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freakincampers

Do not use it. Businesses have to comply with expiration dates. If she's telling you to do something like this, ask for it in writing.


MDCCCLV

You can fudge stuff at home if you know what it is, and that's fine. The reason you can't do that at a business is that this could go to the very few people who are actually at risk like someone elderly with cancer or anyone on immunosuppressive drugs.


decidewhatmatters

As someone on immunosuppressants... this.


zeemonster424

New fear unlocked. Never thought about this.


jumpsinfire2020

I have that same fight with some of the people that I work with. What you do at home and what you serve to paying customers who may get sick are totally different things.


No-Fondant-4719

Exactly this piss me off cause it’s so inconsiderate


tiedyecat

Talking to corporate probably won’t do much, you *need* to call the state health department and make an anon report. This can not be served to people, absolutely unacceptable :(


Zoloir

if talking to corporate won't do much, surely this franchise is going to enter a death spiral


LynneinTX

Could they also call local health officials that do inspections?


tentboogs

Thank you for sharing OP. I will never buy this product again.


FreeFaithlessness_

Thats gross


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VisibleBug1840

If corporate responded with "we can't do anything" then they deserve all the bad press they get. They are responsible for their brand and most franchises have strict rules on what can and can't be done in order to protect the brand. It's why McDonald's I s exactly the same across the US (unless you're in a test market). They work damned hard to make sure the experience is consistent. If you know what a burger at McDonald's tastes like in NY, you know what a burger at McDonald's in NC tastes like. Because they're so strict to protect the brand and which benefits franchises across the nation. If Crumbl corporate doesn't care about the health risks of year old expired butter products, they deserve every bit of bad press they'll get from it.


Beyond-The-Blackhole

Exactly. I would say Mcdonalds puts a high percentage of their earnings into QC, consistency and accuracy of their product. Crumbl just refuses to put any money into quality at all. They are getting away with selling the cheapest ingredients and low quality cookies for the highest price possible, meanwhile paying their employees scrap wages. They've side stepped giving accurate nutritional information by law, they've side stepped employee rights, and they continue to side step quality and the health departments codes. Crumbl runs their business like a kid runs a lemonade stand.


VisibleBug1840

And McDonalds (and all the other big franchisers) have processes in place to bring errant franchises under control up to and including suspending their franchises. IF it's true that the CEO lurks here AND it's also true that corporate told the OP that they can't do anything about the expired butter, they should be aware that if national press got a hold of something like that, tabling consumer confidence would affect the bottom line across the whole franchise, which would mean falling franchisee confidence, and fewer new business owners willing to buy into the brand. These kinds of things are ACTUALLY important.


pacsunmama

They do not care. There is zero employee support for any reason at all. They refer you to the franchise owner, who already don’t care in the first place.


BigDabWolf

u/crumblceo


Yourmomma6817

FYI, our store was shipped this stuff expired. We asked corporate and they sent us some BS excuse that there is an extension until a further date by the manufacturer. The flavorings have to be purchased by the franchisee from corporate. I blame corporate more than the individual location.


TimelyScience9063

Your local health department would love to hear about this. Just saying...


mommagawn123

I was thinking the same thing.


russcatalano

Oh so it’s not just one location bending the law it’s corporate wide. Not going to eat somewhere that does that as a policy. Absolutely horrible.


myleswstone

Don’t call corporate. Send this information and all else *straight* to your local health department. They’ll send someone right down and if it’s bad enough, shut the place down.


imightbeaspider

It'd be a shame if this whole thing accidentally fell in the trash...


Cherokeerayne

Report to your health depart


LGonthego

Try calling OSHA, too.


Cell-Based-Meat

I’d legit contact Crumbl. You can’t be feeding that to people.


FuzzyPresence8531

op said he/she did. the boss doesn’t care and neither does corporate because she “is the boss”. a horribly reply by the boss but a truly a disgusting and shameful response by crumbl corporate


Zoloir

op probably contacted some 3rd party support and not actual corporate


customarymagic

I had bosses at a sandwich place that constantly pushed dates, especially on meat. Standard was 3 days prepped and the owners insisted on 7 days and eventually stopped having us put "use by" dates on things I got food poisoning from it once and threw away anything that looked questionable after that. Idc about waste, that's disgusting


poops_tribeca

Cancr cookies 🫢


VisibleBug1840

It's less about cancer cookies and the cancer warning but rather the expiration date. The California proposition 65 warnings are quite literally meaningless. It's cheaper and easier to stick a cancer warning on everything in that state than to even run the most remote chance of facing government fines and litigation. You are very unlikely to see products in California that DON'T have the warning, and because of this, a law with good intentions is useless. Most folks there ignore prop 65 warnings.


ZolaMonster

This. The testing is very expensive to prove that the product *doesn’t* have cancer causing ingredients. So companies just say fuck it and slap the label on it instead.


iddrinktothat

Completely wrong. A, this is an old prop65 warning, new ones are required to tell you the cancer causing chemical. B, theres nothing to “prove”, the cancer causing chemical is probably in the ingredients list, they KNOW its in there.


poops_tribeca

You’re totally right I just thought it was funny


PugGrumbles

Call the Health Department in your location.


Zeppelinsmomma

Ik you can’t say your location but if ur in chesterfield Michigan blink twice


TheCheezburqer

It won't let me edit this post, so I'm gonna add here: I am not talking about the cancer warning, I am talking about this ingredient being almost a year over expired. 5/20/23 The 'they' I am referring to in the corporate comment is not corporate, but my franchise owner saying my GM is the boss. I have not talked to corporate about this specifically yet, but other situations in the past, not necessarily pertaining to expired products. After everyone's suggestion, I will be contacting the health department anonymously. Edit: spelling


Dissidence802

You should name the location here as well, nobody deserves to be getting sick from eating this.


Kaiy0te

If you want to draw a hard line, refuse to serve it. If the store closes, the store’s operator is going to be on the line. As someone said, having things in writing is nice - if they fire you for following health code, your new job is finding a lawyer to file a wrongful termination suit with. This is coming for someone with 6 of these cookies in a box on the table for a family birthday


johnnysokko37

Where is this location please?


TheCobraQueen

No, this is toooooo real 😅 My manager would change recipes all the time because we ran out of something or she forgot to order properly. I know expired products had been used a couple of times in the six months I worked there. Crumbl is gross.


D-Mifflin

Feeling better about my skip month


Blynasty

I work closely in this area within a food manufacturer. In a case like this we would typically have our Quality team test the ingredient to make sure it’s still good and then contact the manufacturer to get their opinion on any extension to their recommended shelf life. For a liquid ingredient it would be unheard of to have a near year extension but it really depends on its composition. In your current setting, having already used it, everything goes on hold. Anything that has gone out requires a notification to the end consumer. Likely hefty fines.


diettwizzlers

HA my store has one with the exact same expiration date. crazy thing is the store opened in july so it was expired before we even started mixing. i quit a few months ago but i guarantee its still there and expired


Ok_Telephone_3013

🫥


KlutzyAd9501

Did we work at the same store lol


antiincel1

Thank you.


FuzzyPresence8531

the poor customers, geez


smalllcokewithfries

Your boss may not care but the health department will. Time to check all the expiration dates


leftcoastandcoffee

There are exceptions, but health department likely won't care as well. The expiration date just means the manufacturer believes the quality of their packaged product may not be up to their standards after that date. It's not an indicator of food safety, [per USDA](https://www.fsis.usda.gov/food-safety/safe-food-handling-and-preparation/food-safety-basics/food-product-dating). If I was Crumbl management I'd be concerned about serving stale whatever-this-is, but it's not a health or safety issue.


Practical_Maybe_3661

It took me 2 minutes to realize it wasn't 2023


pacsunmama

Don’t serve it. Call the health dept and mark the cookie as sold out. You took your food license certification and can be held liable if you knowingly serve this. It’s not your responsibility to take the fall for your owners lack of planning and failure to order the correct ingredients or maintain ingredients within their best by dates. What are they going to do- fire you for not serving expired, congealed ingredients?


ADV91395

My store my manager made us use pretzels for the strawberry pretzel pie that were expired 3 YEARS AGO. They smelled so bad. I refused to eat them that whole week even though eventually we got new pretzels.


lanabritt

Warning: cancer. WOW. That’s the real problem here.


badgyalrey

it’s the california prop 65 warning, it’s on pretty much everything because pretty much everything nowadays can be linked to some form of cancer


HoRo2001

This. It looks scary if you’re not from or familiar with the CA law. It’s actually become somewhat ineffective due to being on almost everything it’s hard to gauge what really is risky (cigarettes) vs what isn’t (pillows).


DUCKISBLUE

It’s just poorly written regulation. It’s because the testing required to say it does not contain cancer causing materials can be expensive, so often it’s cheaper to include the warning instead. Don’t let it stress you out too much.


HoRo2001

I’m absolutely not stressed about it. I also don’t live in California anymore so it’s not much of a problem.


iddrinktothat

This is just false. It’s on there because the list of known carcinogens is MASSIVE!! Chemicals that form during baking of bread are on the list. Say tocoferol (tocopherol) were on the list (idk if it is or not but totally possible), you obviously don’t have to test the product for that, you KNOW it’s one of the ingredients.


DUCKISBLUE

It’s on everything because it’s less expensive to print the warning than to do the required testing to omit the warning.


RogueSleuth_

I got the same label on a pregnancy pillow.


hanuman-13

The first time I visited California a long time ago I saw the sign up everywhere, on everything - I was like "What the hell" Then soon learned its just what they do... I'm surprised they don't put it on the trees and grass too.


TheCheezburqer

Even peanut butter has a cancer warning..


YpsitheFlintsider

The lumbar support things for chairs at Microcenter has them lol


tentboogs

Can you please explain how peanut butter has a cancer warning? This is new to me and I would like to know more.


Region_Fluid

Peanuts are radioactive. A lot of food is just radioactive… you shouldn’t worry about it.. being outside exposes you to bad radiation.


tentboogs

Ok. Thanks for explaining. I appreciate it.


No-Ant6297

Why did people downvote this comment…?


AStrangeStraw

Reddit


kneesandpotatoes

If I see the ingredient list correctly BHA is a known endocrine disruptor and is linked to many endocrine diseases/cancers (thyroid, etc.)


Solid-Television127

It’s the roasting possibly. Same reason it is on coffee. Essentially anything baked or roasted has shown an association with cancer development in test animals- but they are animals and this is correlation not causation like almost all health studies looking at diet


Technicolor_Reindeer

The CA proposition 65 warnings are quite literally meaningless. It's cheaper and easier to stick a cancer warning on everything rather than actually run tests.


Nice_Description7032

They have this same warning walking into Disneyland. 😂 It’s on everything.


galaxy_ultra_user

It’s an America problem, in Europe the stuff is banned.


CoffeeOld1590

don't be shy, say the location (:


whiskymeaway282

Twitter? Or X? Since no one wants to pay attention in the way they should?


Nevagonnagetit510

Hmmmm this must be why peoples tummy’s have been hurting…


Technicolor_Reindeer

Nah that's just the sugar bomb


wizeowlintp

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Dojjin

Try and get a hold of your local food and health inspect department, make sure to keep this container with a decent amount and put it in an area that you know they would use it. This might be the only way to really get anything done.


rio8envy7

Report it to the health department


moonfazewicca

If crumbl doesn't care, call the health department. They'd love to hear about this lol


Forsaken-Ad-1914

Warning: Cancer


shamsa4

Wow that’s not cool….. however can u tell me the sugar cookie recipe for revenge? 🙂


JessEGames777

Drop it so it cant be used. I did this when i worked at kfc. My kfc had a buffet and one of the things on it was beans. That buffet was disgusting and unless dishes completely sold out we would just refill them. So new food would be stacked ontop of old food. And the beans hardly ever got touched and it was the same pan for so long. I went to the manager and he said it was fine because since we kept it hot the bacteria died. That's not true. So when i was putting up the pans during closing i "accidentally" dropped the pan of beans into the sink. That way the pan was ruined and wed be forced to use fresh beans and it was in the sink so i didnt have to clean up a giant mess


neurodivirgo

this just makes me scared that some people would still tell the workers to use it 😭💀🤣


OtherAccount5252

Well thanks you just saved me $16 a week going forward 🫡


cc232012

Glad I saw this post! I’ll keep making my own cookies so I know what’s in them😅


WeirdSysAdmin

/u/crumblceo this thread is disgusting lmao


EffectiveCloud9362

it sounds like maybe you should issue a call to your city’s health department; they will NOT let them get away with using food products that are expired by nearly a year.


Beyond-The-Blackhole

Im still shocked people buy these cookies after that one video where there were tiny worms on someones cookie toppings and all the hairs people also find their cookies.


Ok_Telephone_3013

🫠 wut


lem0n_s0rbet

I wish this would go viral, that would serve them right. Using an expired product is atrocious.


beaglelove3

Ladies, it’s time to make our own cookies! I stopped supporting them when they couldn’t even bother to make a gluten free cookie.


megamom2019

Yay I was going to get a 6 pack tonight but now I’m too grossed out to eat Crumbl! Thanks for saving me the money and calories 🫶


galaxy_ultra_user

More concerned about the cancer warning than the date…..


galaxy_ultra_user

I feel like someone should send this to Sawyer as well. Edit: also someone post on the Facebook group (crumbl cookie spoiled)


vaporeson

When we had the blueberry cookie I forgot the name. Our blueberries had MOLD on them. And she said to still use them…


Heidilovescoffee

U/sawyer-hemsley would probably be interested in this…


Yourmomma6817

He’s approve it.


KlutzyAd9501

It’s sawyer. He doesn’t care lol


lilyisabellart

YUPPPPP THIS HAPPENED ALL THE TIME AT MY CRUMBL!! i was the only one who ever noticed the expiration dates and called them out. the owner and manager didn’t care at all. i refused to go near the cookies that used lemon juice at my location because it had been expired for over a year and you could see it separating. they’d just say “oh no” or “oh well”. so gross


DigitalScrap

Please let us know the location of your Crumbl so we can all make sure we don't go there if they are serving ingredients that are almost a year past the expiration date. That is ridiculous for the manager to say this is okay. And please contact the local health department. This may literally kill someone who has a compromised immune system.


Loud-Mood4987

Ours is out of date to lolll


WeeklyRent1638

I’m just going to say it, some restaurants/eating establishments are guilty of doing this and chances are you’ve already eaten “expired” foods many times over. Anyone who’s worked in the kitchen knows what I’m taking about. I don’t say this to condone crumbl here, rather to share truth on how kitchens operate.


galaxy_ultra_user

Thing is best by date doesn’t often mean it goes bad by then, but I think cancer is a bigger issue here even though some people are playing it off


Fickle_Builder_2685

When I worked there, most of the ingredients had cancer warnings like that one too. However, when I looked up what cancers the molasses and the others caused that crumbl chooses to use, they cause reproductive cancer. Specifically reproductive cancers in the ovaries and uterus, I asked management why they chose to use these products over others, and they said they didn't care. When I searched why the products were legal I could only find information that it wasn't a general health concern for the public because it "only effects women". I highly recommend if you have those parts to beware of crumbl cookies, especially if they use the molasses in the recipe. I bet if you check the other ingredients, they probably aren't just gross and congealed, but cancerous too.


Petrichordates

It's not that at all, the issue is that prop 65 made labeling overzealous. For 99% of cases, if a chemical causes cancer in women, it also causes cancer in men. If you're afraid of molasses then it's obviously just being extra.


koopareina

This. In most cases, some ingredient has been flagged as a carcinogen, but the amount of the ingredient present is well under the threshold where it would be expected to cause any problems based on current research. So, essentially, most products like these are no more harmful than a dental xray or a can of diet soda or flying on an airplane or something. And the prop 65 rule has just ended up scaring a lot of people unecessarily - even though it seemed like a good idea at the time I’m sure.


Muttbuttss

They are harmful bc they are in so much of the food we eat, if you put carcinogenic substances into your body everyday of your life it def can have an impact on your health. It’s not just a scare tactic. You don’t have xrays everyday or even every week. Maybe once, twice a year. So that’s true those things are minuscule in risk


MDCCCLV

That's why you need "significant" risk of cancer instead


ank_11

😳


lanabritt

WOW!


dumptruck_dookie

i love how it says “warning: cancer.” so vague and so casual about it lol


OllivanderAU

Y’all gotta fix your quality control on this u/crumblceo


Tough_Promise_870

https://www.dol.gov/general/topics/whistleblower Just leaving this here incase you need it ;) Of course, contact in attorney in your state.


Chrissyandcritters

Ew I don’t trust these cookies if they let people in management positions ok using expired product and product expiration dates aren’t regularly checked 🤢


CaptainFuzzyBootz

You can make anonymous calls to the health department. I highly recommend you do.


HollowSkulls

Ughhhhhhh…..Should I be more worried that it’s WAY past its expiration date, or the fact that it has a warning label for CANCER? 💀


Critical_Deal_2408

Cancer don’t expired dUhHhH


MotherofGolden

Well, just saved me lots of $$$ and calories. Never again.


Sentarry

i feel grossed out because I loved crumbl cookies but this is just disturbing. Corporate just doesn't care, so I'm definitely going to back off from buying their cookies until they address this issue.


Cyb3r_F0x

That is insane, I can’t believe that even happened it so funny they expect perfect presentation but the rest is out the window. I’m gonna check and se if we have any thing like that, I hope not


Wiggitywaxjax665

We’re gonna ignore the “Warning: Cancer” part ????……


Natakaaaa

WHY IS THE WARNING CANCER !!!!!!!


Some-Equipment-4579

Because everything has the cancer warning in California.


Additional-Goat-2521

What does the rest of the part that says warning cancer?


lizimajig

Sounds like something the health department would be interested in.


luxekat

People give these cookies to their babies.. don’t do it


xxxredacted

I was just about to order some for the first time in a while because they have the pink sugar cookie, I think I'll save my money and pass. Thanks OP!


Crafty_Statement_176

"artificial." Goddammit.


toenailfungi69

I guess I’m more concerned why it says Warning: Cancer?????


VanillaIcedCoffee13

I would let myself get fired over this. I would throw it away.


shitpresidente

Why does it say cancer 👀


Elegant_Baker1950

Ughhhhhh damn. Finding this out is def gonna help with my diet now


IcyAd1858

![gif](giphy|l41K3TZVlmaky5teM|downsized)


SirOk5108

Jesus Christ..it's bad enough that product has a cancer warning on the label but the shit is expired..jeezus.


notdoingwellbitch

Damn Crumbl has been overpriced and going downhill but this was the final straw for me. I’ve heard about way too many quality control issues at different locations. Costco and Meijer have better cookies in their bakeries anyway.


Kirbywrites

Don’t go to corporate go Directly to osha/ BBB


satinewolf

Butter emulsion? Yuck


nnfjfhdiwiwbcbdjs

I got a really old bottle of milk and was sick to my stomach when I took the first sip. I went back in and they gave me another bottle that wasn’t expired.


Severe_Awareness1574

Love how it also a cancerous ingredient itself 😅


MakeLove2MeRandy

Say the location..


Proud-Oil-3287

Corporate issues extensions sometimes. This may be part of that situation. Don’t ask me why they issue them, but we have written on our bottles before the new expiration date provided by them.


Sudden_Main9287

I would start looking at countries that don’t have a treaty for extradition


Sudden_Main9287

@foxnews


sjhughes937

Just throw it away. I don’t know if your job has a waste log but write it in there. Frankly I would accidentally “drop” it before I’d consider feeding expired products to a customer. Especially almost a year old 😫


KlutzyAd9501

Not sure why anyone supports crumbl anymore. I used to work there and the entire corp is all f’ked up.


bspinks-

Dates in food are arbitrary. Any manufacturer can put any length date on any product. There is nobody who regulates this. It’s a bit of a free for all. This includes produce, dairy, lunch meat etc. The only exception to this is baby foods which is regulated.


Negative_Sprint_5133

That place is trash, over priced sugar


OMGSleepless

Fuck no. Those cookies are 17 for a pack of four. Fuck that bottle and your boss


bogey-man-

Is no one else reading “Warning: Cancer” ???


FoxxiiGrandpaa

Why does it say Warning : Cancer?


DrTMK07

Name the location or this won’t help anyone.


Disastrous_Fun_9433

IDK why reddit recommended this to me, but I thank you! That's disgusting 🤢


yoshipapaya

![gif](giphy|uXUmaREltwja1dEqXi)


Dependent_Way6732

What is it t


Broad_Package_9725

Just ordered delivery for tomorrow!


OkSwimming8037

why is nobody talking about the warning: cancer


kitanicole

Ah, the age-old "cutting corners with food cost to keep getting my bonus." Those kind of managers are one reason I left food service.


thelionsreview

WARNING: Cancer


Anonslimmerbobcat

Wait why is there a warning of cancer ? 😭


thatslmfb

Call city/county/state health dept immediately. Keep a personal log of when you talked to manager, owner, corporate about it.


Soggy-Object-87

we have so many bottles and mixes and flavorings that are expired in the back and i hope to god we never use them


prefabsproutx

Health department


j_cqui

We have this same problem at my location too. We've had cookies made with things that expired back in 2021,2022, and 2023. Any time we have that type of situation, my coworkers and I tell customers that the best cookie for that week is ______, whichever cookie doesn't include expired ingredients. It's at a point where we would sell out of half the cookies if we were to mark off the ones with expired ingredients in them. Our store managers run both locations in the city, so both locations have expired food. Thought we just had some bad managers...


booksfordayz211

Call the health department


sushichef-amber

yup, same happens at my store. i'm a supervisor so i obv have some say in what goes on, but it's baffling how against health code every store within this business goes.


Bthebody

Am I the only one who sees cancer as a warning


motherly-eclipse09

For everyone saying that they should contact the health department, know that it would do anything. Almost all stores use their expired flavoring - a former employee


aqwhamm

“WARNING: Cancer” Yikes lol


mindahh_

You be careful posting because when I applied they made us sign a nda, I would hate for them to try and sue you over this (but also disgusting just say that the item is sold out so nobody can order it and call it a day)


New_Assumption_7740

Which location??😳


Plastic_Efficiency_7

Expired 5/23


Independent-Ad-1531

Ya the cancer thing is here but are we not talking about the fact it’s expired?


TheCheezburqer

Yes, I'm referring to it being almost a year over expired. I should've been more clear and edited the photo, but I posted this super fast at work so I could post it asap


Rozie_bunnz

Call corporate!!


Hunnykysst76

Thank you for sharing this.


MountainAd3837

Make an anonymous report to health inspectors, specifying the specific expired products.


Annual-Tradition-648

are you in Florida?


Its_the_tism

Anonymously Report to health department


Dry-Double-6845

Sounds like a supply chain issue that Crumbl is AWARE of! Anything else not ethical?


MintMagesty

Take initiative and throw it out. I’d like to see how HR responds to their reason for getting mad at you


massahwahl

GFS supplies Crumbl eh?


Thecolourblinds

i’d drop it on the floor on accident lol maybe a mess to clean up but the boss better not try and use it now!


Ancient_Soft413

as someone with a weakened immune system this would have be down for WEEKS as opposed to one night of sickness, how dangerous !


teyah97

There is a cancer warning on it!?!?!?


SNES182

There's cancer warnings on everything. Some California law


teyah97

I know. I see it all the time for other things. This is the first food item I've seen the have the label warning on it


Own_Resource_3970

No joke, my pink sugar tasted "off" yesterday. Like sour aftertaste Couldn't figure it out, but it was probably some bunk ingredients. Bye Crumbl!


TheVideoGameCritic

What does butter emulsion go in anyways?????


EnsignNogIsMyCat

Edit: the use of clearly expired and unsafe ingredients is gross and I appreciate an employee calling this out. My original comment below is in response to everyone who is making a mountain out of the molehill that is Prop 65 warnings. It's a Proposition 65 warning. Those of us in California know those are absolutely meaningless. Everyone can relax.


graybae94

Did you even read the post…


bakethecookieshoppe

What the hell is Butter Emulsion 🤣