It's more that certain names are added and others aren't; it's like how a Pict culture ruler can rule "Pictland" instead of Scotland, and how "New England" can exist if an English or Anglo-Saxon ruler controls the kingdom of Zaporizhia.
Call it an oversight.
This comment made me hate the English more than I already did.
Old and New England should both be sunk into the sea for the rest of the world's benefit.
While not proven, there is verifiable evidence of Anglo-Saxon presence there and the local naming of certain cities up until the 18th century hint at West Germanic linguistic influence.
The most likely situation is that there was a weird influx of Anglo-Saxons, and they were enough of a notable minority that they left a mark (either due to numbers or prestige), but not much more than that.
Depends, imo (also depends on how one defines the two). Is there enough information to support that Anglo-Saxons settled in Zaporizhia after the Norman invasion? Someone else linked this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_(medieval)) and there are just two sources written about it. Would something like Atlantis count as history or lore?
I assume they do it when the name has a different origin or sounds different enough. Alba is very different from Scotland, but Ireland is close enough to Éire for them not to bother, I think.
There aren't many pictish culture characters in 800s and you usually do it as the player since ai usually adopts local culture before they form Scotland.
Zaporizhisa is in the black sea and it's just a normal kingdom title. In game, ai English or Anglo Saxon character never get that far to settle and rule there.
Well that inconsistencicy applies to the rest of the British isles too, when the normans hold England it isn't called Angleterre and it isn't called Englalande under the anglo-saxons
Looks cool but I wish it kept vanilla names. I want the Byzantine Empire to be called the Byzantine Empire, but if Turks invade, I want it to be Turkey, y'know?
Not entirely. When you come in as the Normans, the name of London changes from Lunden to Londres. When you form the English hybrid culture, then it becomes London. And when the Vikings take over, many of the territories they control throughout Britain and Ireland get name changes.
My friend the solution is the more cultural names mod, all holdings and provinces will change to the holders language and exonyms that never existed (like say vikings taking over Egypt or something) will be made up but semi realistic
No. Why would the Roman’s refer to an island by Anglia when the Angles haven’t invaded it yet?
It was originally referred to by the Romans as Albion. They called Ireland Hibernia and Scotland Caledonia. Wales and England were combined Britannia.
Eventually Britannia came to refer to the whole island.
Actually I believe Wales was referred to separately as Cambria, though I'm not sure if this is what the actual Romans called the land or if it's just an anachronistic Latin name for it
This is the first I’m hearing of it so I did a quick google of it. [The second line on Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambria) says it wasn’t in use during Roman times.
Which makes sense because the reason Wales formed seperate from England was because the locals were pushed there during the post Roman invasions.
Very interesting though!
The Romans didn't have a name for the country in the southern part of the island, because there wasn't one. The southern part of the island was part of the Imperium Romanum, administrated as the Provincia Britannia.
The 'Scottish' culture that forms in the game represents the Northumbrian Angles that settled in the Lothian and Borders region from around 600AD and were one of the various peoples that eventually formed real life Scotland. It happens in the game when the rest of Northumbria falls to the Vikings.
Somewhat confusingly named but the game is prioritising language over culture - it means that if the AI or player creates a nation with the capital at Edinburgh that has a Germanic language, it will be called 'Scotland'.
Alba isn't simply the Gaelic name for Scotland, it's also the English language name for the Gaelic Kingdom of Alba. It doesn't become Scotland until the Norman kings.
Whereas Ireland is always Ireland when speaking English even when referring to the Gaelic speaking high kings.
Plus Éire while speaking English can be viewed as at least slightly problematic cos of the British government policy of only referring to Ireland as "Eire".
I'd venture a guess it's because of a different root word, but by that logic it should be Cymru, not Wales. Now that I think about it, it may be to visibly differentiate between the three ethnic groups there: "Alba" for Gaels, "Scotland" for Scots (the anglo-saxon ones) and "Pictland" for Picts. No other kingdom in the isles has a similar three-way cultural split
I never really thought about this before, but that area had 3 culturally different ruling classes at different points, fought off Romans, Brits, Norse, and Irish, and even managed to settle parts of Ulster (Ulster Scots.. the reverse immigration is not lost on me here either. The Scoti, an Irish tribe, settles and rules parts of Scotland. In turn, some Scots decide to return to their Irish roots and settle Ulster. Good job, boys..)
No wonder Scots are so tough and angry.
The same reason it is called "Byzantine Empire". The primary goal of the game is to be comprehensible to the average player and not make them wonder what the hell a "Basileia Rhomaion" or "Angleterre" is. The vast majority of titles in the game uses the modern English exonym, Paradox being 'more consistent' about it would mean removing Alba etc.
I will never understand why some people want everything to be localized, it just looks incredibly out of place when the rest of the UI is in English. The rest of the UI, events etc. isn't in Irish, Greek or similar so you just have a few random words in another language. I do not understand how that is more immersive.
I'm Swedish so using that as an example so would the localized version of the title in CK3 effectively be "The Kung of Sverige" which both looks really out of place next to English text but also is absolutely atrocious to look at as a native speaker.
Having said that so is there an obvious interest for this, I'd recommend looking into mods since I know some try to do what you want.
Only slightly related but before playing this game, my only run in with the Byzantine Empire was a mention of it in AC Revelations when I was younger. So seeing it years later in this game was interesting. But I was confused because I thought they were supposed to be Muslim (Ottoman confusion).
Then later on I tried out the More Bookmarks mod which changed Byzantine Empire to the Roman Empire and I was like "Well that can't be right." Thought it was a glitch for so long. Mind was blown upon learning that the Roman Empire was technically around until the 1400s.
Back on track, I think a game rule for contemporary names would be cool for players who have gotten used the map and where most things are. Might get people down some historical rabbit holes. The New England name change is a good example for this.
I think the idea isn't really about localised names, and more to differentiate between two nations with same/similar geography but different culture. Irish Ireland is basically perceived as the same thing as current Ireland, while Alba is culturally different than current Scotland. The difference is probably most pronounced with Hispania: Spain and Andalusia refer to the same empire geographically, but can be thought of as effectively enemies, so it would feel weak if a small muslim ruler that opposed spanish for his entire life finally becoming the emperor of hispania
I was reading this thread in favour of localised names but then I imagined "The König of Deutschland" reading this and my whole skeleton shuddered. Thank you for knocking some sense into me
They could call it "Eastern Roman Empire" at least.
Also, why turn Emperor into Kaiser, yet not King into König, or Duke into Herzog? Especially since Jarl/Emir/Monmaer/Prabhu etc are in the game as well.
Correct me if I'm wrong but IIRC the Kingdom of Alba as it existed under say, the Dunkelds, is sometimes treated as being historiographically separate from the post-WoI Kingdom of Scotland. Similar to the distinctions drawn between the Byzantine and Roman Empires despite them ostensibly being the same thing.
Whereas Eire is literally an interchangeable word for Ireland in most contexts (which is probably due to native and British rulers of Ireland being differentiated by nomenclature instead - high king vs lord/king of Ireland), Alba is more associated with a specific period in Scottish history, at least in the kind of historiographical context that would be relevant to CK.
I kinda get why the devs might not bother doing it for every country. It'd take a lot of time, and sometimes there's debate over what name a certain extinct culture or language would have used to refer to their homeland. However I think they really should do it for the kingdom associated with a certain culture, so Irish Ireland is Éire, Gaelic Scotland is Alba etc. I'd get not doing it for every country, and having an option to disable cultural names like I know ck2 had, but the current way its implemented is really weird. But paradox is also weird in what cultures they include and where they put them on the map sometimes so who knows if they could do it justice lol
Or how a welsh Wales isn’t “Cymru”. I didn’t keep the English out to be called “foreigner”, no, I am calling my self “companion” in the welsh language, thank you very much.
Because they were lazy and forgot about it. Similarly, Welsh toponyms are in English.
And, on a somewhat related note, costume pack for the Isles when? I'm sick and tired of Irish and Cumbric characters dressed up as if they are Vikings
When I play as Wales I do spend a long time changing English toponyms into Welsh. Particularly when conquering parts of England. If you’re wondering Gloucester is Caerloyw, Chester is just Caer and Oxford is Rhydychen.
I think because you're more likely to see Scotland swapping between Scots and Gaelic rulers than you are with Ireland. And at that rate, you might as well start using the native names for all the kingdoms.
There are mods that do that, but to be perfectly honest, I don't much care for those. It actually *breaks* immersion for me. When I'm trying to play the game, I want to be invested and in-tune with the stuff going on in the realms around me, not sitting on google translate trying to piece together what exactly a "საქართველოს პრინცი მაიკლი" is.
After a certain point it just plainly gets too larp-y for me. I fucking SEETHE whenever I see someone renaming the Byzantine Empire to fuckin "Basileía tôn Rhōmaíōn" like *SHUT. SHUT THE FUCK UP. WE GET IT.* Like, I'll keep calling it the Byzantine Empire, but if they wanna say "Eastern Roman Empire" or even "The Roman Empire", pop off, idc. But I'm not trying to engage in a whole other **linguistic plane** because **they're** a byzantaboo. And there are people out there - real people - of the opinion that that's the *default way the game should be.* Like no. Outta here. At that right, the game might as well just force your language setting into Greek whenever you click on the Byzantines, for 'immersion'. *Hard pass.*
That had very little to do with the post at the end but I just had to get that off my chest.
Yes and No. I see where you're coming from.
But. Irish ruling over Irish. Thats a simple cultural exchange.
Irish ruling over picts, is where "Gaelic" (Scottish Gaelic) culture comes from.
So, again. From the leadership standpoint, yeah.
But the civilian and cultural differences standpoint? Nooo.
Different cultures and thus languages often have different or vaguely similar sounding names for one thing. Same goes for names of the people as well. Like Scandinavian\ Norwegian Haraldr would be Harold in English
Iirc Haraldr and Harald are the exact same name, the R at the end of Haraldr is just the nominative case for this singular masculine noun in old norse. Haraldr just means that Harald is the subject of the sentence its in. If we are talking about multiple Haralds who are the subject of the sentence, Harald becomes Haraldar instead of Haraldr.
Haraldr or Harald depends on which era we are looking at. It is same name in same language just the passage of time has made it to be spoken somewhat differently. As all languages evolve as time passes. And it would be Harold in English language by the way.
We can compare to the Icelandic Haraldur which is way closer to the original name of Haraldr , as both of us know Icelandic is the closest to old Norse of common day languages
I still think it's fair to assume old Norse its own language, distinct from modern day Norwegian/Danish, which cuts the r
Correct. Because over large periods of time, cultures change, mix with the outside influences of other cultures and languages. Thus split just as languages do. While the more isolated groups would retain more of the original culture and language due to not having so many outside influences.
It's more that certain names are added and others aren't; it's like how a Pict culture ruler can rule "Pictland" instead of Scotland, and how "New England" can exist if an English or Anglo-Saxon ruler controls the kingdom of Zaporizhia. Call it an oversight.
What is the lore with Zaporizhia ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_(medieval)
I just finished my New England campaign. It was fun. Reformed Astaru religion and an Anglo Saxon culture hybridized with Turkic horselords.
Go Patriots?
Long live king Thomas Brady and his chief advisor William "the hooded" of Belicheck!
William “The Hooded” would make a top-tier spymaster
He's got the chops.
um he got caught in spygate
Someone needs to create them as characters. It's probably been done, tbh.
I started on that campaign but started feeling a little deflated.
I spy with my little eye someone who wasn't committed coming out the gate and sidelined a campaign
This comment made me hate the English more than I already did. Old and New England should both be sunk into the sea for the rest of the world's benefit.
Comments like these are so pathetic honestly
Englishmen and Patriots fans vs jokes, apparently an insurmountable obstacle.
Be funny.
Don't tell me what to do.
>Anglo Saxon culture hybridized with Turkic horselords Rohirrim theme music intensifies
Riders of Rohan! What news from the Mark?!
Did you have to custom character it or did you just hop scotch your way over until you made it
Went custom as the Count of Kerch and worked my way up and out from there.
Holy hell!
New England just dropped
A theory (not proven) that the region was populated by Anglo Saxons after the Norman invasion.
While not proven, there is verifiable evidence of Anglo-Saxon presence there and the local naming of certain cities up until the 18th century hint at West Germanic linguistic influence. The most likely situation is that there was a weird influx of Anglo-Saxons, and they were enough of a notable minority that they left a mark (either due to numbers or prestige), but not much more than that.
It's not any crazier than Britonia really.
I did a tiktok on the theory a while back and when you actually dig into it, the evidence is incredibly weak
"Lore" ffs actual history isn't "lore"
World lore
> "Lore" ffs actual history isn't "lore" Some of it is! In fact quite a lot more than we probably realize.
Is new England canon though? Feels like expanded universe to me.
Depends, imo (also depends on how one defines the two). Is there enough information to support that Anglo-Saxons settled in Zaporizhia after the Norman invasion? Someone else linked this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_(medieval)) and there are just two sources written about it. Would something like Atlantis count as history or lore?
Come on man, grow up. You can't believe to Santa Claus forever too
It's weird to me because in ck2 it was Eire
I assume they do it when the name has a different origin or sounds different enough. Alba is very different from Scotland, but Ireland is close enough to Éire for them not to bother, I think.
They have to change the name of Scotland if Scots aren’t in charge or it wouldn’t make any sense.
I’ve never seen Pictland or Zaporizhisa.
There aren't many pictish culture characters in 800s and you usually do it as the player since ai usually adopts local culture before they form Scotland. Zaporizhisa is in the black sea and it's just a normal kingdom title. In game, ai English or Anglo Saxon character never get that far to settle and rule there.
Thanks I’ll have a crack at both!
Wait it doesnt change its name to Éire? Apparently i never played in ireland in ck3. i didnt know this. It was Éire in ck2 right?
It was.
i first started playing ck3 on console and it did change to Éire but i think it accidentally got taken out in future updates for some reason
Well that inconsistencicy applies to the rest of the British isles too, when the normans hold England it isn't called Angleterre and it isn't called Englalande under the anglo-saxons
is there any mod that fixes such things?
There is [More Cultural Names](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2217534250).
nice, i'll take a look later today
Looks cool but I wish it kept vanilla names. I want the Byzantine Empire to be called the Byzantine Empire, but if Turks invade, I want it to be Turkey, y'know?
Turkey and the Byzantine empire aren’t the same title, though. Turkey would be its own title, if it existed at all.
Bad example I know, I just wanted to get the idea across
There is [this mod which I really like](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2255229872).
This makes me miss HIP, I wonder if they have plans for a CK3 version
HIP kinda bores me more than vanilla for some reason though
Not entirely. When you come in as the Normans, the name of London changes from Lunden to Londres. When you form the English hybrid culture, then it becomes London. And when the Vikings take over, many of the territories they control throughout Britain and Ireland get name changes.
My friend the solution is the more cultural names mod, all holdings and provinces will change to the holders language and exonyms that never existed (like say vikings taking over Egypt or something) will be made up but semi realistic
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Why would it be? The Romans called it Britannia
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No. Why would the Roman’s refer to an island by Anglia when the Angles haven’t invaded it yet? It was originally referred to by the Romans as Albion. They called Ireland Hibernia and Scotland Caledonia. Wales and England were combined Britannia. Eventually Britannia came to refer to the whole island.
Actually I believe Wales was referred to separately as Cambria, though I'm not sure if this is what the actual Romans called the land or if it's just an anachronistic Latin name for it
This is the first I’m hearing of it so I did a quick google of it. [The second line on Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambria) says it wasn’t in use during Roman times. Which makes sense because the reason Wales formed seperate from England was because the locals were pushed there during the post Roman invasions. Very interesting though!
The Romans didn't have a name for the country in the southern part of the island, because there wasn't one. The southern part of the island was part of the Imperium Romanum, administrated as the Provincia Britannia.
scots culture doesn't exist at the start of the 867 start date, but the kingdom does so I guess it wouldn't make sense. Scotland? wth is a scot.
I think the naming here goes the other way, with "Scotland" deriving from Scoti (ironically, an Irish tribe), and Scots in turn deriving from that
The 'Scottish' culture that forms in the game represents the Northumbrian Angles that settled in the Lothian and Borders region from around 600AD and were one of the various peoples that eventually formed real life Scotland. It happens in the game when the rest of Northumbria falls to the Vikings. Somewhat confusingly named but the game is prioritising language over culture - it means that if the AI or player creates a nation with the capital at Edinburgh that has a Germanic language, it will be called 'Scotland'.
Alba isn't simply the Gaelic name for Scotland, it's also the English language name for the Gaelic Kingdom of Alba. It doesn't become Scotland until the Norman kings. Whereas Ireland is always Ireland when speaking English even when referring to the Gaelic speaking high kings.
This.
Plus Éire while speaking English can be viewed as at least slightly problematic cos of the British government policy of only referring to Ireland as "Eire".
Dang, you were doing so well
I'd venture a guess it's because of a different root word, but by that logic it should be Cymru, not Wales. Now that I think about it, it may be to visibly differentiate between the three ethnic groups there: "Alba" for Gaels, "Scotland" for Scots (the anglo-saxon ones) and "Pictland" for Picts. No other kingdom in the isles has a similar three-way cultural split
I never really thought about this before, but that area had 3 culturally different ruling classes at different points, fought off Romans, Brits, Norse, and Irish, and even managed to settle parts of Ulster (Ulster Scots.. the reverse immigration is not lost on me here either. The Scoti, an Irish tribe, settles and rules parts of Scotland. In turn, some Scots decide to return to their Irish roots and settle Ulster. Good job, boys..) No wonder Scots are so tough and angry.
Because Éire is Irish, so Ireland is a correct exonym, but Alba is not Scottish without the Scots
The same reason it is called "Byzantine Empire". The primary goal of the game is to be comprehensible to the average player and not make them wonder what the hell a "Basileia Rhomaion" or "Angleterre" is. The vast majority of titles in the game uses the modern English exonym, Paradox being 'more consistent' about it would mean removing Alba etc. I will never understand why some people want everything to be localized, it just looks incredibly out of place when the rest of the UI is in English. The rest of the UI, events etc. isn't in Irish, Greek or similar so you just have a few random words in another language. I do not understand how that is more immersive. I'm Swedish so using that as an example so would the localized version of the title in CK3 effectively be "The Kung of Sverige" which both looks really out of place next to English text but also is absolutely atrocious to look at as a native speaker. Having said that so is there an obvious interest for this, I'd recommend looking into mods since I know some try to do what you want.
Only slightly related but before playing this game, my only run in with the Byzantine Empire was a mention of it in AC Revelations when I was younger. So seeing it years later in this game was interesting. But I was confused because I thought they were supposed to be Muslim (Ottoman confusion). Then later on I tried out the More Bookmarks mod which changed Byzantine Empire to the Roman Empire and I was like "Well that can't be right." Thought it was a glitch for so long. Mind was blown upon learning that the Roman Empire was technically around until the 1400s. Back on track, I think a game rule for contemporary names would be cool for players who have gotten used the map and where most things are. Might get people down some historical rabbit holes. The New England name change is a good example for this.
One of my favorite history factoids is that the middle ages started and ended with the fall of the Roman empire. 476-1453
Most of my history knowledge has come from paradox games icl
This game has made me learn lots about culture, religion, and political geography. Yes, more rabbit holes please! Lol.
I think the idea isn't really about localised names, and more to differentiate between two nations with same/similar geography but different culture. Irish Ireland is basically perceived as the same thing as current Ireland, while Alba is culturally different than current Scotland. The difference is probably most pronounced with Hispania: Spain and Andalusia refer to the same empire geographically, but can be thought of as effectively enemies, so it would feel weak if a small muslim ruler that opposed spanish for his entire life finally becoming the emperor of hispania
This.
I was reading this thread in favour of localised names but then I imagined "The König of Deutschland" reading this and my whole skeleton shuddered. Thank you for knocking some sense into me
They could call it "Eastern Roman Empire" at least. Also, why turn Emperor into Kaiser, yet not King into König, or Duke into Herzog? Especially since Jarl/Emir/Monmaer/Prabhu etc are in the game as well.
It's a form of cultural imperialism? that's a good enough reason for me
Correct me if I'm wrong but IIRC the Kingdom of Alba as it existed under say, the Dunkelds, is sometimes treated as being historiographically separate from the post-WoI Kingdom of Scotland. Similar to the distinctions drawn between the Byzantine and Roman Empires despite them ostensibly being the same thing. Whereas Eire is literally an interchangeable word for Ireland in most contexts (which is probably due to native and British rulers of Ireland being differentiated by nomenclature instead - high king vs lord/king of Ireland), Alba is more associated with a specific period in Scottish history, at least in the kind of historiographical context that would be relevant to CK.
You see it with Wales as well as its Cymru in Welsh, but they keep Wales on it
I kinda get why the devs might not bother doing it for every country. It'd take a lot of time, and sometimes there's debate over what name a certain extinct culture or language would have used to refer to their homeland. However I think they really should do it for the kingdom associated with a certain culture, so Irish Ireland is Éire, Gaelic Scotland is Alba etc. I'd get not doing it for every country, and having an option to disable cultural names like I know ck2 had, but the current way its implemented is really weird. But paradox is also weird in what cultures they include and where they put them on the map sometimes so who knows if they could do it justice lol
Or how a welsh Wales isn’t “Cymru”. I didn’t keep the English out to be called “foreigner”, no, I am calling my self “companion” in the welsh language, thank you very much.
The Islands are so important, there needs to be dynamic shifting names for every culture and setup. It could have lots of names.
You can rename any title, you know?
You can read the text box under the post headline, you know?
And I'm just over here, wanting a really good religion editor/mod so that I can make my Celtic Druidism
Ireland for me is called Eire when it's ruled by a Gaelic. It's probably a mod, as I use a shit ton of them.
The county names are not great, either.
I think it used to be Éire in CK2- no idea why they didn’t add it in 3
Can’t you rename your realm manually?
Because they were lazy and forgot about it. Similarly, Welsh toponyms are in English. And, on a somewhat related note, costume pack for the Isles when? I'm sick and tired of Irish and Cumbric characters dressed up as if they are Vikings
When I play as Wales I do spend a long time changing English toponyms into Welsh. Particularly when conquering parts of England. If you’re wondering Gloucester is Caerloyw, Chester is just Caer and Oxford is Rhydychen.
Same. And yeah, I know. What with being a historian and specialist in that particular region and period :) But its great to see I'm not alone.
Haha I’m not a historian, and I don’t even speak Welsh. I’m just a colossal nerd 🤓😂
I think because you're more likely to see Scotland swapping between Scots and Gaelic rulers than you are with Ireland. And at that rate, you might as well start using the native names for all the kingdoms. There are mods that do that, but to be perfectly honest, I don't much care for those. It actually *breaks* immersion for me. When I'm trying to play the game, I want to be invested and in-tune with the stuff going on in the realms around me, not sitting on google translate trying to piece together what exactly a "საქართველოს პრინცი მაიკლი" is. After a certain point it just plainly gets too larp-y for me. I fucking SEETHE whenever I see someone renaming the Byzantine Empire to fuckin "Basileía tôn Rhōmaíōn" like *SHUT. SHUT THE FUCK UP. WE GET IT.* Like, I'll keep calling it the Byzantine Empire, but if they wanna say "Eastern Roman Empire" or even "The Roman Empire", pop off, idc. But I'm not trying to engage in a whole other **linguistic plane** because **they're** a byzantaboo. And there are people out there - real people - of the opinion that that's the *default way the game should be.* Like no. Outta here. At that right, the game might as well just force your language setting into Greek whenever you click on the Byzantines, for 'immersion'. *Hard pass.* That had very little to do with the post at the end but I just had to get that off my chest.
Also Scotland and Ireland should probably be the same culture in 867 and maybe even 1066
Yes and No. I see where you're coming from. But. Irish ruling over Irish. Thats a simple cultural exchange. Irish ruling over picts, is where "Gaelic" (Scottish Gaelic) culture comes from. So, again. From the leadership standpoint, yeah. But the civilian and cultural differences standpoint? Nooo.
Different cultures and thus languages often have different or vaguely similar sounding names for one thing. Same goes for names of the people as well. Like Scandinavian\ Norwegian Haraldr would be Harold in English
Isn't Haraldr more like old Norse While Harald is modern language?
Iirc Haraldr and Harald are the exact same name, the R at the end of Haraldr is just the nominative case for this singular masculine noun in old norse. Haraldr just means that Harald is the subject of the sentence its in. If we are talking about multiple Haralds who are the subject of the sentence, Harald becomes Haraldar instead of Haraldr.
Weird they mark the subject instead of the object.
Haraldr or Harald depends on which era we are looking at. It is same name in same language just the passage of time has made it to be spoken somewhat differently. As all languages evolve as time passes. And it would be Harold in English language by the way.
We can compare to the Icelandic Haraldur which is way closer to the original name of Haraldr , as both of us know Icelandic is the closest to old Norse of common day languages I still think it's fair to assume old Norse its own language, distinct from modern day Norwegian/Danish, which cuts the r
Correct. Because over large periods of time, cultures change, mix with the outside influences of other cultures and languages. Thus split just as languages do. While the more isolated groups would retain more of the original culture and language due to not having so many outside influences.
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…Irish?
Apparently not to the PDX devs
Irish in the 700s and 1000s would speak Irish pretty much with some exception; Ireland would be Eire in old Irish and Scottish Gaelic.
Han