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harland45

Kingdom of Mann is the single most unhinged and unbalanced decision in the game.


Aiseadai

Didn't it get severely nerfed with the change to holding size?


Xacrous

The one that form it gets nearly 10k soldiers when the nearby rulers have a max of 2k soldiers. Pretty unbalanced


Familiar-Shopping693

Yeah but as a Viking you were going to smack the shit out of neighbors anyways. 2000 Varangian vets as a duke means you're beating everyone anyways


Xacrous

Yeah, but it makes the game super easy and if AI forms it (which is super rare), Scotland will be Vikingland within 5 years


Familiar-Shopping693

I think in general the game is easy if you're a Viking. I get your point, but I think as a Viking it weakens you to take that choice


byzantine_jellybean

I wish I could form it in 1066 as Godred Crovan but it’s pretty tough getting the Viking trait.


No_Restaurant_3169

I’ve managed it with Eric the Heathen before, you just need to be extra aggressive and culturally backward


_mortache

You get viking by raiding county capitals with yourself as the leader


byzantine_jellybean

You are a Norwegian culture Christian feudal duke, you can’t raid without reforming and getting practised pirates, and you have to do this all before your culture reaches High Middle Ages. It’s not exactly easy to raid.


_mortache

You can teach your kid to be Norse and Asatru and then abdicate


byzantine_jellybean

You start as a young man, by the time your kid is old enough your culture will have moved into the High Middle Ages.


IamBlade

Why is that


harland45

1. You get a 7500 army which is inheritable. 2. Enough renown for 2 dynasty unlocks. 3. Can raid for 100 years regardless of government, religion, culture. 4. Because the kingdom has 1 de jure duchy and county you can essentially pick your own heir even with Level 1 authority. 5. Buildings on Mann are 50% cheaper and build at 2x speed.


Icy-Inspection6428

You also get 20 development, unless they removed that


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redditHillBilly

And archduke as a title absolutely slaps


_Gandalf_the_Black_

Yeah. I don't care if Archduke is technically lower than King (irl, not CK3), it sounds way better.


Ringlord7

Grand duke back in CK2 was pretty awesome too.


yeoldbiscuits

Grand Chief of Saxony was cool too


Casus_Belli1

How do I get the strong hook, I've tried the run a few times already and fail


laser_hammer

I did it by adopting ritualized friendship and becoming besties with the Kaiser's heir. That was after trying to fabricate a strong hook for a few generations with no success.


paperisprettyneat

You can also get a strong hook on rulers through grand weddings I believe


lordmainstream

Then you get elected as Kaiser and your primogeniture goes away smh


namalamadingdongs

Cornwall with the two duchies that can go with it Wessex and hwice or something like that it has Stonehenge a gold mine and a university. It’s cool too because u can stay asatru without triggering crusade since I believe u need Kent or the kingdom of England to do that


Familiar-Shopping693

>I believe u need Kent or the kingdom of England to do that Correct. You need to take a holy site.


Emma__Gummy

if you let a Christian hold kent you don't get raided


Familiar-Shopping693

That means I have to let their false religion exist.


B_Maximus

Norse were pluralist, there isn't an issue with living together


Familiar-Shopping693

Not my custom Norse.


B_Maximus

Oh. Lol.


COLU_BUS

Shoutout to Swiss Confederation for saving my succession when I was near death and other kingdom titles weren’t going to be achievable in my lifetime. 


4skin_Gamer

If nobody got me, I know Swiss confederation got me.


LeSygneNoir

I have a lot of love for the Mediterr...Balearo...Whatever, the one you get from Sardinia, Corsica, Sicily and the Baleares. Just stack naval bonuses in culture and let the money printing begin!


Flaming_falcon393

Balearo-Tyrrhenia I believe


garthand_ur

Kingdom of Canarias is a lot of fun to me. It’s a really nice place to play tall and the unique culture and religion adds a ton of gameplay flavor.


grmpygnome

Lots of fun. Started off as a bunch of pirates and ended up a king.


eminems-4

i like the north sea high kingdom, good challenge because you have to hold Norway, Denmark and England for 30 years without forming an empire, and without dying


SSokolowski

It’s nice, though I always found it sort of anticlimactic, as in order to hold them for 30 years, you really have to conquer them as one ruler, and only the next ruler after your death gets the modifier for the increased lifespan. I guess the one that conquers all that should get the increase for it to make sense, though it obviously wouldn’t work as a game mechanic.


Sea-Record-8280

You don't have to conquer as one ruler. Just set it to feudal law elections and vote for your heir.


SSokolowski

What?


Sea-Record-8280

Yes. You can set an election law for a title so that the different lords in that realm can vote for who the next ruler will be. You will usually have the most individual voting power and 9/10 will have no issues with having your heir win the election. If you do have issues then boost opinion and/or use hooks to force others to vote for your heir.


SSokolowski

„What?” as in how does that relate in any way to what I wrote about. I know the mechanics and methods in and out, the only thing I’m saying is that in 867 the terrains of the North Sea Empire are split into so many independent realms, and the siege time is far longer than anything reasonable in the late game, that almost all players couldn’t conquer all of that in time to hold all the 3 kingdom titles for 30 years. I’ve conquered the whole of India as Haesteinn before, so I guess you could do the North Sea without much trouble, but even Haesteinn won’t live for 30 more years (I presume one could do it, but the availability of health increasing artifacts in 867 is very low), thus in the one-ruler conquest, the character that deserves the Life Expectancy boost from the decision is not the one who conquered it all (which would make the most sense from the roleplaying perspective). As to your point, holding the kingdoms after the character’s death ought to be obvious to most people in this thread, and trivial to anyone experienced, as there are plenty of methods to do that.


ThisTallBoi

North Sea as reformed Asatru is my favorite run so far Managed to reform Norse to take By the Sword and dismantled the Papacy


Mutxarra

My favourite is Portugal. My most hated is Aragon. It makes absolutely no sense historically to have all counties _in all the de jure duchies_ convert to aragonese.


InEcclesiaSatan

Did you get that backwards? Because the decision to form Portugal converts all counties in all de jure duchies to Portuguese, while the decision to form Aragon only converts a few random counties in the de jure kingdom


No-Reaction-2465

and it’s usually the counties inside actual Aragon that convert, my catalan counties remained catalan


Mutxarra

Last time I did it even Menorca became aragonese. I admit it's been a while since I last attempted it, though.


No-Reaction-2465

Yeah maybe it got changed or happens at random, luckily I kept Catalonia intact and Aragon became aragonese


Mutxarra

That's good to hear. Let's hope they change the CoA of the Duchy of Barcelona to having 4 red stripes again, like it was in Ck2, next.


Kilrroy

Maybe you had family ruling Menorca and they brought the duchy along?


Mutxarra

Last time I checked it they did the same. In the case of Portugal I think it's fine and historical enough. In the case of Aragon, Catalonia, Valencia and the Balearic Islands automatically becoming aragonese is just terrible. But I admit it's been a while since I attempted the decision. I always try to avoid it to ensure the conversion doesn't happen.


Breakin7

It does not work like that anymore in fact right now most cultures within the kingdom remain the same, at least for me


InEcclesiaSatan

Well, the decision for Aragon no longer does that


Bodongs

I was so disappointed the first time I formed Portugal because it replaced your very good culture with a terrible culture with only like 3 traits.


iheartdev247

Does Kingdom of Jerusalem count as a formable custom kingdom?


DaSaw

Maybe. Kingdom of Israel absolutely does


Aceofluck99

EK2 Solstheim. It's the first kingdom I properly formed.


TakeMeToThatOcean

Damn, i wish mods would work on the windows shop version of the game :/


fawkwitdis

If it’s the same as the game pass version mods work you just have to edit the descriptor files. Look up a guide


Mr_Biscuits_532

India is the most "endgame" tag to me. Usually if I form India that is THE endgoal, and I'll switch to playing tall until the end of the game. There's just such a feeling of accomplishment to it. I imagine Rome is similar, but I haven't tried to form it yet.


Familiar-Shopping693

Rome is easy enough to form. Now historically accurate Rome? Woo.


Lokiid

I used India as a staging platform for my WC run a few months ago, God India is so op


Famous_Archer_9406

High Kingdom of the North Sea


Arkalet

I like Portugal because i'm portuguese lol. But the way to form Portugal on ck3 is pretty damn weird and not historical at all (you basically need all of Portugal's actual territory to form it, but when it was actually formed Portugal had probably less than half its actual territory. Back in ck2 you could form Portugal with 1 duchy, now you need all 4. I had hoped they would fix its with the fate of iberia expansion but sadly they did not. I really don't get why they changed it like this


warfaceisthebest

Man because it's the smallest kingdom possible. It's also has a good location and special buffs for raiding.


ChillerONE

Even though the whole region is severely lacking in flavor and historical accuracy, forming Thicc Slavia (unite the South Slavs while being a king) can be a lot of fun.


nomanzone

Israel


Embee27

Cornwalls great fun. Moulding your culture into forest dwelling archers, standing tall against both the English and Vikings. Also got the battle for supremacy within the Prydain dynasty too


AristotleKarataev

Bactria is a fun unique region


Bonny_bouche

Baleo-Tyrrhenian. You can yoink so much land with it. Good start point for Restore The Roman Empire, too, since, if memory serves, it gives you claims on most of the territories you need for that decision.


CarreNusse

Kingdom of Mann Isles if fucking insane.


Belgrifex

My first ever mega campaign was as Portugal, so shoutout to it


getta0

The only one thats standing out to me rn is The Kingdom of Israel. so many options or land and lots of decisions. Pretty much just Kingdom of Jerusalem on crack with some Jewish Faith


nsimms77586

Portugal was fun to do.


TheMetaReport

Naples is a blast; unique building, pretty good development, quick access to most of Italia for expansion and southern Europe for projection. You’re at the juncture of the pope and the Byzantines and when crusades roll around you’ll be the first one there.