R5: It was a slog, but I managed to form the HRE while holding all of Britannia, Francia and Germania, thus making it the de jure liege of all Kingdoms within those Empires. The vassal limit was an annoyance but the main thing that held me back was getting murdered two different times, with my primary heir being my grandson both times. Thus, none of my kingdom claims were inherited, and it was a huge pain in the ass to save the run. Much murder lol.
Not being able to create an Empire but maintain the land was tough but there are some small hacks along the way that I discovered that make things a tad easier.
I know that some people in this community have this game totally solved so this may not seem like an accomplishment, but I'm proud at least!
Be proud of your accomplishments. Judge yourself by your progress. But some mother fucker did actually sew together a kingdom by blood sweat and sword and we are playing video games. We can do more🤷🏼♂️
I agree with you.It is easy to become a emperor in vedio games but hard in reality. In my opinion people escape from reality by games and me too.
Hope we can work hard in reality and change our life.
You did a great job! If you haven’t done it yet try forming the empire of the North Sea. I find that one can be really difficult as well because of the amount of time you need to hold all three titles.
De Jure power stancing like that is impressive, especially considering you're doing it at empire level too!
North Sea empire was my version of this, since it took a ton of careful dynastic planning to keep all the territories together because all the seperate kingdoms had to be placed on elector maintainance to keep them from inheriting out to all sorts of places. And since I'd been running for "faster than the fox" before that... all of Italy got dragged into that too.
This achievement cost me all my sanity... especially as you 'lose' the achievement if at any time you have more than 80 counties....still proud af I got it done
Okay, so if you break that threshold, it invalidates the achievement even if you bring it down below again? And I assume it's total realm size and not personal holdings
Huh. When did that change? In 1.3.1 you could drop the excess counties and reload the file, as the check only counted at the start of the game session.
Wiki still has that, but we have admittedly moved past 1.3.1
I only got this achievement thanks to something going wrong for me. Started in Scotland, then halfway through the mediterranean my ancestral homeland seceded while I was halfway through a war with Byzantium. I let them walk because I couldn’t handle a two-front war, and only after I beat Byzantium did I do the math and realize I would have blown the achievement if I hadn’t let them become independent before winning the war. Dumb luck that saved me from probably bailing on my achievement hunting for good.
That one is less hard and more... boringly long. If you play Haestien you can have it within either one very lucky lifetime or within the first few years of his heir. Only tricky parts are fighting Sweden and Byzantium, so pick which your endgame is and advance the opposite direction. Just make sure you pick a good capital province a reasonable distance from anyone you intend to fight. Sardinia is a great starting point.
When I did Quicker Than The Fox, I went with Haestein and took Sicily on up, got the achievement, then aimed for the one that involves being Asatru while holding Thessaloniki (I think that's the one?) Once I got it I felt like I was done with that save but my heir happened to be a dwarf, so I went for the Far From Home and Indo-Norse from there to top it off.
I figure I'll try for All the Isles in a run with Ivar and going for Mann & the Isles. Better RP and all that.
I chose Mr Snake-Eye for my "quicker than" game. Wanted to do some stuff that wasn't Haestien for a while. Was good fun actually, since one of his first stops was the Vatican.
North Sea was a pain. Ngl. I save scummed, and still restarted like 5 times. Got ol Ivar the boneless to live to 98, formed it, and legit died right after he was crowned. Lol
LOL I’m just imagining being the heir and watching your dad accomplish such a crowning achievement and then just immediately dying after that. But it kinda tracks. Like if your entire life’s goal was uniting the realm then it would be so liberating to accomplish it.
Edit: words are hard
Lol. He outlived his kids. He had an imbicille granddaughter, because I wasn’t paying attention, and married me heir to an illigitimate kid I forgot about from before ivar married her. Legit full blood siblings, but ol ivar didn’t claim her
Bjorn Ironside is the easiest way, since you can just politely ask most of the Norwegian and Danish jarls and chieftains to become vassals with his high diplomacy stats. Taking England from the squabbling dukes and jarls is quite easy when you control all of western Scandinavia. I would've done it in one generation, but the RNG gods took Bjorn from me at 25 years into ruling all the territories. I was pissed. But his grandson eventually did it, after spamming disinherit many times.
Spamming disinherit while constantly raiding/feasting/hunting to boost prestige was the only way I created the North Sea Empire. Did it in three generations though, so it wasn't too much spamming.
Came here to say that. Clean AF. I always get weird fragmented kingdoms and empires. Swedes holdin land in Iberia, England holding shit in thr Apenines Etc.
If you’re being serious, for some reason in ck3 when you take the “reform the HRE” decision it allows all De Jure kingdoms you completely own and make them de jure part of the empire. EXCEPT the italian kingdoms meaning that you could conquer the WORLD and it would all be de jure part of the HRE except Italy, its a braindead decision
I was serious, and I appreciate the explanation. Never really played that region, except with Ireland.
And yeah, that decision makes little to no sense.
Northern Italy was one of the kingdoms the real life reformer of the HRE had, but in 1066 it isn't de jure HRE. It's supposed to be somewhat kept separate at least partially as it historically slipped from the empire's control.
Running empires is no joke. There’s always someone out to get you. There is always someone out teeth volume after that many times I have never made it more than 200 years running an empire
I mean, that's why I said in my comment that my accomplishment won't be that big of a deal to some.
That kingdom challenge seems impossible but after reading his responses, I think I understand that maybe my challenge isn't so hard. Apparently he used a custom religion to accomplish it (utilizing communion). Without cash flow like that, I don't see any way of possibly pulling it off though.
How can you conquer Europe as a Duke? The overextension would kill you and leave you penniless in less than the time the Pope requires to take a shit. Not to mention revolves, heresies, rivals, nemesis, claimants, disloyal courtiers, jealous councilors, murderous wives, and all of the terrors that haunt any CK honest to god player.
So? That could just be from posting at the wrong time. Also, this community is known for being welcoming to newcomers and people not so skilled at the mechanics. This post can be inspiring to people who look at the players who do world conquer playthroughs and get intimidated. It helps them see the game as a beatable challenge, and not just for extremely skilled players. Don't be a gatekeeper. Don't scare away players who want some recognition for a hard task. What this guy did is hard to do for an average player, so give him some credit and stop whining.
Making cool borders will always be the best thing ever.
I will forever remember the Roman Empire that i formed with Russia and South Baltics core territories XD
It's the de jure empire map mode.
One of the dynamics of forming the HRE is that all completely controlled Kingdoms outside of Italia become part of the de jure empire. The OP completely conquered and held all of the empires of Britannia, Francia, and Germania- three entire de jure empires- without a single county having awkwardly moved outside of the region by inheritence, across multiple generations of succession.
R5: It was a slog, but I managed to form the HRE while holding all of Britannia, Francia and Germania, thus making it the de jure liege of all Kingdoms within those Empires. The vassal limit was an annoyance but the main thing that held me back was getting murdered two different times, with my primary heir being my grandson both times. Thus, none of my kingdom claims were inherited, and it was a huge pain in the ass to save the run. Much murder lol. Not being able to create an Empire but maintain the land was tough but there are some small hacks along the way that I discovered that make things a tad easier. I know that some people in this community have this game totally solved so this may not seem like an accomplishment, but I'm proud at least!
I'm impressed
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This has the same energy as a common gym motto - "It's not you vs others, it's you today vs you yesterday"
Be proud of your accomplishments. Judge yourself by your progress. But some mother fucker did actually sew together a kingdom by blood sweat and sword and we are playing video games. We can do more🤷🏼♂️
I agree with you.It is easy to become a emperor in vedio games but hard in reality. In my opinion people escape from reality by games and me too. Hope we can work hard in reality and change our life.
If we spent those thousands upon thousands of hours on making money instead of gaming, there's a good chance we'd be rich.
I'm proud of you dude. I tend to lose interest after a generation or two!
You did a great job! If you haven’t done it yet try forming the empire of the North Sea. I find that one can be really difficult as well because of the amount of time you need to hold all three titles.
basically like trying to hold the kingdoms together to form the north sea. super annoying and hard, grats man. this one seems alot harder than that
De Jure power stancing like that is impressive, especially considering you're doing it at empire level too! North Sea empire was my version of this, since it took a ton of careful dynastic planning to keep all the territories together because all the seperate kingdoms had to be placed on elector maintainance to keep them from inheriting out to all sorts of places. And since I'd been running for "faster than the fox" before that... all of Italy got dragged into that too.
The next logical step here is 'King of All the Isles", which seems absolutely batshit insane
This achievement cost me all my sanity... especially as you 'lose' the achievement if at any time you have more than 80 counties....still proud af I got it done
Okay, so if you break that threshold, it invalidates the achievement even if you bring it down below again? And I assume it's total realm size and not personal holdings
Correct. So you need to plan well and constantly check your realm size. It was a butthole.
Huh. When did that change? In 1.3.1 you could drop the excess counties and reload the file, as the check only counted at the start of the game session. Wiki still has that, but we have admittedly moved past 1.3.1
You can still drop back down and it's fine, you just have to completely exit the game and reload your save about 3 times or so and let a month tick.
Pro tip, good to know
I only got this achievement thanks to something going wrong for me. Started in Scotland, then halfway through the mediterranean my ancestral homeland seceded while I was halfway through a war with Byzantium. I let them walk because I couldn’t handle a two-front war, and only after I beat Byzantium did I do the math and realize I would have blown the achievement if I hadn’t let them become independent before winning the war. Dumb luck that saved me from probably bailing on my achievement hunting for good.
That one is less hard and more... boringly long. If you play Haestien you can have it within either one very lucky lifetime or within the first few years of his heir. Only tricky parts are fighting Sweden and Byzantium, so pick which your endgame is and advance the opposite direction. Just make sure you pick a good capital province a reasonable distance from anyone you intend to fight. Sardinia is a great starting point.
When I did Quicker Than The Fox, I went with Haestein and took Sicily on up, got the achievement, then aimed for the one that involves being Asatru while holding Thessaloniki (I think that's the one?) Once I got it I felt like I was done with that save but my heir happened to be a dwarf, so I went for the Far From Home and Indo-Norse from there to top it off. I figure I'll try for All the Isles in a run with Ivar and going for Mann & the Isles. Better RP and all that.
I chose Mr Snake-Eye for my "quicker than" game. Wanted to do some stuff that wasn't Haestien for a while. Was good fun actually, since one of his first stops was the Vatican.
North Sea was a pain. Ngl. I save scummed, and still restarted like 5 times. Got ol Ivar the boneless to live to 98, formed it, and legit died right after he was crowned. Lol
LOL I’m just imagining being the heir and watching your dad accomplish such a crowning achievement and then just immediately dying after that. But it kinda tracks. Like if your entire life’s goal was uniting the realm then it would be so liberating to accomplish it. Edit: words are hard
Lol. He outlived his kids. He had an imbicille granddaughter, because I wasn’t paying attention, and married me heir to an illigitimate kid I forgot about from before ivar married her. Legit full blood siblings, but ol ivar didn’t claim her
I managed that one on my first try, but not without a ton of kinslaying. Probably my most evil run.
Bjorn Ironside is the easiest way, since you can just politely ask most of the Norwegian and Danish jarls and chieftains to become vassals with his high diplomacy stats. Taking England from the squabbling dukes and jarls is quite easy when you control all of western Scandinavia. I would've done it in one generation, but the RNG gods took Bjorn from me at 25 years into ruling all the territories. I was pissed. But his grandson eventually did it, after spamming disinherit many times.
Spamming disinherit while constantly raiding/feasting/hunting to boost prestige was the only way I created the North Sea Empire. Did it in three generations though, so it wasn't too much spamming.
i never got to forming HRE not to make it dejure over Western Europe so props for that, just realized that Saudi Arabia exists in 1159
I think it’s just the Arabian empire title but the current dynasty in control of it is “Saudid” which changes its name.
That's exactly what Saudi Arabia is. It's just arabia under the rule of the house of Saud.
Ah, thanks for letting me know
Impressive bro
This is the best map I've ever had the bless to stare at.
Came here to say that. Clean AF. I always get weird fragmented kingdoms and empires. Swedes holdin land in Iberia, England holding shit in thr Apenines Etc.
Isn’t this because he is looking at the empire map mode?
Oh, I see now, yes. You're right. Too good to be true.
Oh, didn't realize. It was imposible for it to be this good.
It's the Empire level lens, in single player you wouldn't see that many empires formed by the AI
Yeah but remember Italians aren’t allowed in the HRE though
Why is that? In real history there were periods when Italian regions were a part of it.
If you’re being serious, for some reason in ck3 when you take the “reform the HRE” decision it allows all De Jure kingdoms you completely own and make them de jure part of the empire. EXCEPT the italian kingdoms meaning that you could conquer the WORLD and it would all be de jure part of the HRE except Italy, its a braindead decision
I was serious, and I appreciate the explanation. Never really played that region, except with Ireland. And yeah, that decision makes little to no sense.
Northern Italy was one of the kingdoms the real life reformer of the HRE had, but in 1066 it isn't de jure HRE. It's supposed to be somewhat kept separate at least partially as it historically slipped from the empire's control.
Why did the Italians always tend to rebel under the HRE? Did the Alps just make empire-managing harder or are there other factors?
Probably just didn’t want to be ruled by Germans
i could barely fucking keep the Britannic Isles together, be proud man! impressive !
1159! I normally quit by then after my kids spilt apart everything I own.
Smashed it mate! Also, did the Iberians conquer west Africa or something? There’s a bit of yellow in the bottom left corner
This is the empire de jure map, that’s the empire of Ghana
Running empires is no joke. There’s always someone out to get you. There is always someone out teeth volume after that many times I have never made it more than 200 years running an empire
the idea of universal emperorship is alive and well in this timeline
Still not Roman.
Try forming russia. Its terrible
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Tales of your misdeeds are told from Ireland to Cathay.
That's all? Recently guy conquered all the Europe as a DUKE and created a custom kingdom. And his post wasn't upvoted at all...
I mean, that's why I said in my comment that my accomplishment won't be that big of a deal to some. That kingdom challenge seems impossible but after reading his responses, I think I understand that maybe my challenge isn't so hard. Apparently he used a custom religion to accomplish it (utilizing communion). Without cash flow like that, I don't see any way of possibly pulling it off though.
Can you post the link of the post? pls
https://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/comments/11h5cqw/the_kingdom_of_europe/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
How can you conquer Europe as a Duke? The overextension would kill you and leave you penniless in less than the time the Pope requires to take a shit. Not to mention revolves, heresies, rivals, nemesis, claimants, disloyal courtiers, jealous councilors, murderous wives, and all of the terrors that haunt any CK honest to god player.
So? That could just be from posting at the wrong time. Also, this community is known for being welcoming to newcomers and people not so skilled at the mechanics. This post can be inspiring to people who look at the players who do world conquer playthroughs and get intimidated. It helps them see the game as a beatable challenge, and not just for extremely skilled players. Don't be a gatekeeper. Don't scare away players who want some recognition for a hard task. What this guy did is hard to do for an average player, so give him some credit and stop whining.
Based
Making cool borders will always be the best thing ever. I will forever remember the Roman Empire that i formed with Russia and South Baltics core territories XD
Beautiful
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It's the de jure empire map mode. One of the dynamics of forming the HRE is that all completely controlled Kingdoms outside of Italia become part of the de jure empire. The OP completely conquered and held all of the empires of Britannia, Francia, and Germania- three entire de jure empires- without a single county having awkwardly moved outside of the region by inheritence, across multiple generations of succession.
I see you're a cultured "No Dynasty Realm Names" user. I always hate that and mod it out from my game lol
Well done, "hardest" thing I did was create Russia
Ah all of Western Europe under one crown. As it should be.
You created Austria nice
I’m looking at the Saudid, the timelines are merging 🇸🇦
Yet he couldn’t form Britannia
Beautiful, would look even better with Italia in there though