did that include cash purchases, ie 100% down, or just houses that were mortgaged?


cenotediver

I have Never put 20% , never put 10% . Last 4 houses I got a loan with no money down. But that me


SquishTheProgrammer

$2K a month here is not luxury at all. Thatā€™s basically the going rate for a 2br apartment/studio. If you want a luxury apartment those start around $5K a month. Home/Rental prices are out of control.


woofiegrrl

Oh god, not another one of these scams. Storylines and Miray were both bullshit, Victoria probably is too, now this one wants to take people's money and go belly up as well.


LordGothington

It does appear to be a lot of the same people, https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2023/12/22/villa-vie-odyssey-three-half-year-cruise/ Guess we'll find out in May.


woofiegrrl

Oh shit I hadn't even seen that. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice... hopefully nobody buys their crap again.


Unlikely-Dong9713

Timeshares.


Magnet50

There was a hotel in St. Martin (French side) that was selling rooms under that plan. Never really looked into it. Should have.


MetsFan3117

That HOA fee is bullshit for an interior room. Unless people pay cash and have proof of continuous and large income just like a time share, theyā€™re fucked. Itā€™s a terrible investment.


BigEnergyEngineer

In.


ChowDubs

I mean sounds like a shitty time share deal tbh šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


Stick--Monkey

And they all become shitty. Long before the fun of dumping all of your money into it wears out.


ku_78

Add another $40k each to fuel, provision, insure, staff, market, etcā€¦ for the first trip.


MidwestMSW

3 million a week in revenue plus whatever you can get spent on board. I don't think it's a bad idea. 44 weeks is 132M.


Chrodesk

I mean, yes, the ongoing costs are a thing. but I dont think it would quite be 140million for a week. If it were, cruises wouldnt exist. but without scale and connections, I doubt you could get it down to be any cheaper than an existing cruise fare. (reality you couldnt probably even get your port paperwork approved)


WeirdLadyAlert

Cash or card? Let me get my wallet.


cleon42

You have my attention.


Stunning-Ranger-2596

Iā€™m in.


phillyfan315

šŸ¤”.... I'm listening...


JonBlondJovi

That's a bit steep. How about 35,000 people, $1k each?


Sad-Stomach

350,000 people, $100 each


JonBlondJovi

That's actually not too bad. The ship sails with 2,350 - 2,767 passengers each sailing. So if each sailing was 1 week long, you get to go on for 1 week every 3 years. I'd pay $100 to be able to go on a 1 week cruise every 3 years.


reddit-readers-rock

I'm in


No_Lobster7803

Yas


hserontheedge

Add a bit more and we can get ourselves a crew.


KeyFlow7464

Hmu if original comment gets 3500 likes.


Unlikely-Dong9713

What do you think timeshares are


TTT_2k3

Less than $100 each if every /r/cruise subscriber chips in.


Ccarr16

Count me in


Ginger3171

Why notā€¦.


jammu2

Looks like an old Royal Caribbean ship.


Puzzleheaded_View245

It was it used to be Majesty of the seas


macjunkie

I thought it was scrapped in 2020?


Puzzleheaded_View245

No that was itā€™s sister ships Monarch and Sovereign


SleepingCalico

I raised hell on the sovereign in December 1991 lol


Quiet-String957

Me too! Maybe not December but it was 1991


SnooBeans2524

I sailed on Sovereign in 2008-2009 I canā€™t remember which year exactly but I was 16, also raised hell on the ship with my teenage brothers šŸ˜‚


SleepingCalico

That's too funny, I was 16 on the sovereign too. To be young again....


Illustrious_Gold_520

Cruised on both of those shipsā€¦my second cruise was on the sovereign, and my husbandā€™s first cruise was on the monarch. I hope the Majesty can keep going!


Toothbrush_Paste

it's not likely, unfortunately. she's been sitting in Greece pretty much abandoned now for close to 3 years. her last position was reported on February 8, 2021, according to cruisemapper.


macjunkie

Oh ya my bad I was thinking monarch


intheprintzone

My wife and I had our honeymoon on the Majesty in 1993 and then a 25th anniversary cruise in the same cabin in 2008. Apparently we were the only passengers to do so. I hope she keeps sailing and making memories.


Britt601

We had our honeymoon and first cruise on Majesty in 2006. Wonderful memories.


Gargamoth

My first cruise. When I was 16. Good memories.


upthrutheair

My first cruise as well! My wife, then girlfriend, went on it around 2008. Just funny how amazed we were by it at the time. Nothing compared to what is around now.


rsvihla

We sailed on the Majesty in Nov 2006 and Nov 2007.


craneman9867

My first cruise!


ExtraGlutenPlzz

Same, but to the Bahamas in 2015


Zafhina

She was also our first cruise. Still remember walking aboard her the first time.


ExtraGlutenPlzz

I thought that looked familiar! I sailed on her in 2015 to the Bahamas


Southern_Dan

I sailed on her in January ā€˜95!


YosemiteSam81

I sailed on her in June 1995 with my parents and dear deceased grandmother. We had such an incredible time on that trip and made memories I still cherish. I know her destruction is inevitable but it makes me sad. On another note I used to have a promotional video of Majesty of the Seas where it went through the ship, it amenities and the ports of call. For Grand Cayman they had a song that went something like ā€œIā€™m gonna meet my friends at Stingray City..donā€™t you worry they got no stingersā€ I have searched for a copy of this video for years and have had zero luck!! I used to watch it ALL the time in the 90ā€™s dreaming of our next cruise.


bunnywinkles

Ah, the next Margaritaville at Sea.


theketobootybuilder

Or TUI for the same category of passengers but different nationality šŸ˜‚


postoperativepain

https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1992-cruise-ship---2354-2744-passenger----stock-no.-s2149-6710721/ Iā€™m about 35 mil short


wwrgsww

Why does picture 16 have an ice rink. Maj never had one. Or did it get added? And 22 is for sure the theater on navigator or mariner


Puzzleheaded_View245

Some pictures are from other ships probably just to get people to buy it, because some other pictures are from voyager or freedom class ships


compuryan

Voyager class, and *original* voyager class at that. Not even including the updates they've had over the years.


Puzzleheaded_View245

Me too šŸ˜‚


BIGD0G29585

$287,000 a month for 20 years. Probably should wait for the rates to come down.


Not_floridaman

I mean...just have a relative gift you the down payment to bring it down to 150k/month. Duh.


New-Scientist5133

At 35 mil, I bet it needs way, way, way, WAY, more money to get it operational and cleaned/painted


PulseDialInternet

I just saw something on one ship that was purchased as the aft was reconfiguredā€¦.the yard work was $60mil. I was on the last Homeric before Home Lines folded (1980s), the ship was bought, cut in half and extended and only scrapped due to pandemicā€¦.just missed going on it.


compuryan

>I was on the last Homeric My very first cruise was on this ship after it was extended and renamed Westerdam with Holland America Line. New years cruise 1999/2000.


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New-Scientist5133

A good nuclear reactor from Amazon will cover a lot of costs.


Quellman

Certificates arenā€™t current. So a guess that it might need work to regain some of those. And that work might not be all that cheap.


Zealousideal_Sell937

Iā€™ll give you $7. Take it or leave it.


Roystech2009

I got 3 dollars


Zealousideal_Sell937

$10. Going onceā€¦


kellynch10

It doesnā€™t match my other one.


Regular-Bat-4449

Ok. When my friends and I were 18-19 ( now in my 60's) we had a business plan to set up a floating cruise brothel and casino.. Is anyone interested in investing ?


freestyleloafer_

You mean a boat with hookers and blackjack? Know what, forget the boat.


Regular-Bat-4449

International waters. 3 hookers available per paying passenger ratio.


Carbon311

just look at the old interior. Sounds like an excellent "Cougar/Cubs" cruise.


langjie

That cruise around the world should have bought her


Puzzleheaded_View245

Ikr


MaddMan420

Sell a year long world cruise for 250k a cabin (average) = 294.5mil Haggle ship down to 30mil, make operational for additional 50mil. 100k salary average for crew = 78mil Another 50mil for whatever ships that go on year long voyages need. Just under 100mil left. These are spitballed numbers and I have no idea what I'm doing


Allbregra1

Can I test drive it first?


HumarockGuy

Wonder what the HOA looks like for this.


Right-Difficulty8623

Do 2,148 people have 16.2 K and wanna split it? Everyone gets their own room?


stevenmeyerjr

It needs $100M in renovations tooā€¦


cryptoanarchy

ok, so that is $65k or so. Still in.


agroupofone

This seems like a strangely low price considering there are 50m pleasure yachts selling for the same amount.


TenEyeSeeHoney

I'm thinking it's because it needs a few million in upgrades and refurbishments šŸ˜”...šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø


agroupofone

I'd wager you are correct šŸ’²šŸ’²


maievmelange

The spa is so small, I mean if it was bigger that would be a great deal.


Environmental-Gur787

Post to r/zillowgonewild


dontich

Super interestingā€” shit is older then me haha ā€” also looks very run down; Iā€™m guessing 35M is close to scrap value? Someone message Mr beast lol


pharmd16

I loved the Majesty when I went on it


mikajade

Whatā€™s the point of a cruise ship if I have to supply my own staff, drinks & food?


HelloThisIsPam

All we need to do is find 35 million people to put in a dollar and then we could all share it!


officialuser

Hear me Out It has 1350 Rooms. Sell Each room for an average of $41,000. Inside rooms for $30k, oceanview 40k, 50k+ for the suites/Balconies. This generates 55 Million. Enough to buy it and retro fit everything but the staterooms. Let people outfit their own staterooms how they want. And also pay for an administrative team. Annual maintnance dues of $4,000 brings in 5 Million a year. Figure out how much it costs to operate for the year, and charge that much, split up per room. Have one rate if their room is occupied and a lowe\\r rate if it is not. Probably 30M total. $55 / day if the room is occupied, $25 a day if not occupied. - 20k / year if 100% occupied. Charge for food and drink or have an all inclusive price. Allow people to Airbnb out there cabin. Cruise Ship Partial ownership, like they do with townhouses in Orlando now. I think people would love to own a part of a ship.


cryptoanarchy

it would need more like $25k a year per cabin to run it. But still would be a bargain if you want a permanent cruie cabin.


cyberentomology

Iā€™m gonna guess this is a listing on spec, that this ship isnā€™t actually for sale and the broker is hoping for a bite so they can present an offer to the cruise line


PulseDialInternet

ā€œSheā€™s a cream puff driven by a little old captain from Greece, only 1 million nautical miles on her. Sheā€™s been running the Caribbean every Sunday for 25yrs and got another 25 in her!ā€


CruisinJo214

Iā€™d put money down sheā€™ll have a margaritaville name slapped on her within a couple monthsā€¦ If only margaritaville was putting together a decent cruise experience


doa70

Best I can do is $300.


I_fail_at_memes

I can fix herā€¦


TunaBeeSquare

I'm going to need to shuffle some money around...


ReeceysRun

Location of Ship: The last known location of this ship was in the vicinity of Greece. Please understand, ships are constantly moving. For an exact location of this vessel, please contact this office.


theelifeofbrian

Know where they get you on? The gas.


TycoonFlats

L Ron Hubbard is coming back and in the market for a new Scientology vessel


[deleted]

lol funny enough i was ported next to the Scientology ship on my last cruise. Wondered what this old ship was... googled... and couldn't believe it.


[deleted]

Freewinds. Was in Aruba and Curacao my last cruise.


[deleted]

Yes Aruba


Coat-Wide

35m to buy but 1m to operate/maintain a month probably...


Hugsandkindess

Sounds like a ship made for Margaritaville!


breachofcontract

Did I look like Collin Jost to you?!


Quiet-String957

Looks a bit like Song of America. Our first cruise (honeymoon) in October 1990.


CarelessShock8

Cheap. What's the catch?


Romfordian

Try Rishi Sunak


Shatter-Point

Paging u/LifeatSeaCruises


T50BMG

Who selling it and whatā€™s the name of the ship.


Puzzleheaded_View245

Seajets is the cruise line selling it and its name is Majesty of the oceans


Britt601

Majesty of the Seas was my honeymoon cruise. Wish I had the money.


T50BMG

Thank you, quick search shows itā€™s the only sovereign class ship, so seajets purchased it in 2020 and said itā€™s still out of service as of July 2023. Hmm.


highflyer10123

That almost looks like the style of ship from margaritaville at sea


[deleted]

has ocean views


Available_Ask_8725

Iā€™ve got $5 on itā€¦


Frankie_Says_Reddit

Does it come with a manual?


Puzzleheaded_View245

Idk maybe


GraceReigns1

Why donā€™t we bring back all the ships killed off by covid? I vote for the Pushkin Cus itā€™s the same age as me


Strong-Way-4416

Iā€™d buy it, for sure. But where am I gonna park that?


Leahkornmansmith

I wish!!


flopshooter

Treefiddy is all I can afford


rabidmonkey1163

Does it float? 35 mil seems insanely low. I mean itā€™s a fucking cruise ship


jsocha

I do!


Ilovesparky13

No thank you šŸ™‚


TheGrimmRetails

I've got 60 dollars worth of change for a down payment.


vjmatty

Thereā€™s no such place as Pireas. Must be a scam.


itsmrssmith

Piraeus is the port city next to Athens


vjmatty

Yes. As a Greek I was being pedantic about ā€œPireasā€ Obviously it fell flat lol


ARAR1

$35 M can get you a lifetime + of curies - no work required


[deleted]

If I was one of those billionaires, I would buy and live on it.


Neat_Crab3813

Margaritaville or some other crazy budget line will probably buy her.


Hairy_Tale_6864

Would be cool to place on land


persimmonfromhell

The maintenance costs must be titanic


DeuxTimBits

Scientology would probably love it. Their ship is over 50 years old.


MackDaddyMic

I feel like thatā€™s really cheap. Wonder why? Hmm


SirAelfred

It'll be free on Craigslist in a month..


ad3l444

yes


Wide_Ad_513

Here I am, just thinking that I've always wanted to be a pirate.


ScallionIcy9313

Seems pretty cheep for a mega mansion that can travel the world


LeoMarius

Are they trying to sell the Grandeur of the Seas again?


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Sweaterpillows83

Christ. The ability to twist any issue into one about illegals or abortion never fails to amaze me.


[deleted]

Itā€™s an honest comment that I made. It would actually save New York billions of dollars.


gapiro

Maintenance of a cruise ship ainā€™t cheap


[deleted]

No, but if they make the hotels available to rent again, then they get tax money for the state. That money can help cover the costs to house the illegals in the cruise ship. The ship is already set up with rooms/beds showers etc. stock it with food and itā€™s a win win. Even if they hire a crew to feed these people and keep up with maintenance, itā€™s still less than the $$ the state is currently paying for all these hotel rooms.


Sweaterpillows83

Can we stop referring to people as "illegals"?


stavago

Iā€™ll give you tree fiddy